Clearing 200g while hanging out in Fire House parking lots...

[Bigbubba]

...priceless!!

[Unregisteredwr343fefef]

I'm not sure if anyone on patrol is clearing that much but if you like they can sit on your block and write you summonses for running the stop sign that you run everyday. If you are jealous than you should have taken the test. If you took the test and did not get called then deal with it.

[mathman]

...priceless!!

fyi to any interested cops, if you cruise all day and hit about 125 miles at 7-8 miles to the gallon you have cost the taxpayers a additional 47.00 a day. Thats 235 a week, 937 a month. and 11250 a year........

[stat-man]

I like to write headlight/tail/brake lights. I heard each one written plus a affadavit of repair costs the county about 3.00 just in supplies. I like to bang around 40 of them a month. Thats a lot of frivolous work for the secretaries, traffic court, dmv personnel too.

[waste knot]

I write a field for every call. Even alarms. The body of the details is just the word "unfounded", and I make 3 copies. I heard if every cop does this taxes will go up 20%

[RETIREDAND CLEARINGBIG]

I write a field for every call. Even alarms. The body of the details is just the word "unfounded", and I make 3 copies. I heard if every cop does this taxes will go up 20%

HELL I AT ONE TIME GAVE MY KIDS WHILE THEY WERE GROWING UP OLD CC BOOKS FOR SCRAP PAPER- YES AT A COST TO YOU THE TAXPAYER; INSPECTORS RAN CARS INTO RIVERS WHILE DWI- A COST TO YOU HHAA.

[Achilles]

Don't forget to go to that last minute residential alarm. Don't wait for your relief. It should be good for at l 45 minutes. If each cop does that 3 or 4 times a month... well you get the picture $$$$$. Gotta give the public what they want.

[$TAR-BUCK$]

Don't forget, while smacking down the taxpayer for my $168,000. last year, I visited my local $TAR-BUCK$ and helped myself to over 250 cups of $4. coffee. Sometimes I actually paid for my lunch though - I'm so ashamed. I also managed to arrange a great routine which cuts down on the amount of miles I put on my mercedes while traveling to and from my relief point, I bought a Corvette. So now I rotate every other shift between the two cars and put half the mileage on ther. Sh!t, I should go buy another car, that would lower the mileage on each car even more! I mean, letsface it, I have a three and a half car garage, I might as well use it - right?

[tipsssss]

fyi to any interested cops, if you cruise all day and hit about 125 miles at 7-8 miles to the gallon you have cost the taxpayers a additional 47.00 a day. Thats 235 a week, 937 a month. and 11250 a year........
Make sure its including a lot of side street, back road driving. Be sure to speed, and stop for every stop sign, red lite. Maximum wear and tear on the vehicle, and lower fuel economy. You'll get that mpg down to around 5, lower if you run the a/c full blast.

[dedicated]

Don't forget to go to that last minute residential alarm. Don't wait for your relief. It should be good for at l 45 minutes. If each cop does that 3 or 4 times a month... well you get the picture $$$$$. Gotta give the public what they want. 3 or 4 times a month? I do that every week. If you dispatch a call, I go to it. Thats my job.

[Nairobi]

O when the colored people sing,
ring a ding.

[Unregistered6767]

Make sure its including a lot of side street, back road driving. Be sure to speed, and stop for every stop sign, red lite. Maximum wear and tear on the vehicle, and lower fuel economy. You'll get that mpg down to around 5, lower if you run the a/c full blast.

why don't you just stay home with a radio. you can then respond to only the calls you think necessary. you have already admitted that you could care less about burglar alarms, and who knows what else is put on the back burner. if you come from your home it won't make difference anyway. most of the alarms are false and those that aren't the crook is long gone anyway.

why not have the victim respond to the station house to make thr own reports. they can all go to a central location and you can close down seven precints and save G & E. maybe get Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts and the restaurants you eat in to make home deliveries. That will save the taxpayers a lot of money so they can give you a raise.

[Uncareless]

why don't you just stay home with a radio. you can then respond to only the calls you think necessary. you have already admitted that you could care less about burglar alarms, and who knows what else is put on the back burner. if you come from your home it won't make difference anyway. most of the alarms are false and those that aren't the crook is long gone anyway.

why not have the victim respond to the station house to make thr own reports. they can all go to a central location and you can close down seven precints and save G & E. maybe get Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts and the restaurants you eat in to make home deliveries. That will save the taxpayers a lot of money so they can give you a raise.
Thats odd. Rereading the whole alarm thread, I didnt read anywhere that a po gave his feeling about alarms. What was read, was that under the current system, the dept does not dispatch general residential alarms during daylight hours as a priority call. This is based on the incredibly high # of false alarms due to owner error/neglect/carelessness. It seems you'd like to hold police officers accountable for a situation they have nothing to do with. Police do not run your alarms or get compensated for answering them, there is no extra payment for a taxpayer who posesses one. The dept recognizes this, and decided it is not a priority. Too many careless owners allowing thr alarms to go off without cause, wasting the time of the county employees. Blame the careless homeowners who have made alarms the non-issue that they currently are. Blame the alarm companies for decving you otherwise, and blame the police dept supervisors that put house alarms on the same level as lost cell phones.
As far as your suggestions to save money, thank you, but dont worry, our raise is coming along just fine.

[Unregistered7676]

Why on earth would anyone be interested in cutting costs? Wrong thread bucko, this thread is how to use as much resources as possible.

[Unregistered7676]

Make sure its including a lot of side street, back road driving. Be sure to speed, and stop for every stop sign, red lite. Maximum wear and tear on the vehicle, and lower fuel economy. You'll get that mpg down to around 5, lower if you run the a/c full blast.
You forgot to include shifting the tranny manually, for both accelerating and braking. Your brakes will last a few days longer, but that pd will be deadlined before 100k.

[tobefrank]

116,000 base pay way too much for a job that most people would take for half that, just look at nyc , starting salary 25,000 and they still get people to take the job, If Nassau county didnt give the police another raise for 10 years they would not have any trouble finding qualified people to fill the ranks !!. The county is killing US, I make 168,000 a year, when I retire I wont
be able to live comfortably on the Island that I grew up on because of the taxes, Look at all the people who have to move when they retire, what a shame. Nassau will continue to give the money away, raise our taxes, instead of stopping the waste.

[Unregistered9999]

116,000 base pay way too much for a job that most people would take for half that, just look at nyc , starting salary 25,000 and they still get people to take the job, If Nassau county didnt give the police another raise for 10 years they would not have any trouble finding qualified people to fill the ranks !!. The county is killing US, I make 168,000 a year, when I retire I wont
be able to live comfortably on the Island that I grew up on because of the taxes, Look at all the people who have to move when they retire, what a shame. Nassau will continue to give the money away, raise our taxes, instead of stopping the waste.


you make $168K? your salary should be cut or you need to be shown the door because someone out there would do your job for a hell of a lot less.

[cutthefat]

you make $168K? your salary should be cut or you need to be shown the door because someone out there would do your job for a hell of a lot less.And he spends more time here then doing his job.

[poor planning]

116,000 base pay way too much for a job that most people would take for half that, just look at nyc , starting salary 25,000 and they still get people to take the job, If Nassau county didnt give the police another raise for 10 years they would not have any trouble finding qualified people to fill the ranks !!. The county is killing US, I make 168,000 a year, when I retire I wont
be able to live comfortably on the Island that I grew up on because of the taxes, Look at all the people who have to move when they retire, what a shame. Nassau will continue to give the money away, raise our taxes, instead of stopping the waste.

1.right. people with criminal records who should not be cops are becoming city cops, therefore they are nt qualified. they are also leaving after a few years to become anything and everything as the pay is equal to most data entry clerk job. the city is losing money hiring new recruits. to be frank, city dets,sgts and lts are taking a pay cut and demotion to work as a cop out here. one they will not recoup until next contract.
2. nassau i believe has a contract for the next 6 years. shortly thereafter they will get thr new contract, based on ours. its will be more. sorry quit dreaming.
3. if you cant live comfortably after retiring, you ther are spending too much or making poor investments. you should have planned better, instead of looking to blame your government. dont forget your other basic needs will continue to rise as well( lipa planning another hike already)
you probably cannot hack it otherwise i'd tell you to take the next pd test.
4. as high as the taxes are, they arent specifically the polices fault. if the 1000-1500 a year you pay your police dept is too much, then you are just getting by. your lipa bill, gasoline used every year, is more then your police taxes. your school taxes are far higher, and there are about the same# of school system employees making over 110k then police officers. And 100s more making over 200.

[tiredofmoaning]

I make 168,000 a year, when I retire I wont
be able to live comfortably on the Island that I grew up on because of the taxes, Look at all the people who have to move when they retire, what a shame. Nassau will continue to give the money away, raise our taxes, instead of stopping the waste.
You have too much shit. Give away your computer, downgrade your car, move to a smaller home etc. Stop using your credit cards. Buy cheaper clothes. Get a 2nd job. Pay off your bills, put the rest into a saving account.
Then try doing some charity work, or give more of your money to those with less.
If you still cant afford it then it wasnt meant to be, stop whining and move on. There are a lot of people who dont make 168,000 and arent complaining about it. And they are doing fine living here in retirement. My grandparents are in thr 80s and living on ss checks. They are doing fine, and didnt make 170k in 8 years, let alone one. No one is feeling sorry for you. The violins are not playing.
Stop thinking only of you, the world doesnt revolve around you.

[BlackSheepOfTheFamily]

fyi to any interested cops, if you cruise all day and hit about 125 miles at 7-8 miles to the gallon you have cost the taxpayers a additional 47.00 a day. Thats 235 a week, 937 a month. and 11250 a year........

News flash, Numbnuts...That's your tax bill going up too...Every damn day you pull this bonehead stunt because you are done playing in pants with yourselfand needed a ego booster...Year after year after year...And that same tax bill that you hiked up...That is paid for by your extended family and friends, too that you just dicked over with your nonsense, you dumb ass moron of a man...And that huge tax burden, you leave that behind for your children...Can Junior and Sissy say "Daddy was an asswipe."

[PO $TARBUCK$]

Excuse me kiddies, time for my latte.

[yeeesh]

News flash, Numbnuts...That's your tax bill going up too...Every damn day you pull this bonehead stunt because you are done playing in pants with yourselfand needed a ego booster...Year after year after year...And that same tax bill that you hiked up...That is paid for by your extended family and friends, too that you just dicked over with your nonsense, you dumb ass moron of a man...And that huge tax burden, you leave that behind for your children...Can Junior and Sissy say "Daddy was an asswipe."
I cant believe anyone needs this explained.......this post was obvious sarcasm, not meant to be believed by anyone with a brain.....Oh wait that explains it.

[mathman]

News flash, Numbnuts...That's your tax bill going up too...Every damn day you pull this bonehead stunt because you are done playing in pants with yourselfand needed a ego booster...Year after year after year...And that same tax bill that you hiked up...That is paid for by your extended family and friends, too that you just dicked over with your nonsense, you dumb ass moron of a man...And that huge tax burden, you leave that behind for your children...Can Junior and Sissy say "Daddy was an asswipe."
Loser. My "kids" are grown. One is a detective in Nassau, the other is married to a sc dep. and works for the suffolk water district. I pay my taxes, 7 or 8 thousand and get 11,000 back in income tax rebates. I dont live within my depts boundaries ther, so the cost doesnt affect me.
So grab your ankles and open wide..................

[Tom1973]

I make 168,000 a year, when I retire I wont
be able to live comfortably on the Island that I grew up on because of the taxes,

Yea ok....btw 68% of your taxes goes to schools.

400K a year Superintendents, $200K principals, and $125K teachers with summers, weekends and all holidays off.

7% of your taxes go to the police.

You would know this if you owned a home.

[wornoutdiatribe]

Yea ok....btw 68% of your taxes goes to schools.

400K a year Superintendents, $200K principals, and $125K teachers with summers, weekends and all holidays off.

7% of your taxes go to the police.

You would know this if you owned a home.
Tom, dont you know every person, all 3 of them, whining about how much we make on here, has everything better then us?
They arent worried about themselves, they are fighting for eveyone else, the little guy. The ones that never post here.
Really
No foolin

[fUuncrketghiesntceprde!d]

Yea ok....btw 68% of your taxes goes to schools.

400K a year Superintendents, $200K principals, and $125K teachers with summers, weekends and all holidays off.

7% of your taxes go to the police.

You would know this if you owned a home.at l they are all educated... and no, i don't mean the 60 credits the ncpd requires from crayola U.

[morelikefantasyman]

Loser. My "kids" are grown. One is a detective in Nassau, the other is married to a sc dep. and works for the suffolk water district. I pay my taxes, 7 or 8 thousand and get 11,000 back in income tax rebates. I dont live within my depts boundaries ther, so the cost doesnt affect me.
So grab your ankles and open wide..................

I would if one word of your post was believable. 11k in rebates. Is that more sarcasm?

[Unregiapril15]

I would if one word of your post was believable. 11k in rebates. Is that more sarcasm?
Yeah thats kind of low, but reading his post he doesnt have children as dependants, probably low interest on his mortage payments. ther that or he does it himself.
Dont be cheap, get a good cpa, its more then worth the 200 you'll put down.(which is deductable as well)

[doesntaddup]

at l they are all educated... and no, i don't mean the 60 credits the ncpd requires from crayola U.And thr education justifies thr salary for 180 days, minus vacation, sick etc?
Perhaps you should work on finishing your education.

[atleast.....]

at l they are all educated... and no, i don't mean the 60 credits the ncpd requires from crayola U.

Oh sure, remember that next time you want to cry about how you cant afford to live on the Island due to high taxes, as you pack your bags and thank the deps for not throwing your stuff in the gutter as they evict you due to foreclosure, " at l those teachers are all educated"...be glad for them and thr education, and the fact that they are set for life. While you arent.
And continue to attempt to look down at us, while you are u-hauling your failed life the phuk out of OUR county.

[best man wins]

How do we have a loser crying on here, playing the sympathy angle about how unfair life is and how hes just eeking by, and within a day, the moron, or one just like him is trying to put us, the ones who arent struggling, and are set for life down?
Just dont get it. Then you wonder why there is no empathy for your plight.

[Achilles]

at l they are all educated... and no, i don't mean the 60 credits the ncpd requires from crayola U.

You know what they say. If you can't do it, teach it. If you can't teach, teach gym. Those guys supervising dodgeball are worth every penny. But hey, they're educated.

[whatdoesitmatter]

You know what they say. If you can't do it, teach it. If you can't teach, teach gym. Those guys supervising dodgeball are worth every penny. But hey, they're educated.
Hey let them enjoy paying those educated people, let them enjoy it all the way off the Island. Hell, let em hate paying us and our lower taxes. Does it really matter? No. Nor does a simple concept like logic. Bottom line, county village town cops will be here, will rtre and live here if we choose to. We arent worried ther way. Makes me think about investing in a moving company.
The word helpless comes to mind.

[Tom1973]

at l they are all educated... and no, i don't mean the 60 credits the ncpd requires from crayola U.

A monkey could get a degree in Education. Most cops in NC/SC have a BA or higher. They have to go get ptomoted. Teachers are paid over 100K to work 2/3 of the year.

[ffUnregistered]

A monkey could get a degree in Education. Most cops in NC/SC have a BA or higher. They have to go get ptomoted. Teachers are paid over 100K to work 2/3 of the year.

Seems like you're just jealous of teachers.

[Unjealous]

Seems like you're just jealous of teachers.Hes jealous of teachers, because he is telling you where the majority of your money is going? And when you leave the Island because you cant afford to live here, you'll have a realistic answer as to why.
So lets see, tom is bashing teachers and bng called jealous, and the rest of the posts here are bashing cops, which must mean what we've known all along, those posting here are jealous of cops. Specifically L.I. cops who make more and have more then them. And dont ever HAVE to move.

[help me i po]

These days, food pantries aren't just for the jobless or homeless.

Tapping such free resources has turned into a survival tactic for some working members of the middle class as they struggle with an economy that has put them in a bind.

A father of three, Bill makes more than $70,000 a year. But after his mortgage rate reset in October, hiking his payments from $3,300 to $4,300, he began going to his church's food pantry.

"I sat here at home and argued with my wife about who's going," said Bill, a Nassau County employee who asked not to be identified further. "I tried to go to work that day. ... It's very embarrassing.



Related links
What's putting the pinch on consumers?
"Here I'm making a decent salary. I'm a professional, but I can't even feed my kids."

More and more working Long Islanders are straining to put groceries on the table as many essentials -- milk and bread, fuel oil, gasoline and health care premiums -- have climbed faster than the Consumer Price Index. In some cases, they're people daunted by the steep rise in property taxes or payments on thr adjustable-rate mortgages.

These new hard times have turned some past donors into today's recvers of charity. The number of people seeking help is up even as donations are down. Food collected from restaurants and supermarkets by the Mineola-based Island Harvest dropped from 7 million pounds in 2006 to 6.5 million last year, and the agency has started pressing more farmers to help fill the hole.

While no agency keeps statistics for food pantries across Long Island, some operators find they're facing double the number of clients from a year ago.

"We're seng folks that may own a home, who may be working two or three jobs, but are not able to cover all the costs that they've incurred," said Gwen O'Shea, president of the Health and Welfare Council of Long Island, a social services advocacy group.

The Long Island Council of Churches, which shut down its Riverhead pantry one day in January because it was empty, finds people arriving in more desperate straits. "The big growth is not in the suddenly unemployed," said its executive director, the Rev. Thomas Goodhue. "The big growth is in the employed who can't make ends meet and the retirees who can't make ends meet."

Thr last resort Nonprofit officials and directors of church social ministries interviewed said they know of people who cry before walking into pantries. Or they drive round and round the block, building up the nerve to go in. Few of the working people who've come to rely on the pantries wanted thr last names revealed.

Anne, 37, a single mother of two who said she is a salaried "middle-income" legal assistant, said she began seeking help from St. Frances de Chantal Roman Catholic Church in Wantagh less than two years ago, when her 3.5 percent pay increase was outpaced by gas hikes and rent on her two-bedroom apartment. Her ex-husband had stopped paying child support.

One day, she said, she didn't have a dime toward diapers for her daughter. That's when her resolve not to ask for charity broke.

"It was horrible," she recalled. "I felt like my world had crashed, but I had to do what I could to support the children. There were weeks when I didn't have any money."

Lately, Anne's been part of Single Moms on Long Island, a support group that also arranges activities for children. And she's found a Web site listing places where kids eat free -- which is how she arranged for her son to celebrate his birthday earlier this month, at Friendly's.
Nonprofit officials said the long-term solution is moving people off emergency food and onto government programs, such as the food stamp program and HEAP, the government Home Energy Assistance Program that helps pay for oil.

But many of the middle class make too much to qualify for such programs.

"They come in here for immediate emergency resources, but the reality is where are they going to be in another six months?" Health and Welfare Council's O'Shea said. "The picture is not good."


Officials at Bay Shore-based Pronto, a social services agency, have noticed an increase in clients with college degrees, white-collar jobs or higher salaries -- economic refugees of foreclosures, gas prices and oil bills.

One of them is Edward Mott of Bay Shore, a Long Island Power Authority grounds foreman who is on disability after a 5,000-pound cherry tree fell on him. His wife works two jobs and her earnings, with his disability benefits, don't cover the $2,600 monthly mortgage and cost of groceries.

"We bring in over $40,000, and we still can't afford to give our daughter what she needs for school," said Mott, 50. "To survive on Long Island these days, you have to make at l $1,000 a week. Otherwise, you have no business bng here anymore."

Taking charity can feel lousy, some food pantry customers said. "It's not the best feeling in the world, especially for someone who's working," said Laura, 37, who every once in a while takes a jar of peanut butter or jelly from the food pantry at the Hampton Bays nonprofit where she works as a secretary.

By comparison, she said, her parents never asked for free food, no matter how desperate they were when business at thr gas station went dead in winter. "My parents would have a can of soup, and we would split that to eat," she said.

Laura's plight worsened six months ago, when she and her husband separated and she was left with thr four children, including a daughter who has severe scoliosis and is on a 24-hour feeding tube. Laura wants to refinance her 6-year-old mortgage, but the subprime collapse and falling property values have made it hard to get a new loan.

Now she's trying to meet a $1,863 monthly payment with her salary, child support and the benefits for her disabled daughter. "It's really sad," she said. "You're working on Long Island and it's hard to make it out here. ...

"I'm looking for a philanthropist to come in and save me," she said, laughing.

Anne, the single mom, cringes when she thinks of going to the church for help -- but that very help has kept her world from collapsing.

"It's allowed me to put gas in my car. It's allowed me to pay my electric bill," she said. "I'm happy that they're there to help, but I have so much pride that I feel disgraced. I feel like I've been reduced to nothing."



Nonprofit officials and directors of church social ministries interviewed said they know of people who cry before walking into pantries. Or they drive round and round the block, building up the nerve to go in. Few of the working people who've come to rely on the pantries wanted thr last names revealed.

Anne, 37, a single mother of two who said she is a salaried "middle-income" legal assistant, said she began seeking help from St. Frances de Chantal Roman Catholic Church in Wantagh less than two years ago, when her 3.5 percent pay increase was outpaced by gas hikes and rent on her two-bedroom apartment. Her ex-husband had stopped paying child support.

One day, she said, she didn't have a dime toward diapers for her daughter. That's when her resolve not to ask for charity broke.

"It was horrible," she recalled. "I felt like my world had crashed, but I had to do what I could to support the children. There were weeks when I didn't have any money."

Lately, Anne's been part of Single Moms on Long Island, a support group that also arranges activities for children. And she's found a Web site listing places where kids eat free -- which is how she arranged for her son to celebrate his birthday earlier this month, at Friendly's.

Priced out for help

Nonprofit officials said the long-term solution is moving people off emergency food and onto government programs, such as the food stamp program and HEAP, the government Home Energy Assistance Program that helps pay for oil.

But many of the middle class make too much to qualify for such programs.

"They come in here for immediate emergency resources, but the reality is where are they going to be in another six months?" Health and Welfare Council's O'Shea said. "The picture is not good."

[help me i po]

Reading the article it states rising milk and bread, fuel oil, gasoline and health care premiums and the steep rise in property taxes or payments on thr adjustable-rate mortgages are among the main issues. Not thr police taxes, which is Suffolk remain unchanged, and in Nassau probably has risen slightly from last year to this year, but certainly less then your school taxes. Hell certainly less the the cost of home heating oil, gasoline, etc.
Hey I know we are a easy punching bag, we will always have a salary that allows us to live comfortably. We work near a skanky area, where there is a higher concentration of people and more crime, and lower paying Law enforcement jobs( nypd make what our corrections make, without the corrections o/t).
The question is are we the right punching bag? The answer is no. The 600-1200 a year you spend a year on police taxes are not the the issue forcing you off the Island.

[notquite]

Hes jealous of teachers, because he is telling you where the majority of your money is going? And when you leave the Island because you cant afford to live here, you'll have a realistic answer as to why.
So lets see, tom is bashing teachers and bng called jealous, and the rest of the posts here are bashing cops, which must mean what we've known all along, those posting here are jealous of cops. Specifically L.I. cops who make more and have more then them. And dont ever HAVE to move.

No, Tom just seemed jealous that teachers only work 2/3 of the year to make 100k. So he made the wrong career choice, so what?

[Dumb People]

What the average dumb azz taxpayer, (jealous of the PO's), on here doesn't realise is that for every minute the economy gets worse, the average Police Officer's life, job security, and income only gets BETTER! We do well when others are not, when the sh!t hits the fan, we get payed to respond and stay longer, it's called OVERTIME, yes OVERTIME. It rains down heavily whenever there is economic distress, because more of you people decide to go out and grab something you WANT but cant afford. I enjoyed the newsday article a lot, but I'm also not buying it. Half the people lining up for welfare, Medicaid, free Government subsidies, rent money, food pantries, etc. are driving SUV's and late model full size cars! What does that tell you? They don't need these bigs cars and trucks, but they LIKE THEM! No sympathy here my friend. Stopped too many morons with fresh Social Services paperwork on the seat next to them, or better yet, a nice fat DSS check in thr pocketbook, driving an SUV, with a $5000. stereo, and at l $5000. in Gold chains dangling around thr necks to EVER feel sorry for them again. I know there's a small number out there, (elderly, infirm, etc.) that really need our help, but the system is so azz backward right now that I fear 85-90% of the aid doled out goes to fakers, lairs, and all around thieves!

Sorry, no sympathy left at this time!

[gravity]

No, Tom just seemed jealous that teachers only work 2/3 of the year to make 100k. So he made the wrong career choice, so what?
Yeah sure. Hes jealous of teacher because he works a few more weeks then they do, but makes a few grand more.
But all the trolls whining on here about cops arent making shit, compared to him, and work more then he does.
So they are jealous of tom. and the rest of us

[set4life]

But the real difference, "tom" isnt trolling a teachers site, whining about how unfair thr work schedule is.
All you skels and trash trolling a police site cant say the same.
Oh while you are at it whine about my lifetime bennies for me and mine, my pension, my scat checks, never having to worry about a traffic ticket, the fact that my house alarm is handled like a priority, how my union has gotten me a discount card good at about 500 stores.
Start now. I need the laughs.

[Uthink..]

But the real difference, "tom" isnt trolling a teachers site, whining about how unfair thr work schedule is.
All you skels and trash trolling a police site cant say the same.
Oh while you are at it whine about my lifetime bennies for me and mine, my pension, my scat checks, never having to worry about a traffic ticket, the fact that my house alarm is handled like a priority, how my union has gotten me a discount card good at about 500 stores.
Start now. I need the laughs.

Do you think teachers don't have bennies and pensions as well? LOL! Work day ends at 3, too.

[the zhuzh]

Do you think teachers don't have bennies and pensions as well? LOL! Work day ends at 3, too.
you still dont get it, we arent comparing ourselves to teachers, but to the folks posting here without anything.
Our workday doesnt end at 3, but we get night differential and o/t.

[mootpoint]

What the current obsession the trolls have with teachers? It doesnt matter you aint one, and if you are crying about how rough you have it, you are in no position to make any comparisons

[you missed the point]

What the current obsession the trolls have with teachers? It doesnt matter you aint one, and if you are crying about how rough you have it, you are in no position to make any comparisons

That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying teachers have it better than you. Good luck working nights, weekends, holidays, summers, etc. Also, if you think you have job security, try tenure! Sorry, Tom.

[Unregisteredzzz]

That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying teachers have it better than you. Good luck working nights, weekends, holidays, summers, etc. Also, if you think you have job security, try tenure! Sorry, Tom.No, you've missed the point completely. We arent comparing teachers to cops. A troll threw that in to stir shit up a bit. It aint working.
Teachers will be here, we will be here, the losers crying about how hard they have it wont.
No one is going to bite sorry.

[Troll Patrol]

I think the guy acting for the teachers in last few posts is in fact the troll. These muts are sick man, they come on here just to get a rise out of anybody, it's all fun and games, don't try to give serious responses to these idiots on here. Roll with it, tell them about the scat checks, etc. It just pisses them off. This guy probably works in some demeaning job with little or no positive cash flow and with very little respect otherwise. His old lady is probably looking for greener pastures on a regular basis, (maybe even with a cop), and his kids are all f+cked up because he isnt the stellar parent he wants to be. Oh well, clevis back to the gas station for you! Change the oil on my new Vette, then I'll b!tch to your boss that you got oil on my floor mats and make you clean then off in front me - ouch!

[the zhuzh]

That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying teachers have it better than you. Good luck working nights, weekends, holidays, summers, etc. Also, if you think you have job security, try tenure! Sorry, Tom.
This is like the guy with the 00 saturn he bought used and is in arrears on his payments mocking his nghbors 08 bmw because it doesnt have heated seats like his other nghbors 08 e class.
Dont worry about us. Dont worry about teachers. We are fine. Worry about yourself. And your taxes, Levy is losing big time in arbitration.

[Unregisteredirjhgodsfl]

This is like the guy with the 00 saturn he bought used and is in arrears on his payments mocking his nghbors 08 bmw because it doesnt have heated seats like his other nghbors 08 e class.
Dont worry about us. Dont worry about teachers. We are fine. Worry about yourself. And your taxes, Levy is losing big time in arbitration.

Yeah, that will happen! Wake up -ickwad, Levy is going to bury the POlice in arbitration.

[im buried]

Yeah, that will happen! Wake up -ickwad, Levy is going to bury the POlice in arbitration.
yup just like tommy terrific did in Nassau. buried in a 4% per for 6 years.....ouch. That must hurt. 24% pay raise. Oh stop burying me stevie you asswipe

[rather be a teacher]

A monkey could get a degree in Education. Most cops in NC/SC have a BA or higher. They have to go get ptomoted. Teachers are paid over 100K to work 2/3 of the year.

Who's the one stirring the sh*t?

[Tom1973]

Seems like you're just jealous of teachers.

Nope...just upset 68% of my taxes get pissed on a joke where you work 2/3 of the year.

[Tom1973]

Also, if you think you have job security, try tenure! Sorry, Tom.

Until you get caught dating a 15 year old like many teachers do. Goodbye tenure!

[Unregistered72]

Nope...just upset 68% of my taxes get pissed on a joke where you work 2/3 of the year.

Teachers in NY have to get a Masters degree to keep thr certification. With a Masters degree in, say, accounting, you will progress to much higher salaries than a teacher. You will be making 100g in about 5 years if you play your cards right, and CFO's for companies on LI make over 200G easily.

So, a teacher making 85g after 10 years with an advanced degree..sorry, there's nothing outrageous about that at all, in the real world. Pro-rate that to a full year, and they're making the equivalent of 100g per yer in 10 years with an advanced degree...again, not outrageous. Again, if it was so easy, why aren't you doing it? There's no age limit for you to get a teaching degree.

[do-the-math]

Teachers in NY have to get a Masters degree to keep thr certification. With a Masters degree in, say, accounting, you will progress to much higher salaries than a teacher. You will be making 100g in about 5 years if you play your cards right, and CFO's for companies on LI make over 200G easily.

So, a teacher making 85g after 10 years with an advanced degree..sorry, there's nothing outrageous about that at all, in the real world. Pro-rate that to a full year, and they're making the equivalent of 100g per yer in 10 years with an advanced degree...again, not outrageous. Again, if it was so easy, why aren't you doing it? There's no age limit for you to get a teaching degree.

Because I made 85 k in year 2 of scpd, and havent made less then 100k since. Last year I made 135 k Why would I want to downgrade?

[bestoboth]

Teachers in NY have to get a Masters degree to keep thr certification. With a Masters degree in, say, accounting, you will progress to much higher salaries than a teacher. You will be making 100g in about 5 years if you play your cards right, and CFO's for companies on LI make over 200G easily.

So, a teacher making 85g after 10 years with an advanced degree..sorry, there's nothing outrageous about that at all, in the real world. Pro-rate that to a full year, and they're making the equivalent of 100g per yer in 10 years with an advanced degree...again, not outrageous. Again, if it was so easy, why aren't you doing it? There's no age limit for you to get a teaching degree.
Heres what I'll do for you my friend. I am 33 y/o with 8 years on scpd, plus my military time. I have my bachelors degree. When I retire, whether after another 10 w/ military buy back or I stick it out for a full 20, around year 15 I will go back to school and get my degree for teaching. Then I'll work as a substitute until I retire. After I retire I'll go into teaching full time.
Now you will be paying me my military pension, police pension, and teachers salary.
Thats assuming you are still on the island, paying taxes. Which I doubt. Thats the original point. Teachers will be here making thr salaries, cops will be here making thrs, You wont be able to cut it.

[Run262]

We have a SCPD police car park at our volly FD house every night. It's locked up because there's no one to drive it and the precinct refuses to staff it with overtime. My precinct locks up 3 cars every midnight tour for the same reasons. The cars are not taken from bad areas of town cause of priority assignments. They're withdrawn from good areas. The same areas where some guy whined about slow response to his false burglar alarm.

You're getting what you asked for. Less cops, but lengthly delays to calls. Chicago PD doesn't respond to any house alarms. That hard choice should be next for Levy.

[dsafs]

Im 22 yrs old, and after reading many of the posts here, you cops are obviously in a lose lose situation. If cops are keeping to themselves and primarily just responding to calls and blatant forms of deviance, they are slackers and wasting "tax payer's" money. If cops pull you over for a cell phone, turn signal, stop sign, etc, you cry like babies and say "all that money and cops have nothing better to do". Police get paid based on waht they might have to do. IF there not busy, that means crime is low...you should be happy. Its like workin in an ER, its not the doctor's fault is no one is hurt at that particular moment.

[non-call alarm]

We have a SCPD police car park at our volly FD house every night. It's locked up because there's no one to drive it and the precinct refuses to staff it with overtime. My precinct locks up 3 cars every midnight tour for the same reasons. The cars are not taken from bad areas of town cause of priority assignments. They're withdrawn from good areas. The same areas where some guy whined about slow response to his false burglar alarm.

You're getting what you asked for. Less cops, but lengthly delays to calls. Chicago PD doesn't respond to any house alarms. That hard choice should be next for Levy.

Anyone read where new procedure for unfounded alarms( any alarm not resulting in a crime) is a 10-60( for the non scpd a 10-60 in the dept eye is a non-call, never happened, no paperwork or police action) See how they take the alarms? They dont even want to consider it a call.

[Unregistered123]

Anyone read where new procedure for unfounded alarms( any alarm not resulting in a crime) is a 10-60( for the non scpd a 10-60 in the dept eye is a non-call, never happened, no paperwork or police action) See how they take the alarms? They dont even want to consider it a call.

Does that mean that no stats are going to be kept on false alarms?

[Unregistered1060]

DON"T 10-60!!! Delegates should have told you that.

[Unregistered73]

DON"T 10-60!!! Delegates should have told you that.i agree, but I believe the dispatchers are going to mark it that way anyway as per the new order

[Tom1973]

Teachers in NY have to get a Masters degree to keep thr certification. With a Masters degree in, say, accounting, you will progress to much higher salaries than a teacher. You will be making 100g in about 5 years if you play your cards right, and CFO's for companies on LI make over 200G easily.

So, a teacher making 85g after 10 years with an advanced degree..sorry, there's nothing outrageous about that at all, in the real world. Pro-rate that to a full year, and they're making the equivalent of 100g per yer in 10 years with an advanced degree...again, not outrageous. Again, if it was so easy, why aren't you doing it? There's no age limit for you to get a teaching degree.

Let's be serious here...its a Masters Degree in Education where half the courses are basket weaving and home econimics courses. Teachers are making 100K for only working 2/3 of the year if you add up the days off for the ENTIRE SUMMER...WEEKENDS... and HOLIDAYS.

Lets not forget the Superintendents making 300-440K a year and all thr assistants and vice principals pulling down 125K - 250K. Last but not l you have clerical staff makinmg 85K a year to do paperwork!

There are too many teachers and people working in the schools for them to all earn such high salaries.

68% of my taxes goes to school districts only 7% goes to the police. Do the math! We can't afford it.

You became a teacher because you want to help children correct? Not to get rich on the backs of the taxpayers.

[Harry's Place]

A Masters Degree can be only 30 credits above my stupid BS Degree, which I got without even studying. If I had a relative in a LI school district I would be assured a teaching spot. No civil service pre-entry testing, background investigation including a polygraph, medical/ physical, sworn oath of office, or code of ethics. But lots of whining.

[Unregistered72]

A Masters Degree can be only 30 credits above my stupid BS Degree, which I got without even studying. If I had a relative in a LI school district I would be assured a teaching spot. No civil service pre-entry testing, background investigation including a polygraph, medical/ physical, sworn oath of office, or code of ethics. But lots of whining.

Glass houses, knucklehead. Glass houses.

[Unregistered323]

Anyone read where new procedure for unfounded alarms( any alarm not resulting in a crime) is a 10-60( for the non scpd a 10-60 in the dept eye is a non-call, never happened, no paperwork or police action) See how they take the alarms? They dont even want to consider it a call.

Another example of idiots running an idiotic police department. What the heck is wrong with giving it back as a false alarm? That is what happened, wasn't it? If it isn't a call then I guess you don't have to respond to a 10-72 - it never happened.

[rather be a teach]

Let's be serious here...its a Masters Degree in Education where half the courses are basket weaving and home econimics courses. Teachers are making 100K for only working 2/3 of the year if you add up the days off for the ENTIRE SUMMER...WEEKENDS... and HOLIDAYS.

Lets not forget the Superintendents making 300-440K a year and all thr assistants and vice principals pulling down 125K - 250K. Last but not l you have clerical staff makinmg 85K a year to do paperwork!

There are too many teachers and people working in the schools for them to all earn such high salaries.

68% of my taxes goes to school districts only 7% goes to the police. Do the math! We can't afford it.

You became a teacher because you want to help children correct? Not to get rich on the backs of the taxpayers.


Became a teacher for the exact reasons you outlined. A much, much better career path than police.

[sure thang]

Became a teacher for the exact reasons you outlined. A much, much better career path than police.And you are trolling here? lol Nothing better to do? I dont go to teacher webboards and brag how bng a cop is better then teaching in my opinion.

[Unregistered72]

Let's be serious here...its a Masters Degree in Education where half the courses are basket weaving and home econimics courses. Teachers are making 100K for only working 2/3 of the year if you add up the days off for the ENTIRE SUMMER...WEEKENDS... and HOLIDAYS.

Lets not forget the Superintendents making 300-440K a year and all thr assistants and vice principals pulling down 125K - 250K. Last but not l you have clerical staff makinmg 85K a year to do paperwork!

There are too many teachers and people working in the schools for them to all earn such high salaries.

68% of my taxes goes to school districts only 7% goes to the police. Do the math! We can't afford it.

You became a teacher because you want to help children correct? Not to get rich on the backs of the taxpayers.

Education classes aren't rocket science, but they aren't basket weaving ther. Criminal Justice..now that's basket weaving.

Think about it this way folks...you'll pay at l $200 a week to have someone watch your kid. If you have 2 kids, that a lot more than most people on LI are paying in taxes.

[thinkaboutthis]

Education classes aren't rocket science, but they aren't basket weaving ther. Criminal Justice..now that's basket weaving.

Think about it this way folks...you'll pay at l $200 a week to have someone watch your kid. If you have 2 kids, that a lot more than most people on LI are paying in taxes.
If I watch my kids or my wife does, its free. Thats your best rationale? You are cheaper then a babysitter? Not the supposed high level of education, etc?
Just that at minimum we know where they are? Not they are safer with you then a babysitter who may be a child-molester? Oh wait, you guys do that too.

[Unregistered72]

If I watch my kids or my wife does, its free. Thats your best rationale? You are cheaper then a babysitter? Not the supposed high level of education, etc?
Just that at minimum we know where they are? Not they are safer with you then a babysitter who may be a child-molester? Oh wait, you guys do that too.

Right a couple of bad apples=all teachers are child molesters. Under that rationale, all cops are drunks, drug dealers, and railroad innocent citizens to make careers for themselves.... Brilliant.

The point about the babysitting was...if you make more than $5 an hour and you have kids, school taxes, even at LI rates, are a bargain.

[Achilles]

The point about the babysitting was...if you make more than $5 an hour and you have kids, school taxes, even at LI rates, are a bargain.

You can't be serious!?!? Possibly the most outrageous comment I have ever read. When someone is in the housing market they ask about the school taxes. They can determine whether or not the house is affordable. No one asks about thr police tax. Compared to the school tax bill police taxes are inconsequential. I could pay another mortgage with my school tax.

[no udidnt]

Right a couple of bad apples=all teachers are child molesters. Under that rationale, all cops are drunks, drug dealers, and railroad innocent citizens to make careers for themselves.... Brilliant.

The point about the babysitting was...if you make more than $5 an hour and you have kids, school taxes, even at LI rates, are a bargain.
So you arent teaching them anything. Just babysitting? Wonderful
And as far as drunks, drug dealers, and scammers teachers do that too. In higher #s then cops.

[Unherewegoagain.]

Once again sheer amazement that a supposed teacher is posting on here, incredibly just as a discussion started out about which job is better.
Just like when cpas were discussed, or med school, or npyd, or....you get it?
I dont go trolling teacher sites, if they exist. Yet you are here trying to defend/ justify your job. And convince us you have a better job. Right there you've lost.
I've never heard of a suffolk or nassau cop quitting to become a teacher, yet in my orientation, which is prior to the background investigation, there were at l 10 teachers. In my academy class there were 2, one with tenure. Hell one of the academy staff was a gym teacher.
Must be a reason.

[Unregistered72]

Once again sheer amazement that a supposed teacher is posting on here, incredibly just as a discussion started out about which job is better.
Just like when cpas were discussed, or med school, or npyd, or....you get it?
I dont go trolling teacher sites, if they exist. Yet you are here trying to defend/ justify your job. And convince us you have a better job. Right there you've lost.
I've never heard of a suffolk or nassau cop quitting to become a teacher, yet in my orientation, which is prior to the background investigation, there were at l 10 teachers. In my academy class there were 2, one with tenure. Hell one of the academy staff was a gym teacher.
Must be a reason.


Who said they were a teacher?
Perhaps someone KNOWS a teacher or is very close to one in the same way they know cops....

They both have thr benefits. And this website is open to the public. It does not say "a place for Long Island Police to stroke each others egos and/or bitch about thr co-workers or complain about losing some ridiculous duty they never should have had in the first place", although a few of you guys seem to think that's what it is. :rolleyes:

[typical.....]

Who said they were a teacher?
Perhaps someone KNOWS a teacher or is very close to one in the same way they know cops....

They both have thr benefits. And this website is open to the public. It does not say "a place for Long Island Police to stroke each others egos and/or bitch about thr co-workers or complain about losing some ridiculous duty they never should have had in the first place", although a few of you guys seem to think that's what it is. :rolleyes:

Ahh a outsider looking up at the penthouse
You may not have said you are a teacher, but you stated "
Education classes aren't rocket science, but they aren't basket weaving ther." So ther you are a teacher or you are talking about something you know nothing about. Did the teacher you know tell you that? Doesnt mean its hard for everyone.
THIS THREAD restarted due to a troll whining about his poor place in the world. Suddenly some idiot throws in a teachers job like its golden compared to cops. I guess to put cops in thr place. Didnt work.
Then a person posts saying they are a teacher "for all the reasons you outlined" in repsonse to another post. Now the truth is known. Typical troll horseshit. You want to talk about teaching jobs, go find a thread. This thread is about people who arent teachers. Not how ok thr job is.

[Unregisteredhere]

Once again sheer amazement that a supposed teacher is posting on here, incredibly just as a discussion started out about which job is better.
Just like when cpas were discussed, or med school, or npyd, or....you get it?
I dont go trolling teacher sites, if they exist. Yet you are here trying to defend/ justify your job. And convince us you have a better job. Right there you've lost.
I've never heard of a suffolk or nassau cop quitting to become a teacher, yet in my orientation, which is prior to the background investigation, there were at l 10 teachers. In my academy class there were 2, one with tenure. Hell one of the academy staff was a gym teacher.
Must be a reason.

Exactly. They come here to attack us. not vice versa. I'm not on a teachers website trying to compare myself to them. I dont want to be a teacher, and thr salary doesnt make me so insecure that I have to try to bash them every chance I get. Hell, they have a nice life, good for them.
Or I do not want to post sounding kinda like a teacher, then back down as soon as I'm called out.
sounds like a headcase full of insecurity. Get even here on this board wow. REally changes things in reality huh?

[not-even-close]

Once again sheer amazement that a supposed teacher is posting on here, incredibly just as a discussion started out about which job is better.
Just like when cpas were discussed, or med school, or npyd, or....you get it?
I dont go trolling teacher sites, if they exist. Yet you are here trying to defend/ justify your job. And convince us you have a better job. Right there you've lost.
I've never heard of a suffolk or nassau cop quitting to become a teacher, yet in my orientation, which is prior to the background investigation, there were at l 10 teachers. In my academy class there were 2, one with tenure. Hell one of the academy staff was a gym teacher.
Must be a reason.
Way to end this monkeyshit.

[not-even-close]

Just like when cpas were discussed, or med school, or npyd, or....you get it?
I dont go trolling teacher sites, if they exist. Yet you are here trying to defend/ justify your job. And convince us you have a better job. Right there you've lost.





Who said they were a teacher?
Perhaps someone KNOWS a teacher or is very close to one in the same way they know cops....

They both have thr benefits. And this website is open to the public. It does not say "a place for Long Island Police to stroke each others egos and/or bitch about thr co-workers or complain about losing some ridiculous duty they never should have had in the first place", although a few of you guys seem to think that's what it is. :rolleyes:
Then that someone is a bigger idiot then if he was a teacher trolling here. Worry about yourself and dont respond you are doing fine you arent fooling anyone.

[the zhuzh]

When will you guys learn, no matter what the topic, there will be one opposing voice, defending whoever isnt a cop, no matter how illogical the defense is.
He wants to love paying 5k a year for a "babysitter" in his school taxes and hate paying his police taxes blaming them for all his financial woes.
God bless him.

[Tom1973]

A Masters Degree can be only 30 credits above my stupid BS Degree, which I got without even studying. If I had a relative in a LI school district I would be assured a teaching spot. No civil service pre-entry testing, background investigation including a polygraph, medical/ physical, sworn oath of office, or code of ethics. But lots of whining.

That's why so many LI teachers are locked up. They need a real background, mandatory drug testing, and polygraph as well as a major reduction in pay for only working 2/3 of the year.

[fractioner]

That's why so many LI teachers are locked up. They need a real background, mandatory drug testing, and polygraph as well as a major reduction in pay for only working 2/3 of the year.
2/3s???? You are giving them too much credit. School is in session less the 1/2 the year. Throw in thr sick and other time off....its closer to 3/8s.

[may moore]

2/3s???? You are giving them too much credit. School is in session less the 1/2 the year. Throw in thr sick and other time off....its closer to 3/8s.


You're so jealous it's disgusting.

[Unregistereduh]

You're so jealous it's disgusting.They are jealous of everyone, thats why they are trolling here. Lets face it most trolls wouldnt know what to do if this site shut down. How they going to mess with the po-po

[fractioner]

You're so jealous it's disgusting.
Who me? No just stating the facts. Hey bless them let them get whatever they can. Isnt that the American way? How can I complain when last year I made over 120k as a cop.
Besides, I can afford my taxes. The original issue was our taxes and the effect the police taxes were having on some citizens quality of life, and ability to remain in the county he was raised in. The argument put forward, that you pay at l 2x your police taxes in school taxes. That there is a incredible amount of waste, redundancy and administrative jobs sucking you dry in the schools. All of l.i. has 3 or 4 million less children then nyc yet there are about 300 more admin positions making in excess of 200,000. That if you cannot afford to live here, or live a quality life with some of the finer things you'd like to, you should look at your school districts 1st.
Somewhere the topic of salaries were introduced. I'm fine with teachers making whatever they make. They are teaching our kids. Does a superintendant really earn a 350k salary? Or his brother in law deserve 85k as a engineer to change lightbulbs and call the principals uncles plumming service everytime a kid stuffs a roll of toilet paper in the toilet? Its the rest of the costs of running a school district that should be addressed.
Wasnt there fairly recently a few school admin convicted of embezzling millions of dollars? Yet those schools didnt miss the money. They didnt fall into arrears, or have to cut services. Therefore you have to wonder how vital the missing money really was.

[Unfractioner]

Who me? No just stating the facts. Hey bless them let them get whatever they can. Isnt that the American way? How can I complain when last year I made over 120k as a cop.
Besides, I can afford my taxes. The original issue was our taxes and the effect the police taxes were having on some citizens quality of life, and ability to remain in the county he was raised in. The argument put forward, that you pay at l 2x your police taxes in school taxes. That there is a incredible amount of waste, redundancy and administrative jobs sucking you dry in the schools. All of l.i. has 3 or 4 million less children then nyc yet there are about 300 more admin positions making in excess of 200,000. That if you cannot afford to live here, or live a quality life with some of the finer things you'd like to, you should look at your school districts 1st.
Somewhere the topic of salaries were introduced. I'm fine with teachers making whatever they make. They are teaching our kids. Does a superintendant really earn a 350k salary? Or his brother in law deserve 85k as a engineer to change lightbulbs and call the principals uncles plumming service everytime a kid stuffs a roll of toilet paper in the toilet? Its the rest of the costs of running a school district that should be addressed.
Wasnt there fairly recently a few school admin convicted of embezzling millions of dollars? Yet those schools didnt miss the money. They didnt fall into arrears, or have to cut services. Therefore you have to wonder how vital the missing money really was.


Pay ur taxes.

[ritebakatcha]

Pay ur taxes.likewise