Fire Police?

[Tom1973]

Why do some Vollies put "POLICE" on their fire vehicles. You're not cops and you never will be. You are drunken loser vollies. Total wannabees! Grow up!

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troll

[Ed453]

They all want to be cops...so jealous

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WHO ARE THE NYS FIRE POLICE

A BRIEF HISTORY



The first mention of the "Fire Police" by the Firemen's Association of the State of New York was at their fourth annual convention held in Elmira in 1876. They were again mentioned as "Protective Police" at the 1877 convention with the suggestion that they, "should be composed of the most reliable people to be found". However, fire police in New York State, as they are known today, originated with a bill sponsored by Senator Arthur L. Swartz and a companion bill sponsored by Assemblyman Harold C. Ostertag at the request of FASNY. The measure was passed in both houses of the NYS Legislature on May 20,1939. On May 29th of the same year, then Governor Herbert H. Lehman, signed Chapter 583 of the Laws of 1939 legalizing the formation of fire police by state fire departments. Fire police can be called a 'step-child' of both the volunteer fire and police services. They are unique in that they are first trained firefighters, belonging to a fire department and responsible for all the requirements and duties of a volunteer member. However, when placed on duty by the chief, or activated for an emergency or other detail, they have certain police powers. These are granted under Section 209 (c) of the General Municipal Law. As New York State Peace Officers they are required to take an oath, a copy of which must be kept on file in the town clerk's office in the municipality in which they serve. As mandated by Executive Law, Section 845 (Chapter 482, Laws of 1979 and Chapter 843 Laws of 1980) they are also listed with the Central Registry of Police and Peace Officers at the New York State, Division of Criminal Justice Services-Office of Public Safety in Albany, NY. It is the duty of each fire chief to insure compliance and to update his fire police with DCJS as required. Those failing to do so may be held in contempt of court. Although most officers are well aware of their authority under Article 35, (Use of Force Justification under New York State Penal Law) in all but the most immediate serious situations, most units consider it prudent to relegate these problems to, and request assistance from, the attending police agency. The existence of and size of each fire police squad or company is up to each department and is governed by their needs, location and size. This can be as few as two members that respond to calls in their private autos to well over fifty officers equipped with a specially designed piece of apparatus or even a boat.


New York State is not unique in having Fire Police as part of their Fire Departments. Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia West Virginia, New Jersey, Deleware and Maine are among those states with similar laws providing for Fire Police officers. Even countries such as Japan, Australia and New Zealand utilize Fire Police in various capacities.

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WHO ARE THE NYS FIRE POLICE

A BRIEF HISTORY



The first mention of the "Fire Police" by the Firemen's Association of the State of New York was at their fourth annual convention held in Elmira in 1876. They were again mentioned as "Protective Police" at the 1877 convention with the suggestion that they, "should be composed of the most reliable people to be found". However, fire police in New York State, as they are known today, originated with a bill sponsored by Senator Arthur L. Swartz and a companion bill sponsored by Assemblyman Harold C. Ostertag at the request of FASNY. The measure was passed in both houses of the NYS Legislature on May 20,1939. On May 29th of the same year, then Governor Herbert H. Lehman, signed Chapter 583 of the Laws of 1939 legalizing the formation of fire police by state fire departments. Fire police can be called a 'step-child' of both the volunteer fire and police services. They are unique in that they are first trained firefighters, belonging to a fire department and responsible for all the requirements and duties of a volunteer member. However, when placed on duty by the chief, or activated for an emergency or other detail, they have certain police powers. These are granted under Section 209 (c) of the General Municipal Law. As New York State Peace Officers they are required to take an oath, a copy of which must be kept on file in the town clerk's office in the municipality in which they serve. As mandated by Executive Law, Section 845 (Chapter 482, Laws of 1979 and Chapter 843 Laws of 1980) they are also listed with the Central Registry of Police and Peace Officers at the New York State, Division of Criminal Justice Services-Office of Public Safety in Albany, NY. It is the duty of each fire chief to insure compliance and to update his fire police with DCJS as required. Those failing to do so may be held in contempt of court. Although most officers are well aware of their authority under Article 35, (Use of Force Justification under New York State Penal Law) in all but the most immediate serious situations, most units consider it prudent to relegate these problems to, and request assistance from, the attending police agency. The existence of and size of each fire police squad or company is up to each department and is governed by their needs, location and size. This can be as few as two members that respond to calls in their private autos to well over fifty officers equipped with a specially designed piece of apparatus or even a boat.


New York State is not unique in having Fire Police as part of their Fire Departments. Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia West Virginia, New Jersey, Deleware and Maine are among those states with similar laws providing for Fire Police officers. Even countries such as Japan, Australia and New Zealand utilize Fire Police in various capacities.

Outstanding reply!

[Unregistered456]

Yea what he said!!!! So shutta yo face!!!

[UnregisteredFP]

Go back to the Police pages you troll, why come over here and start your crap?

Is it because you are getting you azz kicked allover the Police forum by the cop haters.

Get a life loser, I get along with all the PD in my fire district.

I guess just like the scum in the fire service that post their shyt here, the PD must have their scum as well.

Go back to where you came from jerk off Tom1973

I'm real impressed with your posts......NOT

[Unregistered55]

Vollies should have the writing "We are wanna be cops" posted on their vehicles.

[hey coppa]

If we wanted to be cops, we would be sleeping or watching tv in the firehouse, while the sector car sits in the back of the lot, obscurred by the building to the public and watch tv.



secrets out.

[Unregistered55]

If we wanted to be cops, we would be sleeping or watching tv in the firehouse, while the sector car sits in the back of the lot, obscurred by the building to the public and watch tv.
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The cops have every right to eat, sleep, and call in their work at the firehouse. They take their meals and personals at the firehouse.

These are the same cops who show you and your family of perps courtesy when you drive 90 in a 30mph zone. Or when you have a road rage incident and turn on your gay flashers and tell them you are a cop....or perhaps when you are hammered from yet another nite at the firehouse drinking with the other vollie dorks and another one slams a chair over the head of the other.

Secrets out.

[UnregisteredFP]

This fight was picked by the troll TOM1973

By coming to the Fire department forum and starting an inflammatory thread about Fire Police.

The guy is a jerk for starting a bullshyt battle of the badges. He is just a loser with too much time on his hands.

So lighten up boys, yes PD take their meal and lavatory breaks in the fire house, and we welcome them in ours, we work very well with them in our area.

And yes, they typically show courtesy to members of the fire service, providing those members are respectful and courteous back.

As for road rage and flashing lights; there should be no courtesy for something as stupid as that, the Chief should be notified at a minimum.

Drinking and driving sould be Zero Tolerance, period.

So to the Boys in Blue; don't let the words of one or two childish vollies taint your perception of us all, and stay safe.

To my brother firemen, don't take the troll bait and start a stupid war with law enforcement, Stay low

Peace out!

[Ed4554]

Vollies are drunks!

[manythanks]

Vollies are drunks!

Has been duly noted and we will collectively research that and get back to you. Now please press one to return to the main menu as our system has changed, you wait time has been estimated to be 35 minutes since we have now moved our dispatch system to Bangladesh, for spanish press the number sign...

[UnregisteredFP]

Vollies are drunks!

Real mature Ed, Real mature. Grow up loser, get a life

[Ed4554]

Real mature Ed, Real mature. Grow up loser, get a life

More mature than the vollies who tap out fat chicks in the tax payer funded frat house/firehouse at 3am. Newsday needs to do an investigation.

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Whatsup?

[Ed4554]

Whatsup?

Drunk vollies?

[Unregistered12333122]

these guys think they are cops out here... hahaha go sit on your dm for an hour wannabe if you want to be a cop and not some overpaid babysitter then you should have took city pd

[what is the beef?]

these guys think they are cops out here... hahaha go sit on your dm for an hour wannabe if you want to be a cop and not some overpaid babysitter then you should have took city pd

All they are charged with is directing traffic and maintaining order among spectators in and around emergency scenes. Normally senior firefighters that would be at risk if they continued in a fire supression role, or community members that wanted to volunteer and help out but had no desire for a fire supression role. Absolutely nothing wrong with it, a huge resource for any incident commander and community during an emergency and releases highly trained POLICE OFFICERS, (note not peace officers like the fire police), to actually be available to patrol and address situations that they are chaged with and meant for.

The best a fire policeman could do is a citizens arrest for obstructing governmental administration and quite frankly most I know have absolutely no intention of ever playing that card. Where are you getting the "wanna be cop" out of their job?

[Ed4554]

these guys think they are cops out here... hahaha go sit on your dm for an hour wannabe if you want to be a cop and not some overpaid babysitter then you should have took city pd

Most Nassau and Suffolk cops are ex city cops you idiot! You're just jealous you couldn't pass the exam. Sour grapes!

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Enough

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