View Full Version : Are you getting sick........
Clintonista
11-03-2003, 02:46 PM
of the crap we're bng told to justify the war in Iraq?
Wacky Pataki, point man for W in the NE, was on MSNBC and AGAIN ting Iraq and 9/11. He uses the same old "fight them there then in Brooklyn" line.
Hey Gov: exactly HOW MANY terrorists have been diverted from Brooklyn to Baghdad? None, zero zip nada that's how many. if they thought they could get ONE terrorist into Brooklyn they would. the reason they're all in Iraq is BECAUSE of the war!
do they realy think the American people are THAT stupid?! :">
This crowd has got to go...........
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status quo
11-03-2003, 08:11 PM
I'm getting sick of reading that one or more American soldiers are getting killed every day. We can't leave because that would be a total waste of American lives. If we stay, this will continue. Bush really dug himself a deep one that will unfortunately haunt him to election day. It is a shame Americans are bng used as target practice to justify the lies of the son to bail out the father.
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I am very sick of it. Bush must think the American people are dumb beyond measure, granted many are, but not all of us are. Remember, in 2004 we can make our voices heard.
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But, you not willing to get up and protest and make the Gov't do what it should be doing.. He (Bush) knows he can get away with anything because the American People are afried to stand up for what it right.... What happen to this country.. If you have an issue your put down by the special Interests who are more powerful then the citizen of this country... We have gown weak in our beliefs and freedom and now the people who run the Gov't or Big Corps run you!!
Our children will die but never will it be one of thrs
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wookibender
12-02-2003, 01:55 PM
Quote:?Bush, in Austin, criticized President Clinton?s administration for not doing enough to enunciate a goal for the Kosovo military action and indicated the bombing campaign might not be a tough enough response. ?Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is,? Bush said.? [Houston Chronicle, 4/9/99]
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Billybob
12-04-2003, 07:34 AM
I think the government currently is set up so it doesn't have to answer to anyone, especially the American people. Look at how sheltered Bush has been from the MASSIVE protests that have spanned his entire presidency. He simply avoids them. What good is a protest if the person you're protesting doesn't even need to see you?
Have you ever written your congressman? How about the President or his cabinet? You get a bulk letter in response, which never addresses the meaning of your letter (and occasionally responds to comments that you didn't make). How many people's letters do you think are ACTUALLY read by anyone who gives a crap? I'll bet very few, except for those coming from people who made big campaign contributions.
It's like ANY corporation. People are constantly afraid to upset the boss, so they don't share anything with him that might upset him, or doesn't fit his personal prejudices. The further up the chain you go, the less accurate information is conveyed. It's like the blind leading the scared.
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Reality
12-04-2003, 04:50 PM
Quote:Look at how sheltered Bush has been from the MASSIVE protests that have spanned his entire presidency. He simply avoids them. What good is a protest if the person you're protesting doesn't even need to see you?
And this is any different from any other president we've had during times of protest?
Quote:Have you ever written your congressman? How about the President or his cabinet? You get a bulk letter in response, which never addresses the meaning of your letter (and occasionally responds to comments that you didn't make). How many people's letters do you think are ACTUALLY read by anyone who gives a crap? I'll bet very few, except for those coming from people who made big campaign contributions.
Again...How is this different from any other administration or congressmen you've had?
I agree with you that it would be really nice if someone, anyone who represents us would listen once in a while, but those days are over. Once elected, a congressman is pretty much guaranteed re-election unless he's arrested or disgraced in some way. Until that changes, nothing will change. Get used to bng ignored...its the American way.
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shortwave
12-04-2003, 05:15 PM
The war would end rather quickly if the male senior jocks at highschools such as Cold Spring and Saint Anthony High school were drafted into the marines upon graduation from high school. Do you think the wealthy chicken hawk republican fathers of these young men would let this happen?No Way. These filthy wall street bond traders and stock market manipulators who live in places such Cold Spring Harbor and Llyod Neck are cowards (as are thr sons). Did you know that war mongerer Bill O'Rielly(nice home in port washington) opted out of the vietnam war in the very same year-1967- that ten thousand of his working class contemporaries were slaughtered in Vietnam. I think any man who who supports this war should be drafted along with his highschool jock sons to fight in Iraq. In the times of General George S Patton, Bill O'Rlly and Sean Hannity would have been shot for cowardice.
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Century 21
12-04-2003, 08:59 PM
It's PLANDOME, not Port Washington. We know because we sold it to him. Don't listen to him, because for years he said he was from Levittown and was actually from a Levitt home in SALSBURY in WESTBURY.
We in the trade say, "location, location, location," to emphasize the most important factors of real-estate sales.
But with O'Rlly, it should be "location, location." That is, one location where he CLAIMS, and another where he actually IS.
And remember "fair and balanced?" Well, that 's the best way to describe the old house he bought - it's in FAIR condition, and it's BALANCED on the waterfront on the Gold Coast's North Shore!
Billybob
12-05-2003, 01:10 PM
I don't agree with your reasoning about this awful tragedy not bng different from any other president.
Throughout the 20th Century, while the people were becomming smarter and generally less ignorant, the US government has become less and less of a representative democracy and more of a tsarist regime. If you think that's crazy sounding, look up the definition of tsar in the dictionary. It fits quite well.
But I really take issue with that logic. It really shows how you view politics as a battle. Good against evil, right against wrong, etc. I am NOT sayign that George Bush is the only president to be disconnected from the people he represents. But I AM saying that he's the worst offender to date.
But how can you defend this? Or are you just so cynical that you recognize that the country we have now is NOT the free society our founding fathers had in mind, but you think nothing can or should be done to fix it.
George W. Bush is the disease, not the cure.
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midgetbones
12-07-2003, 07:20 AM
The war would end rather quickly if the male senior jocks at highschools such as Cold Spring and Saint Anthony High school were drafted into the marines upon graduation from high school. Do you think the wealthy chicken hawk republican fathers of these young men would let this happen?No Way. These filthy wall street bond traders and stock market manipulators who live in places such Cold Spring Harbor and Llyod Neck are cowards (as are thr sons). Did you know that war mongerer Bill O'Rielly(nice home in port washington) opted out of the vietnam war in the very same year-1967- that ten thousand of his working class contemporaries were slaughtered in Vietnam. I think any man who who supports this war should be drafted along with his highschool jock sons to fight in Iraq. In the times of General George S Patton, Bill O'Rlly and Sean Hannity would have been shot for cowardice. "
I come from a upper middle class family. I fought in Iraq, my brother is currently serving the Marine Corps also. I went to boot camp with many wealthy kids. They aren't all middle class and below. In fact most of the kids I went to School of Infantry with were from upper middle class. We even had a 26 yr. old who was a millionaire. But I guess because we came from a family with money we are cowards? Did you serve in the military or presently serving? If not, why in the hell are you making such accusations?
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