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Unregistered303
07-24-2008, 10:31 PM
Whether it is the citizens of the community that are venting or the fireman who are complaining, could all this negativity be the beginning of the end of the volunteer fire service.

First of all, the people who are on here posting complaints have no idea what the volunteers have to go through to make their requirements each year to remain active and qualified. Second, these so called critics are not knocking on the doors of the Fire Departments all over long island asking to join. Lets remember that every volunteer fireman has a full time job, supporting himself, his family and raising their children just like the ordinary citizen. They ask for donations to be used to support themselves, whether it is meals after trainings, calls or whatever. They have parties, yes they do, but they also have fundraisers which they host to support these activities. Don't be so fast to criticize them because it takes a lot of hard work and dedication to do what they do.

As for the Fire Commissioners, shame on all of you citizens for not taking part in your responsibility to vote during the election process, attending meetings or even asking what goes on. You too are at fault here. These so called saviors like in East Meadow who is a disgruntled fireman who disgraced not only the office as a chief but to his Department took an oath to serve and is just trying to pay back those who had to take action against him. He would be right there with his friends, yes the Fire Commissioners if they weren't forced to take action.

Listen, I'm not saying that the actions of the Fire Commissioners are proper or just, but as citizens, you have sat back and let it happen.

The firemen who serve in your towns are there to protect and serve you the public, 24hrs a day, 7 days a week, you have no idea what the sacrifices made, missed dinners, little league games ect. Do you know what the cost will be to have a paid service? I am telling you now, you can expect a paid fireman to want parity with the Police both in Nassau and Suffolk. Why not.

Let me ask you, are you ready for that.

What is needed is Accountability...... This is what we need as well as the oversight of the Fire Districts. Each year, between 1000 and 2500 people vote in the Fire District elections, come on, that is a very small fraction of the community. The community must get involved to ensure that these elected officials are doing what is right for the fireman and the communities that they serve.

I ask that you don't go after the fireman, you need them, they love to serve and are proud of it. I have witnessed them leave their families to answer a call, regardless of what it is, you see, they don't know what they are going into, they might not even have said goodbye to their kids, it might be the last time they see them. They answer the call, they do not get paid, they are VOLUNTEERS! The next time you see them, try thanking them.

As for the Firemen, you have a responsibility also. Do not just go with the flow, the Commissioners are there to ensure that you have the best equipment, well maintained and perform their duties as directed by state and town law. You all are taxpayers too, if these Commissioners are not doing the right thing, make a change, just do not go with the flow.

All of these postings trashing the Fire Departments, Districts and the men and women who serve has to stop.

Enough is Enough. Make the Change on Election Day this December.

Thank you.

All well and good
07-25-2008, 01:15 AM
The previous poster's comments are all well and good except for when you remember the Newsday expose' of Long Island Fire Departments and the ridiculous amounts of money that were spent (subsidized and otherwise) on the building and rebuilding of Fire House Mansions, and on Fire Trucks that have all the bells and whistles you can think of (most unneeded in the communities they serve). Most of these new million dollar fire trucks cannot even fit down the streets of their own communities. Lets not forget the scandals of drunken driving of fire trucks, parties at the Fire Mansions where prostitutes were paid for with community monies. And last but not least, how about the assaults committed by Vollies who were drunk and driving around in fire trucks looking for trouble? Most of the men and women who serve in the fire service are there for just that, to serve, but you all know that there is a large population of the service who are there for political gain, jobs or a social outlet. Dare I say many are frustrated "paid" fireman who couldnt get the job, (buffs if you will), and of course the pyro's. Lets call a spade a spade, most vollies couldnt pass a physical to get a paid Fireman's job if they had a year to prep. Beer is number one on the agenda.
The monies spent and exposed by Newsday is an affront to all of the hard working men and women on Long Island who are not being properly served by a good portion of these clowns and their commissioners.

Unregisteredbecause
07-25-2008, 03:04 AM
303 you dont have a clue about East Meadow, I am the Ex chief and I am not disgruntle but just standing up for myself. What do you call 5 commissioners that covered up a chief that raped another fireman, Thats the tip of the iceberg and they left me no other choice but to take the action I did because I am Inocent, But lets see how you defend the guys in E M and trash me.

Unregistered303
07-25-2008, 01:03 PM
Weren't you best buds with Beck, Surless, Neill, Finkelman's and Welt? Weren't you side by side at the conventions, drinking, getting the perks, ect!!!!!!!!! We all know you were! By the way, calling yourself an Ex-Chief is a joke, that term is reserved for those who completed their terms in office.

You see, I know you and I know that your main goal is to destroy the Commissioners which i have no problem with, they have put themselves in this position, but to take down the work of the men and women who protect the community is just damn wrong.

You helped elect alot of those individuals to office because it benefited you, you see, i do know a lot about you. Why don't you tell the community how you were the one behind the "HOT OIL WRESTLING" that the community had a fit about. HEY ALL YOU WHO POST, REMEMBER THAT, WELL THAT WAS THE WORK OF MIKE FINNEGAN! Tell them how you didn't give a damn about what they said and how you attacked the Chief's at that time and worked your ass off to get rid of the Commissioners, who at the time were much better than what is there now... You see, I do know you. You received all the perks, your cellphone bill was a grand a month and you were a disgrace to the office, 95% of the Department thought so and were shocked and amazed by your behavior.

As for the rape, why hasn't the police been called, the DA or anyone picked up on this.. Why hasnt the woman reported this, its not like she will lose her job! Did it happen or is it a rumor!

I am totally against the whole cell tower issue, also i think that these Commissioners are a disgrace and are ruining the reputation of the Fire Department. In East Meadow we have the best damn fire department and provide the best services to the community out of any department on long island. I have lived in EM my whole life and I have known you for a long time and those who know you know that this is personal.....

Unregistered303
07-25-2008, 01:30 PM
You are from East Meadow right? Have you ever had these issues of drunk driving of a fire truck? Your accusations of prostitutes being paid with community monies are just damn false. THAT NEVER HAPPENED. As for your other accusations, they are false. Why dont you make a change and volunteer yourself. You see, the #1 priority for the East Meadow Fire Department is the protection of the East Meadow Community. You have the best damn fire department in New York State. I agree that the Commissioners have to go and what they did with regards to the Cell Tower issue is disgusting. I also think that the issues raised about expenditures at the Fire District require a complete investigation.

Do not put East Meadow in with the unfortunate incidents around long island that have tarnished the Volunteer Service. Also, every volunteer fireman must pass the same physical as a paid fireman, that is a fact. Fire is fire, whether it is in NYC or out on long island. You have your bad apples, it happens in government, the police, fire and other public safety services. The fire service is governed by strict rules and these rules must be maintained for the protection of the fireman and the community... If these rules weren't followed, you would be paying a higher rate of insurance... You have a top rated Fire Department in East Meadow and in other communities around Nassau and Suffolk County.

Fine and well, attack the Fire District, its Commissioners but unless there is an issue or action that the Fire Department did to disgrace the community, dont bash the men and women who serve. You need all the facts, why dont you go down to your local department and ask what the requirements are, you would be amazed at what the men and women must do to maintain their status and protect their community. Oh, by the way, they do this while supporting their families, they work two jobs, they coach sports teams, they serve their communities and churches. I thought you should also know that.. Do some research, talk to the men and women, the work their asses off to protect their communities. NEWSDAY reports what it wants, all the good stories about the Fire Service do not get reported. Hey, go paid, i would love to make over 100 grand a year sitting at the fire house in Nassau County! You have a great service being provided by dedicated men and women, do you want to wait 15-30 minutes for a police ambulance? The fire service can cut back on the EMS part of their service and save alot of money, is this the direction you want to go? Do you want a paid service? I dont think so.

Do your research and get back to me.

embarrassed
07-26-2008, 12:46 AM
If you know Mike, than you know it was not a female, but a male that was violated. Violated by an ex-thief, I mean ex-chief of the department. An ex-chief who sodomized a fellow member. An ex chief who stole from the department. An ex-chief who did in fact finish out his term. Therefore the department can be proud of him. Keep it quiet and all is ok. That's the mentality that is destroying our department, not Mike Finnegan. I too am a member and saw a lot of the good things Mike did both for the depot and for many members and their family members. I won't go into detail because I along with many other members know 1st hand all he has done. He didn't always do what was popular with everyone, but he sure didn't stab anyone in the back. If he had something to say - he said it to your face. I am embarrassed at the way many in the department sold him out after all he did, but I am not surprised.

Still Out there
07-28-2008, 12:04 PM
Although commissioners finkelman (who seems to have unlimited & unlawful use of one of a handfull of unmarked vehicles and free gas) & welt did a lot of talking at the budget hearing last October, they did not mention ONE single word about a potential $250,000.00 per year contract with a cell phone company. Yet just two weeks after the budget hearing, commissioner finkelman signed the contract with Omnipoint for the cell tower deal. Anyone who was at the “cell tower” hearing a couple months later heard finkelman say this was not something they rushed into and that he looked into this for many months before signing the contract. Why was this not mentioned at the budget hearing? When cary welt gave all his numbers and calculations and explainations of how expensive it is to opperate the fire department, why no mention of a QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS? When he stated that it cost a million dollars to buy a fire truck, why was there no mention that he had a plan that could save the taxpayers a QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS or 25% on the next truck we purchase. When cary welt sat there and told the taxpayers that they will be paying an increase of about 3 1/2% why didn’t he say the budget will not increase because we are signing a contract with a cell company which will net the district 5 % of the budget, therefor we have no need for an increase, and actually will have a 1 1/2% decrease? The reason why nothing was mentioned is because this money was going to be spent illegally. They would just add it to the books and spend it how they see fit. You can bet that they will claim that this is impossible and that they would never and could never do something like this, but I garauntee you that was the overall plan. Just let them give one good reason why NOT ONE WORD WAS EVER MENTIONED AT THE BUDGET HEARING ABOUT THE CELL TOWER DEAL AND THE SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THE TAXPAYERS WOULD SAVE. NOT ONE WORD!!! NOT ONE WORD WAS EVER RELEASED TO ANY EAST MEADOW RESIDENT INCLUDING THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THE TOWERS UNTIL MIKE FINNEGAN FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AND NOTIFIED THE HOMEOWNERS AND MANY OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY. The reason why nothing was ever mentioned is because this was clearly something they were going to sneak in and skim the money from the taxpayers. There would have been more unmarked cars with more insurance and more fuel. There is already much too much waste going on in the district, we don’t need more stealing - we need to get rid of the thieves. How many cars does the district have? Why does the district supervisor need a car? He makes over $82,000.00 a year before overtime plus benefits. Let him drive his own car and buy his own gas just like all the hard working taxpayers who pay his salery do. Now go ahead and tell me how crazy Mike Finnegan is and how he makes all this stuff up. There were plenty of people at the budget hearing and the cell tower meeting and they now know they are being lied to. People may be busy, but they are not stupid. Thanks to Mike the truth is finally coming out. More of the community and more of the firemen are getting fed up and it is only a matter of time before some big changes are made. That is a short time, not a long time.

Unregistered123
08-01-2008, 09:30 PM
no

Unregistered!!!!
08-04-2008, 12:46 PM
Absolutely!!!! Morons

Unregistered & not Paid
08-04-2008, 01:41 PM
The previous poster's comments are all well and good except for when you remember the Newsday expose' of Long Island Fire Departments and the ridiculous amounts of money that were spent (subsidized and otherwise) on the building and rebuilding of Fire House Mansions, and on Fire Trucks that have all the bells and whistles you can think of (most unneeded in the communities they serve). Most of these new million dollar fire trucks cannot even fit down the streets of their own communities. Lets not forget the scandals of drunken driving of fire trucks, parties at the Fire Mansions where prostitutes were paid for with community monies. And last but not least, how about the assaults committed by Vollies who were drunk and driving around in fire trucks looking for trouble? Most of the men and women who serve in the fire service are there for just that, to serve, but you all know that there is a large population of the service who are there for political gain, jobs or a social outlet. Dare I say many are frustrated "paid" fireman who couldnt get the job, (buffs if you will), and of course the pyro's. Lets call a spade a spade, most vollies couldnt pass a physical to get a paid Fireman's job if they had a year to prep. Beer is number one on the agenda.
The monies spent and exposed by Newsday is an affront to all of the hard working men and women on Long Island who are not being properly served by a good portion of these clowns and their commissioners.

wow sounds like a typical city moron who also a volly. oh yeah you never hear about coked out city firemen beating up their brothers or banging whores in the firehouse. get a grip dick

Unregisteredandpaid
08-05-2008, 12:07 AM
volunteering is a thing of the past

UnregisteredUFA
08-05-2008, 03:18 PM
spoken like a true UFA asswipe.....

KEEP PAYING THEM DUES JACKASS.

Unregistered:>
08-14-2008, 06:39 PM
Accountability is a concept in ethics with several meanings. It is often used synonymously with such concepts as answerability, enforcement, responsibility, blameworthiness, liability and other terms associated with the expectation of account-giving. As an aspect of governance, it has been central to discussions related to problems in both the public and private (corporation) worlds.

Accountability is defined as "A is accountable to B when A is obliged to inform B about A’s (past or future) actions and decisions, to justify them, and to suffer punishment in the case of eventual misconduct" [1].

In leadership roles, accountability is the acknowledgment and assumption of responsibility for actions, products, decisions, and policies including the administration, governance and implementation within the scope of the role or employment position and encompassing the obligation to report, explain and be answerable for resulting consequences.

Unregisteredyes
08-15-2008, 08:04 PM
yes

UnregisteredUFA
08-19-2008, 07:51 PM
For me and my Union buddies to bash on!

UFA Unregistered
08-20-2008, 04:01 PM
U nemployable
F irefighting
A ss Pirates

Ooops Sorry
08-30-2008, 08:11 PM
For me and my Union buddies to bash on!

The good thing is that tax cuts will eventually rid us of the unions. Volunteers don't get laid off. LOL

Unregisteredbooooooo
09-03-2008, 12:18 PM
hurray getting paid to eat and sleep in a firehouse!

10-75 da box k
09-03-2008, 12:22 PM
U nemployable
F irefighting
A ss Pirates

HAHAHA THATS FUCKING RICH! CLASSIC!

2 much
09-04-2008, 08:05 PM
You guys are too much !

Paid / Volly what does it matter? this service is a calling not a profession or a hobby! There are ample examples of shitheads and heroes on both sides but we all know the brothers we can count on regardless of their status. And how is this different from any other aspect of life? All that you guys do by posting your childish BS here is disrespect those who went before you. We'd all benefit by a little history where we remember the good that has been done by our brothers, those who've been lost and those who set examples of leadership. We all need to maintain a deep respect for the taxpayers and communities we serve and the very best way that happens if we serve close to where we live, regardless of status.

Bring the pride back. Remember traditional values. Live and lead by example.
Stop the horsehit.

Unregistered Tru Dat
09-04-2008, 08:19 PM
You guys are too much !

Paid / Volly what does it matter? this service is a calling not a profession or a hobby! There are ample examples of shitheads and heroes on both sides but we all know the brothers we can count on regardless of their status. And how is this different from any other aspect of life? All that you guys do by posting your childish BS here is disrespect those who went before you. We'd all benefit by a little history where we remember the good that has been done by our brothers, those who've been lost and those who set examples of leadership. We all need to maintain a deep respect for the taxpayers and communities we serve and the very best way that happens if we serve close to where we live, regardless of status.

Bring the pride back. Remember traditional values. Live and lead by example.
Stop the horsehit.

It's amazing how many issue would be addressed if folks took your advice...

BROTHERHOOD!
09-05-2008, 02:30 PM
You guys are too much !

Paid / Volly what does it matter? this service is a calling not a profession or a hobby! There are ample examples of shitheads and heroes on both sides but we all know the brothers we can count on regardless of their status. And how is this different from any other aspect of life? All that you guys do by posting your childish BS here is disrespect those who went before you. We'd all benefit by a little history where we remember the good that has been done by our brothers, those who've been lost and those who set examples of leadership. We all need to maintain a deep respect for the taxpayers and communities we serve and the very best way that happens if we serve close to where we live, regardless of status.

Bring the pride back. Remember traditional values. Live and lead by example.
Stop the horsehit.


AGREED, BRING BACK THE BROTHERHOOD!

Always remember 911
09-07-2008, 03:38 PM
Brothers,
Honor these men everyday in the things you do while wearing The Maltese Cross. Not just on and around September 11th.

Take some time to read through this list and reflect on the sacrifice that these men made.

NEVER FORGET

Joseph Agnello, Lad.118 Lt. Brian Ahearn, Bat.13 Eric Allen, Sqd.18 (D) Richard Allen, Lad.15 Cpt. James Amato, Sqd.1 Calixto Anaya Jr., Eng.4 Joseph Agnello, Lad.118 Lt. Brian Ahearn, Bat.13 Eric Allen, Sqd.18 (D) Richard Allen, Lad.15 Cpt. James Amato, Sqd.1 Calixto Anaya Jr., Eng.4 Joseph Angelini, Res.1 (D) Joseph Angelini Jr., Lad.4 Faustino Apostol Jr., Bat.2 David Arce, Eng.33 Louis A rena, Lad 5 (D) Carl Asaro, Bat.9 Lt. Gregg Atlas, Eng.10 Gerald Atwood, Lad.21

Gerald Baptiste, Lad.9 A.C. Gerard Barbara, Cmd. Ctr. Matthew Barnes, Lad.25 Arthur Barry, Lad.15 Lt.Steven Bates, Eng.235 Carl Bedigian, Eng.214 Stephen Belson, Bat.7 John Bergin, Res.5 Paul Beyer, Eng.6 Peter Bielfeld, Lad.42 Brian Bilcher, Sqd.1 Carl Bini, Res.5 Christopher Blackwell, Res.3 Michael Bocchino, Bat.48 Frank Bonomo, Eng.230 Gary Box, Sqd.1 Michael Boyle, Eng.33 Kevin Bracken, Eng.40 Michael Brennan, Lad.4 Peter Brennan, Res.4 Cpt. Daniel Brethel, Lad.24 (D) Cpt. Patrick Brown, Lad.3 Andrew Brunn, Lad.5 (D) Cpt. Vincent Brunton, Lad.105 F.M. Ronald Bucca Greg Buck, Eng.201 Cpt. William Burke Jr., Eng.21 A.C. Donald Burns, Cmd. Ctr. John Burnside, Lad.20 Thomas Butler, Sqd.1 Patrick Byrne, Lad.101

George Cain, Lad.7 Salvatore Calabro, Lad.101 Cpt. Frank Callahan, Lad.35 Michael Cammarata, Lad.11 Brian Cannizzaro, Lad.101 Dennis Carey, Hmc.1 Michael Carlo, Eng.230 Michael Carroll, Lad.3 Peter Carroll, Sqd.1 (D) Thomas Casoria, Eng.22 Michael Cawley, Lad.136 Vernon Cherry, Lad.118 Nicholas Chiofalo, Eng.235 John Chipura, Eng.219 Michael Clarke, Lad.2 Steven Coakley, Eng.217 Tarel Coleman, Sqd.252 John Collins, Lad.25 Robert Cordice, Sqd.1 Ruben Correa, Eng.74 James Coyle, Lad.3 Robert Crawford, Safety Lt. John Crisci, H.M. B.C. Dennis Cross, Bat.57 (D) Thomas Cullen III, Sqd. 41 Robert Curatolo, Lad.16 (D)

Lt. Edward D'Atri, Sqd.1 Michael D'Auria, Eng.40 Scott Davidson, Lad.118 Edward Day, Lad.11 B.C. Thomas DeAngelis, Bat. 8 Manuel Delvalle, Eng.5 Martin DeMeo, H.M. 1 David DeRubbio, Eng.226 Lt. Andrew Desperito, Eng.1 (D) B.C. Dennis Devlin, Bat.9 Gerard Dewan, Lad.3 George DiPasquale, Lad.2 Lt. Kevin Donnelly, Lad.3 Lt. Kevin Dowdell, Res.4 B.C. Raymond Downey, Soc. Gerard Duffy, Lad.21

Cpt. Martin Egan, Jr., Div.15 (D) Michael Elferis, Eng.22 Francis Esposito, Eng.235 Lt. Michael Esposito, Sqd.1 Robert Evans, Eng.33

B.C. John Fanning, H.O. Cpt. Thomas Farino, Eng.26 Terrence Farrell, Res.4 Cpt. Joseph Farrelly, Div.1 Dep. Comm. William Feehan, (D) Lee Fehling, Eng.235 Alan Feinberg, Bat.9 Michael Fiore, Res.5 Lt. John Fischer, Lad.20 Andre Fletcher, Res.5 John Florio, Eng.214 Lt. Michael Fodor, Lad.21 Thomas Foley, Res.3 David Fontana, Sqd.1 Robert Foti, Lad.7 Andrew Fredericks, Sqd.18 Lt. Peter Freund, Eng.55

Thomas Gambino Jr., Res.3 Chief of Dept. Peter Ganci, Jr. (D) Lt. Charles Garbarini, Bat.9 Thomas Gardner, Hmc.1 Matthew Garvey, Sqd.1 Bruce Gary, Eng.40 Gary Geidel, Res.1 B.C. Edward Geraghty, Bat.9 Dennis Germain, Lad.2 Lt. Vincent Giammona, Lad.5 James Giberson, Lad.35 Ronnie Gies, Sqd.288 Paul Gill, Eng.54 Lt. John Ginley, Eng.40 Jeffrey Giordano, Lad.3 John Giordano, Hmc.1 Keith Glascoe, Lad.21 James Gray, Lad.20 B.C. Joseph Grzelak, Bat.48 Jose Guadalupe, Eng.54 Lt. Geoffrey Guja, Bat.43 Lt. Joseph Gullickson, Lad.101

David Halderman, Sqd.18 Lt. Vincent Halloran, Lad.8 Robert Hamilton, Sqd.41 Sean Hanley, Lad.20 (D) Thomas Hannafin, Lad.5 Dana Hannon, Eng.26 Daniel Harlin, Lad.2 Lt. Harvey Harrell, Res.5 Lt. Stephen Harrell, Bat.7 Cpt. Thomas Haskell, Jr., Div.15 Timothy Haskell, Sqd.18 (D) Cpt. Terence Hatton, Res.1 Michael Haub, Lad.4 Philip T. Hayes, Eng.217 (Ret) Lt. Michael Healey, Sqd.41 John Hefferman, Lad.11 Ronnie Henderson, Eng.279 Joseph Henry, Lad.21 William Henry, Res.1 (D) Thomas Hetzel, Lad.13 Cpt. Brian Hickey, Res.4 Lt. Timothy Higgins, S.O.C. Jonathan Hohmann, Hmc.1 Thomas Holohan, Eng.6 Joseph Hunter, Sqd.288 Cpt. Walter Hynes, Lad.13 (D)

Jonathan Ielpi, Sqd.288 Cpt. Frederick Ill Jr., Lad.2

William Johnston, Eng.6 Andrew Jordan, Lad.132 Karl Joseph, Eng.207 Lt. Anthony Jovic, Bat.47 Angel Juarbe Jr., Lad.12 Mychal Judge, Chaplain (D)

Vincent Kane, Eng.22 B.C. Charles Kasper, S.O.C. Paul Keating, Lad.5 Richard Kelly Jr., Lad.11 Thomas R. Kelly, Lad.15 Thomas W. Kelly, Lad.105 Thomas Kennedy, Lad.101 Lt. Ronald Kerwin, Sqd.288 Michael Kiefer, Lad.132 Robert King Jr., Eng.33 Scott Kopytko, Lad.15 William Krukowski, Lad.21 Kenneth Kumpel, Lad.25 Thomas Kuveikis, Sqd.252

David LaForge, Lad.20 William Lake, Res.2 Robert Lane, Eng.55 Peter Langone, Sqd.252 Scott Larsen, Lad.15 Lt. Joseph Leavey, Lad.15 Neil Leavy, Eng.217 Daniel Libretti, Res.2 Carlos Lillo, Paramedic Robert Linnane, Lad.20 Michael Lynch, Eng.40 Michael Lynch, Lad.4 Michael Lyons, Sqd.41 Patrick Lyons, Sqd.252

Joseph Maffeo, Lad.101 William Mahoney, Res 4 Joseph Maloney, Lad.3 (D) B.C. Joseph Marchbanks Jr, Bat.12 Lt. Charles Margiotta, Bat.22 Kenneth Marino, Res.1 John Marshall, Eng.23 Lt. Peter Martin, Res.2 Lt. Paul Martini, Eng.23 Joseph Mascali, T.S.U. 2 Keithroy Maynard, Eng.33 Brian McAleese, Eng.226 John McAvoy, Lad.3 Thomas McCann, Bat.8 Lt. William McGinn, Sqd.18 B.C. William McGovern, Bat.2 (D) Dennis McHugh, Lad.13 Robert McMahon, Lad.20 Robert McPadden, Eng.23 Terence McShane, Lad.101 Timothy McSweeney, Lad.3 Martin McWilliams, Eng.22 (D) Raymond Meisenheimer, Res.3 Charles Mendez, Lad.7 Steve Mercado, Eng.40 Douglas Miller, Res.5 Henry Miller Jr, Lad.105 Robert Minara, Lad.25 Thomas Mingione, Lad.132 Lt. Paul Mitchell, Bat.1 Capt. Louis Modafferi, Res.5 Lt. Dennis Mojica, Res.1 (D) Manuel Mojica, Sqd.18 (D) Carl Molinaro, Lad.2 Michael Montesi, Res.1 Capt. Thomas Moody, Div.1 B.C. John Moran, Bat.49 Vincent Morello, Lad.35 Christopher Mozzillo, Eng.55 Richard Muldowney Jr, Lad.07 Michael Mullan, Lad.12 Dennis Mulligan, Lad.2 Lt. Raymond Murphy, Lad.16

Lt. Robert Nagel, Eng.58 John Napolitano, Res.2 Peter Nelson, Res.4 Gerard Nevins, Res.1

Dennis O'Berg, Lad.105 Lt. Daniel O'Callaghan, Lad.4 Douglas Oelschlager, Lad.15 Joseph Ogren, Lad.3 Lt. Thomas O'Hagan, Bat.4 Samuel Oitice, Lad.4 Patrick O'Keefe, Res.1 Capt. William O'Keefe, Div.15 (D) Eric Olsen, Lad.15 Jeffery Olsen, Eng.10 Steven Olson, Lad.3 Kevin O'Rourke, Res.2 Michael Otten, Lad.35

Jeffery Palazzo, Res.5 B.C. Orio Palmer, Bat.7 Frank Palombo, Lad.105 Paul Pansini, Eng.10 B.C. John Paolillo, Bat.11 James Pappageorge, Eng.23 Robert Parro, Eng.8 Durrell Pearsall, Res.4 Lt. Glenn Perry, Bat.12 Lt. Philip Petti, Bat.7 Lt. Kevin Pfeifer, Eng. 33 Lt. Kenneth Phelan, Bat.32 Christopher Pickford, Eng.201 Shawn Powell, Eng.207 Vincent Princiotta, Lad.7 Kevin Prior, Sqd.252 B.C. Richard Prunty, Bat.2 (D)

Lincoln Quappe, Res.2 Lt. Michael Quilty, Lad.11 Ricardo Quinn, Paramedic

Leonard Ragaglia, Eng.54 Michael Ragusa, Eng.279 Edward Rall, Res.2 Adam Rand, Sqd.288 Donald Regan, Res.3 Lt. Robert Regan, Lad.118 Christian Regenhard, Lad.131 Kevin Reilly, Eng.207 Lt. Vernon Richard, Lad.7 James Riches, Eng.4 Joseph Rivelli, Lad.25 Michael Roberts, Eng.214 Michael E. Roberts, Lad.35 Anthony Rodriguez, Eng.279 Matthew Rogan, Lad.11 Nicholas Rossomando, Res.5 Paul Ruback, Lad.25 Stephen Russell, Eng.55 Lt. Michael Russo, S.O.C. B.C. Matthew Ryan, Bat.1

Thomas Sabella, Lad.13 Christopher Santora, Eng.54 John Santore, Lad.5 (D) Gregory Saucedo, Lad.5 Dennis Scauso, H.M. 1 John Schardt, Eng.201 B.C. Fred Scheffold, Bat.12 Thomas Schoales, Eng.4 Gerard Schrang, Res.3 (D) Gregory Sikorsky, Sqd.41 Stephen Siller, Sqd.1 Stanley Smagala Jr, Eng.226 Kevin Smith, H.M. 1 Leon Smith Jr, Lad 118 Robert Spear Jr, Eng.26 Joseph Spor, Res.3 B.C. Lawrence Stack, Bat.50 Cpt. Timothy Stackpole, Div.11 (D) Gregory Stajk, Lad.13 Jeffery Stark, Eng.230 Benjamin Suarez, Lad.21 Daniel Suhr, Eng.216 (D) Lt. Christopher Sullivan, Lad.111 Brian Sweeney, Res.1

Sean Tallon, Lad.10 Allan Tarasiewicz, Res.5 Paul Tegtmeier, Eng.4 John Tierney, Lad.9 John Tipping II, Lad.4 Hector Tirado Jr, Eng.23

Richard Vanhine, Sqd.41 Peter Vega, Lad.118 Lawrence Veling, Eng.235 John Vigiano II, Lad.132 Sergio Villanueva, Lad.132 Lawrence Virgilio, Sqd.18 (D)

Lt. Robert Wallace, Eng.205 Jeffery Walz, Lad. 9 Lt. Michael Warchola, Lad.5 (D) Capt. Patrick Waters, S.O.C. Kenneth Watson, Eng.214 Michael Weinberg, Eng.1 (D) David Weiss, Res.1 Timothy Welty, Sqd.288 Eugene Whelan, Eng.230 Edward White, Eng.230 Mark Whitford, Eng.23 Lt. Glenn Wilkinson, Eng.238 (D) B.C. John Williamson, Bat.6 (D) Capt. David Wooley, Lad.4

Raymond York, Eng.285 (D)


And don't forget the other 2,630 innocent victims of this cowardly act. May they, their families and friends find peace.

thanks jesus
09-07-2008, 03:41 PM
and remember: only u can prevent forest fires!

Unregistered man
09-10-2008, 02:03 AM
man I can't believe you assholes are making a joke of this on this site

retired ems
09-26-2008, 12:58 AM
what needs to happen with fire and ems in suffolk county is we need people that are going to do their job and not screw around. the departments need to start having more structure and the chiefs and officers need to be more strict and start penalizing those members who commit acts of insubordination, conduct unbecoming of a member or even an officer. We need people who are going to take this line of "work" seriously. I got outta of ems because it's become like the "good ol' boys club". They don't want you a member of their dept if you don't fit into their click. Too many members are getting away with stuff and the higher ups look the other way and don't do anything about it. I know of one incident where a chief responded to a fatal motorcycle mva legally intoxicated and knew the other main chief was there. They did nothing except suspend him for 6 months ! They didn't even toss him out ! I was shocked that such a thing could happen. EMS, more so, then Fire is dying because of incidents like this. I wana know that if I call 911 that I'm gonna get sober EMTs and Firefighters taking care of me. Not drunk, careless, irresponsible people.