Bush may get Dean elected

[no amnesty]

How can he do that? By granting an adjustment of status(amnesty) to illegal aliens.

[Tancredo]

Yeah but be careful because Dean may support granting amnesty as well. Best bet is to write in Tancredo in 2004!!!

[no amnesty]

Bush promised to enforce immigration law. That is why I voted for him. When you betray your constituents they don't care if the other guy is worse, they only see PAYBACK on election day. Why do you think Congressman Bishop got elected? Besides, a democrat would NEVER get a amnesty through a republican house or senate.

[Justice777]

I agree with some of the others in the forum who have asked...????Why isn't illegal aliens/immigration/amnesty an issue in this presidential election.??????? I guess 9/11 didn't have a big enough impact on this country. Open border policy means open borders to Terrorists too. What happened to our national Defense?/Homeland security??? Is this just paying lip service and no action? Where is the outrage that Americans should be having post 9/11? What will it take to bring this issue to the publics notice? This should be the most important topic and issue that the politicians discuss at the moment.. Why are we not keeping our country more secure in this time of war. If I'm not mistaken we still have a war on terror don't we?
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[mcj]

Politically Correct government officials on both sides of the political spectrum have made it nearly impossible to criticize thr government. It may have to be an other horrendous terrorist attack before most citizens and government people in power finally get it. How sad.
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[R Rocker]

Quote:Yeah but be careful because Dean may support granting amnesty as well. Best bet is to write in Tancredo in 2004!!!

Dean is very conservative, actually, and much more conservative than Bush; unlike Bush he won't be a nation builder, he won't open the border and grant amnesty to all the illegals, and he won't be a compulsive borrow-and-spend president like George Junior.

[Reality]

If you think Dean will not cave in to the Latino community as much or more than Bush has. Has Dean even addressed the issue yet? I don't think so.

[Wait a Minute]

Don't tell me about Dean or anyone else. I did not vote for Dean in 2000, I voted for Bush and he has betrayed law-abiding Americans and now I will vote for whoever the democrat is in 2004. Call it whatever you want.

[Reality]

Vote for whoever you want. I'm not sure GW will get my vote again ther. But I won't vote for a Democrat out of spite. I'm not ready to give up. This is not a done deal....YET. Right now I'm writing to my Congressman as well as the White House to express my outrage with what Bush is proposing. Perhaps if enough Americans do so he will rethink his ideas. This is a bi-partisan issue. Every U.S. citizen and worker needs to understand that they will be hurt by this policy. Low income workers with families will lose thr jobs to immigrants. Who is going to support them? Wages will remain low with no opportunity for raises. People will be laid off in favor of someone willing to work for less money and/or benefits. This policy will break trade unions once and for all as immigrants become "scab workers". Decades of gains for American workers will be gone.

Again, I urge everyone...Republicans, Democrats and everyone else to write your Congressman and President Bush now. This issue affects all of us.

[jonasgop]

In protest of President Bush's plan to grant temporary legal status of illegal immigrants, American Patrol.org is leading a "NO SHOP DAY" on Monday, January 12, 2004. Since Bush thinks he can shove amnesty down our throat because we have "no other place to go (ie corrupt political parties), let's GO NO PLACE on Monday. Don't shop or go to the movies, don't buy anything at all. If enough people do this, Bush will be forced to back down.

[Reality]

It has been said that President Bush is proposing his new immigration policy in an effort to garner the Latino vote. If this is truly the case, then someone should inform him that his re-election ambitions are secondary to the security and well bng of our country. The United States will live on long after Bush is gone. The question is, will his legacy be the destruction of our economy?

[Wait a Minute]

Who do you think would have a better chance of forcing this bill through a republican congress? George Bush or Howard Dean. The congress will stay republican in 2004. I say that even if Dean wants amnesty he will never get it from a republican congress whereas George Bush can get almost anything from a republican congress. Get the point?

[Reality]

Wait a minute...You make an excellent point. But I just can't stomach Dean, he's a two faced politician with a nasty attitude to boot.

[Realist]

According to the U.S. Army War College, he's doing a pretty good job at getting anybody elected but himself:

The Washington Post

January 12, 2004, 7:45 PM EST


A scathing new report published by the U.S. Army War College broadly criticizes the Bush administration's handling of the war on terrorism, accusing it of taking a detour into an "unnecessary" war in Iraq and pursuing an "unrealistic" quest against terrorism that may lead to U.S. wars with states that pose no serious threat.

The report by Jeffrey Record, visiting professor at the Air War College at Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala., warns that as a result of those mistakes, the Army is "near the breaking point." It recommends, among other things, scaling back the scope of the "global war on terrorism" and focusing on the narrower threat posed by the al-Qaida terrorist network.

The "global war on terrorism as currently defined and waged is dangerously indiscriminate and ambitious, and accordingly ... its parameters should be readjusted," Record writes. Currently, he adds, the anti-terrorism campaign "is strategically unfocused, promises more than it can deliver, and threatens to dissipate U.S. military resources in an endless and hopeless search for absolute security."

Record, author of six books on military strategy and related issues, was an aide to former senator Sam Nunn when the Georgia Democrat was chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Record noted that in 1999, when he was on the staff of the Air War College, he published work critical of the Clinton administration.

His new essay, published by the college's Strategic Studies Institute, carries the standard disclaimer that its views are those of the author and don't necessarily represent those of the Army, the Pentagon, or the U.S. government. But retired Army Col. Douglas C. Lovelace Jr., the college's Strategic Studies Institute, whose Web site carries Record's 56-page monograph, hardly distanced himself from it. "I think that the substance that Jeff brings out in the article really, really needs to be considered," he said.

Publication was approved by the commandant, Maj. Gen. David H. Huntoon Jr., Lovelace said, noting that Huntoon "considers it to be under the umbrella of academic freedom."

Larry DiRita, the top Pentagon spokesman, said he had not read the Record study. He added: "If the conclusion is that we need to be scaling back in the global war on terrorism, it's not likely to be on my reading list anytime soon."

Many of Record's arguments, such as the contention that Saddam Hussn's Iraq was deterred from making war and did not present a threat, have been made before by critics of the administration. Iraq, he concludes, "was a war-of-choice distraction from the war of necessity against" al-Qaida. It is unusual to have such views published by the War College, the Army's premier academic institution.

Record likens the scale of U.S. ambitions in the war on terrorism to Hitler's overreach in World War II. "A cardinal rule of strategy is to keep your enemies to a manageable number," he writes. "The Germans were defeated in two world wars ... because thr strategic ends outran thr available means."

He recommends, among other things, that the United States should be prepared to settle for a "friendly autocracy" in Iraq rather than a genuine democracy.
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