The Myth of the Clinton Economy

[REBEL]

The "Clinton economy" was created by George H.W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan. Clinton cannot even expalin (I left this typo here so liberals will have something else to criticize) why the economy was successful. I am not sure if you have heard him try, but it pretty funny. He was like an Arkansas trailerpark lottery winner, and he blew the whole thing in 7 yrs.(Reagan predicted the date of the economic surge in 1983.)

The architect of the Enron Debt scam was Robert Rubin, Clinton's secretary of the treasury. (In his role at Citibank he put together this plan for Enron that lead to thr downfall). The audit firm of the treasury debartment was Andersen, and the principal was David Duncan. (Same people who audited the treasury department during the 90's economy audited Enron. Not the same company the same individuals) The entire economy from 1997 on was driven by an Enron style fraud pulled of by Robert Rubin. He Enroned the National Debt. Yes Robert Rubin put together the plan that took Enron down in his job at Citibank.



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[Sassy]

The economic recovery did begin in 91 according to Greenspan. Everyone knows Clinton inherited a surging economy, and handed in an economy in full reccession.
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[azellyn]

Can you debunk the "myth of the Bush economy"???

Please...or anything that is part of the new millenium for godssake??

You people want to fight a war for reasons that occurred more than a decade ago, you want to justify killing for weapons last verified in the last century, now you want to attack the previous administration's economic record.

But....and this is a BIG BUT....

You are eerily silent when I post facts like Bush creating a quasi-intelligence agency to hype plans for war. Or that Bush lied about Iraq's weapons capabilities...i.e. "unmanned drones"....

Need I say more? Your groping and reaching are so obviously desperate they are becoming pathetic.

Keep it current will ya?


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[South Shore]

Clinton comes into office with a huge deficit and turns it into a 240 million dollar surplus in ght years. now GW turns it into a 350 million dollar deficit again, but the clinton economy was the result of bush's father and ronald reagans economic policies?...you need to see a shrink....
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[Sassy]

azellyn, if we are silent it's because some of you ask the same question or say the same things over and over and over again. How many times should we answer the same question?

Bush and Reagan defeated the Soviet Empire, and won the cold war. The victory in the cold war is the reason for the BOOOOOOOOOOOM. Clinton thinks it's because he was good with the chicks.

Bush/Cheney aren't just paying for thr military, but also for Clintons. Clinton slashed national security, under funded intelligence, setting the table for 9/11. At l 50 percent of the Bush/Cheney budget should have been spent in the Clinton Administration. Clinton was irresponsible with national security, and today we are footing the bill.

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[WantaghDem]

good point, except your numbers are too low

page 57 of bush's own most recent budget report says the deficit is $698 BILLION.
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[REBEL]

Did you liberals know that we were attacked on 9/11? Did you know that protecting our country costs money? Did you know we are at war? Guess not. Defending our country is expensive. The protection of our citizens and our freedom is priceless.

I did not want to start another post so:

The liberal establishment has gone out of its way to decve Americans into thinking what you believe, This is what Dan Rather will say on the News, this is what the New York Times will write, this is what Harvard will teach but it is false. 2+2=4, the sun will come up tommorrow, and liberalisn leads to fascism.

This is the danger of media bias, people believe these falsehoods. Read Bias by Bernie Goldberg. Read Slander, by Ann Coulter, Read Coloring the News by William McGowan. Liberalism is evil. Liberalism leads to Hitler.

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[SomeoneSane]

are living in crushing poverty under oppressive regimes supported or resulting from American action (The Taliban came to power because of Regan's support for Osama bin Laden's forces against the USSR in the 80's, American troops secure the Saudi Arabian dictatorship, we are responsible for the occupation of Palestine where 80% of the people live below the poverty line). Under these circumstances Arabs don't have to stretch too far to hate America, and it's a shame. Liberals know its not America's fault but they also know dropping bombs alone isn't going to eliminate terrorist threats. Does defense cost money? Yes. Do liberals and Democrats pay up? Yes. Are we embroiled in a war in Iraq without help simply because of Bush's arrogance? Yes. Even the French would be willing to send troops and money if we would turn the burden of running Iraq over to the UN, with international troops and money fewer American troops would die in Iraq, and less money would come out of our pockets into Iraq. The Department of Homeland Security was a Democratic idea that the President latched onto, but he failed to incorporate ther the FBI or the CIA! The freedom and life of our citizens is priceless, but our leaders take our freedoms by spying on what books we read and phone calls we make without approval of any judge, and the cooperative mood of the world after 9/11 has been wasted in arrogance and America is still vulnerable.
Liberalism leads to fascism eh? Liberalism is the opposite of fascism. The liberal establishment is gone, gone away. You make no sense even if you believe liberalism means death; you don't say what liberals want you to believe. You are mouthing propaganda you don't understand, and you won't understand it because it has no merit. I remind you Hitler hated and assaulted minorities where liberals go out of thr way to advocate for them. Hitler squelched opposing views while liberals embrace them. Hitler gave his police state complete power to eliminate traitors, route out those who might endanger the greatness of his country, liberals oppose the expansion of intruding police power against similar accusations of bng unpatriotic and traitorous. If there's a mass liberal media and press you must admit it's doing a pretty pathetic job, hardly taking Bush or the Republicans to task over the issues. 70% of Americans believe Saddam Hussn was involved in the 9.11 attacks when Osama Bin Laden called for the people of Iraq to overthrow Saddam, where the whole Bush administration this week acknowledged that there was no link. And you want me to read Slander by Ann Coulter, the name alone reveals what a joke her book and her stances are. Your conservative propagandist far right is only trumped in stupidity by your own post. I'd love to talk to you for a few hours about how you came to be a victim of right wing propaganda but alas I shall not have that opportunity. I suggest keeping other people's ideas locked safely up inside your decaying brain until you can present them coherently. Good Night.

[Re: Economy]

Our economy has been growing because of all the immigrants flooding our country. We are fast becoming a country of merchants. The only way to keep the economy growing is to keep letting more and more people in. With corrupt businesses padding the books and the growth of immigration unprecedented we will soon be on a spiral going down. With all the new mouths to feed and no jobs immigration will destroy us from the inside out.

[WantaghDem]

NEWSFLASH: our economy isn't growing well at all. we have record deficits and debt (screw % of GDP...if you knew anything about economics the debt is the problem, and bush is DOUBLING it). 3 million jobs lost. unemployment highest in YEARS.

and regardless, how can a nation of 300 million be so affected by less than seven million?

it can't. goodnight.
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[Truman]

By your own reasoning :NEWSFLASH: our economy isn't growing well at all. we have record deficits and debt (screw % of GDP...if you knew anything about economics the debt is the problem, and bush is DOUBLING it). 3 million jobs lost. unemployment highest in YEARS.

and regardless, how can a nation of 300 million be so affected by less than seven million?

it can't. goodnight.
Then how can a meager 3 million affect our nation?
IT CAN'T
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NEWSFLASH: our economy isn't growing well at all. we have record deficits and debt (screw % of GDP...if you knew anything about economics the debt is the problem, and bush is DOUBLING it). 3 million jobs lost. unemployment highest in YEARS.

and regardless, how can a nation of 300 million be so affected by less than seven million?

it can't. goodnight.

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[WantaghDem]

Was this crap supposed to actually mean something?

He may be having a stroke....someone call 911!
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[Yonivore]

Quote:Defend No Party....

"...strange how ght years of Clinton gave us a 0 deficit, and a SURPLUS..."
Not strange at all. A Republican Congress passed the balanced budgets for Clinton to sign. A Demoncratic Congress taxed and spent itself through the Reagan and Bush I years.

President's have no power of the purse string people. They propose a budget to fill the needs of the Executive Branch. Congress passes an appropriations bill that is supposed to fund the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of government. ?Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.? - - President John Fitzgerald Kennedy

?We will make no distinction between those who committed these acts and those who harbor them.? - - President George W. Bush
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[Nattydread]

Well bring back those mythical days...'cause I'll take the myth over todays reality anyday!

I'll take the myth...of quitting your job at 8:00am and getting an offer by noon the same day!

I'll take that myth over getting laid off ..today and staying unemployed for years!

I'll take those mythical days when my concerns were ...can I retire before 50 ...over today's reality where my concerns are...WILL I EVER RETIRE!

I'll take those mythical days where ...my president was only 'boffing' the intern over...

my president is ling to go to an un-necessary war..spend $Billions of taxpayers money and get 1,000's of GI killed!


I'll take the mythical days where the rest of the world respect Americans..over..todays reality where Americans are seen as idiotic. over-zealous and uncouth!

Yep...I'll take those mythical days anyday!
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[Truman]

There have been less than 400 GI casualties so far in Iraq and half of those were non combat incidents.
I too would like to see the return of respect for America starting with Americans like you nutty and wattadummy and sillybob etc..
But when our schools are teaching disdain for America and turnout people such as yourself it will never happen. When katie couric and the NY Times and CNN consistantly spew America hating propaganda we will never have the respect we deserve. You liberals would sell out the country just because you don't always get your way. You should rally behind your country no matter who is in office, THAT is patriotism. You people will be back in control of the prolatariat purse strings soon enough, then other countries will be justified in viewing us as idiotic.
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[Yonivore]

Congress bng the spending branch of government aside, how do you reconcile the fact that our economy was headed up during the first Bush administration (about 18 months before Clinton **gag, cough, cough, cough** took the oath of office) and was headed back down, during the Clinton administration (about the time of the .com fiascoes).

Also, Enron, Worldcom, and the rest of those corporate scandals occurred on his watch. But, because the Bush Justice Department is pursuing the prosecutions, it automatically becomes something that the Bush Administration is responsible for.

Wow, Demoncratic logic never ceases to amaze me. ?Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.? - - President John Fitzgerald Kennedy

?We will make no distinction between those who committed these acts and those who harbor them.? - - President George W. Bush
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[WantaghDem]

Now stop kidding around....no one believes that you can be THIS dense.

" A Republican Congress passed the balanced budgets for Clinton to sign. A Demoncratic Congress taxed and spent itself through the Reagan and Bush I years."

Clinton had no say in the "good" and Reagan had no say in the "bad."

How TERRIBY convenient for you.

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[WantaghDem]

You're already starting out on the wrong foot with a failed, discredited, illogical philosophy....when you add bng dead wrong on the facts, all you come up with is...well,....Bush!

"There have been less than 400 GI casualties so far in Iraq"

There have been over SIX THOUSAND U.S. CASUALTIES so far in Iraq. OVER SIX THOUSAND, NOT LESS THAN FOUR HUNDRED.

We are not name calling - you are pointing out for us that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
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[Yonivore]

NO say. But yeah, very little.

You might want to read your Constitution every now and then.
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