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mcj
01-28-2004, 04:48 PM
I do not see a difference . If our government and businesses condones in principle the speaking and writing of any other language other than English, than the government and those businesses supports segregation.
Webster dictionary defines segregate as follows: v. separate or isolate from others.
Segregation is defined as follows: n. act of separating people based on the color of thr skin.

How can the act of publishing or broadcasting by government or businesses in any other language other than English not be tantamount to segregation?
That doesn't include some ethnic newspapers or small radio or tv media outlets. That is a normal process. But large scale operations of using other languages are promoting segregation and should not be allowed.
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NYIndependence
01-28-2004, 05:36 PM
If the government decrees that the only people permitted to use a certain facility must have a particular skin color, that's segregation. On the other hand, businesses have the right to appeal to the most consumers possible and provide bilingual services to customers. That's not segregation, that's smart business. The reason the government can communicate in multiple languages is because English is not our official language. I support making English the official language, but realistically, even if that did happen, I would expect to see government offices, pamphlets, messages, etc. communicating in Spanish just because it isn't economically feasible to suddenly teach English to the Spanish population.
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seeker of truth
01-28-2004, 07:49 PM
If they don't allow others to speak a different language do they violate s person's freedom of speech. If your analogy applies then mine must.
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mcj
01-28-2004, 08:03 PM
Freedom to speak a second or third or how many ever languages you want is great. But the country can not have certain ethnic groups or nationalities that immigrate here to maintain and use a language that will be promoted and used by business or government other than our native tongue of English. To do so will only set the country back and divide us along how we speak. Thats crazy. We have a tough enough time trying to unite us now people what to divide us by language.
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NYIndependence
01-28-2004, 08:11 PM
Again, English should be the official language of the United States. However, if you are conservative, then you will agree that it is not the government's job to step in and tell a business what language it can or cannot do business in.

That bng said, English is the chosen language of international business. Have you see forgn currency? Ever wonder why you can read it?
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AA
02-07-2004, 06:37 AM
I know some of you will think who cares. But do they really have a motive to try and get Spanish on an equal footing with English? Doesn't this help the country of Spain to increase thr influence over the North American continent? Just a thought.

ChrisF202
02-07-2004, 10:36 AM
We were born from an English speaking nation, so therefore we speak English, end of discussion
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shortwave
02-07-2004, 11:01 AM
In a narrow legalistic way, Independence could be right. However, a true conservative would never support an immigration policy that will result in the destruction of Euro American culture and language. The neocons would.
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slaq567
02-07-2004, 11:07 AM
How is making English the official language not economically feasible? Its quite the opposite actually. ESL classes can be provided, with the cost of the class bng paid for by the attendee. So no cost would come out of our pockets when making English the official language. If we didnt, which is the case now, we must pay for translators, interpreters, bilingual voting ballots, drivers license exams, school programs, etc. This costs way more. Look at Nassau County, where we have the CASA department (Coordinating Agency for Spanish-Americans). This is a total waste of taxpayer money.

English should be the official language of our country. If private corporations or businesses provide languages other than English, that is thr choice. But our government should only conduct itself in English.
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shortwave
02-07-2004, 11:34 AM
if you want America to remain an English speaking nation then you must work to bring hispanic immgration down to 0. You are just wasting your time engaging in a narrow legal debate. It is ultimately all about who has power. Demographics will determine the destiny of this nation. Hispanics understand this. So does the Treasonous Peter King and Steve Israel(did anyone get a quick glimpse of these treasonous bastard on Lou Dobbs last night?).
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NYIndependence
02-07-2004, 12:54 PM
Quote:ESL classes can be provided, with the cost of the class bng paid for by the attendee.
I've proven in other threads that the demand outwghs the supply. Ideally, you're right, but ESL teachers are tough to come by.
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AA
02-07-2004, 01:06 PM
Local social programs are geared for the Hispanic community which includes illegals. Many of Israel's supporters favor more building of apartments and housing but they need the population to keep increasing.
Could there be a connection for more development and more Hispanics?

shortwave
02-07-2004, 01:17 PM
Of course there is a connection. I'll start a sepearate thread about Steve Israel. Get last Saturday's Newsday and read the letters to the editor. There is a very interesting letter to the editor about Steve Israels betrayal of native born white engineers from a native born white engineer who lives in Nassau County.
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close the border
02-09-2004, 02:19 PM
Yet no Democrat proposes closing the border to protect American workers. Why? If Bush wants the Mexicans here in mega proportions you would think in our type of political process Democrats would be opposed to such large infuxes of people. Thr not. I'm afraid shortwave and other's are correct when they say some actions are treasonous by our government officials.

Siliclast
02-09-2004, 03:31 PM
Well, Dennis Kucinich would have repealed NAFTA, which would cut down on the loss of American jobs greatly.
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shortwave
02-09-2004, 05:24 PM
Silicast, I think Kucunich is sincere on the nafta issue. But he does support Bush's treasonous amensty proposal. Actually, He said it didn't go far enough. Kunich along with the other democratic contenders for the presidency are hell on obliterating the Mexican US border. If they were ever successfull in doing this, millions of Americans would arm themselves and be more than willing to take on both Mexico and federal goverment. It would provoke a very serious crisis.
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