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Unregisteredli
07-28-2008, 01:49 PM
With all of the holier than thou nonsense that I read here about how terrific you all are, how important it is to have a VOLUNTEER service -I have a question - are all of you drum beaters the biggest suckers? How much do you pay per week for fuel - go to work, pick up the kids, go to the store, etc...

Now explain to me why some Huntington Chief was in New Castle, Delaware, prominently parked at a athletic complex for the 2008 Galaxy Lacrosse tournament, that was held from Saturday July 26, to the 27th. Odds are he arrived Friday - Now I can only imaginge how he would justify this... Was he on a stand-by in Delaware? Was he training the people from the event First Aid or Rescue methods?

I think not.

Was there no one 200 miles away in Huntington that might have put this
gas guzzling SUV for the three days it was down south watching Lacrosse Games, to better use serving the community that paid for it, its maintenence, its fuel and all of that shiny rarely or never used equipment?

Back to you heroes - how much fuel do you burn for your community? This Chief burned Jack S*** for his... I burned two tanks to get to the games...

The arrogance of this probably otherwise good person doing good things with his family is a shame, and it shows the deep rooted concept of the twisted sense of entitlement that has been implanted in most of your brains...

canada
07-28-2008, 01:57 PM
well said

Unregisteredchiefofficer
07-28-2008, 02:16 PM
With all of the holier than thou nonsense that I read here about how terrific you all are, how important it is to have a VOLUNTEER service -I have a question - are all of you drum beaters the biggest suckers? How much do you pay per week for fuel - go to work, pick up the kids, go to the store, etc...

Now explain to me why some Huntington Chief was in New Castle, Delaware, prominently parked at a athletic complex for the 2008 Galaxy Lacrosse tournament, that was held from Saturday July 26, to the 27th. Odds are he arrived Friday - Now I can only imaginge how he would justify this... Was he on a stand-by in Delaware? Was he training the people from the event First Aid or Rescue methods?

I think not.

Was there no one 200 miles away in Huntington that might have put this
gas guzzling SUV for the three days it was down south watching Lacrosse Games, to better use serving the community that paid for it, its maintenence, its fuel and all of that shiny rarely or never used equipment?

Back to you heroes - how much fuel do you burn for your community? This Chief burned Jack S*** for his... I burned two tanks to get to the games...

The arrogance of this probably otherwise good person doing good things with his family is a shame, and it shows the deep rooted concept of the twisted sense of entitlement that has been implanted in most of your brains...

I will agree it appears improper; however most Chief's do not continue to own a personal vehicle during their term as Chief.

It would have been better to use the wife's vehicle for this if possible.

Did it ever occur to you that he may have permission to use the vehicle for this but that the cost of fuel for this trip was paid by him?

There is no deep rooted sense of entitlement, it is not practical to have another vehicle sitting at home. More often then not 90% of the driving is in his home area, and he is a Chief 24/7. Another car just sitting in the driveway not being used will inevitably have mechanical problems occur from lack of use.

I always use the wife's car for personal trips when possible. However, sometimes it is not possible; if we are not travelling together I cannot leave he with no means of transportation, and she is forbidden by Department regulations from driving the department's vehicle.

Most departments would require the Chief to pay for fuel used for a trip that was not official business.

Unregistered631
07-28-2008, 05:11 PM
No - I would say that he was down in Baltimore for the convention - then went to the Lacrosse games since he was close by !! HA-HA-HA !!!

Get A Life !!!!!

Since you have so much free time to post on here - do something constructive and join your local dept. - or is that below you ????

Unregisteredmaybe???
07-28-2008, 05:17 PM
Maybe the chief was ALSO going to the Baltimore Fire Expo. He has to pass New Castle, Delaware en route to Baltimore. Maybe he was killing 2 birds with 1 stone. Chiefs do sacrifice ALOT of time away from their families in the course of their firematic duties. Maybe he split his time between the expo and the tournament so he can see his kid play and be with his family. Maybe you should get all the facts stupid before posting!

Unregisteredli
07-28-2008, 05:21 PM
I hear you regarding his potential permission, but permission from a District that is out of touch with the pulse of a frustrated tax base doesnt make it right. I know that for years in my Department these guys took Chiefs Vehicles anywhere they wanted as long as they wanted. The Captain that stood in their place as a Temporary Chief would use the pickup or spare car.

For those on the outside - Bottom line is that the Chief's Car is supposed to serve as not only a command vehicle, but also as a size up and even as a potential 1st responder/rescue vehicle (in the absence of other apparatus). No one would agree that taking an engine out for your personal business should be tolerated, then in the same vein, the Chiefs Car should be for the exclusive use of the Chief Line Officers in the line of duty, within or on the behalf their respective district. If the Chief is in District and available for service then fine. BUT the personal use has got to be kept under control. If he goes to work daily and cannot leave, I think the time has come for that practice to end. If he is on vacation for more than 24 hours, intends to consume intoxicants and not be fit for duty, or any other practice that takes him out of the command structure for an extended period of time then the car needs to be temporarily re-assigned or parked.


As far as this gentleman putting his own cash into it for fuel, I'll say this. The maintenance, oil changes, tires and other wear and tear are the taxpayers.
God forbid he gets into any accident, and property damage, physical injury or both occur - The District, and the taxpayer are on the hook for this little perk.

As far as personal need goes and leaving the wife with no car - sorry sir - get two cars like the rest of us and have the wife drive each car bi-weekly. Like many - including the rank and file that fill those trucks up with people who enter fire buildings, I have two car payments. If the rigors of office are too much for this gent then he should not have become Chief.

I never argued that the Chiefs car should remain idle in a driveway. Give it to the guy filling his shoes while he is away, or secure it on District Property.

Chief - your response was intelligent and honest and I have no fight with you - I know all about what is, what probably is and potentially is. I'm certain that this car was where it was with the full and complete knowledge of the District. You, the members of the DEPARTMENT as the visible part of the Ivory Tower that is your respective district need to be more 21st Century about what we expect of you. The days of Inspection Dinners and Strippers, along with Post Tournament Free-for-Alls are over.

If the Fire Service wants to continue being as autonomous as it is in the current Volunteer Status, then these guys all have to start acting more like professionals, on and off the fireground, acutely aware of the publics perception of them. Professional behavior has to occur both on and definitely off the scene as long as you still represent your respective Department in some visible way. Long gone are the concepts that just Volunteering is enough. As a Chief, you know this. If you or anyone who reads this are also paid members of a uniformed or other emergency service, you know this fact all too well.

As far as a sense of entitlement, I would respectfully direct your attention to the myriad of posts that take strident exception to any level of criticism of the Current Status of Fire Service on Long Island.

Be Safe.

Unregisteredli
07-28-2008, 05:39 PM
Goody for him that he does what the majority of the population does - work hard and spend time with his family when he can.

And if what you say is true, that this Gent was at the Expo - why did he need to take the Department Vehicle there? What was his directed agenda to accomplish at this Expo?

What part of the Huntington public was put at risk because this piece of Fire Equipment was missing for 6 days?

So did he take his wife and kids to the Expo? That must have been fun.
Who paid for that? Did he pay for their rooms? Their meals? Why is this even a part of the issue?

You just dont get it. I was there with my family. I work 60 hours a week helping people. Guess what? No One Cares. No one gave me a free car, or free trips or any of that crap. If you arent a Chief, or drive a District vehicle all day, then you should see it the same way as I do.

No, none of us have lives. This is all we have time for. It will never stop because we as the public deserve the best you can provide.
This is not an investment of diminishing returns. If you cant handle it, cant handle accountability, cant handle transparency, cant handle criticism, then your time has come to leave. This is a much different emergency service world than the one I joined 21 years ago, and yet the resistance to change is incredible. Tough you-know-what.

We are not going anywhere.

Look brother, Its not like you are going to up and quit. Your ego and your need to have self value is too strong. You are going to continue to show up, and then break your arm patting yourself on the back.

So, whatever.
I have been there, felt the heat and stopped the bleeding. Now I've moved on, and I see it from a different perspective.

All we want is to hold you accountable for the great job you claim to do and to uphold the finest traditions in public servce.

Thank you for proving my sense of entitlement point.

Unregisteredjustanindian
07-28-2008, 05:58 PM
I have been in the volly system since 1993. Have been a proud member of FDNY since 2003. And I am thankful to the volly system because without it I would never be where I am today. That being said WE are our own worst enemies. There is no way a chief officer should have his car that far out of his response area. Who was taking care of his duties while he was away and why would they not need a chiefs vehicle to do that. Going out to dinner a few towns away is one thing. Weekend lacrosse is another.
I agree spend time with your family that is the most important but get rid of that car. Leave it at the firehouse..Sorry chief I don't agree. The volunteers are getting hammered with fuel costs. Lead from the front on this...

Unregistered631
07-28-2008, 08:49 PM
Stop being jealous and get a life !!!!!
Be dedicated enough to become chief and then lets see what you do with the car !!

I didn't think soooo !!!!!!

BuffyNerds
07-29-2008, 02:02 AM
Stop being jealous and get a life !!!!!
Be dedicated enough to become chief and then lets see what you do with the car !!

I didn't think soooo !!!!!!

Why is the jolly volly's response always a demand for other people to join their buffy antiquated volunteer system? Do you really think normal people want to spend their Sunday mornings cutting up cars in parking lots and calling it training? Do you really think functional members of society want to respond to a nonsense fire alarm with 5 trucks and then go back to the firehouse and tell war stories that never really happened? Do you really think regular folks want to respond to a minor car accident with 20FF's and mess up traffic for miles? Do you really think normal people want to read FireNews and jerk off to stories about another house that burnt to the ground because the buffy losers weren't there in time? I'm still waiting to pick up that paper and see the headline "Volunteers save house from burning." Most people realize that a large majority of vollies are social misfits who can't get by in life without spending hour upon hour at a firehouse with a bunch of other losers. Try spending some time at home with your families and maybe others won't judge you as the dysfunctional nerds you really are.

Unregisteredhaha no way
07-29-2008, 02:03 PM
HAHA! Yeah, only that's really not the case =) I am career and volunteer and it's OK if you don't understand what goes on, looking in from the outside. We get it and don't expect civilians to fully understand. There's a reason for everything that goes on at a scene. Hopefully you will "get it" should you ever need help one day.

joski
07-29-2008, 04:33 PM
now lets be truthful how many times have you responded to a 20 minute mva had half a dozen beer and gotten home 3 hrs later its a social club

Unregisteredwatcher
07-29-2008, 05:35 PM
now lets be truthful how many times have you responded to a 20 minute mva had half a dozen beer and gotten home 3 hrs later its a social club

Weighing in on yet another thread is the fool Joski.

What a loser

joski
07-29-2008, 08:12 PM
asshole your mothers a troll

Unregisterednay
07-29-2008, 09:46 PM
asshole your mothers a troll

Thought you were an ex Chief? Never answered did you? Got all the answers and stir it up just when the hits go down. Work for the Smitz Board do we?

Unregisteredwatcher
07-30-2008, 12:09 PM
asshole your mothers a troll

Wow you really hurt me with that one you loser.

You are this site's "super troll" spewing inflamatory remarks on everyones page

Coram, Lindenhurst, West Babylon, Babylon Central fire Alarm, Huntington just to name a few.

Truth hurts doesn't it you loser troll, so you come back with the school yard "your mama".

You really got me there... lol

Grow up, what are you 15? What an azzhole.

The hits keep coming, many people on this site are calling you out loser, you are a troll

Unregistered1
08-03-2008, 12:27 PM
None of this changes a thing...

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!
08-03-2008, 01:08 PM
None of this changes a thing...

So, the operator most likely had the autorization of the Board to use the vehicle.

Go by federal mileage standards, I'm sure if it means that much to you, the operator will pay you the $125.00 (maybe based on mapquest), in cash, divided between ALL THE TAXED RESIDENTS OF YOUR DISTRICT. Give me an address, I will personally mail you a money order on his or her's behalf for your share of $.0125.. Including stamp and fee for the money order, not to mention your carbon footprint for even bringing this crap up. I'd say WE ARE ALL INTO IT FOR ABOUT $21.50 just for your complaint, multiply it out, good job, real cost of your complaint. About $215,000.00. Less legal and employee fees? Think it does not happen, you are wrong.. Happy now, got your satisfaction when we tax you for the litigation next year? It is real, run for office and please realize, it may have not been a Chief. My district recycles cars and lately have been taking the "Chief" lettering off those ten year old cars and allowing the members to use them for approved training and out of state trips. The department lettering stays as a condition of the registration, so got enough info, or maybe you should drive on down and talk to the Board members...

Unregistered???
08-04-2008, 11:50 AM
What?

Unregisteredli
08-04-2008, 08:59 PM
First of all Dick, you are clearly part of the problem. In other words, the practice of using department assets that otherwise might be used to save lives and property in its respective district is a government sponsored limo is just OK.

Tell you what Richard, when the respective Chiefs Car with the Scott Pak, AED, First Aid, Turnout Gear, Irons, etc. that might have been able to be used to preserve life or property is elsewhere, guess who I hope needs it. You can then apply that .0125 to make yourself feel better. Be sure to sue for inadequate care at at cost of $215,000.00 to the taxpayer.

It doesnt matter what it costs. You are wrong about the lettering issue - in fact and in practice. If you had bothered to read what I wrote before opening up your Living in Mommy's Basement checking fire news for your picture yap, you would see that I am fully aware of the Volunteer Fire Service, having been a member, and I acknowleged that this person probably had permission. It doesnt make it right. The car was clearly brand new, clearly marked with Chiefs Insignia, plates, etc. on Multiple Points on the car. Bottom line is that it is a practice that is wrong, should stop, and you and your attitude are exactly why vollies have a limited shelf life in the world of emergency service.

Frankly, you dont "deserve" s**t. You signed up to "HELP PEOPLE", right? Take that warm and fuzzy feeling you claim to only want and go away.

You "deserve" whatever you need to do your job. Entertainment and perks are not part of the deal.

I'll say thanks for showing up with the ambulance after the 3rd alarm, and you can tell war stories of the 20 windows you bashed out at the 1 bedroom fire or the foundation you saved at one of the three bars in your goverment building.

Yet another example of a vollie who thinks that signing in every time after a signal 12, is enough to qualify as a professional emergency service provider. Try doing this tour after tour with an actual boss and actual accountability, where lives and paychecks hang in the balance.

Sorry for all of the decent folks out there who actually work hard for us, for nothing, and are marginalized by the committemen and racing teams, but this guy is a meatstick.

LIKE I SAID IN THE POST
08-04-2008, 09:10 PM
First of all Dick, you are clearly part of the problem. In other words, the practice of using department assets that otherwise might be used to save lives and property in its respective district is a government sponsored limo is just OK.

Tell you what Richard, when the respective Chiefs Car with the Scott Pak, AED, First Aid, Turnout Gear, Irons, etc. that might have been able to be used to preserve life or property is elsewhere, guess who I hope needs it. You can then apply that .0125 to make yourself feel better. Be sure to sue for inadequate care at at cost of $215,000.00 to the taxpayer.

It doesnt matter what it costs. You are wrong about the lettering issue - in fact and in practice. If you had bothered to read what I wrote before opening up your Living in Mommy's Basement checking fire news for your picture yap, you would see that I am fully aware of the Volunteer Fire Service, having been a member, and I acknowleged that this person probably had permission. It doesnt make it right. The car was clearly brand new, clearly marked with Chiefs Insignia, plates, etc. on Multiple Points on the car. Bottom line is that it is a practice that is wrong, should stop, and you and your attitude are exactly why vollies have a limited shelf life in the world of emergency service.

Frankly, you dont "deserve" s**t. You signed up to "HELP PEOPLE", right? Take that warm and fuzzy feeling you claim to only want and go away.

You "deserve" whatever you need to do your job. Entertainment and perks are not part of the deal.

I'll say thanks for showing up with the ambulance after the 3rd alarm, and you can tell war stories of the 20 windows you bashed out at the 1 bedroom fire or the foundation you saved at one of the three bars in your goverment building.

Yet another example of a vollie who thinks that signing in every time after a signal 12, is enough to qualify as a professional emergency service provider. Try doing this tour after tour with an actual boss and actual accountability, where lives and paychecks hang in the balance.

Sorry for all of the decent folks out there who actually work hard for us, for nothing, and are marginalized by the committemen and racing teams, but this guy is a meatstick.

And talk to the Board members, this rant site will not get you anywhere..
Oh and I'm not Richard, sorry.

Unregisteredpaidvolly
08-04-2008, 11:53 PM
i am a volly chief, and also work for fdny. i have been a volley for over 27 years and grew up in the firehouse when my dad was chief. i have seen many changes over the years, some good, and some not so good.
when my dad first started as a chief officer back in the 70's there was one chiefs car and it was parked in quarters.
one of the chiefs would come to the station and pick it up when there was a run. now almost all chiefs in every volley house have some sort of vehicle assigned to him/her, this in my experience has saved countless lives (see commack chief saves woman from burning house newsday.com). it also cuts down (not totally) on the needless response of numerous pieces of equipment when a chief gets on scene first and declares the emergency under control. as for the personel use of the vehicles i can only speak for myself and speculate for those who i know, but the ABUSE that is spoken of is not as wide spread as it appears. just because you see one shiney red or white car not doing the right thing does not mean everyone does it. my chiefs vehicle is a 2003 chevy tahoe with 39,980 miles(less than 10,000 miles per year). not bad for a 5-6 year old vehicle used for approx. 300-400 runs peryear. you most likely put more mileage on your own vehicle.
should there be tighter control of excessive abuse, absolutley.
should you and all the other negative ranters stop lumping every volley or volley house into one group, absolutly.
if you guys really want a paid fire department on long island, along with the high tax burden that goes along with it. do it the right way and contact your local politicians for help. just stop the witch hunt of all the hard working dedicated volunteers.

Schlonger
08-04-2008, 11:54 PM
First of all Dick, you are clearly part of the problem. In other words, the practice of using department assets that otherwise might be used to save lives and property in its respective district is a government sponsored limo is just OK.

Tell you what Richard, when the respective Chiefs Car with the Scott Pak, AED, First Aid, Turnout Gear, Irons, etc. that might have been able to be used to preserve life or property is elsewhere, guess who I hope needs it. You can then apply that .0125 to make yourself feel better. Be sure to sue for inadequate care at at cost of $215,000.00 to the taxpayer.

It doesnt matter what it costs. You are wrong about the lettering issue - in fact and in practice. If you had bothered to read what I wrote before opening up your Living in Mommy's Basement checking fire news for your picture yap, you would see that I am fully aware of the Volunteer Fire Service, having been a member, and I acknowleged that this person probably had permission. It doesnt make it right. The car was clearly brand new, clearly marked with Chiefs Insignia, plates, etc. on Multiple Points on the car. Bottom line is that it is a practice that is wrong, should stop, and you and your attitude are exactly why vollies have a limited shelf life in the world of emergency service.

Frankly, you dont "deserve" s**t. You signed up to "HELP PEOPLE", right? Take that warm and fuzzy feeling you claim to only want and go away.

You "deserve" whatever you need to do your job. Entertainment and perks are not part of the deal.

I'll say thanks for showing up with the ambulance after the 3rd alarm, and you can tell war stories of the 20 windows you bashed out at the 1 bedroom fire or the foundation you saved at one of the three bars in your goverment building.

Yet another example of a vollie who thinks that signing in every time after a signal 12, is enough to qualify as a professional emergency service provider. Try doing this tour after tour with an actual boss and actual accountability, where lives and paychecks hang in the balance.

Sorry for all of the decent folks out there who actually work hard for us, for nothing, and are marginalized by the committemen and racing teams, but this guy is a meatstick.


I LIKE IT!!!!!

UnregisteredCAR
08-14-2008, 06:30 PM
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Unregisteredxxx
08-15-2008, 08:16 PM
????

Unregistereddick
08-27-2008, 05:15 PM
Why is the jolly volly's response always a demand for other people to join their buffy antiquated volunteer system? Do you really think normal people want to spend their Sunday mornings cutting up cars in parking lots and calling it training? Do you really think functional members of society want to respond to a nonsense fire alarm with 5 trucks and then go back to the firehouse and tell war stories that never really happened? Do you really think regular folks want to respond to a minor car accident with 20FF's and mess up traffic for miles? Do you really think normal people want to read FireNews and jerk off to stories about another house that burnt to the ground because the buffy losers weren't there in time? I'm still waiting to pick up that paper and see the headline "Volunteers save house from burning." Most people realize that a large majority of vollies are social misfits who can't get by in life without spending hour upon hour at a firehouse with a bunch of other losers. Try spending some time at home with your families and maybe others won't judge you as the dysfunctional nerds you really are.
WELL SAID

Unregistered2008
08-28-2008, 07:32 PM
Why is the jolly volly's response always a demand for other people to join their buffy antiquated volunteer system? Do you really think normal people want to spend their Sunday mornings cutting up cars in parking lots and calling it training? Do you really think functional members of society want to respond to a nonsense fire alarm with 5 trucks and then go back to the firehouse and tell war stories that never really happened? Do you really think regular folks want to respond to a minor car accident with 20FF's and mess up traffic for miles? Do you really think normal people want to read FireNews and jerk off to stories about another house that burnt to the ground because the buffy losers weren't there in time? I'm still waiting to pick up that paper and see the headline "Volunteers save house from burning." Most people realize that a large majority of vollies are social misfits who can't get by in life without spending hour upon hour at a firehouse with a bunch of other losers. Try spending some time at home with your families and maybe others won't judge you as the dysfunctional nerds you really are.

The MAJORITY of vollies are social misfits? I dunno. I have a pretty good real job paying deep into the six figure range. I have a masters degree plus, and am involved in a lot of other community service programs. I have a great wife who comes from a family of volunteers and who is pretty understanding about the need for community service. I get plenty of family time, lots of family recreation, have a house here and a vacation house at the beach, and have a pretty cool life. I don't hang around the firehouse, but I do make my quota. and always have. And I'm not the exception - - -our department alarm stats run in the thousands annually and our members come from all walks of life and have various backgrounds, including teachers, nurses, engineers, physicians, attorneys, police officers and career firefighters. Like most departments, ours is filled with families who volunteer.

I don't volunteer to tie up traffic or fantasize over Fire News. I volunteer because Long Island is still a volunteer Fire Service and I'd like to help. Someday when the system no longer needs volunteers, I'll find some other good use for my skills.

Given your rant, I'm not sure who the dysfunctional nerd really is, but have fun at your keyboard badmouthing those who you wish would ever have reason to admire you. There is room for improvement in the volunteer fire service, just like I'm sure there is wherever you work (assuming you do and that you're not just ing from your bedroom in your parents' house).

I'm not sure how it is in your town, but there seems to be an awful lot of fire, rescue and emergency work going on every day on Long Island. The vast majority of that work is being done very professionally by volunteers.

If you don't want to (or can't) volunteer, don't. Just don't trash everyone who does or tar everyonne with the same pitiful and angry little brush.

BTW, it wasn't smart for a chief to take his car that far out of service. When I was a Chief and needed to take a trip like that, I just rented a car (including going to the Firehouse Expo). It does make more sense to keep the vehicle in service and have a Captain get some extra road experience.

dysfunctional nerd
08-29-2008, 02:53 PM
The MAJORITY of vollies are social misfits? I dunno. I have a pretty good real job paying deep into the six figure range. I have a masters degree plus, and am involved in a lot of other community service programs. I have a great wife who comes from a family of volunteers and who is pretty understanding about the need for community service. I get plenty of family time, lots of family recreation, have a house here and a vacation house at the beach, and have a pretty cool life. I don't hang around the firehouse, but I do make my quota. and always have. And I'm not the exception - - -our department alarm stats run in the thousands annually and our members come from all walks of life and have various backgrounds, including teachers, nurses, engineers, physicians, attorneys, police officers and career firefighters. Like most departments, ours is filled with families who volunteer.

I don't volunteer to tie up traffic or fantasize over Fire News. I volunteer because Long Island is still a volunteer Fire Service and I'd like to help. Someday when the system no longer needs volunteers, I'll find some other good use for my skills.

Given your rant, I'm not sure who the dysfunctional nerd really is, but have fun at your keyboard badmouthing those who you wish would ever have reason to admire you. There is room for improvement in the volunteer fire service, just like I'm sure there is wherever you work (assuming you do and that you're not just ing from your bedroom in your parents' house).

I'm not sure how it is in your town, but there seems to be an awful lot of fire, rescue and emergency work going on every day on Long Island. The vast majority of that work is being done very professionally by volunteers.

If you don't want to (or can't) volunteer, don't. Just don't trash everyone who does or tar everyonne with the same pitiful and angry little brush.

BTW, it wasn't smart for a chief to take his car that far out of service. When I was a Chief and needed to take a trip like that, I just rented a car (including going to the Firehouse Expo). It does make more sense to keep the vehicle in service and have a Captain get some extra road experience.

well said

i also have a masters and earn well into 6 figures. i volunteer to help out and maybe make a few good friends with common interests and intellect

complaint
08-29-2008, 06:32 PM
I saw the Huntington CHIEF's car pulling into the Huntington Fire House. How dare he/she use this vehicle for his personal use. He should reesign...

Unregistered complaint
08-30-2008, 06:24 PM
I saw the Huntington CHIEF's car pulling into the Huntington Fire House. How dare he/she use this vehicle for his personal use. He should reesign...

LOL...

better not se them driving home from a fire on their own time

Unregistered 6603
09-29-2008, 04:37 PM
The MAJORITY of vollies are social misfits? I dunno. I have a pretty good real job paying deep into the six figure range. I have a masters degree plus, and am involved in a lot of other community service programs. I have a great wife who comes from a family of volunteers and who is pretty understanding about the need for community service. I get plenty of family time, lots of family recreation, have a house here and a vacation house at the beach, and have a pretty cool life. I don't hang around the firehouse, but I do make my quota. and always have. And I'm not the exception - - -our department alarm stats run in the thousands annually and our members come from all walks of life and have various backgrounds, including teachers, nurses, engineers, physicians, attorneys, police officers and career firefighters. Like most departments, ours is filled with families who volunteer.

I don't volunteer to tie up traffic or fantasize over Fire News. I volunteer because Long Island is still a volunteer Fire Service and I'd like to help. Someday when the system no longer needs volunteers, I'll find some other good use for my skills.

Given your rant, I'm not sure who the dysfunctional nerd really is, but have fun at your keyboard badmouthing those who you wish would ever have reason to admire you. There is room for improvement in the volunteer fire service, just like I'm sure there is wherever you work (assuming you do and that you're not just ing from your bedroom in your parents' house).

I'm not sure how it is in your town, but there seems to be an awful lot of fire, rescue and emergency work going on every day on Long Island. The vast majority of that work is being done very professionally by volunteers.

If you don't want to (or can't) volunteer, don't. Just don't trash everyone who does or tar everyonne with the same pitiful and angry little brush.

BTW, it wasn't smart for a chief to take his car that far out of service. When I was a Chief and needed to take a trip like that, I just rented a car (including going to the Firehouse Expo). It does make more sense to keep the vehicle in service and have a Captain get some extra road experience

Reasons for posting
09-29-2008, 05:25 PM
Top ten reasons why folks post bad things about LI VFD's:

10) Current paid FF somewhere with a long commute to work from their LI home and tired of dealing with ghetto folks, hoping for a local job with much higher pay than they currently recieve.

9) Kid who isn't employed and still lives in a BR in Mom and Dad's basement taking every civil service test he can find because he doubts he can make a living in the private sector and hoping LI goes paid so he can be assured of the highest salary in the nation.

8) Same as above but 29 years old and desperate for same before he ages out. Usually the worse the tirade the more depsperate.

7) Similar to above just about anyone who isn't a homeowner, doesn't pay property taxes and basically has their head installed in their @$$ as it involves current LI taxes, the cost of paid services and percentages currently allocated to the volunteer fire service.

6) The wife of one of the above, who works for Newsday.
5) The husband of one of the above, who works for Newsday.
4) The brother of one of the above, who works for Newsday.
3) The sister of one of the above, who works for Newsday.
2) The parent of one of the above, who works for Newsday.

and the number 1 reason why

10) Someone who was either kicked out of a VFD or cannot volunteer due a lack of personal commitment, desire or ambition to help their community.

Unregisteredballsack
10-12-2008, 01:04 PM
get a f@$%en life lets see u spend hours each week risking ur life on every call, the ride to the scene is as just a dangerous as the emergency they are at