JAMES GARNER FOR CONGRESS?

[veritas]

Ok, has anyone heard about Big Jim forming an exploratory committee to challenge Carolyn Mc Carthy for her Congressional seat?

Does this rumour have legs, or is it just so much hot air?

[Sanjay]

Is that old goat even still alive? I have him in the office death pool. If that's the best the GOP has got, why not just run Dan Frisa again?

[Bill OReilly]

Mayor James A. Garner turned 58 this past June. He's about 16 months younger than Congressperson McCarthy.

Garner has a history of succeeding where folks underestimated him. He's won several elections in an overwhelmingly Democratic village.

His election as president of the United States Conference of Mayors lends credibility in Washington to his candidacy. I think Mayor Garner would make an interesting candidate. I'd make no predictions at this time whether he'd beat or be trounced by Mrs. McCarthy.
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[Sanjay]

Oh, THAT James Garner. OK.

[Confused Pol]

Let me see if I understand this correctly:

A recent Republican turned Democrat woman novice candidate with a single issue beats a life-long Republican man with solid experience in political affairs for a single vote.

James Garner, a 58 yr-old black man, out of political step with the vast majority of his fellow black citizens, who's name has only appeared on the ballot under a Village Party tag line (not his Registered Party affiliation), who has no use for political parties other than that they provide a vehicle for his name appearing on a ballot, who has the gall to sit at the same dinner table with a President of the United States who praised the segregation polices of Strom Thurmond and Jim Jones University and thinks he's furthering his Village's interests by sitting on some powerless National Village Officials committee, thinks he's can beat McCarthy (or some think he can to float this trial baloon). \

Garner invented Oreo cookies.

Prediction: McCarthy....the Democrat Garners more black votes than Garner....the Republican. Doubtful, then run him! I dare you.

[Bill OReilly]

I'm unfamiliar with the "Registered Party." Nor do I know what the "polices" of the late senator from South Carolina or some university in Guyana have to do with a discussion of 4th NY District politics.

In addition to the errors alluded to above, Garner is not head of some powerless "National Village Officials committee." I'd invite the truly "Confused Pol" to check his facts at l a little bit and then I'll discuss his conclusions.
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[FunNGun]

I can't believe that gun grabbing traitor Hillary-clone sleazebag is still in Congress after all this time. Don't the people in that part of Nassau have any brains?

[Politico]

Why must you resort to racial epithets when you describe Mayor Garner?? You can certainly voice your opinion without referring to him in insutling terms.
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[Campaign Manager]

Anyone know who's involved officially or behind the scenes on the Garner side of this effort?

Does the name Rudy Clark ring a bell to anyone?

Thanks.

[Mr Holland]

as a former Rep from Locust Valley, who used a death in my family to further my career.

[open eyes]

A black candidate from the metro area. He could pull it off we have no one to run now. Also would look good for Bush in New York

[Bill OReilly]

Have we really come to picking candidates based only on a racial(st) criterion?

I've met Jim Garner. I like Jim Garner. I may even vote for Jim Garner. I won't consider his candidacy at all if Westbury and Washington tout him just because of his race.

This insults my intelligence (what little I have). It insults Garner personally. It insults all Americans - Black or White.

Remember NY02 in '00?
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[NYIndependence]

Is Garner a conservative or moderate republican?

If he can oust McCarthy, more power to him.

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[Eyeballing Garner]

Garner is all of those things, and none of those things. You can't peg hole this politician except to note that this Black Republican has never appeared on any ballot under the label "Republican". Had he done so, at any point in his career, he certainly would have suffered his first electoral defeat.

As for believing in the precepts of the so-called "Independence" Party, you can forget about anything approaching reform -- he's in lock step with closed ballot access under firm Republican control.

There's absolutely nothing reform about this guy. It's all Jobs, jobs, jobs for blacks --- PERIOD!

[NYIndependence]

Quote:It's all Jobs, jobs, jobs for blacks --- PERIOD! Outstanding. That's the type of direction the black community, and the Republican Party, need. I must say that today's Hempstead is ten times better than he found it. He turned half-demolished buildings into bustling shopping centers. If he intends to run, it will certainly be interesting.
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[South Shore]

He has no shot. blacks would vote for Mccarthy. It's her base. Where is Garner gonna get his votes from, Valley stream and Meadow?. I think not. Go back to dating Earline hill jim.
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[Mrs OGrady]

I have a cracked staff and want to run again. LOL

[Eyeballing Garner]

As for his role in fostering a "bustling shopping center". Why is parking so easy to find at the Garner Shopping Center? Because no one shops there and the only reason these retailers are there are for the big tax breaks.

YOu mistakenly assume that Garner had a role in bringing business to Hempstead when its designation by the State of New York as an Urban Enterprise Zone was more influential than anything he did. (Designation as a UEZ is a sign of commerical sickness, not health by the way).

Well, let's see. He has hit up these corporations for contributions to his campaign, and his economic Revitalization Czar is major bag man for the Long Beach GOPers and D'Amato.

Anyway, so few folks shop there it's hard to see how they stay in business, even given the property tax abatements and assorted corporate welfare programs made available to them.

but I do agree with the previous poster....Garner gets the going rate among the Black vote for Republicans 6-9%, not much more than that. The numbers don't add up in this non-MM district.

[Bill OReilly]

As far as the comment about Dr. O'Grady's "cracked staff," I'll assume that it from some ignorant Democrat partisan or illinformed GOP armchair general whose knowledge is based on unfriendly media coverage and reading posts here.

Concerning the beautiful shopping complex in Hempstead, I had a conversation with Mayor Garner several weeks ago about it. It turns out that the prior occupancy of the property still generated solid tax revenue for the village, town and county. The current occupancy generates little revenue and won't for quite a while. Garner himself opined that many of the businesses benefiting from various government subsidies could leave when same expired.

In the short-term, Hempstead does have a fine looking mall. That cannot hurt local property values. In the long-term, the prospects are far less optimistisc.

As to Garner's personal prospects, if nominated he certainly will fare far better than any prior GOP candidate in minority areas. The last GOP candidate, Dr. O'Grady, garnered 13.5% of the votes in Uniondale, Hempstead, New Cassel, Roosevelt and Lakeview. Garner would easily double that to 35%. Such a gain would lop about 8,000 votes off the margin -- assuming that he does just as well in Garden City and elsewhere. 8,000 votes won't do the trick.

Some will suggest that a pro-abortion liberal GOPer will woo back disaffected moderate GOP soccer moms and win the day. This underestimates the inclination of many pro-life or conservative folks just to pass on the contest entirely or worse. If the GOP insists on nominating Garner simply and only because of his race, then I suspect conservatives and pro-lifers may even field thr own protest candidate thus dooming his candidacy.



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[AbortAbortAbort]

So, Bill O'Really is one of those anti-abortion zealots who probably thinks the procedure should be illegal under any circumstances.

Isn't that the position of the psycho preacher just euthenized by Jeb Bush's State of Florida?

Keep posting you nut!

[Bill OReilly]

More insults, less argument, please.
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[dm2502]

I think it's helpful to the GOP to have more black Republicans in Congress, and Mayor Garner might be the type of non-traditional Republican who could break Congresswoman McCarthy's hold on that seat. However, I was also hopeful that Joan Johnson would run a better race against Steve Israel in 2000, and she was a complete disaster. Hopefully, Mayor Garner is a better candidate who will run a smarter campaign.