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Roads1
11-21-2002, 01:21 PM
A writer in Newsweek argued that the Democrats in the
recent election were becoming the party of "Old Geesers." He pointed to the images of Walter Mondale and Frank Launtenberg, both in thr seventies. The writer argued
that the Democrats focused on the Social Security issue
to the exclusion of other issues, especially issues that
are important to people under 30 years old. (funding for
child care, affordable housing etc.)
He argued that the Democrats did not appear forward
looking but appealed to thr loyal Senior Citizen constituency.
In fact, young people have a notoriously low voting rate.
Is that because the parties do not appeal to thr interests?
Do you think the Newsweek writer's arguement is a good
one?

Yodel
11-21-2002, 04:34 PM
Yes, people under 30 barely show up at all at the polls. Few candidates have young issues, but, you know, I don't think the old people mind it if you have young issues -- they were young once and most have kids and grandkids.
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Popeye
11-22-2002, 08:39 AM
Isn't someone forgetting Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond? Mondale and Lautenberg are mere lads compared to them.

Hey Old Guy
11-22-2002, 10:05 AM
Geritol sells well at the Capitol Hill Club, and undergarments too!

Yodel
11-22-2002, 11:09 AM
A lot of geezers!

Who can name the next JFK?

Is there an under-40 politician of national significance, on his way up the ladder?

I can't think of any.

The youth don't vote and young candidates don't get elected.

No inspiration. Just hacks.
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Smithtown Dem
11-22-2002, 02:22 PM
John Edwards
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Yodel
11-22-2002, 04:04 PM
Wow!
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Popeye
11-23-2002, 05:30 PM
The psychic is John Edward, minus the "s", and he might not be such a bad idea. At l, he would get the vote of those who have crossed over, like the old Chicago machine.

What we Need
11-26-2002, 04:59 PM
As a Republican, I would love to see the Democrats adopt more of thr program from the liberal left. When I was an "intellectual student" I could not have agreed with you more. Once I became "disgruntled taxpayer," I most verily find myself in agreement with you once again, since the liberal wing of the Democratic Party is virtually unelectable outside of the big city wards.

Retired Colonel
11-26-2002, 06:07 PM
The disgruntled tend to side with the right but...

Have Republicans really proven to be tax cutters? In Suffolk, we're in a longtime GOP stronghold. The GOP has led the state for what will be 12 years when Pataki's done. Our taxes are NUTS!

Like I said in another post, all politicians are going to tax you as much as you can endure -- and then some.

At l with the liberals some people -- maybe you -- will get some services. With the GOP the money seems more often wasted or spent on backroom deals.

Maybe services cost less than backroom deals longterm.
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Hey Col.
11-29-2002, 10:50 AM
The values of the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party are excellent. Candidates should be proud to run on them. The lesson progressives learned in the last two decades is that to achieve social justice there must be economic growth. And programs to improve people's lives must be done on a pay as you go basis. Budgets must be balanced. It is necessary to cut spending in one area to pay for something else. Eg. we need universal health care but we will have cut Trident submarines and subsidies to tobacco farmers. And Social Security is in for a big crash in 20 years if tough decisions are not made. Politicians need to operate as if they do not care about winning reelection.

Roads1
12-05-2002, 04:54 AM
Politicians on LI are quite liberal, not conservative. Republicans and Democrats alike like entitlements and push more costly programs. The new mantra, "grow our way out of recession", fooled many voters who haven't realized the such "growth" will require more government spending.

Look at the recent property tax increases region-wide and the commuter tax proposal to see where both the Republicans and Democrats are getting the needed revenue.

Anyone from elsewhere in the US would be hardpressed to tell the difference between the two parties in NY (at the very l LI).

With government (and patronage) larger than ever before and few cuts in the offing, nther party can consider themselves conservative or progressive.

The new trend is to give targeted tax cuts to small influential groups such as the seniors and volunteer firefighters to buy thr votes while placing the burden on everyone else.

Until the people realize that they have look past parties; to think, then vote instead of not caring, then staying home; the situation won't change.