It's Official Foxnews watchers are Stupid

[NYIndependence]

Quote:70% think we ACTUALY found WMD in Iraq

60% believe that Hussn was DIRECTLY involved with 9/11
When did Fox News report ther of these stories?

Quote:Orwell would be proud
You're thinking of Bradbury.
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[IslipDem]

saw, on CNN, the reults of a survey of those who identify themselves as viewers of FoxNews. Just a few results:

70% think we ACTUALY found WMD in Iraq

60% believe that Hussn was DIRECTLY involved with 9/11

the Bush Big Lie machine is in working order at Fox.

Orwell would be proud
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[Nattydread]

..He did not say FAUX reported anything. He merely stated the beliefs of the FAUX listeners. Stop trying to take his comments out of context.

And his comments has some merit. Hannity after a few weeks after the war was convinced that some..abandoned truck was a chemical weapons lab. And walla..there was the WMD.
Those guys kept trying to say documents found were proof of WMD. It is not surprising that someone locked into FAUX could be convinced that there actually is WMD. In addition they actually have several right wingers selling books (that Ann something woman and the old guy who was busted recently) practically as co-host on the shows. Between the 2 of them they are gonna clean up on you suckers with those book proceeds!

I could never watch a half hour of FAUX news and feel informed. Because Faux is pretty much tabloid news. No wonder they wear so much make-up..eee-gad!

Actually one of my biggest pet peeves is why the F@CK my cable company bundle FAUX with my package. And I have the basic package.
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[wookibender]

It is a lot more than Fox that is doing it.

Although, Fox is at the top of the american media brainwashing during the war. Many stations are finally coming around to reporting many truths about the war IMO. I think many stations wanted to report more balanced news but felt restricted or feared they would be called unpatriotic and loose there advertising revenues.

I remember going to my parents house, there conservative republicans who primarily watch Fox news as there main new source. They were absolutely shocked in my saying that we have not found any WMD. They said it was all over the news. What crazy news sations have you been watching they asked to me.... they thought I was brainwashed, yet it was fox who brainwashed them.
Now they are starting to see the problems with Fox and this administrations lies. For the first time they are going to vote for a non Republican in the next ellection.

The biggest fault is them only paying attention to one news source. It is very important to look at what other countries news stations are reporting and to get a balance.

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[NYIndependence]

The insinuation is that Fox is somehow responsible for these people having these misconceptions, so I would like to know when Fox reported them. Otherwise, this study is meaningless.
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[wookibender]

Quote: The insinuation is that Fox is somehow responsible for these people having these misconceptions, so I would like to know when Fox reported them. Otherwise, this study is meaningless.


I don't get your logic. You're saying Fox has to admit to this for it to be true? Please explain?
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[NYIndependence]

The point is that since we are all in agreement that Fox never reported the discovery of WMDs, how are they responsible for what the participants in this poll think?
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[Nattydread]

They (FAUX) imply this conclusion by thr rhetoric. And it's a win-win situation for the republicans. I'll explain. bush/republicans do not want to get caught in yet ANOTHER LIE!

If they can say they found WMD without actually saying they found WMD thats the best of both worlds! Watch Hannity and Colms on any given night and he'll actually say explicitly that there were/are/is WMD. I've heard him say it several times. WHY CAN"T YOU GET THIS?

Bush/republicans can't explicitly say to Americans...here's what your $200B (and counting), over 600 GI lives(I've lost count) and 1,000's more wounded was for. But if he can get you to think it, through rhetorics, and subliminals...thats a win-win for them.

ARE YOU GETTING IT NOW?


People like myself will not buy this kind of rhetoric. Because from the start we thought it was mighty suspicious that, Saddam, having no one really watching him for over a decade suddenly decided to build a nuclear bomb (as was suggested) in 1st quarter 2003!

You still think it makes sense (maybe thats why you can't get this)!
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[wookibender]

Another way FOX gets people to think WMD are found is by posting information WAY TO EARLY before facts are found.

They like to be a "First to report" news agency and have headlines such as:

"Suspected CHEMICAL WEAPONS PLANT FOUND"

One person will see this on Fox and then go have a conversation with co-workers, family, friends.... and they will say
"hey, did you hear they found a chemical weapons plant"
and then that gets spread around to others they found the WMD.

FOX needs to wait for the facts to come in before presenting information like this. There is no need to do this except to feed the appetites of the Republicans watching thr station so desparately wanting to hear of the BIG discovery.

And then when the plant turns out to NOT BE WMD, Fox will not retract the story and tell viewers it wasn't true.

This is a huge reason why 70% think we found WMD. Way to go FOX!
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[IslipDem]

NYIndy,

As I wrote it was a report on CNN about a survey of Fox wathcers.

Bradbury? No Orwell - doublespeak

although I can understand your confusion. It certainly IS a Brave New World under W.

not good but new
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[NYIndependence]

When did Fox report that a Chemical Weapons plant was found? If they did, did they report that weapons were inside? They very well may have found a bona fide weapons plant that was void of weapons.

It was Bradbury's Farenht 451 where the populace is distracted by incoherent media diversions and does not seek knowledge. That is partly true with Fox News. I don't think they are deviantly controlling the population or intentionally reporting misinformation, but I do think that entertainment comes before substance for them.
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[wookibender]

Quote: NYIndependence asks:
When did Fox report that a Chemical Weapons plant was found?
You just proved my point!!!

They never did report a "Chemical Weapons Plant."

It was a "SUSPECTED" Chemical Weapons Plant. Did that little statement get you all excited about finding WMD that you forgot to say SUSPECTED?

Are you one of those 70% that think Saddam was related to 9/11?

If you want to read the article here you go...
SUSPECTED CHEMICAL WEAPONS PLANT FOUND - YOU HEARD IT HEAR FIRST ON FOX NEWS!!!!!!!!!
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[NYIndependence]

I could see how the information would be misinterpreted wrongly, but I feel that it is the viewer's fault more than the news provider conspiring to trick people into believing something they never said in the first place.

In regards to Saddam and al-Qaeda, I believe there was a connection of sorts, but not neccessarily when it comes to the 9/11 attacks. That is not, however, based on Fox News. Rather, it is based on the testimony of former CIA Director James Woolsey who was Director of Central Intelligence during both the Gulf War and 93 WTC attack and would have extensive knowledge on what ties, if any, exist between the two entities.
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[yeah but]

Just because there is no evidence YET that Saddam was connected to 9-11 does not mean it wasn't so.

Al Qaeda did train in Iraq.

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[wookibender]

Quote: Just because there is no evidence YET that Saddam was connected to 9-11 does not mean it wasn't so.

Al Qaeda did train in Iraq.
Just because Monkey's haven't flown out of your butt YET does not mean it's not going to happen.

So what proof do we have?

Quote:President Bush and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, who earlier in the day said the United States has evidence linking Iraq and al Qaeda, but they did not elaborate.
source


I've heard this one before....
We have all the evidence but we can't show it to you.... It would undermine our intelligence gathering to show you, but trust us, we know.

Quote:Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes.

Ari Flsher
Press Briefing
March 21, 2003
Quote:We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and , west, south and north somewhat.

Donald Rumsfeld
ABC Interview
March 30, 2003

Quote:But make no mistake -- as I said earlier -- we have high confidence that they have weapons of mass destruction. That is what this war was about and it is about. And we have high confidence it will be found.

Ari Flscher
Press Briefing
April 10, 2003
Wait, You said the war was about WMD then changed it to be primarily about LIberating the people of IRAQ? You mean to tell me it was really all about the WMD that we haven't found? Gosh, you should stop confusing the public. They're already confused enough. Why are we at war? How many times do you want to change your story when it does not add up for you? You want to now ask the UN for help with your big problem when you said F*ck You to them before going in? That's some really fine Foriegn Policy you got going George. Gosh, make up your minds, The UN is bunch of idiots that can't do there job, now you want there help after going it alone? This is war we're talking about. Thousands of lives at stake. What's your plan?
AND SHOW US THE PROOF!!!!!!



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[yeah but]

..train for terrorism in Iraq??

Did Clinton lie when he said there were wmd in Iraq and bombed in Iraq? (You don't have the guts to answer this question.)

"All this talk about whether the threat
from Saddam Hussn was imminent is a bright-red herring. The question was
whether Saddam should have been stopped before he became an imminent
threat, and
he has been." --Paul Greenberg

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[wookibender]

Quote:Did Clinton lie when he said there were wmd in Iraq and bombed in Iraq? (You don't have the guts to answer this question.)
I don't dispute that Saddam at one time had WMD because we are the ones that gave him all of it.

Let me ask you something... If your boss told you to destroy your work that you have been working on for the last 3 weeks because it is illegal to have, would you document that you destroyed it?

Our reasoning for going to war was that Saddam had not shown proof that he destroyed all these WMD. Don't you find that a little odd. We want proof that Saddam destoyed the evidence.

And our government said they had PROOF of these WMD. Where is it now? Why don't they attempt to save face by at l showing the public thr PROOF they had to justify this war. (I'll bet you don't have the guts to answer that one)

Quote:The question was
whether Saddam should have been stopped before he became an imminent
threat, and
he has been." --Paul Greenberg

Show me that Saddam was an imminent threat to the USA. What did he have to threaten us with that was so IMMINENT?
Let's see the proof?
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[Clintonista]

Yes he did!

Then lobbed in a few Cruise Missles. And caught hell from the right.

And if you can't see beyond your W loving to see there's a major difference between a few cruise missles and a ground war YOU have a problem.

Nbody would have said much if W attacked soem suspected weapons depots with air power. But he didn't. Wolfowitz & Co. manipulated this country into war. And should be fired. And prosocuted if it can be proven he deliberatly played with the intelligence.

We were had pure and simple. But what do they care? Thiere kids don't die and they don't even have to pay the bill. The middle class does.

Amazing......they tell us how we're fighting to protect our way of life. But those with the most to loose are asked to contribute the l.
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