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WantaghDem
08-30-2003, 08:24 PM
As if bng the biggest laughingstock in the history of lawsuits isn't enough, with people all over the country seng Bill O'Rlly for the vain and doltish idiot that he is - and LAUGHING AT HIM UNCEASINGLY - Slate's Michael Kinsley has a VERY funny and spot-on indictment of Bill O'Rlly and his favorite phrase: "SHUT UP."

Methinks O'Rlly protests enough to make methinks he's actually talking to himself!


"Fox News channel talk show host Bill O'Rlly says "shut up" the way other people say "um."

On his daily show, The O'Rlly Factor, he uses it as a place-holder for an idea still formulating in his brain. As a way to begin a sentence, end it, or punctuate it. Sometimes he says "shut up" with fury, eyes bulging. When he's bng dismissive, he delivers it offhandedly and without real malice. Other times he says it gently, with a minxlike twinkle in his eye, signaling to all the world that he's just bng frisky....."
slate.msn.com/id/2087706/


There's also a funny story from a while ago by Kinsley about O'Rlly and his snobbery and his lies about his upbringing:
slate.msn.com/id/101760/

SuzieQ
08-31-2003, 02:21 AM
Once again, instead of doing the research and refuting what O'Rlly says, you liberals always go right for the jugular and trash the deliveryman. It is so typical of the liberal mind. You guys are so angry that there is someone out there who is trying to report the news fairly. You forget that there are other people out here who do not agree with you and are very conservative in thr thinking. We have a right to be heard also. What makes you think your way is the only way. You folks are so arrogant. Perhaps if you listen to the other side, it would give you a different point of view.
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WantaghDem
08-31-2003, 08:33 AM
First of all, the piece was NOT "trashing the deliveryman." Bill O'Rlly was PROVEN in that piece to be unable to tell the truth, even about himself ("I only said shut up once in six years on the air"); unable to allow someone else to talk when he doesn't like what they are saying (and don't tell me it's "his show" - if that's true, then have no guests); unable to BEAR someone disagreng with him; unable to STAND bng shown up by someone more successful, more funny, and more credible (the Franken lawsuit).

Have you EVER heard a serious liberal trash a conservative such as William F. Buckley? Why not? Because he is a serious, educated man who is serious about his conservative beliefs. While there may be many more like him in the real world, there is virtually NO ONE like him in the media.

Media conservatives are not interested in serious debate where everyone gets to have her or his say. They are not interested in solving the problems of the day, no matter where the facts lead them. The are ideologically constricted, but most of all they are only in it for the ratings, and the money that come with them.

None of these people are serious about what they do. They are only interested in spreading fear and hate. What this piece showed clearly and unequivocally was that O'Rlly is among the worst when it comes to that. O'Rlly doesn't report the news - O'Rlly IS the news on his show. The Kinsley piece didn't trash the messenger - it FAIRLY demonstrated what O'Rlly does on his show, and how he is a liar, proven so by his own videotape.


As far as "the other side" argument; you know, pedophiles have a point of view. To them, what they are doing is natural and built-in to what they feel as pleasurable. Should we LISTEN to thr side? Should we ask them to take a turn at the policy bat? Of course not - what they believe in and stand for goes against everything that we hold dear in our society.

We should no more give Geoghan a platform than we should Ann Coulter.
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mmd10
08-31-2003, 11:47 AM
You know that cruel O'Riley, the way he exposed what the charities were doing with money donated to the victims of 9/11 families. I mean setting aside money the American people donated for the families aside for a Muslim tolerence fund. What the F$&*% is that. Let the Muslims contribute to thr own fund. Thankyou Bill o'Riley for what you do for the Americans who love thr country.

How about the way he exposed professor Al Arian in Florida, he's just in it for the ratings. He doesn't really want to help the country right? Your a cloned idiot. People remember "Multiplicity", remember #3, imagine him cloned over and over and thats what you got here with wd and the other talking point clones.

I saw some democratic organization put out a memo that dems should not appera on FOX. I mean what does this mean, by stating something like that it tells me they are afraid of bng exposed. Who is giving these idiots the advice and the liberal radion network. Hahahahahaha, I couldn't do a better job myself as a facetious right winger on how to self destruct the party into extinction. ROTFLMAO. The Federalist anyone?

You want to take away coulter's freedom of speech, shame on you socialist commie. Sean Penn and Jeanine Garofalo are the ones who give our enemies propaganda on a silver platter.
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NYIndependence
08-31-2003, 02:14 PM
How was that case the biggest laughingstock in the history of lawsuits?
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mmd10
08-31-2003, 03:04 PM
It's called I've got more money to spend on lawyers than you do pinhead.(hehe) Just doing my O'Riley impersonation.

Actually the ACLU does it all the time to mom and pop shops across this land.

You missed that part though, because no one told you libbys. You see I can see the obvious, but unless someone s p e l l s something out for you libbys, you just don't get it.

But the libbys are the biggest laughingstock of recent years.
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WantaghDem
08-31-2003, 03:31 PM
Come on. It's us, not our movements or parties. I said that Clinton shouldn't have done what he did with Lewinsky, and he shouldn't have tried to cover it up. He also shouldn't have been impeached for it, but that's another matter.

You know that this lawsuit is a joke all over the country, except for that small band of haters (who would hate Franken JUST a little bit less if his name was James O'Connor, but that's another point too).

People were actually laughing and giggling in the courtroom. Fox has admitted off the record that they knew it would go nowhere, but that O'Rlly insisted so much that they had to do it.

Here's what the judge said:

"There are hard cases and there are easy cases. This is an easy case," said U.S. District Judge Denny Chin. "This case is wholly without merit both factually and legally."

"Parody is a form of artistic expression protected by the First Amendment. The keystone to parody is imitation. Mr. Franken is clearly mocking Fox," said Chin.

The judge said he thought it ironic that a media company that should be fighting to protect free speech would seek to undermine the First Amendment. He also said he thought the "fair and balanced" trademark is weak because the phrase is used so often. "

Come on, I know we don't budge on most things, but really.

OK, maybe I exaggerated. Maybe in 50 years they'll see the lawsuit that Bush filed in order to stop the Florida recount as the biggest.

Really. Come on. We have so little trust left, you're not going to admit this one?

Come on.

mmd10
08-31-2003, 04:32 PM
I'm telling you WD, it was the I am taking you to courty because I can theory.

It was a ridiculous lawsuit, but I don't think O'Riley was serious. He requested, FOX listened, Fox payed, and so did Al Franken. Thats it.

Your not gonna get me started about Florida are you.

wd
"OK, maybe I exaggerated. Maybe in 50 years they'll see the lawsuit that Bush filed in order to stop the Florida recount as the biggest"

Let me explain how our system works. You see the people elect the congresses of states as well as the federal government. These congresses then pass bills, which the president or the governor in the states case sign into law. So thats how Florida came up with thr election law. You see when the Florida suprems ripped up the election law and started creating thr own law, it's just not acceptable. That is what Kings did in England in years past, we don't have kings in our system. So the US Supreme court had to get involved and stop the judicial activism. Only because it was a federal election. Had that been a local election, the republican guy would have been screwed.

Anyhow they recounted the votes, AL GORE LOST. Get over it already.

You see thats the proeblem with the whole church and state thing too. The supremes in 1947 just made up something out of nowhere and here we have it.

Kings in courts scare me, I don't wanna be just a peasant living outside the courts like back in England in centuries past.

I hope people are waking up to this phenom taking place with these whacko judges who crown themselves king.
Very scary.
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NYIndependence
08-31-2003, 06:55 PM
Quote:You know that this lawsuit is a joke all over the country, except for that small band of haters
Go to the website for the US Trademark and Patent Office. Search the trademark "Fair and Balanced". You will find that Serial Number 75280027 Registration Number 2213427 is "Fair and Balanced" and the owner of that trademark is "Fox News Network". So, when a book about political news coverage (the cornerstone of the network's broadcasting) was published, with the words "Fair and Balanced" and an allegedly doctored photo of one of thr personalities, it would appear that Fox News had and has quite a legitimate case.
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NYIndependence
08-31-2003, 06:58 PM
As for the Lewinsky Scandal, the allegation is that Clinton abused his power to manipulate the witnesses. Keep in mind, the charge was perjury, not adultery.
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WantaghDem
08-31-2003, 07:33 PM
I don't think you'd be making this poor an argument if the shoe were on the other foot. Even the Fox lawyers, off the record, admitted this to be a case without merit.

"an allegedly doctored photo of one of thr personalities"

Not only have I not heard this charge before, it wasn't in the court documents I read. What is the alleged "doctoring"?

ther you're using the wrong word or you have been misinformed.

The trademark protects the owner from infrigement. Not only is valid journalistic satire protected from copyright infrigement, the flawed logic would extend to anyone who is reviewing Fox News, commenting on its slogan, or anyone who is even reporting about the case itself!

They don't have a case. Hardcore conservatives are the only ones who seem to not understand this...and even some of them have admitted it!

On another forum, NYURepublican admitted that Fox had no case, but that s/he was glad that it would cost Franken, etc (s/he went on with a lot of hate-filled name-calling, but we all know Sassy/NYURepublican).
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NYIndependence
09-01-2003, 05:48 AM
The case is that Franken is making money off a book with Fox's trademarked slogan on the cover and a picture of one of its personalities. According to Bill O'Rlly, the photo was manipulated. You can believe him or not, but I can take an educated guess as to what you will think.
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WantaghDem
09-01-2003, 08:35 AM
I never denied that the photo was "doctored." I simply said that as a person interested in the case and reading a lot about it, I never encountered this charge.

Could you please give me a citation so I can see for myself? I mean, you don't ask me to TRUST you, do you?




And this "case" that you mention is no "case" because 1. satire is protected...you can't satirize something that you're not allowed to SAY....and 2. because the photo is of a public personality, who is also a target of the satire, so there is no case (unless they used the photograph without permission of the COPYRIGHT owner!)


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NYIndependence
09-02-2003, 11:32 AM
He made the claim on his radio show the day after the lawsuit was filed. Unfortunately, I can't cite that as an article or excerpt, so you can take my word for it or not. It's up to you.
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WantaghDem
09-02-2003, 05:35 PM
Oh, I'll take your word for it. Especially since I have no desire to wade through the archives listening for it!

By the way, is that the only time you ever heard his radio program?

The thing is, if this charge were anything more than something that he said off the cuff on his radio show, don't you think it's likely that it would have been reported in the stories about the case - or would have been included as part of the case itself?

Again, it may have been...but I never saw it.

Give his track record, it sounds to me like something he just said one day to add "credence" to his claim of injury.

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NYIndependence
09-03-2003, 02:39 AM
Actually, I usually listen to Hannity if I'm in the car at that time of day
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WantaghDem
09-03-2003, 04:43 AM
Most "independents" can say they listen to Hannity, O'Rlly and Rush.

Independent.

Riiiiight.

NYIndependence
09-03-2003, 06:03 AM
I also listen to Curtis & Kuby. According to your logic, that makes me a socialist and a cheerleader for Bush at the same time.
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NYIndependence
09-03-2003, 06:11 AM
Quote:Rush
Who said I listen to Rush? It's clear that you have the preconcved notion that I am a conservative, so you will attach anything to me, whether it be true or a lie, to prove that. I never mentioned anything about Rush Limbaugh, but you floated the name out there nevertheless.

What's more, if I did listen to Rush Limbaugh, it does not make me a conservative any more than reading Al-Jazeera's english website (Which I do) makes me an Islamic Fundamentalist. Sometimes, in order to better understand your perspectives, you have to hear opinions different from your own. The concept is obviously lost on you.
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WantaghDem
09-03-2003, 06:42 AM
...attend a Klan rally to keep up with hate groups.

And you don't have to listen to every single idiot who comes down the pike in order to hear different points of view. DIFFERENT points of view, yes. UNINFORMED, IRRESPONSIBLE, HACKS, no.

"I also listen to Curtis & Kuby. According to your logic, that makes me ..."

Well, gee, uhhh.....tasteless? Without the ability to discriminate quality from garbage? ....

I never said that YOU listen to Rush. You should be able to read a little better than that, don't you think? Your simple quote of the word "Rush" from my post means that you think you can take any word from any post and claim that the poster was accusing you of doing that.

So, if I posted something about Bush, you could quote a single word from me and claim that I was calling YOU the moron.

What I said was, yeah, sure, all "independents" choose these types of "media" to enjoy. Right.

You obviously have no idea how to think critically and evaluate the credibility of your media heroes.


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NYIndependence
09-03-2003, 09:26 AM
Quote:Most "independents" can say they listen to Hannity, O'Rlly and Rush.
The insinuation is that I listen to Rush, since in this statement he has been grouped with two other personalities whom I have admitted to listening to. You inferred that I listen to Rush without any evidence to back up that claim.

Quote:You obviously have no idea how to think critically and evaluate the credibility of your media heroes.This is another example of you arriving at your own conclusions based on absolutely no objective evidence. Have I claimed that any of these individuals are media heroes? On the contrary. I simply stated that Fox News's case was legitimate and that I listen to Sean Hannity's and Bill O'Rlly's radio shows on occasion. Does listening to a radio show mean that one has surrendered his or her skills of evaluation? I was unaware that in order to listen to a radio personality, you must agree with all (or any) of thr political beliefs. There you go assuming again.
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WantaghDem
09-03-2003, 10:11 PM
We're not interested. We don't care to listen in as you try to figure out and rationalize your political ideology.

Protesting too much, and to the wrong person, unless there's a mirror by that monitor.
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sepiagypsy
09-03-2003, 10:19 PM
Suzie--how fairly is one reporting the news when they are telling people to shut up? In the old America that conservatives used to hold dear--anchor men and political analysts that disagreed still conducted themselves with dignity--and yet, you guys feel as if you can scream and shout your opinions at people, and when someone says "hey stop screaming at me" you call them hate filled pantywaists..

Oh that is REALLY helpful to political discussion and an exchange of ideas.

The conservative friends I have in my life don't behave that way...which is why they are my friends. we treat one anothers ideas with mutual respect agreng to disagree--Does Hannity Limbaugh Coulter do that?

WantaghDem
09-04-2003, 07:35 AM
Sepia, what are you talking about you filthy little @#%$? Do everyone a favor and kill yourself.

yeah but
09-04-2003, 07:44 AM
Ignore the looney left that escaped from looneyville. We all do ignore them.

Tip: They get Xtra mad when confronted with the truth.
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WantaghDem
09-04-2003, 10:09 AM
Sepia - and all -

Please take note of the fact that I did not post that hate-filled and childish post above.

Some jealous, scared person whom I have obviously shown up one too many times on this board posted as me, in a vain attempt to do to me immorally what they cannot to do me in a debate.

Whomever you are who did this, you are a small small person with a lot of hate inside you. You are to be ashamed of yourself for hiding and striking out in a cowardly and very very very weak manner.

I imagine that if you are a male, it is a great likelihood that you are impotent as well as bng inadequate.

Looking at who was posting at the time, and who posted right afterward on this thread, it seems clear what sick poster did this. Shame on you.
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Bill Oreally
09-04-2003, 10:15 AM
shut up

NYIndependence
09-04-2003, 10:36 AM
Quote:We're not interested.
You were obviously interested enough to post this:
Quote:You obviously have no idea how to think critically and evaluate the credibility of your media heroes.
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WantaghDem
09-04-2003, 11:12 AM
Are you that upset that someone has challenged you - that you have to follow them around and post like this?

Awww.
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NYIndependence
09-04-2003, 01:10 PM
Each of those statements was in this thread. How is that following you around? Apparently immaturity is your method of avoiding any real political debate.
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SuzieQ
09-04-2003, 03:11 PM
I agree with you that O'Rlly should not tell anyone to "shut up." He does that rarely though. Mostly, if someone will not "shut up" he cuts thr mike. Everyone has so much time to speak and if they start fillerbusting that means some else cannot get thr point across. Regardless of what anyone says, I think he is pretty fair in his dealings with issues of the day. I just can't stand when issues are slanted to the right or the left. I am smart enough to make up my own mind on things and I do not need anyone to do it for me. We all should be allowed to decide for ourselves. Just the facts. I like you do not agree with folks many times but if they present the issue without name-calling and bitterness, then I agree to disagree. It gets so frustrating to hear people call other people names because they do not like what they stand for. I am sick of it............Some of these nuts that say they are going to leave the country if Bush does this or that. I wish they would leave and stop acting like spoiled brats.
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WantaghDem
09-04-2003, 03:19 PM
You are so blind to the lies around you. O'Rlly's show is an hour-long lie from beginning to end, just like the moon landing and the holocaust.
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NYIndependence
09-06-2003, 05:14 AM
Quote:shut up
Good one...
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WantaghDem
09-06-2003, 09:41 AM
Some intellectually inferior little girl who is jealous of smart successful people has posted as if they were me.

Actually, that's incorrect. They posted as if they were themselves (idiotic, inferior language and logic, emotionally stunted, probably sexually dysfunctional or at l inadequate) - but posted UNDER my name.

To the little girl who is so jealous and bereft of any capability whatsoever of even attempting to debate me (hint - you've been stalking me for a while begging me to validate your pathetic existence): I find it interesting that you chose what you chose to make an a_s out of yourself.

1. The moon landing - a triumph of liberalism - as is the entire space program. A great example of several liberal ideas that demonstrates quite clearly the superiority of liberalism over conservativism. If we went with the conservatives, we never would have funded it (OK, we would have funded the failed and laughable space based weapons system that the Alzhmer President touted) and we would still be wondering whether the magic man in the clouds would want us leaving earth orbit.

2. The holocaust - a triumph of the forefathers of American conservatism. Enough said.
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Hmmmmmm
10-14-2004, 02:22 PM
In every recount after the fl. fiasco had the recount gone through gore would have won not to mention the 50000 ballots that just vanished. And the fact that bush's cousin was the leader of the fl. election commission

hear that
10-14-2004, 02:29 PM
shows you the real support the dems have for thr soldiers---they don't even want them to cast thr ballots:">