Fire Code Violations in South Patchogue Bar Areas

[DarlingGirl]

Hey there, everybody. I'm new here and in search of information. I hope it's not too forward to just go ahead and jump in without lurking for a while, but I'm in a bind.

I live off River Ave (south of the railroad tracks) and have been noticing severely increased traffic over the last two weeks. Not only did I see two cats and a goose -- struck dead in the road on River and Division, but I also have been seeing unbelievable traffic, and hearing lots and lots of bikers revving their engines really late at night.

All of this is due to a new bar on Baker Place, called "The Off Key Tikki Bar and Restaurant".
So not only do we have "The Harbor Crab", "The Blue Point Brewery" and "Dublin Down" in this area, but now we have a new biker bar (and supposedly upscale dining establishment) in our midst.

Last night I heard and saw several fights break out (due to bf/gf arguments, parking and driving tiffs) and witnessed River Avenue being congested to the point that traffic stopped dead outside the Baker Place entrance to the West Bank Marina.

This area has long been a quiet refuge from the busy areas of Patchogue. The worst we ever got was a little noise from The Harbor Crab (mostly harmless music) and the occasional Blue Point Brewery band nights. Nothing to get someone angry about. It was all very civilized.

But now there are over 200 cars parked at the marina (on weekend nights)and more parked in adjacent marina parking lots, on River Ave, and they are using our little side roads as racing courses. I cannot walk or drive up my street without having to dodge some drunk pulling out of the parking lot.

I am also concerned that the overcrowding situation is getting out of control, and that someone may get hurt. Fights seem to break out nmore and more often, and this place is close to the water with no protection from falling in.
As for the noise, the bands cut off at 11pm due to the fact that a resident on my street called the police on them the first week they opened.

Who would we contact in case of a fire code violation down here? Would we call the fire dept? I have the # of the Code Compliance Officer in Patchogue Village, but he's not in on weekends.

Finally, I'd really like this area to stay sweet and tidy and quiet, although I doubt it will get better. The general feeling is that more and more people from outerlying towns will begin to hear about our little bar-hopping spot, and take advantage of it this summer to the point where we're going to get over-run and chased away. I don't want to move out, I like it here.
What can we do?

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[Unregisteredstupiddarling]

Considering your only possibility of a complaint that you mention is the potential for "over crowding". Chances are, they aren't but whatever. Really seems to me you're just pissed that you live near a busy bar in an area that once used to be nice. And like many people, you scream "fire code violations" to get someone's attention. Probably another baseless accusation.

[DarlingGirl]

Yah...thanks for nothing.

I dunno. What do you call a place that has no fire extinguishers, no emergency lights, multiple steps with no lights, paths to boat docks with no roping, and cars packed in without thought to exit access?
Two nights ago I wintessed a fight because three people tried to get out at the same time. There are no signs, no parking lanes, no traffic direction, just a dirt lot with cars jammed into it as tightly as they can park them without scratching the mirrors off. I could barely leave my house because the cars were parked right up against my door. How is that right?

I'm just asking if anyone knows the applicable laws, and who to contact. If you don't, please don't bother replying.
Thanks.

[Village CODE]

Call the Patchogue Village Code Enforcement unit and quit your complaining. Call the Brookhaven Town Fire Marshalls Office and quit your bitching.
Call the Suffolk County Fire Marshalls Office and quit your crying.
You already knew that. You just wanted to post something on here.

[Unregistered Your Welcome]

Yah...thanks for nothing.

I dunno. What do you call a place that has no fire extinguishers, no emergency lights, multiple steps with no lights, paths to boat docks with no roping, and cars packed in without thought to exit access?
Two nights ago I wintessed a fight because three people tried to get out at the same time. There are no signs, no parking lanes, no traffic direction, just a dirt lot with cars jammed into it as tightly as they can park them without scratching the mirrors off. I could barely leave my house because the cars were parked right up against my door. How is that right?

I'm just asking if anyone knows the applicable laws, and who to contact. If you don't, please don't bother replying.
Thanks.

Ah you'd call it a bar. If it's crowded you'd call it a popular bar.

Sounds like you problem is a potential for falling property values call the town or the PD.

[DarlingBOY]

Call the Patchogue Village Code Enforcement unit and quit your complaining. Call the Brookhaven Town Fire Marshalls Office and quit your bitching.
Call the Suffolk County Fire Marshalls Office and quit your crying.
You already knew that. You just wanted to post something on here.

Thank you for answering my question.
I shall of course change my sex immediately, too: for your convenience. ;)
Sheez!

For those interested:
Visit the Building Code and Housing Department @ the Baker Street Courthouse in person. According to the clerks, there is a file the size of a mountain of complaints and violations against the nightclub.

[Unregisteredpatmed12345]

You are not going to get any help from Patchogue Code Enforcement. The majority of them are off-duty Suffolk County Police officers. If you think they do nothing while working for the county, trust me, they do even less while working for Patchogue. They will however check on a call for their fellow SCPD officers and tell them to disregard over the radio, so you get even less of a response from the sector car assigned to the area.

[Unregistered1234]

if none of the other answers help, try contacting New York State Liquor Authority.

[DearDarling]

Dear Darling Girl/Boy:

My advice, do what the rest of us do:

STAY IN AT NIGHT, CRANK UP THE AC, AND CHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only 2 mos left.



Chow

[Unregistered1675]

Party on Wayne

Party on Garth

[Unregistered oh jamaica]

Hey you might want to try the place. Crowded place = good place. Been there and love it. Not a 20 year old hang out. White sands is the place for me. Try it you might like it!!!!

[Does It Ever End]

Now the Vollies are getting trashed because of the behaiour ofv a private business in a town. The local FVD has nothing to do with this what so ever, but because someone got put ofvf by other local and county agencies they make their last trahing stop the FD?

[Unregistered fd657]

Now the Vollies are getting trashed because of the behaiour ofv a private business in a town. The local FVD has nothing to do with this what so ever, but because someone got put ofvf by other local and county agencies they make their last trahing stop the FD?

we are a target now and will be until something new comes along

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[UnregisteredDRINK]

Drinking?

[UnregisteredDWI]

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Violation?

[Unregisteredfirefighter]

You are not going to get any help from Patchogue Code Enforcement. The majority of them are off-duty Suffolk County Police officers. If you think they do nothing while working for the county, trust me, they do even less while working for Patchogue. They will however check on a call for their fellow SCPD officers and tell them to disregard over the radio, so you get even less of a response from the sector car assigned to the area.


For your information.... There is not a single Patchogue code enforcement officer
that is an off-duty Suffolk cop. I don't know where you get your info from...but you better check your facts before shooting your mouth off with bullshit.

Bellport Village on the other hand does have 1 or 2 code guys that are suffolk cops.

[Unregisteredfirefighter]

For your information.... There is not a single Patchogue code enforcement officer
that is an off-duty Suffolk cop. I don't know where you get your info from...but you better check your facts before shooting your mouth off with bullshit.

Bellport Village on the other hand does have 1 or 2 code guys that are suffolk cops.

There are 7 code officers that are retired New York City cops.

[Anothercounty]

Everyone screams fire violations. Yours sounds innitally like zoning. Building departments post maximum occupancies and among other things determine the ammount of exits. Maximum occupancy is also a function of available parking, Unless the building is preexisting nonconforming. Foil the building permit. You talk about emergency lighting and other things, sounds like you've been in the building. You've havent seen any? Maybe they have battery packs in recessed flourescent fixtures. Unless you look directly at the fixture and know what you're looking for you wont know Exit signs don't have to be luminous, just illuminated ect. Has the been a yearly test of the emergency lighting in conformance with the State Cose? Foil the info from the local CEO. SLA hearings are done when law enforcement refers complaints to them. Overcrowding? Does SCPD do licensed premis checks? Call the precinct commander. Just remember, You can't ledgislate out stupidity. Wish you luck, but.....

[Unregistered40]

Another county, Sure sounds like you might be a fire marshal, go and check the place out!!

If it is the village of patchogue, you can bet that it most likely wasn't correctly inspected. Look at the retards that run the village.

Instead of fixing a problem and putting legislation together to empower their code officers to be law enforcement, the brilliant idea is to shoot the whole department in the foot (no pun intended) and provide less service, less protection for the residents of the village.

Intelligence everywhere.....

[Anothercounty]

Boy, you're so smart your stupid. Just because someone tries to impart some understanding into a situation you make some big assumptions. The biggest problem in these times is that people have way to much time on their hands. Remember, Let he or she who is without sin cast the first stone. Trust me, NO ONE in these times is without sin!

[Unregistered40]

Anothercounty:

Congratulations, What you said make no sense, unless you are a elected village official of pathogue.


The place is a mess, and it seems the mayor is largely to blame. No bullshit or stone throwing about that.

I am in no way a resident or even remotely live near patchogue.

[Unregisteredboohoo]

wah I bought a house near a bar and it used to be dead and now its busy wah

[Anothercounty]

I to do not live near Patchogue, infact i'd have to get out my Suffolk Hagstroms to locate it! You don't live near Patchogue and know the mayor is corrupt!!! Are you him??? Is the area in question part of an Incorporated Village? Then it has a mayor. If outside of village limits then it is an unincorporated area and is govorned by a town and has a town supervisor NO MAYOR! Elementary school civics. And I was right, you do have to much time on your hands. Take some adult ed courses, enroll in a few college courses and gain some knowlege. Back to the original poster, The house was probally a good deal, quiet street ect but with commercial property down the street. Someone has now developed the commercial property to its fullest. You gambeled and lost. Now you clamor to close the property. Probally not going to happen. Remember that half dead snake you picked up off the road and nursed back to health is still a SNAKE! Good BY

[Wlid & Crazy guyyy....]

I like that bar....lotta MILFS and Cougars to pick and choose from! Hahaha!!! Yummy....

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And don't forget the other 2,630 innocent victims of this cowardly act. May they, their families and friends find peace.

[The-Chaos]

For your information.... There is not a single Patchogue code enforcement officer
that is an off-duty Suffolk cop. I don't know where you get your info from...but you better check your facts before shooting your mouth off with bullshit.

Bellport Village on the other hand does have 1 or 2 code guys that are suffolk cops.


Hmm Maby your tag shoulda been Unregistered SCPD if your a FF How Do you or WHY do you care if there is infact off Duty SCPD Officers? They Still Do NOTHING all they do is complain about pay, there the only police Dept i know that thinks there firemen also....have you ever went To a worker with that one FIRECOP? go in There and cut that roof And take That window and stretch the line there....so yea...SCPD stick to neighborhood Watch..and Lady good luck with That new bar...That Really does suck, hey maby you'll get lucky and a Drunk dumbass biker will light the bar up and booYAH no more bar....other then that..suck it up...why would you care? i bet your one of those who pay the town massive ammounts of money to have a mini say in your community...get a Life MABY you should go in that bar And PARTY and you wont mind it being there.... :)

[FM LI]

Contrary to what you have heard, Bellport Village's part-time code officals are Town of Brookhaven Building Inspectors with no Firefighting experience. I dont understand why they would employ a Building Inspector/Fire Marshal. What color do you think a building inspectors (non firefighter)crap will be when they find themseleves being a liazon for the FD during an incident. A Fire Marshal should be a Firefighter as there is a countless number of hours of training involved to be a Firefighter over the extra 63 hours of NYS codes (9d-9f). Any idiot can refer to a code book for guidance, but it takes someone with a broad knowledge of fire behavior and investigation to be a Fire Marshal.
Building Inspectors are Building inspectors, Fire Marshals are both.

[flappybird11]

look i live in patchogue too, theres many problems here. between robberys, murders and all that crap i dont want to be there anymore.

[VillageCode]

CALL VILLAGE CODE...or if anything call the POLICE! The 5th PCT. is only on Waverly avenue!

[Unregistered tikki fan]

The place is beautiful, the staff is pleasant and the owners are trying to everything they can to accommodate the patrons as well as the local residents.

If you are worried about code and took the time to do a little research you would know that due to the scrutiny they have been under they are sure to have all their ducks in a row with requirements of not only the Village but the state, and those that aren't complete they are working on. But you're not actually worried about code, you genuinely just want an outlet to complain in. If you're THAT close to the bar, MOVE. But I assure you, unless you hit rural desolate Long Island you will always encounter noise (Oh My, the horror!)

As for it being a Biker Bar? Have you been to Taras? Maples? Those are Biker bars, you sound like a sheltered and ignorant fool. A few bikes a night does not a biker bar make. Maybe you should direct your anger about the poor dead animals the any motorist driving down that block, but no, you can't do that because you haven't polled every person living on the block, hosting a party, or simply driving a little to fast-- who hasn't hit a squirril at some point in their lives? It's sad, but it happens and you certainly can't target a specific bar.

Get a Grip, the place is nice and truly has enhanced the River Front as well we business for Patchogue.

[Unregisteredidiot]

Contrary to what you have heard, Bellport Village's part-time code officals are Town of Brookhaven Building Inspectors with no Firefighting experience. I dont understand why they would employ a Building Inspector/Fire Marshal. What color do you think a building inspectors (non firefighter)crap will be when they find themseleves being a liazon for the FD during an incident. A Fire Marshal should be a Firefighter as there is a countless number of hours of training involved to be a Firefighter over the extra 63 hours of NYS codes (9d-9f). Any idiot can refer to a code book for guidance, but it takes someone with a broad knowledge of fire behavior and investigation to be a Fire Marshal.
Building Inspectors are Building inspectors, Fire Marshals are both.

Your just a total asswhole, a fire marshal does not need to be a firefighter. Fire Marshal has all the schooling he or she needs to do the job and is constantly attending school. A fire fighter takes their f/f courses and then just waits around for a fire...... daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
sounds like a jealous f/f wants to be a fire marshal to me.. take the test asswhole.

[232345]

Your just a total asswhole, a fire marshal does not need to be a firefighter. Fire Marshal has all the schooling he or she needs to do the job and is constantly attending school. A fire fighter takes their f/f courses and then just waits around for a fire...... daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
sounds like a jealous f/f wants to be a fire marshal to me.. take the test asswhole.

You had to go way back for this one, but I think you need to go back to school for your spelling? Then take the test !

[FMLI]

Your just a total asswhole, a fire marshal does not need to be a firefighter. Fire Marshal has all the schooling he or she needs to do the job and is constantly attending school. A fire fighter takes their f/f courses and then just waits around for a fire...... daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
sounds like a jealous f/f wants to be a fire marshal to me.. take the test asswhole.
If you read the first sentence properly or further clarification, the village hired a TOB building inspector to perform building inspections and "act" as a fire mashal when a situation came about. I agree there are no in-service class's for FF. So what makes a TOB building inspector a fire fighter/marshal and be the direct liazon in the even of a haz mat or arson situation when they have no idea or chain of command to follow?

[FMLI]

If you read the first sentence properly or further clarification, the village hired a TOB building inspector to perform building inspections and "act" as a fire mashal when a situation came about. I agree there are no in-service class's for FF. So what makes a TOB building inspector a fire fighter/marshal and be the direct liazon in the even of a haz mat or arson situation when they have no idea or chain of command to follow?

Also as per cival service a fire marshal needs 5 years of fire fighting service

[respect101]

You Guys Are Great True Brother Hood

[Unregisteredamused]

wah I bought a house near a bar and it used to be dead and now its busy wah

Still can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. There is a seat for every ass. WBM Tiki Bar claims to have 16 seats but manages to get 500 asses a night.

[Unregisteredamused]

Still can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. There is a seat for every ass. WBM Tiki Bar claims to have 16 seats but manages to get 500 asses a night.
Ha Ha

[UnregisteredRealist]

Anybody living next to a popular bar area is subject to these inconveniences. It's like buying a house next to an airport, then complaining about the noise. Nothing is going to be done. Buy a noise maker for your home to drown-out the neighbors.

Sadly, nobody is interested in the goose or cat either. With summer coming, it will get worse before it gets better. This was polite, nobody really cares.

[Unregisteredplokchopper]

Hey there, everybody. I'm new here and in search of information. I hope it's not too forward to just go ahead and jump in without lurking for a while, but I'm in a bind.

I live off River Ave (south of the railroad tracks) and have been noticing severely increased traffic over the last two weeks. Not only did I see two cats and a goose -- struck dead in the road on River and Division, but I also have been seeing unbelievable traffic, and hearing lots and lots of bikers revving their engines really late at night.

All of this is due to a new bar on Baker Place, called "The Off Key Tikki Bar and Restaurant".
So not only do we have "The Harbor Crab", "The Blue Point Brewery" and "Dublin Down" in this area, but now we have a new biker bar (and supposedly upscale dining establishment) in our midst.

Last night I heard and saw several fights break out (due to bf/gf arguments, parking and driving tiffs) and witnessed River Avenue being congested to the point that traffic stopped dead outside the Baker Place entrance to the West Bank Marina.

This area has long been a quiet refuge from the busy areas of Patchogue. The worst we ever got was a little noise from The Harbor Crab (mostly harmless music) and the occasional Blue Point Brewery band nights. Nothing to get someone angry about. It was all very civilized.

But now there are over 200 cars parked at the marina (on weekend nights)and more parked in adjacent marina parking lots, on River Ave, and they are using our little side roads as racing courses. I cannot walk or drive up my street without having to dodge some drunk pulling out of the parking lot.

I am also concerned that the overcrowding situation is getting out of control, and that someone may get hurt. Fights seem to break out nmore and more often, and this place is close to the water with no protection from falling in.
As for the noise, the bands cut off at 11pm due to the fact that a resident on my street called the police on them the first week they opened.

Who would we contact in case of a fire code violation down here? Would we call the fire dept? I have the # of the Code Compliance Officer in Patchogue Village, but he's not in on weekends.

Finally, I'd really like this area to stay sweet and tidy and quiet, although I doubt it will get better. The general feeling is that more and more people from outerlying towns will begin to hear about our little bar-hopping spot, and take advantage of it this summer to the point where we're going to get over-run and chased away. I don't want to move out, I like it here.
What can we do?

Is this a real problem? I really don't see it in this poor economy.