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Stevies mommy
06-13-2008, 11:00 AM
Transfers are out.
This has to stop
Unregistered Taxpayer 911
06-13-2008, 11:09 AM
Transfers are out.
This has to stop
WHY? For once we have a County Executive with a pair of balls who is putting the PBA's feet to the fire, instead of always having to back up and give you big cry babys whatever you want to keep you happy.
GO STEVEY !
taxpayergetsripoff
06-13-2008, 12:11 PM
WHY? For once we have a County Executive with a pair of balls who is putting the PBA's feet to the fire, instead of always having to back up and give you big cry babys whatever you want to keep you happy.
GO STEVEY !
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Who exactly is this helping? When you or yours gets into a accident on the lie and you have to wait for the same exact cop from the same exact dept but with a sector car # instead of a highway patrol number, and he has to come from off the LIE, instead of from a exit or two away?
What did levy do? Scpd is still gonna cover highway, but just not be assigned to patrol it.
Stupid azz
no mo 911 4 495
06-13-2008, 01:15 PM
WHY? For once we have a County Executive with a pair of balls who is putting the PBA's feet to the fire, instead of always having to back up and give you big cry babys whatever you want to keep you happy.
GO STEVEY !
Let me ask you, taking highway cops and putting them into patrol, and not replacing them on the highway,( no patrol function, no troopers)is putting whose feet to the fire?
Balls? After the 1st week of accidents, racing contests, and lord knows what else....you'll be calling it something else.
Instead of applauding Levy, I'd be asking who exactly is going to be on the Lie/Sunrise 24/7 because it aint scpd, or troopers, or olive oil for that matter.
Suffolk Pig
06-13-2008, 07:04 PM
PBA has taken legal action and halted transfers till the 19th. The legal case is based on the method used to select the officers to be transfered. This won't stop the county from closing Highway but it might make them comply with the contract. To those who will be glad when Highway Patrol is a footnote in Suffolk County history, remember SCHPB officers are not losing thr jobs, seniority, vacation or benefits. Just moving on to new assignments.
and..
06-13-2008, 11:29 PM
PBA has taken legal action and halted transfers till the 19th. The legal case is based on the method used to select the officers to be transfered. This won't stop the county from closing Highway but it might make them comply with the contract. To those who will be glad when Highway Patrol is a footnote in Suffolk County history, remember SCHPB officers are not losing thr jobs, seniority, vacation or benefits. Just moving on to new assignments.
And whining about it incessantly like little schoolgirls.
toodler
06-14-2008, 12:13 AM
And whining about it incessantly like little schoolgirls.Oh its nothing compared to the whining we'll hear after scpd is finally rid of the patrol function on that forsaken road. Enjoy your 2 hour wait for your accidents on your way to work
Unregisteredx
06-14-2008, 08:07 AM
Transfers were recinded for now, they even fu.... that up.
898989
06-14-2008, 11:10 AM
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Who exactly is this helping? When you or yours gets into a accident on the lie and you have to wait for the same exact cop from the same exact dept but with a sector car # instead of a highway patrol number, and he has to come from off the LIE, instead of from a exit or two away?
What did levy do? Scpd is still gonna cover highway, but just not be assigned to patrol it.
Stupid azz
Stop the bs. The pba could give a rats ass about the public safety. There protecting thr turf and nothing else and using the issue of public safety as a ruse to fight levy tooth and nail until he stops playing hardball and falls into line like the other c.e.'s. You've had your way with lucrative contracts in the past and finally a ce with a little balls is trying to make you a little more productive and at the same time trying to save the taxpayer money. Its that simple, so why doesn't the pba act like the professionals they like the public to think of them as and move on.
bs what bs
06-14-2008, 01:07 PM
Stop the bs. The pba could give a rats ass about the public safety. There protecting thr turf and nothing else and using the issue of public safety as a ruse to fight levy tooth and nail until he stops playing hardball and falls into line like the other c.e.'s. You've had your way with lucrative contracts in the past and finally a ce with a little balls is trying to make you a little more productive and at the same time trying to save the taxpayer money. Its that simple, so why doesn't the pba act like the professionals they like the public to think of them as and move on.
A little more productive??? By taking away responsiblity and adding to the patrol base number? More cops less area to cover = more productive?
So it is a ruse when all of scpd is off patrol on the LIE/Sunrise, and have to respond from sectors for 911 dispatched calls? What ruse is that?
What money is bng saved? Do you even understand what is going on? Levy is still paying for the higway cops but now they are patrol cops, but he also wanted to pay for state troopers to patrol the roads highway did, 6 million of your dollars....where is the savings?
You could give a rats ass about the issues, you see someone you think is messing with the pd, no doubt a fave punching bag that never seems to take a clear hit, and you jump on the bandwagon.
Enjoy your drive on the lie, enjoy not seng scpd anywhere on it, and enjoy levys bandwagon.
Unregisteredxvffe
06-14-2008, 01:32 PM
This is a waste. You dont get no matter what levy actually does, as long as he says he is doing it to scpd, every bar room politician is going to say its golden.
They are going to post here and tell you how Levy is putting us to task etc etc....how hes saving money by paying troopers, state employees county taxpayers money. That by removing work.....the patrol responsibility of the lie and placing those cops elsewhere,increasing the number of cops in a area(more cops less work per cop) he is going to make us work harder.
Things like logic or common sense dont matter. All that matters is the appearance of levy messing with scpd.
All I know is my family has the direct number to the pct dispatchers, and can get a police car to respond far quicker to them, if they were on the lie, then by calling 911...can you say the same??
Unregisteredsafdew
06-14-2008, 01:33 PM
. You've had your way with lucrative contracts in the past and finally a ce with a little balls
Pardon me did you really say levy is a ce with a little balls>>>>>>>>>>>>lol
truth/myth
06-15-2008, 08:31 AM
Stop the bs. The pba could give a rats ass about the public safety. There protecting thr turf and nothing else and using the issue of public safety as a ruse to fight levy tooth and nail until he stops playing hardball and falls into line like the other c.e.'s. You've had your way with lucrative contracts in the past and finally a ce with a little balls is trying to make you a little more productive and at the same time trying to save the taxpayer money. Its that simple, so why doesn't the pba act like the professionals they like the public to think of them as and move on.
The pba is doing thr job, and trying to protect thr members, and the public. The pba would go to bat for a cop who is charged criminally, so why wouldnt they attempt to stop a future nightmare for scpd. What will happen down the road, scpd patrol will be handling dispatched calls on the roads scpd highway used to patrol. When the response time triples or when every idiot thinks because there is no patrol cars on the lie, the minimum speed is 90 who do you think you are going to blame? levy or us?
Highway used to be a elite unit that only took the best, well over the past 10 years, it became a punishment, people are now forced to go to it when they are short. It isnt the 1st unit dissolved and it wont be the last.
Levy plans on moving 15 cops every couple months to gradually lessen the
# of cops. Well in that year its going to take, the 60 or so highway guys will be replacing the 100+ cops that retire. Thats still in the red. More cops retired then hired. You can point to the 50 or so recruits coming out this month, but they dont replace last years retirements. Or the year before.
you talk about balls, how about brains? Levy is willing to pay the state troopers your tax money, a total of 10 million over a few years to bribe them to do a job. Well that seems to have fallen through, so the new plan to to take county cops off the road. But who is responding to the 911 calls on the road? Its still the county.
You claim the pba is backing highway not for safety, but because they are protecting turf. Levy is taking away Highway patrol, not highway dispatched 911 calls from patrol. He is volunteering to pay state employees suffolk taxpayers dollars to provide additional police services. And nothing levy is doing will help him in the ongoing contract talks, in fact it will HURT him, that he has millions of dollars to throw at outside police agencies.
Anyone with a brain can see that nther of those are in the best interest of the public, yet 1000s of taxpayers are running around howling at the moon and praising levy for the huge blow dealt scpd. Are you backing levy or opposing scpd just because its scpd?
Unregisteredsklsjl
06-15-2008, 11:58 AM
THe Sheriffs will be on the Hwy's before the end of the summer. It is a done deal.
super vinny
06-15-2008, 12:07 PM
THe Sheriffs will be on the Hwy's before the end of the summer. It is a done deal.
All one of the sheriffs? How will vinny do it???
get the fuck outta here moron!!
Unregisteredpmi
06-15-2008, 03:56 PM
All one of the sheriffs? How will vinny do it???
get the fuck outta here moron!!;lol...cmon if the troll knew what he was talking about it wouldnt be so funny
898989
06-15-2008, 04:24 PM
[QUOTE=truth/myth;209347]The pba is doing thr job, and trying to protect thr members, and the public. The pba would go to bat for a cop who is charged criminally, so why wouldnt they attempt to stop a future nightmare for scpd. What will happen down the road, scpd patrol will be handling dispatched calls on the roads scpd highway used to patrol. When the response time triples or when every idiot thinks because there is no patrol cars on the lie, the minimum speed is 90 who do you think you are going to blame? levy or us?
Highway used to be a elite unit that only took the best, well over the past 10 years, it became a punishment, people are now forced to go to it when they are short. It isnt the 1st unit dissolved and it wont be the last.
Levy plans on moving 15 cops every couple months to gradually lessen the
# of cops. Well in that year its going to take, the 60 or so highway guys will be replacing the 100+ cops that retire. Thats still in the red. More cops retired then hired. You can point to the 50 or so recruits coming out this month, but they dont replace last years retirements. Or the year before.
you talk about balls, how about brains? Levy is willing to pay the state troopers your tax money, a total of 10 million over a few years to bribe them to do a job. Well that seems to have fallen through, so the new plan to to take county cops off the road. But who is responding to the 911 calls on the road? Its still the county.
You claim the pba is backing highway not for safety, but because they are protecting turf. Levy is taking away Highway patrol, not highway dispatched 911 calls from patrol. He is volunteering to pay state employees suffolk taxpayers dollars to provide additional police services. And nothing levy is doing will help him in the ongoing contract talks, in fact it will HURT him, that he has millions of dollars to throw at outside police agencies.
Anyone with a brain can see that nther of those are in the best interest of the public, yet 1000s of taxpayers are running around howling at the moon and praising levy for the huge blow dealt scpd. Are you backing levy or opposing scpd just because its scpd?[/QUOTE
I don't see any nightmares happening here, except whats in your own mind. It sounds more of the same pba rhetoric. I can see the pba protesting the transfers but not to the degree they are taking this issue. You don't like Levy because he has tried to make the cops more productive and save the taxpayer a little money which is part of his job. If he was jeopardizing police lives then I can see a fight, but this is just busting his balls for doing what he was elected to do. There is not a county cop on LI who can say that the taxpayer hasn't dug deep into his pocket to provide a benefits package that is arguably the highest in the nation. But yet you want more money, Not because you earn it, or because you deserve it, but just because you can. And thats the underlying current in this whole dispute. If Levy had given in to the pba in contract talks, this would be a blip on the radar screen and nothing more.
You are presuming that the state will not provide adequate coverage. I say they will, maybe not at first, but long term there will be adequate coverage just as in the other areas that the state patrols. No nightmares in the hamptons or idiots believing the speed limlt is 90. If you were less hysterical and self serving in your predictions, you would see that this is a positive situation for everyone. More cops on patrol in the precincts and more cops(troopers) on patrol in Suffolk county. But unfortunately, Levy and the public are not dealing with professional people, but money hungry cops who want more.
Unregisteredhoopla
06-15-2008, 05:25 PM
I don't see any nightmares happening here, except whats in your own mind. It sounds more of the same pba rhetoric. I can see the pba protesting the transfers but not to the degree they are taking this issue. You don't like Levy because he has tried to make the cops more productive and save the taxpayer a little money which is part of his job. If he was jeopardizing police lives then I can see a fight, but this is just busting his balls for doing what he was elected to do. There is not a county cop on LI who can say that the taxpayer hasn't dug deep into his pocket to provide a benefits package that is arguably the highest in the nation. But yet you want more money, Not because you earn it, or because you deserve it, but just because you can. And thats the underlying current in this whole dispute. If Levy had given in to the pba in contract talks, this would be a blip on the radar screen and nothing more.
You are presuming that the state will not provide adequate coverage. I say they will, maybe not at first, but long term there will be adequate coverage just as in the other areas that the state patrols. No nightmares in the hamptons or idiots believing the speed limlt is 90. If you were less hysterical and self serving in your predictions, you would see that this is a positive situation for everyone. More cops on patrol in the precincts and more cops(troopers) on patrol in Suffolk county. But unfortunately, Levy and the public are not dealing with professional people, but money hungry cops who want more.
Money, its has nothing to do with money....Do you think if the state takes over your gonna get a rebate or even a tax break? The cops getting transfered will still make the same pay and the union gets no financial benefit from it what so ever. It's about moving cops off the lie and leaving it unpatrolled. The state already stated they dont have the resources to do it so the C.E. decided to slowly abandoned the LIE. That creates quite a risk to the public don't you think? If they state came in and fazed scpd out fine but thats not happening, the LIE will soon have no one or only one patrolling it. I assume the cops would come if there was a 911 call but that would be only after the accident happened. No enforcement of any type would be performed on the LIE. So yes people will speed, drive like nuts, and have accidents as a result. So after the first person dies you can bet thr gonna sue the county for leaving the LIE unpatrolled and yes thats where your tax money will come in, the huge pay out to the family of the dead person. As far as the scpd's contract there is no effect on it with regards to having highway or not. Thats just the C.E. diverting attention away from the issue at hand, not providing adequate police coverage of the LIE to protect the public.
NOHIGHWAY PATROL
06-15-2008, 05:57 PM
[QUOTE=truth/myth;209347]The pba is doing thr job, and trying to protect thr members, and the public. The pba would go to bat for a cop who is charged criminally, so why wouldnt they attempt to stop a future nightmare for scpd. What will happen down the road, scpd patrol will be handling dispatched calls on the roads scpd highway used to patrol. When the response time triples or when every idiot thinks because there is no patrol cars on the lie, the minimum speed is 90 who do you think you are going to blame? levy or us?
Highway used to be a elite unit that only took the best, well over the past 10 years, it became a punishment, people are now forced to go to it when they are short. It isnt the 1st unit dissolved and it wont be the last.
Levy plans on moving 15 cops every couple months to gradually lessen the
# of cops. Well in that year its going to take, the 60 or so highway guys will be replacing the 100+ cops that retire. Thats still in the red. More cops retired then hired. You can point to the 50 or so recruits coming out this month, but they dont replace last years retirements. Or the year before.
you talk about balls, how about brains? Levy is willing to pay the state troopers your tax money, a total of 10 million over a few years to bribe them to do a job. Well that seems to have fallen through, so the new plan to to take county cops off the road. But who is responding to the 911 calls on the road? Its still the county.
You claim the pba is backing highway not for safety, but because they are protecting turf. Levy is taking away Highway patrol, not highway dispatched 911 calls from patrol. He is volunteering to pay state employees suffolk taxpayers dollars to provide additional police services. And nothing levy is doing will help him in the ongoing contract talks, in fact it will HURT him, that he has millions of dollars to throw at outside police agencies.
Anyone with a brain can see that nther of those are in the best interest of the public, yet 1000s of taxpayers are running around howling at the moon and praising levy for the huge blow dealt scpd. Are you backing levy or opposing scpd just because its scpd?[/QUOTE
I don't see any nightmares happening here, except whats in your own mind. It sounds more of the same pba rhetoric. I can see the pba protesting the transfers but not to the degree they are taking this issue. You don't like Levy because he has tried to make the cops more productive and save the taxpayer a little money which is part of his job. If he was jeopardizing police lives then I can see a fight, but this is just busting his balls for doing what he was elected to do. There is not a county cop on LI who can say that the taxpayer hasn't dug deep into his pocket to provide a benefits package that is arguably the highest in the nation. But yet you want more money, Not because you earn it, or because you deserve it, but just because you can. And thats the underlying current in this whole dispute. If Levy had given in to the pba in contract talks, this would be a blip on the radar screen and nothing more.
You are presuming that the state will not provide adequate coverage. I say they will, maybe not at first, but long term there will be adequate coverage just as in the other areas that the state patrols. No nightmares in the hamptons or idiots believing the speed limlt is 90. If you were less hysterical and self serving in your predictions, you would see that this is a positive situation for everyone. More cops on patrol in the precincts and more cops(troopers) on patrol in Suffolk county. But unfortunately, Levy and the public are not dealing with professional people, but money hungry cops who want more.
What part of this dont you understand? The deal is off, there is no troopers, but Levy is STILL pulling cops off the higways. The state isnt providing adequate coverage, they are providing NO coverage. Nther will scpd, until there is a accident. Then you'll get a car to write it.
You just want to bash and bash and you do not have a clue whats going on.
The police are not bng put at jeopardy...YOU AND YOURS ARE...DUMMY
How is Levy making the cops more productive? Where is Levty saving money? The 10 mill he wanted to give thre troopers before the deal fell apart?
Do you even understand whats bng discussed????????????
pulheez read
06-15-2008, 06:01 PM
Money, its has nothing to do with money....Do you think if the state takes over your gonna get a rebate or even a tax break? The cops getting transfered will still make the same pay and the union gets no financial benefit from it what so ever. It's about moving cops off the lie and leaving it unpatrolled. The state already stated they dont have the resources to do it so the C.E. decided to slowly abandoned the LIE. That creates quite a risk to the public don't you think? If they state came in and fazed scpd out fine but thats not happening, the LIE will soon have no one or only one patrolling it. I assume the cops would come if there was a 911 call but that would be only after the accident happened. No enforcement of any type would be performed on the LIE. So yes people will speed, drive like nuts, and have accidents as a result. So after the first person dies you can bet thr gonna sue the county for leaving the LIE unpatrolled and yes thats where your tax money will come in, the huge pay out to the family of the dead person. As far as the scpd's contract there is no effect on it with regards to having highway or not. Thats just the C.E. diverting attention away from the issue at hand, not providing adequate police coverage of the LIE to protect the public.
June 8, 2008
Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy said that the so-called deal to have state troopers take over patrols on the Long Island Expressway and Sunrise Highway is on the verge of falling apart.
"It doesn't look very good," Levy said.
"It appears the state is backing out of its commitment," he said, adding it "doesn't have the stomach to go through with the deal."
The more circumspect Michael Balboni, Gov. David A. Paterson's deputy secretary for public safety, said, "Discussions are continuing." But, he added, "At the end of the day, what everyone wants is what is best for the public safety of county residents."
Between those two statements is a growing chasm of impatience, anger and brinkmanship on both sides.
And if no deal is struck by tomorrow, Levy said he is ready to rnstate orders to remove 25 percent of the county highway patrol force from the roads in the next two weeks, followed by another 25 percent every three months thereafter.
Only six weeks ago, it was Levy's draconian May 1 threat that prompted he and Balboni to appear together in a last-minute news conference on the edge of the expressway, where they announced a tentative agreement with no details. They promised a final deal in two weeks.
Long past that deadline, an impatient Levy made his dire assessment Friday after a blowup Wednesday with Bruce Gyory, a top Paterson aide. Levy said the state rejected his offer to pay $5.4 million over three years as a "showing of good faith" in return for the state's takeover. Late Friday, Levy said he sweetened his offer, volunteering to pay the $5.4 million up front.
But other sources knowledgeable about the talks say Levy is making a lowball offer. They maintain that the county executive, going back to a letter last February, offered to help pay for the transition by funding 75 percent of trooper salaries in the first year, 50 percent in the second year and 25 percent in the third year. State officials estimate that the three-year cost is about $8 million, the sources said.
But even that would save the county money because Suffolk is now paying $12 million a year for its highway patrol, with officers earning $96,000 a year compared with troopers, who make $76,000. By reassigning highway officers, Suffolk could also avoid a new cop class next year.
Levy said his offer is to pay for 75 percent of the cost of 15 troopers starting sometime this summer through next April. When the next class of troopers graduates, the county would pay for 75 percent of the salary for 60 of the new and less costly recruits in 2009, 50 percent in 2010 and 25 percent in 2011.
"We shouldn't have to pay one dime," said Levy, noting that the roads are the state's job. "But we are bng magnanimous. Now there's a chance the state will get nothing and still have to take over."
Although both Nassau and Suffolk launched the campaign together, Nassau Executive Thomas Suozzi has distanced himself from Levy and says he is still talking to Albany.
And Jeff Frayler, president of the Suffolk Police Benevolent Association, said that Levy is "reckless" to even threaten pulling officers off the roads. "The fact he is willing to put people at such risk just boggles the mind," he said.
Meanwhile, several officials say Suffolk District Attorney Thomas Spota has also sent a letter to Paterson aides urging the county highway patrol be kept in place. But he added the county should be paid.
Such payments are unlikely. The state faces a $5 billion fiscal gap next year, and Paterson has asked agencies for 3.35 percent in cuts.
But Levy, facing a $150 million shortfall, has problems of his own. "The state has already cut us $10 million and we just got word today of a $2.2 million reduction in day care," he said. "We need help."
read this article and understand it, and then explain anything that youve posted repeatedly has anything to do qwith the current topic, and not your own personal and biased opinion
Unregisteredsdw
06-15-2008, 07:36 PM
you can repeat over and over how levy is making us more productive( lowest stats per cop in the past 5 years) or save the taxpayers money....while charging you for 2300 cops only recving 1700. Its all your stupid agenda.
how is taking away a detail and placing those cops into patrol more productive? Explain that?
right now levy is taking cops off highway and not replacing them, not with troopers or anyone else. That certainly is a officer safety issue...and a public safety issue.Right now levy is bargaining with your taxes to pay state troopers salaries..where is the savings?
you dont like us, and you think we are sweating because 50 cops are bng reassigned. You arent reading whats bng written, or you'd have a concern. Levy is removing scpd from highway, and there is currently no plans on replacing them.
Unregisteredkdfdsfj
06-15-2008, 07:43 PM
Levy will begin slowly replacing hwy cops with the sheriffs. It is a DONE DEAL!!!
super vinny
06-15-2008, 08:30 PM
Levy will begin slowly replacing hwy cops with the sheriffs. It is a DONE DEAL!!! all one of the "sheriffs", huh?
lol
you are great
UnregisteredVB
06-15-2008, 08:42 PM
According to Dormer, he's not decreasing patrol on the LIE, Just making the sectors bigger. Sounds like a YOGISM to me. (Yogi Berra)
Vindictive Bastard
duhduhduh
06-15-2008, 09:15 PM
read this article and understand it, and then explain anything that youve posted repeatedly has anything to do qwith the current topic, and not your own personal and biased opinion
Current Topic = C.E. pulling highway cops off the LIE WITHOUT having any other police agency to faze in or take over, which puts the public at a risk.
UnregisteredNOclues
06-15-2008, 10:21 PM
Current Topic = C.E. pulling highway cops off the LIE WITHOUT having any other police agency to faze in or take over, which puts the public at a risk.
ASSUMING YOU ARE A COP. Do you really think the majority of the citizens actually believe you are interested in thr well bng, and this is no more that trying to assert authority you don't have to swell up your misplaced egos.
What difference does it make where the cops are deployed? All you are asked to do is to show up for work and give them a straight 8 and do what you are told to do.
I agree 100%, taking experienced Highway cops off the LIE is dumb and reckless. As much as I would like to drive down the LIE without fear of getting pulled over, I also fear that others who would like the same will place my life in jeopardy.
If the PBA had a brain in thr head they would support the CE in this effort because any such move will be reversed the minute the first fatality can be linked to the absence of cops on the LIE.
The CE can jerk around with the incidents as much as he wants. Newsday will crucify him sooner or later. Let the man be and give him enough rope to hang himself. Nobody of reasonable intelligence wants this to happen. Not even those who recve summonses. It is an immutable fact of statistics that good enforcement = less fatalities, and there is no way around it.
The l the PBA should now do is to remain somewhat mute on this matter and not go against the plan of the CE. If it happens, it is not going to last. The upshot of it all is that when this thing plays itself out the numbers of Highway cops will increase, not be diminished.
Be content in the fact that you are one of the highest paid departments in the nation. That there is a perception by the administration now, and past that they need the support of the cops/PBA to win elections. You are now viewed by the administration as a political asset. When you make yourselves a liability, they will drive you into 'bankruptcy', and, thereby making you ineffective as a power base. You are just a false illusion by those who still believe the cops can make or break a poltician. It is a myth that needs continued cultivation to make you seem more important then you may think you are.
Levy's move is doomed to failure. Let him do it on his own and don't give him the opportunity to blame you for it. Don't make it any easier for him.
Unregisteredaa
06-16-2008, 08:21 AM
ASSUMING YOU ARE A COP. Do you really think the majority of the citizens actually believe you are interested in thr well bng, and this is no more that trying to assert authority you don't have to swell up your misplaced egos.
Whether or not a cop claims to be concerned with the welfare of the public isnt a issue. The issue is the highway is bng stripped of its patrol force. It will be more dangerous, YOU should be concerned about your well bng.
Unregisteredbbb
06-16-2008, 08:27 AM
What difference does it make where the cops are deployed? All you are asked to do is to show up for work and give them a straight 8 and do what you are told to do.
Well if I worked a sector that includes one of these highways and was suddenly answering calls on those roads, I now have a larger sector and a road that is difficult to reach, and time consuming. The most common calls are going to be accidents, speeders, intoxs, road rage. All of them are priorities that I will be forced to answer quickly.
Before the trolls start, thats not a complaint, but the people using those roads are bng shorted the patrol force they are paying for. And are simply going to have to wait longer for the bare minimum, answering 911 calls.
Unregisteredccc
06-16-2008, 08:32 AM
I agree 100%, taking experienced Highway cops off the LIE is dumb and reckless. As much as I would like to drive down the LIE without fear of getting pulled over, I also fear that others who would like the same will place my life in jeopardy.
If the PBA had a brain in thr head they would support the CE in this effort because any such move will be reversed the minute the first fatality can be linked to the absence of cops on the LIE.
The CE can jerk around with the incidents as much as he wants. Newsday will crucify him sooner or later. Let the man be and give him enough rope to hang himself. Nobody of reasonable intelligence wants this to happen. Not even those who recve summonses. It is an immutable fact of statistics that good enforcement = less fatalities, and there is no way around it.
The l the PBA should now do is to remain somewhat mute on this matter and not go against the plan of the CE. If it happens, it is not going to last. The upshot of it all is that when this thing plays itself out the numbers of Highway cops will increase, not be diminished.
Be content in the fact that you are one of the highest paid departments in the nation. That there is a perception by the administration now, and past that they need the support of the cops/PBA to win elections. You are now viewed by the administration as a political asset. When you make yourselves a liability, they will drive you into 'bankruptcy', and, thereby making you ineffective as a power base. You are just a false illusion by those who still believe the cops can make or break a poltician. It is a myth that needs continued cultivation to make you seem more important then you may think you are.
Levy's move is doomed to failure. Let him do it on his own and don't give him the opportunity to blame you for it. Don't make it any easier for him.
Are you saying we should just go with the flow? Just agree with Levys plan?
Because we are well paid?
This is the way it is. Levy's plan is wrong and dangerous. When it falls apart like you say, WE dont want to be on his side. We want to distance ourselves from a plan that puts the public at risk. Whether or not anyone believes we love the public or whatever, it is a p.r. nightmare to back a plan that takes patrol away from any area.
898989
06-16-2008, 10:15 AM
Money, its has nothing to do with money....Do you think if the state takes over your gonna get a rebate or even a tax break? The cops getting transfered will still make the same pay and the union gets no financial benefit from it what so ever. It's about moving cops off the lie and leaving it unpatrolled. The state already stated they dont have the resources to do it so the C.E. decided to slowly abandoned the LIE. That creates quite a risk to the public don't you think? If they state came in and fazed scpd out fine but thats not happening, the LIE will soon have no one or only one patrolling it. I assume the cops would come if there was a 911 call but that would be only after the accident happened. No enforcement of any type would be performed on the LIE. So yes people will speed, drive like nuts, and have accidents as a result. So after the first person dies you can bet thr gonna sue the county for leaving the LIE unpatrolled and yes thats where your tax money will come in, the huge pay out to the family of the dead person. As far as the scpd's contract there is no effect on it with regards to having highway or not. Thats just the C.E. diverting attention away from the issue at hand, not providing adequate police coverage of the LIE to protect the public.
First take a deep breath and smell the roses, second, take a prozac and relax.
You guys are depicting armageddon here, its not just going to happen. The state will come in and provide the troopers, short term there maybe some bumps(mainly caused by your resistance and lack of cooperation in implementing this policy) but eventually all will be worked out. And by this time next year nobody will care because the LIE will look like the NS and SS, Meadowbrook and Wantagh parkways where the troopers are in full control and doing a great job just as they are in the Hamptons and other areas of Suffolk.
I have no illusions that if the state takes over, I will be getting a rebate but I do know that 60 cops will be going back to patrol the pcts. where they are needed even if many of them are empty suits who don't want to do anything.(and that comes from the mouths of thr fellow cops). And you missed my original point completely. If contract talks had gone the way the pba wanted them to, this would not be an issue. Money, money and money.
Unrtueegistered
06-16-2008, 10:27 AM
What difference does it make where the cops are deployed? All you are asked to do is to show up for work and give them a straight 8 and do what you are told to do.
If the PBA had a brain in thr head they would support the CE in this effort because any such move will be reversed the minute the first fatality can be linked to the absence of cops on the LIE.
The l the PBA should now do is to remain somewhat mute on this matter and not go against the plan of the CE. If it happens, it is not going to last. The upshot of it all is that when this thing plays itself out the numbers of Highway cops will increase, not be diminished.
Levy's move is doomed to failure. Let him do it on his own and don't give him the opportunity to blame you for it. Don't make it any easier for him.
HUH???
you state we should back levy and then state let him do it on his own so he doesnt have the opportunity to blame us. If the pba backs him, we are to blame as well, if we oppose him, then we are not to blame. Wrong anyone with a brain should distance themselves from this plan. Look at Suozzi.......
What does it matter where cops are deployed? The highways in question are fast moving roadways, and have a greater chance of a significant injury then the majority of roads. You want the police prescence to deter traffic violations, and to respond quickly to such incidents. You are taking a 2-5 minute response and making it a 10+ minute response. If I worked a sector with the LIE, and was 10 minutes away, and recve a call of a 3 car mva, with a overturn, trapped etc etc etc... I'm now speeding thru my sector, placing myself and the public at risk.
Before the trolls jump all over me I'm not complaining, just stating the facts.
Whether you want to believe it or not, most of us do live within the county, and do care to some extent what happens here...if nothing else because it affects us as well. My family and friends use these roads, as do my coworkers, thr families and friends. So you want to keep saying "you guys dont care about the public" ...sure fine, whatever I'm not going to argue with you.
Unregistered5577
06-16-2008, 10:38 AM
First take a deep breath and smell the roses, second, take a prozac and relax.
You guys are depicting armageddon here, its not just going to happen. The state will come in and provide the troopers, short term there maybe some bumps(mainly caused by your resistance and lack of cooperation in implementing this policy) but eventually all will be worked out. And by this time next year nobody will care because the LIE will look like the NS and SS, Meadowbrook and Wantagh parkways where the troopers are in full control and doing a great job just as they are in the Hamptons and other areas of Suffolk.
I have no illusions that if the state takes over, I will be getting a rebate but I do know that 60 cops will be going back to patrol the pcts. where they are needed even if many of them are empty suits who don't want to do anything.(and that comes from the mouths of thr fellow cops). And you missed my original point completely. If contract talks had gone the way the pba wanted them to, this would not be an issue. Money, money and money.
A year from now, but what about in the meantime? Right now there arent any plans for the state to patrol the roads, and if the County has its way, there would be 13 less cops patrolling these roads right now. Sure the scpd will be fine. Sure there will be 60 cops going back to patrol, to fill the 235 that will have been lost within the past 3 years and not replaced (w/ estimate over 100 retirees from now to the time highway is defunct)
What about you and yours? You state you dont think we care about taxpayers, well do you not care about your family? There are aprox 6000 accidents a year on the lie, whether that number goes up or down on its own durting the transitition, can you really be as uncaring?
Do you really want to pay State troopers salaries when Levys claim was to cut our costs?
No one is depicting armageddon, just assuming things will continue as is, on the roads. But without police coverage. Levy + the state arent even talking right now. Levy is content to let scpd patrol answer the calls on highway. And you guys for the most part will be happy, thinking somehow that scpd lost, and you won.
registered
06-16-2008, 10:55 AM
There are 60 cops in the SCPD HPD; Levy says it costs $12 Million to staff the Hwy Patrol. Can it really cost $200,000 per officer???
I think the numbers are off. If not, the costs are stagering?
Unregisteredgoon
06-16-2008, 11:15 AM
There are 60 cops in the SCPD HPD; Levy says it costs $12 Million to staff the Hwy Patrol. Can it really cost $200,000 per officer???
I think the numbers are off. If not, the costs are stagering?
he didnt say staff, he said OPERATE highway, quite a difference there
Unregisteredtry
06-16-2008, 12:04 PM
A year from now, but what about in the meantime? Right now there arent any plans for the state to patrol the roads, and if the County has its way, there would be 13 less cops patrolling these roads right now. Sure the scpd will be fine. Sure there will be 60 cops going back to patrol, to fill the 235 that will have been lost within the past 3 years and not replaced (w/ estimate over 100 retirees from now to the time highway is defunct)
What about you and yours? You state you dont think we care about taxpayers, well do you not care about your family? There are aprox 6000 accidents a year on the lie, whether that number goes up or down on its own durting the transitition, can you really be as uncaring?
Do you really want to pay State troopers salaries when Levys claim was to cut our costs?
No one is depicting armageddon, just assuming things will continue as is, on the roads. But without police coverage. Levy + the state arent even talking right now. Levy is content to let scpd patrol answer the calls on highway. And you guys for the most part will be happy, thinking somehow that scpd lost, and you won.
Less is more. Less cops due to retirement. If the troopers do take over, less troopers, then scpd highway, but more costs, 8 million more dollars to have highway patrolled by the state 1/3 the number of cops. If the troopers dont take highway, less cops on the highway, more 911 calls for patrol. Like the other posts, I'm not complaining.
But think of this;
I work a sector that has the e-way running thru it. I can be as far north as rt 25 in centereach, aprox 12 miles away. For those of you who use the eway and have seen drunks or reckless drivers and called 911, after pulling over of course, assuming you call from my sector, and I'm on a call, it could take 10 minutes for me to get to the point you called from. If the person is doing 60 mph in that 10 minutes he has traveled 10 miles. If I did 120 mph(not likely) it would take me 5 minutes to reach the point he is at when I get on the eway. Now he is 5 miles from that point, and probably in Nassau. If I was to continue, at 120 in 2.5 minutes he'd be 2.5 miles ahead of me, and so on and so on. So basically if you are on the e-way and see something you feel is dangerous, call Nassau, because they still have highway, and they'll probably have a better chance of catching him, unless he crashes into someone or something .
Harry's Place
06-16-2008, 12:20 PM
THe Sheriffs will be on the Hwy's before the end of the summer. It is a done deal.
Sheriffs seem to be the biggest civil service scabs; in that, they always backstab one another and worm for other union jobs even harder. To bad none of them, including Chief Otto, could pass the SCPD exam. I guess bng half a cop is almost as good as bng a real one. Thr union sold them out. You will never see that with Jeff F. He's an ex-Marine and loves to fight.
Give Suffolk County what they want. Abandon your already stretched-out sectors and handle spin outs, disabled motorists, fuel spills, road debris, road rage incidents, and accidents on the LIE. Do it carefully and correctly while the call backup reaches 8 hour delays like it did a few years ago. Let thr system hemorrhage. Gee, someone broke into your car? That's to bad, but you don't have to call the police. Our investigators do absolutely nothing wiabout it anyway.
fun facts
06-17-2008, 10:17 AM
We need that dipshit to post how the "sheriffs" are taking over highway....its a riot.
UnregisteredPO
06-17-2008, 11:33 PM
ASSUMING YOU ARE A COP. Do you really think the majority of the citizens actually believe you are interested in thr well bng, and this is no more that trying to assert authority you don't have to swell up your misplaced egos.
What difference does it make where the cops are deployed? All you are asked to do is to show up for work and give them a straight 8 and do what you are told to do.
I agree 100%, taking experienced Highway cops off the LIE is dumb and reckless. As much as I would like to drive down the LIE without fear of getting pulled over, I also fear that others who would like the same will place my life in jeopardy.
If the PBA had a brain in thr head they would support the CE in this effort because any such move will be reversed the minute the first fatality can be linked to the absence of cops on the LIE.
The CE can jerk around with the incidents as much as he wants. Newsday will crucify him sooner or later. Let the man be and give him enough rope to hang himself. Nobody of reasonable intelligence wants this to happen. Not even those who recve summonses. It is an immutable fact of statistics that good enforcement = less fatalities, and there is no way around it.
The l the PBA should now do is to remain somewhat mute on this matter and not go against the plan of the CE. If it happens, it is not going to last. The upshot of it all is that when this thing plays itself out the numbers of Highway cops will increase, not be diminished.
Be content in the fact that you are one of the highest paid departments in the nation. That there is a perception by the administration now, and past that they need the support of the cops/PBA to win elections. You are now viewed by the administration as a political asset. When you make yourselves a liability, they will drive you into 'bankruptcy', and, thereby making you ineffective as a power base. You are just a false illusion by those who still believe the cops can make or break a poltician. It is a myth that needs continued cultivation to make you seem more important then you may think you are.
Levy's move is doomed to failure. Let him do it on his own and don't give him the opportunity to blame you for it. Don't make it any easier for him.
CORRECT!!! Let the CE go with his bold move and go forth with his plan its only gonna bite him in the end
levieslackey
06-18-2008, 07:55 AM
CORRECT!!! Let the CE go with his bold move and go forth with his plan its only gonna bite him in the end
I dont think anyone is gonna stop him, the issue here is to oppose him, and to make the public aware of the dangers he is putting them in.
Whether or not the public cares, or falls for the pba rhetoric to save jobs angle levy will use to fight the negative publicity, it is laying the ground work for a future candidate to oppose levy.
dontsupportlevy
06-18-2008, 08:42 AM
CORRECT!!! Let the CE go with his bold move and go forth with his plan its only gonna bite him in the end
Exactly, so why not condemn him and expose him publicly. Fight him tooth and nail, and put asmuch space between us and his plans as possible.
Remember the post you are quoting says to support him....support him as he takes patrol off highway. As soon as he screws up it says,as soon as the 1st fatality is linked to the absence of cops, he'll reverse it...WTF???
Why would we support him if thats the case? If we support him no one will remember levy, they'll remember the pba ...the pba wanted its cops off that road, and now someone is dead.
Who on Gods green earth would want to support a personnel move that puts lives at jeopardy? And what kind of idiot would give out advice here to the cops that it would be better if we supported levy? Why so he likes us?
Who cares? horrible advice nimwit.
what about nassau
06-18-2008, 08:55 AM
Is Nassau pulling thr hwy patrol too?
7 against thebes
06-18-2008, 09:35 AM
Is Nassau pulling thr hwy patrol too?
Not a chance, suozzi wont put the public at risk to beat the pba
undefeated
06-20-2008, 05:22 PM
Not a chance, suozzi wont put the public at risk to beat the pba
you mean try to beat the pba.
Taxpayers for LEVY
06-20-2008, 10:44 PM
Goooooooooooooooooooooo
Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeee e !!!!!!!!!
cops4levy
06-21-2008, 04:39 AM
Goooooooooooooooooooooo
Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeee e !!!!!!!!!+ bring the checkbook....
Unregistereda
06-21-2008, 10:01 AM
Not a chance, suozzi wont put the public at risk to beat the pba
Suozzi already beat the pba.
BEATEN LIKE
06-21-2008, 11:39 AM
Suozzi already beat the pba.
SOUNDLY WITH A 6 YEAR 4% PER RAISE....OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
registered
06-22-2008, 12:56 PM
SOUNDLY WITH A 6 YEAR 4% PER RAISE....OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Tell that to the 1%'ers.
scpd4lebie
06-22-2008, 04:13 PM
SOUNDLY WITH A 6 YEAR 4% PER RAISE....OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Tell that to the 1%'ers.
I will, and I'm sure they are happy to be 1%ers opposed to a troll with 0%.
Because they have the job, and they should be happy to take those crumbs, as will scpd newbies. Before they know it, they'll be raking in thr 100k, so it wont be quick like scpd(3 years) be they still made the big time.
Unregistered62208
06-22-2008, 10:44 PM
So I'm driving west on the LIE this morning and see a precinct patrol car and a disabled (?) vehicle with driver pulled over on the shoulder. Not 1/2 mile further west, I see 3, YES 3, Highway Patrol cars pulled over on the bound side, windows down, I assume just expressing thr concern to each other about who's really gonna be transferred.
Unregisterohmy
06-22-2008, 11:03 PM
So I'm driving west on the LIE this morning and see a precinct patrol car and a disabled (?) vehicle with driver pulled over on the shoulder. Not 1/2 mile further west, I see 3, YES 3, Highway Patrol cars pulled over on the bound side, windows down, I assume just expressing thr concern to each other about who's really gonna be transferred.
More likely circle-jerking each other.
Unwhatamisupp
06-23-2008, 09:19 AM
More likely circle-jerking each other.ROTFLMFAO!! Those are our highly educated members of the LI Police FARCE hard at work. I'm sure coffee and donuts were in the picture as well.
Unregisteredat9
06-23-2008, 03:33 PM
So I'm driving west on the LIE this morning and see a precinct patrol car and a disabled (?) vehicle with driver pulled over on the shoulder. Not 1/2 mile further west, I see 3, YES 3, Highway Patrol cars pulled over on the bound side, windows down, I assume just expressing thr concern to each other about who's really gonna be transferred.
So you would rather have seen 4 cop cars helping one disabled car? Then your post would be "oh why does it take 4 cops to help one motorists? My taxes ,my taxes, my taxes !!" GFY
dirty minds
06-23-2008, 04:56 PM
So you would rather have seen 4 cop cars helping one disabled car? Then your post would be "oh why does it take 4 cops to help one motorists? My taxes ,my taxes, my taxes !!" GFYrotflmao read my mind, these trolls have nothing better to do but fantazize about cops cricle jerking????
Unregistered062208
06-23-2008, 11:00 PM
[QUOTE=Unregisteredat9;211048]So you would rather have seen 4 cop cars helping one disabled car? Then your post would be "oh why does it take 4 cops to help one motorists? My taxes ,my taxes, my taxes !!" GFY[/QUOTE
I suppose you were unable to understand my point. Why was a precinct sector car responding and not a Hwy Patrol car?
And the GFY? I'm so happy my tax dollars are hard at work supporting such
learned, communicative professionals.
getwhatugive
06-24-2008, 04:34 AM
[QUOTE=Unregisteredat9;211048]So you would rather have seen 4 cop cars helping one disabled car? Then your post would be "oh why does it take 4 cops to help one motorists? My taxes ,my taxes, my taxes !!" GFY[/QUOTE
I suppose you were unable to understand my point. Why was a precinct sector car responding and not a Hwy Patrol car?
And the GFY? I'm so happy my tax dollars are hard at work supporting such
learned, communicative professionals.My understanding is the eway itself is highways and the service roads are patrols, if the patrol car was on the eway its possible both depts got the call and he arrived 1st and gaev the highway units a dissregard.
As far as professionals go, all bets are off after the "professional " circle jerk comments, sorry.
whyywhyywhyy
06-24-2008, 09:26 AM
rotflmao read my mind, these trolls have nothing better to do but fantazize about cops cricle jerking????wrong again piggo... this is not a fantasy of anybody outside of the SCPD, but more of a reality for the hard working tax payers of suffolk county. We have plenty of things to do, but it is disheartening to say the l to see lazy ass government employees putzing around on my dime. If you slimeballs were good sports, realized you are not better than anybody and just had a good saturday, treated people with respect than nobody would have a problem with you. Do you honestly think most law abiding citizens want crime? No way, we want a strong police force who wants to make the community a safe place. We don't want ticket writers, and we don't egotistical jerks who think that by virtue of becoming a cop they are above everybody else in society. Cops are blue collar government employees, no more no less. If you have short man's syndrome because you aren't an investment banker, doctor, or whatever else than deal with it. Civil service is SERVICE, not a ponzi scheme designed to rip off the tax payers.
pervtroll
06-24-2008, 11:58 AM
wrong again piggo... this is not a fantasy of anybody outside of the SCPD, but more of a reality for the hard working tax payers of suffolk county. We have plenty of things to do, but it is disheartening to say the l to see lazy ass government employees putzing around on my dime. If you slimeballs were good sports, realized you are not better than anybody and just had a good saturday, treated people with respect than nobody would have a problem with you. Do you honestly think most law abiding citizens want crime? No way, we want a strong police force who wants to make the community a safe place. We don't want ticket writers, and we don't egotistical jerks who think that by virtue of becoming a cop they are above everybody else in society. Cops are blue collar government employees, no more no less. If you have short man's syndrome because you aren't an investment banker, doctor, or whatever else than deal with it. Civil service is SERVICE, not a ponzi scheme designed to rip off the tax payers.
Yeah just like I thought, fantasies about cops jerking off, and you wonder why you arent taken as more then a joke here?
you want to be taken seriously then stop acting the fool.
Unregistered062208
06-24-2008, 09:20 PM
I suppose you were unable to understand my point. Why was a precinct sector car responding and not a Hwy Patrol car?
And the GFY? I'm so happy my tax dollars are hard at work supporting such
learned, communicative professionals.[/QUOTE]
If that was your point, why not just ask the question instead of gunning right off the bat with the smart @ss attitude? And you wonder why I told you where to go. I'll answer you anyway....
Because he saw it first? Because he happened by and handled it himself because he was already there and it would be pointless to call down another car?
As for telling you what you can go do, I'm not on duty here, I don't have to kiss your @ss like I do when I'm working, I don't have to be concerned with offending your delicate "I pay your salary" sensibilities, soooooooo...GFY
Unregisteredzs4b6ae5t
06-24-2008, 09:22 PM
If you have short man's syndrome because you aren't an investment banker, doctor, or whatever else than deal with it. Civil service is SERVICE, not a ponzi scheme designed to rip off the tax payers.[/QUOTE]
I think you mean PONZO scheme..... :)
poznoschemer
06-24-2008, 09:56 PM
If you have short man's syndrome because you aren't an investment banker, doctor, or whatever else than deal with it. Civil service is SERVICE, not a ponzi scheme designed to rip off the tax payers.
I think you mean PONZO scheme..... :)[/QUOTE]lol, funny stuff....but ...neg sadly the troll is claiming we are running a scheme of some sort. Our actual cost to these idiots is .66 on the dollar, and they pay it gleefully to the man who claims we are the problem and he'll fix us. But there is no scheme there. Make a tax called the police tax, but use it as the c.e. sees fit. Let a few 100 cops retire and dont replace them. Now there are 450-500 police positions this winner is paying his hero, that dont exist, but still call it as a police tax. Yeah maybe it is a ponzo scheme, maybe its a levy scheme, ther way the ignorant follow it right out of the County, blaming us all the way to Idaho or wherever they can go
But we are the problem not the people taking them for a 450 open spot x 120k a year ride.
And we are running a scheme, not the county.
Btw dippy Every job is a service to its customers, from the president of the usa down to the guy collecting carts at wauldbaums...maybe you are all in awe of doctors or investment bankers, but they are just regular people, who allow losers like you to pedestal them, and swell them up to demigods. No wonder they have so much trouble listening when I tell them what to do
Unregisteredat9
06-25-2008, 09:56 PM
QUOTE:
If that was your point, why not just ask the question instead of gunning right off the bat with the smart @ss attitude? And you wonder why I told you where to go. I'll answer you anyway....
Because he saw it first? Because he happened by and handled it himself because he was already there and it would be pointless to call down another car?
As for telling you what you can go do, I'm not on duty here, I don't have to kiss your @ss like I do when I'm working, I don't have to be concerned with offending your delicate "I pay your salary" sensibilities, soooooooo...GFY[/QUOTE]
RIGHT BACK AT YOU A**HOLE
Unregistered234235
06-26-2008, 12:20 AM
You dont have to kiss his A$$ at work ther contrary to his beliefs....
stupidpiggypoo2
06-26-2008, 01:44 PM
I think you mean PONZO scheme..... :)lol, funny stuff....but ...neg sadly the troll is claiming we are running a scheme of some sort. Our actual cost to these idiots is .66 on the dollar, and they pay it gleefully to the man who claims we are the problem and he'll fix us. But there is no scheme there. Make a tax called the police tax, but use it as the c.e. sees fit. Let a few 100 cops retire and dont replace them. Now there are 450-500 police positions this winner is paying his hero, that dont exist, but still call it as a police tax. Yeah maybe it is a ponzo scheme, maybe its a levy scheme, ther way the ignorant follow it right out of the County, blaming us all the way to Idaho or wherever they can go
But we are the problem not the people taking them for a 450 open spot x 120k a year ride.
And we are running a scheme, not the county.
Btw dippy Every job is a service to its customers, from the president of the usa down to the guy collecting carts at wauldbaums...maybe you are all in awe of doctors or investment bankers, but they are just regular people, who allow losers like you to pedestal them, and swell them up to demigods. No wonder they have so much trouble listening when I tell them what to do[/QUOTE]You are civil service... a bullshit government employee who leeches off the tax payers because in the free market darwinism would take over and chew you up and spit you out, just like it would all of the pathetic losers out there who become cops and work for the government.
inadequateposter
06-26-2008, 03:59 PM
lol, funny stuff....but ...neg sadly the troll is claiming we are running a scheme of some sort. Our actual cost to these idiots is .66 on the dollar, and they pay it gleefully to the man who claims we are the problem and he'll fix us. But there is no scheme there. Make a tax called the police tax, but use it as the c.e. sees fit. Let a few 100 cops retire and dont replace them. Now there are 450-500 police positions this winner is paying his hero, that dont exist, but still call it as a police tax. Yeah maybe it is a ponzo scheme, maybe its a levy scheme, ther way the ignorant follow it right out of the County, blaming us all the way to Idaho or wherever they can go
But we are the problem not the people taking them for a 450 open spot x 120k a year ride.
And we are running a scheme, not the county.
Btw dippy Every job is a service to its customers, from the president of the usa down to the guy collecting carts at wauldbaums...maybe you are all in awe of doctors or investment bankers, but they are just regular people, who allow losers like you to pedestal them, and swell them up to demigods. No wonder they have so much trouble listening when I tell them what to doYou are civil service... a bullshit government employee who leeches off the tax payers because in the free market darwinism would take over and chew you up and spit you out, just like it would all of the pathetic losers out there who become cops and work for the government.[/QUOTE]
And how about those pathetic losers like yourself that reside beneath me, on lifes scale and cannot even quote properly?
schmuck moron
06-26-2008, 04:03 PM
LOL at the above post... so what were you saying about quoting properly, MORON?
inadequateposter
06-26-2008, 04:11 PM
Look now your idiocy has screwed up my post....you stupid dipshit
inadequateposter
06-26-2008, 04:12 PM
LOL at the above post... so what were you saying about quoting properly, MORON?
I made the mistake of attempting to quote your asinine post. My fault. I should know like everything else you touch it turns to shit or smells like it like your wifes hairy twat
Unregisteredo
06-26-2008, 11:00 PM
I made the mistake of attempting to quote your asinine post. My fault. I should know like everything else you touch it turns to shit or smells like it like your wifes hairy twat
Thanks for the input Achilles. Intellectual as always.
jablome
06-27-2008, 02:06 AM
keeps the cops from hanging out at vol. firehouses..or bsing on the side of a school parking lot on thr cell phones,,see it quite often...
to the personnas list
06-27-2008, 06:51 AM
keeps the cops from hanging out at vol. firehouses..or bsing on the side of a school parking lot on thr cell phones,,see it quite often...
"another" copwatcher....
Unregistered z
06-27-2008, 02:14 PM
"another" copwatcher....
...yup. and if he was patrolling while on the cell phone, then they'd complain about THAT. DIYD,DIYD
Unregisteredlittlegirl
07-02-2008, 11:09 AM
my safety on the roads of the LIE and Sunrise. Granted I wrote on another post about how certain divisions of the SCPD don't play along w/ each other and I know this first hand. But, I travel these roads on a fairly regular basis and see how other drivers act. It does make me nervous. I do believe that Levy is playing a DANGEROUS game that will blow up in his face. Save money?? It's a FEDERAL HIGHWAY!!!! Anyone contact D.C. to get patrols, since technically it was built and is maintained by THEM?? Guess none of the brain children thought of that one. I am not sure about Sunrise....can anyone educate me on that one??
And to find a Trooper on one of thr roads?? That's a joke. It takes them over 20 min. to respond to a SERIOUS accident. SCPD shows up before them. Again, Levy is playing w/ fire and this will COST LIVES. EMS WILL BE VERY BUSY THIS WEEKEND......SADLY ENOUGH.
SCPDarealllittlegirls
07-02-2008, 02:21 PM
my safety on the roads of the LIE and Sunrise. Granted I wrote on another post about how certain divisions of the SCPD don't play along w/ each other and I know this first hand. But, I travel these roads on a fairly regular basis and see how other drivers act. It does make me nervous. I do believe that Levy is playing a DANGEROUS game that will blow up in his face. Save money?? It's a FEDERAL HIGHWAY!!!! Anyone contact D.C. to get patrols, since technically it was built and is maintained by THEM?? Guess none of the brain children thought of that one. I am not sure about Sunrise....can anyone educate me on that one??
And to find a Trooper on one of thr roads?? That's a joke. It takes them over 20 min. to respond to a SERIOUS accident. SCPD shows up before them. Again, Levy is playing w/ fire and this will COST LIVES. EMS WILL BE VERY BUSY THIS WEEKEND......SADLY ENOUGH.more scare tatics from the SCPD PBA who see thr piggy banks (no pun intended) at risk.
stayawayfromgirls
07-02-2008, 02:45 PM
more scare tatics from the SCPD PBA who see thr piggy banks (no pun intended) at risk.
Look at his username...think thats his ultimate fantasy?
What a sick perverted piece of shit.
I forwarded his post to perverted justice...they aren too happy wth him.
scpdisgarbage
07-02-2008, 02:56 PM
Look at his username...think thats his ultimate fantasy?
What a sick perverted piece of shit.
I forwarded his post to perverted justice...they aren too happy wth him.Wasn't an SCPD caught on a perverted justice sting? Oh wait, no the SCPD that was caught signed on his ex's match dot com address and set up fake dates... yup, that sounds like a classic example of suffolk county's finest. Rejected by women and commiting crimes in order to exact revenge.
youarenext
07-02-2008, 03:07 PM
Wasn't an SCPD caught on a perverted justice sting? Oh wait, no the SCPD that was caught signed on his ex's match dot com address and set up fake dates... yup, that sounds like a classic example of suffolk county's finest. Rejected by women and commiting crimes in order to exact revenge.
Yup, a scpd cop with all of 5 months on and caught by whom? SCPD, who else.....just like we are going to catch you if you keep eyeballing those kids loser
youneed2blockedup
07-03-2008, 08:52 AM
Yup, a scpd cop with all of 5 months on and caught by whom? SCPD, who else.....just like we are going to catch you if you keep eyeballing those kids loserHuh? you can't speak for the SCPD on this message board... by saying I'm next, what do you mean? Now THAT sounds like a threat...
youneed2blockedup
07-03-2008, 09:05 AM
Huh? you can't speak for the SCPD on this message board... by saying I'm next, what do you mean? Now THAT sounds like a threat...
Sure it does, what is the threat moron? C'mon lets hear it? If you are next in line is that a threat? If you are bng told you are the next perv locked up thats a threat?
I understand you have limited intelligence, but realize there is no threat of violence in the phrase "you are next"
UnregisteredIknow
07-03-2008, 09:10 AM
Huh? you can't speak for the SCPD on this message board... by saying I'm next, what do you mean? Now THAT sounds like a threat...
I feel like I'm dealing with a mastiod or some other form of white trash....why dont you make it up as you go along. Ok I'll bite.... What exactly is anyone getting locked up for?
ublockhead
07-03-2008, 09:21 AM
Huh? you can't speak for the SCPD on this message board... by saying I'm next, what do you mean? Now THAT sounds like a threat...
Maybe I'm a bit more intelligent then you, but if you arent sure of the meaning that you are inquiring...then how does it sound like a threat?
Unregisdfs3423dds
07-03-2008, 04:21 PM
This sounds like a real threat to me... some people who post as cops (And probably are) are telling me that "I'm next"... I don't know what I'm next for but it doesn't sound like something I want to expose myself or my family to. I bet that slimeball achilles is the poster of that threat... some stupid cops are going to have some explaining to do. I wonder how that headline would read in Newsday: SCPD cop threatens suffolk county residents on message board.
Unregisteredsorry
07-03-2008, 05:02 PM
This sounds like a real threat to me... some people who post as cops (And probably are) are telling me that "I'm next"... I don't know what I'm next for but it doesn't sound like something I want to expose myself or my family to. I bet that slimeball achilles is the poster of that threat... some stupid cops are going to have some explaining to do. I wonder how that headline would read in Newsday: SCPD cop threatens suffolk county residents on message board.
Sorry if you dont know what the phrase you are next means, it isnt a threat. No matter what or how you interpret it, doesnt fit the law governing threats over electronic devices...with INTENT to annoy alarm or harass...you cant even figure out the meaning, let alone if its a threat....
I think the headline would read like this;
" (blank) "
youareaperv
07-03-2008, 05:08 PM
Yup, a scpd cop with all of 5 months on and caught by whom? SCPD, who else.....just like we are going to catch you if you keep eyeballing those kids loser
If you can prove the person intended YOU to be the reader, it seems you are next to be "caught if you keep eyeballing those kids"...just like the scpd got coaught doing computer crimes....the only way this could even be percved as a factual statement(its not a threat, no implication of physical harm) is if you are in fact eyeballing kids...
So I guess this one struck a nerve huh,perv?
Unregisteredwhosnext
07-03-2008, 05:12 PM
This sounds like a real threat to me... some people who post as cops (And probably are) are telling me that "I'm next"... I don't know what I'm next for but it doesn't sound like something I want to expose myself or my family to.
If you dont know, as you state clearly then its not a threat, the post quoted doesnt state any physical harm, again not a threat .... next moron??
Unregisteredere
07-04-2008, 07:46 AM
If you dont know, as you state clearly then its not a threat, the post quoted doesnt state any physical harm, again not a threat .... next moron??lol
what a jackazz
Unregistergedmoron
07-04-2008, 10:46 AM
This sounds like a real threat to me... some people who post as cops (And probably are) are telling me that "I'm next"... I don't know what I'm next for but it doesn't sound like something I want to expose myself or my family to. I bet that slimeball achilles is the poster of that threat... some stupid cops are going to have some explaining to do. I wonder how that headline would read in Newsday: SCPD cop threatens suffolk county residents on message board.You are in denial of bng a sicko and liking kids, so you refuse to acknowledge what you are exposing(freudian slip????) yourself and your family to. The "threat" of bng arrested for bng a child sex offender.
Which in the real world, and the penal law, isnt a threat, you fucking imbecile. If someone states you are going to be arrested for violating the laws pertaining to sex offenses that is known as a statement. A threat must clearly and intentionally place a person in fear of physical harm.
got it? you stupid ged moron!!
UnregisteredX56
07-04-2008, 11:47 PM
I was in Asharoken tonight (July 4, 2008) and a Suffolk County Sheriff's vehicle was patrolling Asharoken Avenue.
Is the Village of Asharoken going to rmburse Suffolk County for this assignment.
Or is the County Executive saying one thing (about the Highway Division on the LIE) and doing another (using count services in a village)?
Unregistered9999999999
07-05-2008, 02:00 PM
I was in Asharoken tonight (July 4, 2008) and a Suffolk County Sheriff's vehicle was patrolling Asharoken Avenue.
Is the Village of Asharoken going to rmburse Suffolk County for this assignment.
Or is the County Executive saying one thing (about the Highway Division on the LIE) and doing another (using count services in a village)?
I am not picking on you whatsoever, but am merely explaining how Suffolk County works. The Sheriff's Office works for the Sheriff, not the CE. However, the Police Department does work for the CE. "Departments" work for the CE, "Offices" work for its elected official. Police, Social Services, Public Works, etc. are all Departments and work for the CE. The Sheriff, Clerk, District Attorney, etc. are Offices and work for thr elected official.
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