"THEY ONLY COME HERE TO WORK"

[Concerned Citizen]

• Denver police officer Robert Bryant was struck down in a hit-and-run as he was flagging down speeders near a school at around 3 in the afternoon January 22. There were numerous witnesses who said the driver gunned the engine of his Chevy S-10 pickup and purposely ran down Bryant, who was wearing a bright orange vest. The driver, a Mexican with no identification, was caught when he ran a red light a few blocks away and crashed into a car driven by an elderly man, who was also injured. Officer Bryant recved serious injuries including a femur fracture but is expected to recover. Those who saw the incident say it is a miracle that he wasn't killed The Mexican driver apparently was drunk or on drugs, according to investigators and was injured in the crash.

[shortwave]

They murdered 3 thousand people on 9/11. We could have a policy of 0 legal immigration and have no problem finding workers. It's been done before. Rich people oppose low legal immigration because low legal immigration would empower native born white workers. Once they know the boss man can't replace them with an immgrant from India, native born white workers will demand a high standard of living. By the way, today, 25 republican congressman sent jorge bush a letter today about jorge's treasonous amesty proposal. These 25 congressman are opposed to the amnesty.Fat Peter King's name was not among the 25 on the letter. Peter King has the worst voting record on immgration in the congress. Numbersusa.com has given him an F minus for four straight years. Peter King votes for open borders every chance he gets. Peter King is responsible for 9/11 as is Jorge Bush. If there had been a policy of 0 immgration from the muslim world, 9/11 never would have happened. How could it? There was a choice: pay native born white workers a high wage or import forgn works from the muslim world. Peter King chose the option of paying native born white workers a low wage. 9/11 happened a few years later. The only way that we can protect ourselves from another terrorist attack is to implement immediately a national origins policy that excludes muslim immgrants. If this policy ws implemented, the rich greedy class would be forced to pay native born white workers a high wage. Why do we need muslim immgrant doctors.? We are quite capable of trainning our own doctors. If we did this, there would be plenty of room in medical school for white kids and black kids. There would be no justification for affirmative action and no future 9/11's.
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[shortwave]

By the way, I was almost one of legal immigrant Colin Ferguson's victims
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[shortwave]

Fatso Peter King is gonna of have a lot of explaining to do one day. And that day may be sooner than you think. It will happen the day after AL Queda detonates one of those missing Russian mini nukes in the Lincoln tunnel. In addition to klilling thousands, the US economy will be brought to it's knees. Of course all you stupid white guys are to busy "hanging with Mike anf the mad dog".When it happens, you won't even know what hit you.
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[NYIndependence]

Quote:By the way, I was almost one of legal immigrant Colin Ferguson's victims
That's at l the second time you told us. The "almost" is an important aspect of that message. Admittedly, you were not one of his victims, yet you have warped this tragedy to a springboard for your political views. In the process you dishonor those who perished as well as hurt your own crusade more than any of your opponents could hope.
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[shortwave]

NY, you should watch Lou Dobbs every night. Also, read Michelle Malkin's book Invasion.
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[slaq567]

Any way we can get a group together in a couple of months and go door-to-door handing out literature to all residents of Peter King's district, outlining his disgraceful immigration record? I know for a fact, alot of it is not that people dont care or are too busy with other things, they just don't simply know what is going on. If this was brought to the attention of the residents of King's district, it is bound to get voters angry, especially after 9/11. If this sounds like a good idea, I am in! If I am not mistaken, he is up for election this November?
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[ChrisF202]

Nice idea Slaq, watch out for all the ice and snow though

[NYIndependence]

I'm going to throw out a wild guess here. Is shortwave from the school of thought that Mexicans are trying to invade California so that they can incorporate it back into Mexico?
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[Reality]

to incorporate California into Mexico, it's already been done. They don't call it "Mexifornia" for nothing.

[news to me]

I didnt realize Mexicans crashed the planes into the TWC

[Reality]

But...When Bush's new immigration policy is in full swing you will see our economy crash and burn with taxes at all levels of govt. taking a huge jump. The problem is, once it happens there is no going back; we're stuck with the problem forever. All because of politicians who don't give a damn about anything but thr own careers.

[In the Sewer]

We DON"T need them what about all of the people on WELFARE & Temporary Assistance?

January 27, 2004 -- WELFARE reform was one of the big successes of the Giuliani years. Unfortunately, the city's welfare rolls are no longer steadily falling. What's more, other forms of public assistance have been steadily rising.
From 1994 through 2001, New York's welfare caseload fell roughly 60 percent. But as the chart shows, once the five-year limit on welfare benefits kicked in at the end of 2001, tens of thousands of New York welfare recipients shifted virtually overnight from the federal Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) program to Safety Net Assistance (SNA) - a program with no time limit, financed solely by state and city taxpayers.

The city's SNA caseload is now larger than its number of TANF recipients. And by last fall, the combined TANF and SNA caseloads had begun rising (albt slightly) on a yearly basis for the first time since the early 1990s.

It's still too early to call the increase in the general welfare rolls a definite trend, but other forms of public assistance clearly are on the rise.

* The Medicaid caseload has ballooned 48 percent in the last three years. By late 2003, nearly 2.4 million New Yorkers (more than one in four city residents) were Medicaid recipients.

* The number of federal food-stamp recipients in the city has also grown by 120,000 people over the last two years, reaching its highest level since the end of 1999.

* The city's average homeless-shelter population surged to a record level of more than 38,000 people in 2003 - an incredible 81 percent jump from where it stood in the late 1990s (see Chart 4).



The 2001 recession and the World Trade Center attack obviously were factors here. But the trends also have a lot to do with deliberate policy choices in City Hall and Albany.

Consider welfare reform. Efforts to get more people off public assistance have recved zero help lately from Albany, where the Assembly has rejected Gov. Pataki's eminently reasonable proposal to enact tougher sanctions on welfare mothers who refuse to seek work or cooperate with child-support requirements. Meanwhile, the Bloomberg administration has allowed the work-exemption rate for welfare recipients to rise steadily, and it is fighting federal proposals to toughen work-participation requirements.

Medicaid's growth is largely the outcome of three policy decisions: Giuliani's HealthStat initiative, specifically designed to enroll the uninsured into Medicaid and other government programs; Pataki's Family Health Plus program, which extended a form of Medicaid to families with incomes up to 150 percent of the poverty level; and the post-9/11 "disaster relief Medicaid" outreach effort, which amounted to an express lane for new enrollees.

The upsurge in food-stamp recipients also results from a broader policy shift. Giuliani treated food stamps as a dependency snare to be discouraged, even though, as a federal program, it didn't directly have an impact on the city budget. The Bloomberg administration, though, supported by both the Pataki and Bush administrations, views food stamps as a necessary and appropriate subsidy for low-wage workers and the non-working disabled. (However, Bloomberg has defied the poverty advocates by refusing to seek a waiver of the modest federal work requirement for food stamps.)

Then there's the burgeoning homeless-shelter population. The ranks of the homeless swelled only slightly during the last recession and had remained stable for ten years before 2001 - a tribute in part to the success of the Giuliani administration's tough-love approach to homelessness, which kept the homeless off the streets but also got them into treatment.

To its credit, the Bloomberg administration has sought to continue the Giuliani approach. The city fought and won an important lawsuit giving it the right to hold single homeless-shelter residents to behavioral standards, on pain of eviction. And it has also reached a consent decree with homeless advocates that places some limits on a homeless family's right to turn down apartments indefinitely.

The big bump up in homelessness over the last couple of years is due primarily to an increase in the number of families seeking temporary shelter, at an average cost to taxpayers of $2,900 per family per month. Many of the shelter-seekers, it turns out, are new arrivals in the city, taking advantage of its overly generous temporary-shelter provisions.

Despite these troubling developments, it's crucial to emphasize that the overall problem of dependency in New York remains dramatically better than it was a decade ago, or even five years ago. For example, the net drop of nearly 138,000 adult welfare recipients since late 1998 has coincided with a net rise of nearly 300,000 people in the city's labor force (those ther employed or seeking a job) during the same period, according to preliminary U.S. Department of Labor data.

With the national economy beginning to sizzle, the second half of Mayor Bloomberg's current term will be a critical time for reversing New York's troubling new public-assistance trends.

E.J. McMahon is Manhattan Institute senior fellow. Adapted from the new issue of City Journal.

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[NYIndependence]

Quote:But...When Bush's new immigration policy is in full swing you will see our economy crash and burn with taxes at all levels of govt. taking a huge jump. The problem is, once it happens there is no going back; we're stuck with the problem forever. All because of politicians who don't give a damn about anything but thr own careers.
Every period in American history (and the history of any other culture) has had the same xenophobic whistleblowers screaming about the economy, crime, etc. and somehow we have survived and become a stronger nation. It was the Jews, the Irish, the Italians, the Germans, the Poles, the Chinese, and now it's the Mexicans. This cyclical fear has to stop.
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[No Affiliation]

You appear to be speaking with the supreme confidence of the ignorant, but let's find out for sure.

Did you know that Goretta Doyle was killed by an illegal alien in Farmingville and the illegal alien GOT AWAY WITH IT?

Did you know there was an act of sexual aggression towards a FOUR YEAR OLD GIRL by an illegal alien in Farmingville?

Did you know a young girl was kidnapped in Medford by illegal aliens and the girl was recovered in another state?

I could list many many more examples.
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[NYIndependence]

Are you trying to say that immigrants are any more or any less likely to commit crimes than "native-born white citizens"?
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[No Affiliation]

FYI, it is one thing to committ a crime, it is another thing to committ a crime and GET AWAY WITH IT!! (as in illegal aliens are above the law) This subject needs more speakers who have experienced the reality of the illegal alien invasion and less "armchair experts" Illegal aliens must be deported. There were mass deportations in 1929 and 1954 and with modern transportation systems it can easily be done again.

However to answer your ridiculous question, anytime anyone(s) is not held accountable for thr actions(whether they be illegal aliens or treasonous elected officials who support them) one has to be concerned that it is MORE likely that bad things will happen. The policy of treasonous President Bush is that illegal aliens are above the law!!
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[NYIndependence]

OK, so for the record you are saying that immigrants are more likely to be acquitted than "native-born whites"?
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[shortwave]

Independence true or false:9/11 would never have happened if the US had a national origins immigration policy in place for the past 40 years that excluded muslims.
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[shortwave]

I put this question to everyone.
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[mcj]

Big business that that thrives on over population.
Another radio station in the area has gone over to Spanish speaking, already making Hispanics gloat that New York has the biggest population of Spanish speaking radio broadcasts anywhere in the country. Thats not counting all of the tv broadcasts on regular and cable broadcasts that air in Spanish. Where is the assimilation of Hispanics that occured with those ethnic groups you mentioned? Mexicans and many other Latino groups are not assimilating and our government knows this. It will only get worse with Bush's near amnesty plan.
You talk about xenophobia but at a rate that numbers in the millions of Spanish speaking immigrants a year that is farther from the truth. Many government agencies when you call and businesses want you to select the language you will use before continuing on the phone or when you fill out forms, thats not assimilation. THATS SEGREGATION.
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[shortwave]

mcj, immigrants in the past assimilated. But they were dragged kicking and screaming. And this was only possible because the immgration spigot was turned off. If immgration hadn't been turned off 70 years ago, Wisconson would be a German speaking state today. At the present time, there are two spanish spaking cities in the US-Miami and LA. Miami and LA are no lomger American cities. We have been invaded. The native born white populltion has been forced to pay for the invasion of thr own nation. In Independence's fantasy world, there are never any victims of US immigration policy past or present. Here is another question for independence:Would the immigration door be shut tight if the native born white population didn't have the option of fleng places such as Long Island, LA orMiami?
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[shortwave]

Slaq great idea. These bastards ned to be confronted. Peter Gadiet is the father of a son who died in the twin towers. You remenber the twin towers. The were destroyed by 19 muslim immigrants, 15 of whom were legal immgrants. Mr Gadiet has a web site you should check out. I think it's called 9/11 victims. Go to vdare.com for the link.
Mr. Gadliet went to the office of senator John Edwards to speak to him about US immgration policy. Senator Ewards refused to speak to wih him. Edward's aid treated him like a pce of dirt. Mr Gadiet is going after all of these treasonous politicians. You may want to send Mr. Gadiet an email about your idea.









































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[NYIndependence]

Such a policy is wildly unconstitutional and against everything this country stands for. By that token, you can assign blame to those liberal Muslim-loving Wright Brothers for inventing the tool of mass murder used on 9/11.
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[shortwave]

It's not unconstitutional. You didn't answer the question. you are ther in compete denial or you don't care about the conseuences of US immigration policy. Would 9/11 have happened? Yes or No. By th way, Do watch Lou Dobbs at all? Do you think he is making it all up? You know goddam well that current US immgration policy is lethal to the native born white population. Maybe you can quote Frank Sharry again.
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[shortwave]

Do you think the thousands of native born white men and women who believe they have been harmed by the H1B visa program are liars? Hallucinating?
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[shortwave]

What you have written is utter nonsense. The United States is not constitutionally obligated to allow anyone in. The Wright Brothers are not responsible for 9/11 because they invented the airplane. But the millions of muslim immigrants who use thr wealth to buy American politicians are. You really are a jackass. You expect us to just sit here and allow ourselves to be slaughtered. I have another question for you: How many american cities wold you like to transform into muslim enclaves? Are Americans constitutionally committed to this?
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[shortwave]

Independence, true or false: 9/1 never would have happened if the US had a national origins policy in place for the past 40 years that excluded Muslims.
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[mcj]

But if he stops and searches his conscience he would see that his remarks are also to the extreme. This is not good for the well bng of a stable country. Our world is not made up of like minded people. Some will go all out to destroy us. If we can not separate them from those who are good we have no choice but to limit certain people who have done us harm. Forgn Moslems should be screened before they are allowed here. They should be fingerprinted and thr identities checked out before they enter. Certain Moslem countries should be scrutinized more thoroughly and some should have thr citizens denied entry to America. Most of all we should stop pretending that some Islamic countries are our friends. Thr not.
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[Native NYer]

If the local Native Americans rejected the Pilgrims at Pymouth Rock and all the other "settlers" that came from Europe none of this would have happened.

[NYIndependence]

Quote:Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
A policy like the one you propose would determine government action based on no trait other than religion. Again, flagrantly unconstitutional.

I know you want me to say that 9/11 could have been prevented by prejudiced methods, and it could have. Then again, you're assuming that someone willing to hijack a plane is interested in playing by the rules. It is not only concvable but probable that the hijackers would have gained access to this country regardless of what immigration laws existed. Now you have blocked would-be contributors to American society so that America could be marginally safer.
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[NYIndependence]

Mcj, do yourself a favor and don't use the term "us". Each of you has arrived at vaguely similar political conclusions for different reasons (Hopefully). Judging from what has been said by people on your side of the argument, you would do wise to avoid bng grouped with them.
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May I respectfully say, that you need to do some homework on this subject if you want to make valid statements or ask valid questions? A good starting point is that illegal aliens are illegal, otherwise they would not be called illegal aliens. Try to get that concept down.

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[ChrisF202]

Then you can take a drive down Suffolk Avenue in Bay Shore/Brentwood and see how well they assilimate into our culture
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[NYIndependence]

Let's put it to the test. I'll give Shortwave the chance to clarify his statements. When you refer to Mexicans, are you referring to illegal immigrants or all immigrants, legal or otherwise?
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[shortwave]

Good Question. I'm obviously opposed to illegal immigration from Mexico. Many of the legal Mexican immigrants in the US came into the US illegally during the 1970's and 1980's. I view them as a Mexican fifth column that is concentrated in the American Southwest. LA is no longer an American city. I'm sure this makes you happy. My colleagues in the immigation reform movement tell me that the old time Mexican American population is strongly opposed to illegal immigration from Mexico. This might be true. Interestingly, one of the leaders in the immigation reform movement was Mexican American journalist Richard Estrada, editor of the Dallas Morning News. Estrada argued in his editorials that legal immigration should never exceed 100 thousand a year. Estrada believed that high levels of legal immigration posed a serious threat to the environment. Unfortunately, he died four years ago. By the the way, I never wrote that Mexicans were a separate species.
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[NYIndependence]

You said that white Americans are an endangered species. My sincerest apologies for thinking that by "species" you meant "species". It would be foolish of me to say that there should be no limits on immigration. We should put a cap on the number of immigrants entering this nation annually. If we were to secure the Mexican border, which Bush has done more than any predecessor (and you have overlooked), then we could maintain the number of immigrants below that cap and ensure that those that do come here are coming legally.
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[shortwave]

You really should read Roy Becks book The Case Against Immigration. This is the most important book ever written about US immigration policy.
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[mcj]

All residents have a legal and moral right to be protected from forgn enemies by thr government at all levels of society.
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[NYIndependence]

Don't confuse those who take up arms against the United States and those who come here looking for work. One is a forgn enemy and the other is a human bng deparate to share in our prosperity.
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[slaq567]

QUOTE: One is a forgn enemy and the other is a human bng deparate to share in our prosperity

I think you meant to say "steal our prosperity". No need to thank me...
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[shortwave]

Give them time and they will take up arms against native born white workers. Actually the situation is quite bizarre. Last week, in New York City, a group of Russian immigrant construction workers-they could very well be illegals-were viciously attacked by a group of Hispanic construction workers. This has been going on for at l a decade in New York City. Black and Hispanic gangs killing each other for scarce construction jobs. Low wage white workrs have been driven out of ocupation after in southern california by these "nice " Mexican immigrants. These "nice" Mexican immigrants make it very clear to the native born white workers who the forgners are. It's an invasion. When native born white workers run out places to flee to, they will figt back. The Mexicans invasion will be repelled. As will the H1B visa thiefs from India. There was a recent article in the open borders LA times which documented in graphic detail what the rest of us know to be true-immigration has many parts of california extremely unpleasant to live.
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[shortwave]

The fact that they are comming here to steal jobs from native born white men and women makes them the enemy of native born white men and women.The H1B visa thieves from India along with the facist goverment of India have already started issuing threats to native born white high tech workers. This is a life and death issue for native born white workers. For sophist like independence it's all a game.
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