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Freedom
09-15-2003, 02:52 PM
However, what do we do about it?

One thing we can do is not vote for Democrats.

But what else can we do?
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Reality
09-15-2003, 03:35 PM
The astronomical cost of healthcare insurance is hurting the average taxpaying family person in this country. While a lot of people are blaming it on doctors and insurance companies, it is time we looked at the real cause of ridiculous health insurance premiums. The real culprits? Lawyers.

Doctors charge more because they are forced to pay enormous sums of money for malpractice insurance. Many pay more than $100,000. per year! To avoid bng sued, doctors now must order expensive tests for everything imaginable just to cover thr asses. If you go to the doctor for a cold, chances are you'll have a chest x-ray and a urine and blood workup. If it's anything more serious than that, you will go for umpteen unnecessary tests. Even doctors admit that most of the tests they order are unnecessary, and are only ordered to cover the "what if", million to one, worst case scenario. It is the lawyers, with thr multi-million dollar lawsuits that have forced doctors to practice defensive medicine. In so doing, the lawyers have directly caused much of the surge in health insurance premiums.

Granted, there are a few doctors out there who deserve to be sued, but for the most part, there should be a cap placed on the amount of damages paid to litigants unless the incident is totally egregious in nature. Doctors cannot cure everyone, and it is the nature of medicine that not all will be cured. Awards of millions of dollars for insignificant injury are not uncommon, as juries are nororiously free with insurance dollars. Many judges just shake thr heads in amazement at some of the awards. There are too many people in our society (lawyers included) looking to get rich by bringing lawsuits against the medical profession. It is time for something to be done about it, before the average family can't afford health care coverage at all.

The lawyers will all whine, saying that people should be justly compensated for thr "injury", when in fact it is thr own pockets they are looking out for. There should be an unbiased arbitration panel set up to mediate most incidents, and only those incidents that are caused by incompetence, outright negligence or intentional acts should be brought to trial. It is time for reform, but somehow I doubt our weak-kneed politicians (many of whom are lawyers) will ever do anything to remedy the situation. Such is politics in America.
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What else can we do?
09-16-2003, 09:43 PM
you are no libertarian.

We are fighting WWIII on multiple fronts and Bush is doing a damn good job. You are intellectually dishonest to say he is the worst president.

NONE of the dem pres wannabees could even come close to defending our country.

Bush is not perfect, but the dem candidates don't even come close.

wookibender
09-16-2003, 10:20 PM
Quote:Bush is doing a damn good job. You are intellectually dishonest to say he is the worst president.
Can you please elaborate on this?

Why is Bush doing a damn good job? Please provide some reasoning? I really would like to know this.

I have been asking this question in countless threads and cannot get a solid answer from anyone. This is a Republican forum full of Bush supporters and no one can tell me anything good this guy is doing.
If you can't back it up with any statements then how can we even take you seriously?
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yeah but
09-16-2003, 11:19 PM
Wookibender, can we take you seriously? I'm sure you can find something to support Bush all by yourself.

I will help you out a little bit by telling you to go to the Bureau of Labor statistics where you will find that hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs were lost BEFORE Bush took office.

The recession started BEFORE Bush took office.

In my own words why I personally like Bush:

No attacks on our soil since 9/11. Yeah Bush!

The economy is turning around. Yeah Bush!

Love those tax cuts. Yeah Bush!

Honesty, morality and dignity back in the Whitehouse. Yeah Bush!

Pro-life. Yeah Bush!

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WantaghDem
09-17-2003, 11:23 AM
"NONE of the dem pres wannabees could even come close to defending our country."

Oh, really? Not a decorated Vietnam Veteran? Not the former Supreme Allied Commander, North Atlantic Treaty Organization?

You better read your memo from Frank Luntz...the right is to cease and desist all references to Bush's "military might" - it will cost you the election!

....and the "no attacks on our soil since 9/11" is not only fallacious, it's like saying, "yes, I burned down your house, I killed your pets, and I totalled your cars....but I haven't destroyed anything of yours in the last twelve minutes!"
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Purity
09-17-2003, 11:31 AM
Quote:Honesty, morality and dignity back in the Whitehouse.

I did't know Bush resigned. I'm pretty sure that wasn't in the news.

Bush and honesty: not even close
Bush and morality: you must be kidding
Bush and dignity: those 2 words aren't even allowed in the same sentence.

So that's 0 out of 3. Oh Yeah Bush.
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Reality
09-17-2003, 06:02 PM
Quote:Bush and honesty: not even close
Quote:Bush and morality: you must be kidding
Quote:Bush and dignity: those 2 words aren't even allowed in the same sentence.

I guess we'll have to look to the Clintons to restore integrity to the White House.
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Freedom
09-17-2003, 06:32 PM
show Bush 10 points ahead of ANY dem candidate, including queen hillary.

That's because Bush has done a magnificent job on the wars and on terrorism.

That's because the economy is improving because of Bush's tax stimulus.

That's because Bush picks outstanding conservative, moral, brilliant judicial nominees.

That's because the public does not like the fact that Dems filibuster such nonimees.

That's because the public is thrilled with having an honest person in the Whitehouse again.

That's because the M A J O R I T Y of our country's citizens are pro-life and so is Bush.

Yeah baby!
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Re: "Yeah but's"
09-17-2003, 10:30 PM
I responded to you in the Republican forum, but I am going to post my response here too...

Quote: Wookibender, can we take you seriously? I'm sure you can find something to support Bush all by yourself.
You can take me seriously. I seriously want to know what Bush has done that is good. My parents are Republicans, I'm an independant. I vote on the person, not the party. Last election I voted 60/40 dem/rep. Do I hate Republicans? No, many I respect, especially McCain, I would have voted for him if he won the Primary.
The only thing I can find that Bush has done good for EVERYONE is the National Do Not Call Registery. Although, many handicapped and poor senior citizens might be out of a job because of it.

Quote:The recession started BEFORE Bush took office.
Agreed, No Matter who was in office right now, Gore or Bush, we would be dealing with a recession from the Internet Bubble, 9-11 and Cooked books from large corporations. My only beef about Bush and the Economy is him not doing the math. Republicans are supposed to be fiscally conservative, the national debt is out of control and Bush has done relatively nothing for small businesses that are the ones that make more jobs for American than large corporations and keep jobs here in the USA rather than sending them to India or Mexico. Yet, he keeps giving the big Corporations the breaks, and all the richest of rich people all the biggest cuts. I feel he has ignored middle america entirely and has his head up his father's ass on making decissions in this country.

Quote:No attacks on our soil since 9/11. Yeah Bush!
And Bush is stonewalling the 9/11 investigation from the public. What is in it that he does not want the public to see? We have a right to know what happened before 9/11 and all the failures that occured so we can fix them. We have a right to know more about the Saudi's involvement in 9/11. Him stonewalling the investigation only makes it look like he is hiding his own administrations faults for letting it happen. Only time will tell.

Quote:The economy is turning around. Yeah Bush!
The stock market has gone up a little. Is that what you mean? Unemployment is still very high. The large US companies are starting to make a little money again because they are exporting all the jobs overseas.

Quote:Love those tax cuts. Yeah Bush!
Yes, giving away money that you really don't have to give out. Our national and state governments are going deap Deap DEAP into the red with no site of getting back to balancing a budget. How can Bush expect to fight all of these wars and protect the country without asking our citizens for anything in return?
Let me ask you.... would you invest your money into a corporation that looses money every year, can't plan its budgets, that lies to it's shareholders, that gives all the raises to the top 5% of it's work force, that is in serious debt?
Probably not. This government reminds me a lot of Enron.

Quote:Honesty, morality and dignity back in the Whitehouse. Yeah Bush!
ou know that Bush and his administration have lied to the public about reasons to go to war and now many people are dead because of it? You call this Honesty? He is stonewalling the 9/11 investigation of what really happened before 9/11. He is stonewalling the Energy policy. You call this Honesty to the people.
You know that Bush refuses to answer the question about doing COKE in his past. Refusing to answer is a sign of guilt to me. You call this Dignity? This man is filled with a very shady past. The information is there... just go look.
He refuses to have press releases to be questioned openly about important topics. Why? You think this is Dignity to the American People?
You know, Bush has been caught drinking and driving. You call this Morality? Bush is great role model don't you think?

Quote:Pro-life. Yeah Bush!
Very debatable. To half the population it is good, to half it is bad. It's a neutral topic.

Does anyone else have any good things to say about Bush

The way I see it
09-18-2003, 07:03 AM
If you can't win a debate with truth, lie. Won't waste my time with lies.

Independents seem to think they have this superior intellect, but are just voters who can't make up thr mind about what they stand for.

And that's the way I see it.
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Halcyeon
09-18-2003, 07:10 AM
Quote:If you can't win a debate with truth, lie. Won't waste my time with lies.

I know that you won't provide evidence of this accusation. You can't reveal these lies. But I am surprised that you won't even specify what exactly the lie is. You just call people liars in general. How narrowminded of you.

OK. I'll do the same.

Everything you say is a lie because it is typical of you. There. A pointless, weak and cowardly statement. Just liek yours.
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wookibender
09-18-2003, 07:47 AM
Quote: If you can't win a debate with truth, lie. Won't waste my time with lies.
Why don't you waste my time and prove that I lie? I presented many arguements. Which ones were lies?

Quote: Independents seem to think they have this superior intellect, but are just voters who can't make up thr mind about what they stand for.

I have made up my mind. I vote on the person, not the party. Why don't you make up your mind and tell me what I lied about above?
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Beagle
09-18-2003, 09:35 AM
if they can't find him, he doesn't exist. just like the wmd.

Even i know that & I'm a beagle.

Think I'll have another biscuit.

Reality
09-18-2003, 03:54 PM
Stick to the topic please.

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