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Unregistered303
07-24-2008, 07:56 PM
Whether it is the citizens of the community that are venting or the fireman who are complaining, could all this negativity be the beginning of the end of the volunteer fire service.

First of all, the people who are on here posting complaints have no idea what the volunteers have to go through to make their requirements each year to remain active and qualified. Second, these so called critics are not knocking on the doors of the Fire Departments all over long island asking to join. Lets remember that every volunteer fireman has a full time job, supporting himself, his family and raising their children just like the ordinary citizen. They ask for donations to be used to support themselves, whether it is meals after trainings, calls or whatever. They have parties, yes they do, but they also have fundraisers which they host to support these activities. Don't be so fast to criticize them because it takes a lot of hard work and dedication to do what they do.

As for the Fire Commissioners, shame on all of you citizens for not taking part in your responsibility to vote during the election process, attending meetings or even asking what goes on. You too are at fault here. These so called saviors like in East Meadow who is a disgruntled fireman who disgraced not only the office as a chief but to his Department took an oath to serve and is just trying to pay back those who had to take action against him. He would be right there with his friends, yes the Fire Commissioners if they weren't forced to take action.

Listen, I'm not saying that the actions of the Fire Commissioners are proper or just, but as citizens, you have sat back and let it happen.

The firemen who serve in your towns are there to protect and serve you the public, 24hrs a day, 7 days a week, you have no idea what the sacrifices made, missed dinners, little league games ect. Do you know what the cost will be to have a paid service? I am telling you now, you can expect a paid fireman to want parity with the Police both in Nassau and Suffolk. Why not.

Let me ask you, are you ready for that.

What is needed is Accountability...... This is what we need as well as the oversight of the Fire Districts. Each year, between 1000 and 2500 people vote in the Fire District elections, come on, that is a very small fraction of the community. The community must get involved to ensure that these elected officials are doing what is right for the fireman and the communities that they serve.

I ask that you don't go after the fireman, you need them, they love to serve and are proud of it. I have witnessed them leave their families to answer a call, regardless of what it is, you see, they don't know what they are going into, they might not even have said goodbye to their kids, it might be the last time they see them. They answer the call, they do not get paid, they are VOLUNTEERS! The next time you see them, try thanking them.

As for the Firemen, you have a responsibility also. Do not just go with the flow, the Commissioners are there to ensure that you have the best equipment, well maintained and perform their duties as directed by state and town law. You all are taxpayers too, if these Commissioners are not doing the right thing, make a change, just do not go with the flow.

All of these postings trashing the Fire Departments, Districts and the men and women who serve has to stop.

Enough is Enough. Make the Change on Election Day this December.

Thank you.

EAST MEADOWCOMMUNITY
07-24-2008, 08:22 PM
I understand the in East Meadow, the District Commissioners do not allow any
part of the meeting devoted to community participation. That means in
East Meadow you can't ask any questions to the Commissioners about its operations it seems to be a sacred cow and they do what they want.
I agree Election Day, December 9th, 2008, the should throw out Chairman
Carey Welt into the street where he belongs. I also understand that other
district have community participation during the meetings and any taxpayer
can ask questions. This is not the case in East Meadow Fire District.

open the floor
07-28-2008, 12:18 PM
Although commissioners finkelman (who seems to have unlimited & unlawful use of one of a handfull of unmarked vehicles and free gas) & welt did a lot of talking at the budget hearing last October, they did not mention ONE single word about a potential $250,000.00 per year contract with a cell phone company. Yet just two weeks after the budget hearing, commissioner finkelman signed the contract with Omnipoint for the cell tower deal. Anyone who was at the “cell tower” hearing a couple months later heard finkelman say this was not something they rushed into and that he looked into this for many months before signing the contract. Why was this not mentioned at the budget hearing? When cary welt gave all his numbers and calculations and explainations of how expensive it is to opperate the fire department, why no mention of a QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS? When he stated that it cost a million dollars to buy a fire truck, why was there no mention that he had a plan that could save the taxpayers a QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS or 25% on the next truck we purchase. When cary welt sat there and told the taxpayers that they will be paying an increase of about 3 1/2% why didn’t he say the budget will not increase because we are signing a contract with a cell company which will net the district 5 % of the budget, therefor we have no need for an increase, and actually will have a 1 1/2% decrease? The reason why nothing was mentioned is because this money was going to be spent illegally. They would just add it to the books and spend it how they see fit. You can bet that they will claim that this is impossible and that they would never and could never do something like this, but I garauntee you that was the overall plan. Just let them give one good reason why NOT ONE WORD WAS EVER MENTIONED AT THE BUDGET HEARING ABOUT THE CELL TOWER DEAL AND THE SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THE TAXPAYERS WOULD SAVE. NOT ONE WORD!!! NOT ONE WORD WAS EVER RELEASED TO ANY EAST MEADOW RESIDENT INCLUDING THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THE TOWERS UNTIL MIKE FINNEGAN FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AND NOTIFIED THE HOMEOWNERS AND MANY OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY. The reason why nothing was ever mentioned is because this was clearly something they were going to sneak in and skim the money from the taxpayers. There would have been more unmarked cars with more insurance and more fuel. There is already much too much waste going on in the district, we don’t need more stealing - we need to get rid of the thieves. How many cars does the district have? Why does the district supervisor need a car? He makes over $82,000.00 a year before overtime plus benefits. Let him drive his own car and buy his own gas just like all the hard working taxpayers who pay his salery do. Now go ahead and tell me how crazy Mike Finnegan is and how he makes all this stuff up. There were plenty of people at the budget hearing and the cell tower meeting and they now know they are being lied to. People may be busy, but they are not stupid. Thanks to Mike the truth is finally coming out. More of the community and more of the firemen are getting fed up and it is only a matter of time before some big changes are made. That is a short time, not a long time.

Guest 23
07-28-2008, 03:16 PM
How could a line of postings like this NOT be the beginning of the end of the volunteer fire service. Any casual reader would have to assume that just about every firehouse on Long Island is populated by lowlife gavones.

If you're already a member, and have any pride in what you do, that pride has to be shaken by what you read from members of your own house. It has to get you to begin thinking about separating yourself from such a shiteheap. And if the reader isn't yet a member, I can't think of too many things more likely to keep him that way than to have him reading this crap on a website.

Who needs Newsday to work the fire service over? Why worry about LBLtJag and what he has to say about the value of volunteer firefighters? We seem to be more than happy to do it for ourselves. Abd the more I read, even if only 10% is true, the more I think that maybe Newsday and the good Lt. aren't all that wrong after all.

Pride of service? Band of brothers? Unpaid professionals? Forget it, guys, a bunch of fools with access to computers are sinking the whole thing. It's a pity, but that seems to be the reality.

Think about it, fools, before you post another line like, oh let's say "Middle Island Hose Monsters" or something and maybe, just maybe, get a life instead.

Get a Life you say
07-28-2008, 04:23 PM
What are you talking about? Proof read before you submit.

UnregisteredYES
08-01-2008, 08:34 PM
And Yes

How Tru It is
08-06-2008, 05:59 PM
How could a line of postings like this NOT be the beginning of the end of the volunteer fire service. Any casual reader would have to assume that just about every firehouse on Long Island is populated by lowlife gavones.

If you're already a member, and have any pride in what you do, that pride has to be shaken by what you read from members of your own house. It has to get you to begin thinking about separating yourself from such a shiteheap. And if the reader isn't yet a member, I can't think of too many things more likely to keep him that way than to have him reading this crap on a website.

Who needs Newsday to work the fire service over? Why worry about LBLtJag and what he has to say about the value of volunteer firefighters? We seem to be more than happy to do it for ourselves. Abd the more I read, even if only 10% is true, the more I think that maybe Newsday and the good Lt. aren't all that wrong after all.

Pride of service? Band of brothers? Unpaid professionals? Forget it, guys, a bunch of fools with access to computers are sinking the whole thing. It's a pity, but that seems to be the reality.

Think about it, fools, before you post another line like, oh let's say "Middle Island Hose Monsters" or something and maybe, just maybe, get a life instead.

You're totally correct. We have nothing to fear but ourselves. We complain and bitch when outsiders bash us then we come on here and shred each other page by page, word by word. We lie, trash, malaign, slander, defame...

Then we we are a thing of the past we'll shout oh people had it out for us.

We are our own worst enemies.

Learn the facts
08-12-2008, 05:26 AM
I understand the in East Meadow, the District Commissioners do not allow any
part of the meeting devoted to community participation. That means in
East Meadow you can't ask any questions to the Commissioners about its operations it seems to be a sacred cow and they do what they want.
I agree Election Day, December 9th, 2008, the should throw out Chairman
Carey Welt into the street where he belongs. I also understand that other
district have community participation during the meetings and any taxpayer
can ask questions. This is not the case in East Meadow Fire District.

the strongest waepon you can have is intelligence. First thing remember that BOFC meetings are by law Meetings held in Public, not Public Meetings. The BOFC decides who speaks at the former, bring up a resolution to have Public Meetings seperate from the regular ones once a quarter. Or submit letters which they must address as communications in an open meeting.

UnregisteredYES
08-13-2008, 11:29 AM
Yes

Unregisteredno
08-14-2008, 02:34 PM
no

UnregisteredYES
08-14-2008, 05:59 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unregistered????
08-15-2008, 08:23 PM
????

Unregistered???
08-18-2008, 02:48 AM
Yes

Unregistereddoubtful
08-19-2008, 07:25 PM
Said Forrest Gump