Nassau County Assessment Commission should be abolished

[olimsucks]

Whenever you write to them, they always seem to find an excuse to misplace your files, your reference number doesnt exist (even though it appears on the County website). I could give countless examples of stalling tactics to frustrate Nassau County residents in giving up thr challenging assessment.

The Assessment Commission is a colossal waste of taxpayer money and should be abolished.

The only thing that really matters is the Court hearing.

Do not pay attention to anything posted by the Board of Assessors website.

It is all a joke.

[what did glenn do before?]

Whenever you write to them, they always seem to find an excuse to misplace your files, your reference number doesnt exist (even though it appears on the County website). I could give countless examples of stalling tactics to frustrate Nassau County residents in giving up thr challenging assessment.

The Assessment Commission is a colossal waste of taxpayer money and should be abolished.

The only thing that really matters is the Court hearing.

Do not pay attention to anything posted by the Board of Assessors website.

It is all a joke.

Glen Borin did a bang up job in New York City supervising all of those tax assessors who made the NH Building Department look like the College of Cardinals. Glen Borin's NYC Department of Finance failed to thwart hundreds of millions of dollars worth of tax fraud. I guess his managerial excellence continues in his employment in Nassau! Where is Liz Dvorkin-Botwin when you need her! I guess she is crying in her beer after her boss got blasted out of the water by Tommy DiNapoli. The only way she goes to Albany is if she takes the New York Thruway!

[Truth Be Told2]

Now you didn't say whether it was the Assessment Department you want abolished of the Assessment Review Commission. Which is it? How could ther lose your file, when they are all on computer. You can even go online and see where your file is and the progress that has been made.

Now the idea to abolish both is a good one. Call your cronies on Post Ave and ask them to direct Skelos et al to vote for a Nassau Income Tax. No balls, they'd never do it. Only if you have an income tax, can you eliminate ther the Department or the Commission.

It maybe online for public view, but when you write to them regarding your case, the fine public servants at the Board of Assessors under Harvey Levinson reply your case number you reference isnt in our records. No kidding.

What a way to run open and honest government.

That cant happen under a a Suozzi administration. :lol:

[truth be really told]

Now you didn't say whether it was the Assessment Department you want abolished of the Assessment Review Commission. Which is it? How could ther lose your file, when they are all on computer. You can even go online and see where your file is and the progress that has been made.

Now the idea to abolish both is a good one. Call your cronies on Post Ave and ask them to direct Skelos et al to vote for a Nassau Income Tax. No balls, they'd never do it. Only if you have an income tax, can you eliminate ther the Department or the Commission.

Now you are just bng silly. When has the government ever eliminated an entire flow of tax money? Linking real property tax to a county income tax is like linking the war in Iraq to the Arab desire for "peace" in (or a bigger piece of) Palestine. It's a straw man argument because you will never have property tax abolished in favor of income tax. For example, would property tax be abolished merely for owner occupied homes with three or less families or would this be across the boards? Also, since a large portion of Democrats are renters, this would be a pretty hard hit at Democratic households too. Do you think that any Democratic Poll would be "brave" enough to do this? Or are you just talking out of your collective rear ends as usual.

[he he he ha he he]

Now you didn't say whether it was the Assessment Department you want abolished of the Assessment Review Commission. Which is it? How could ther lose your file, when they are all on computer. You can even go online and see where your file is and the progress that has been made.

Now the idea to abolish both is a good one. Call your cronies on Post Ave and ask them to direct Skelos et al to vote for a Nassau Income Tax. No balls, they'd never do it. Only if you have an income tax, can you eliminate ther the Department or the Commission.

Now you are just bng silly. When has the government ever eliminated an entire flow of tax money? Linking real property tax to a county income tax is like linking the war in Iraq to the Arab desire for "peace" in (or a bigger piece of) Palestine. It's a straw man argument because you will never have property tax abolished in favor of income tax. For example, would property tax be abolished merely for owner occupied homes with three or less families or would this be across the boards? Also, since a large portion of Democrats are renters, this would be a pretty hard hit at Democratic households too. Do you think that any Democratic Poll would be "brave" enough to do this? Or are you just talking out of your collective rear ends as usual.

Notice How I shut up those dumb ass democrat income taxers. They are silent now, the idiots...........lol

What an a**. It's repubs who oppose an income tax because it would make the wealthy pay thr fair share. Ain't that right, Donald?

[luck be a donkey tonight]

What an a**. It's repubs who oppose an income tax because it would make the wealthy pay thr fair share. Ain't that right, Donald?

renters pay income tax fool, and tend to vote democratic. kill you own base. sucka. you are lucky that nobody actually listens to the inane positions that the democrats take.

RENTERS PAY INCOME TAXES INDIRECTLY, FOOL, OR HAVEN'T YOU FIGURED THAT OUT? I CAN SEE YOU NEVER OWNED A RENTAL PROPERTY.

[you are clueless fool]

RENTERS PAY INCOME TAXES INDIRECTLY, FOOL, OR HAVEN'T YOU FIGURED THAT OUT? I CAN SEE YOU NEVER OWNED A RENTAL PROPERTY.

A rental unit is not priced by "real estate" tax per se, but by the market and to a lesser extent, government subsidy. There is a demand for units, and finite supply. A consumer on Long Island has a number of choices. The consumer can ther: a) pay rent, b) hook up with some limited form of government subsidized housing, whether it be through Section 8, or programs for the elderly or first time home buyers, c) purchase a co-op or condo, d) leave Long Island, e) leave new york, or f) live with relatives in an extended family unit. Most consumers, if given the opportunity, will chose a living unit where they can derive equity. Thus, the Landlord has a limited market with which to deal with in terms of renting units. The Landlord may try to base her rental price upon her expectation of profit, of which real estate tax is a cost which could in the ideal world be passed onto a renter, but in an era of annualized"Fair market" reassessment, the landlord cannot achieve this effectively without overpricing the unit, and maybe missing opportunities to rent the unit.

[john brown]

it should be abolished

Yo, fool, this Long Island, remember? Rental demand far outstrips supply. Property tax increases get passed on to the renter. Comprende mi amigo?

Yo, fool, this Long Island, remember? Rental demand far outstrips supply. Property tax increases get passed on to the renter. Comprende mi amigo?

Your scenario works only if the landlord can name her price, and can adjust rent solely to taxation rate, which isn't necessarily so. You simply cannot understand that the landlord can only charge a finite amount for rent (what the market will ultimately bear for the kind of unit she wishes to rent) and preserves her profit base by placing less emphasis upon maintaining the premise. Hence, the proliferation of substandard units on Long Island.

How can a landlord adjust her rental price based solely upon annualized assessment, when the negotiation of a lease and the adjustment in tax price are two separate and distinct events, and when increased taxation is subject to challenge? Explain how you would a landlord can "adjust" the price term in a tenant's contract to an increase in real property tax. Even allowing some lag time between an increase in tax, and a renegotiation of the rent, the landlord risks pricing himself out of the market for a particular tenant and particular unit, and has to sustain more risk with respect to recruiting a new tenant. And with a new tenant there are always risks. You really sound like you work for the government because it is obvious that you do not know how to negotiate a price in a competitive market.

But back to the main point. A tenant will by definition feel an income tax with more immediate impact than a rise in real estate taxation. Also, some tenants who would vote democratic are insultated from market forces by Section 8 rentals, residence in sober houses, rental control units in the City of Long Beach, residency in some form of fair housing or housing for the elderly, and other controls on price. To the extent that these tenants earn taxable income, they will feel the impact of a local income tax more than a rise in property tax. Particularly the working poor.

Is the real estate tax assessment system broken on Long Island, and particularly in Nassau County? Yes. But I thought that the great Tom Suozzi, Harvey Levinson, Justice Winslow, and the "experts" from New York City were going to fix everything? And all you lame folks can come up with is an income tax, one which will never completely replace property tax. So the taxpayer will wind up getting it from both ends.

[taxes and taxes]

The simple answer: Cut spending and then cut taxes.

If Judge Winslow is that closely aligned with the Suozziites he has no business adjuticating cases brought by the union against the "county" He should recuse himself.

Please tell me more about this judge.

[wild card winslow]

If Judge Winslow is that closely aligned with the Suozziites he has no business adjuticating cases brought by the union against the "county" He should recuse himself.

Please tell me more about this judge.

Remember the probation officer from "a clockwork orange." winslow is sort of like him. winslow is quick tempered side and likes to delve into the "policy aspects" of a case. Winslow is a talented judge when it comes to arm twisting resolutions, which is not necessarily a bad thing, but a lawyer arguing something as sensitive as the constitutionality of the real estate tax assessment must stand very firm, vindicate the taxpayer interest, and not allow herself to be bullied on the details of policy. winslow is a smart man, but he can be particularly difficult and eccentric judge, with an unpredictable temper. winslow's ascent to the bench pre-dates the suozzites, so there is no issue that he is anything but politically neutral. Again, the fact that annual reassessment is a disaster from the standpoint of the taxpayer is an aspect of the reassessment case which they county should consider revisiting through an application to the court. winslow is not some one who will per se favor the county over a union. he is more of a wild card. a very wild wild card.

[Knowledgable Guest]

After not ever recvng a response to a Small Claims Assessment Review hearing foul up by the Assessor's Oiffice. And after hearing all the excuses of lost files, missing property size measurements, overburdened staff, etc. And after killing a few more trees over 4 1/2 months to send the Assessor and ARC duplcate after duplicate copies of my still unanswered complaint, I went to find Mr. Borin and his Office to hand deliver my next deposit of wasted paper, ink and my time.

I was referred to the third floor at 1 West Street across from the old Budget Office. There I found an empty cubicle about 4 feet by 4 feet that was described as Mr. Borin's Office "whenever he is in" ,,, the lone voice said indicating that she did not expect his apperance often, and his place of "work" window dressing.

To abolish that Assessment Review Office would be an achievement, and believe me no loss. Currently, Assessment Review relies on the Assessor's Office to cover the Assessor's own mistakes without ever tripping over one another, therefore not assisting the taxpayer in any way.. Wake up - it's a planned sham!!!javascript:emoticon(':roll:')

I'd like to start the bulldozer.

In a world of the two-faced and rather gullible employer willing to be crooked as in, if we can get away with it, then it must be right, and a union with a tainted, crooked history that is deserving of its dues payers because they do not demand more and it anxious to "deal", do you think Winslow will search for the truth in his court, or play the legal game. Give me a statute to stand on and I'll do any damn thing to please the big guy.

You appear to have some knowledge of the court. Do I know you?

[Glen Borin Strikes Again!]

After not ever recvng a response to a Small Claims Assessment Review hearing foul up by the Assessor's Oiffice. And after hearing all the excuses of lost files, missing property size measurements, overburdened staff, etc. And after killing a few more trees over 4 1/2 months to send the Assessor and ARC duplcate after duplicate copies of my still unanswered complaint, I went to find Mr. Borin and his Office to hand deliver my next deposit of wasted paper, ink and my time.

I was referred to the third floor at 1 West Street across from the old Budget Office. There I found an empty cubicle about 4 feet by 4 feet that was described as Mr. Borin's Office "whenever he is in" ,,, the lone voice said indicating that she did not expect his apperance often, and his place of "work" window dressing.

To abolish that Assessment Review Office would be an achievement, and believe me no loss. Currently, Assessment Review relies on the Assessor's Office to cover the Assessor's own mistakes without ever tripping over one another, therefore not assisting the taxpayer in any way.. Wake up - it's a planned sham!!!javascript:emoticon(':roll:')

Amazing... This should be a freaking pulitzer prize winning story. Are you saying that Mr. Borin is a "no show" at this job. Funny, 16 or so tax assessors under his watch when he was chief of staff in NYC Department of Finance took bribes left and right, and defrauded the City out of two hundred million dollars of revenue. This guy sounds like a winner. Amazing, how Borin landed a job in Nassau only a month before these assessors were indicted. Somebody ought to do a story about this fellow. Sniff around a little bit. Stink seems to follow him wherever he goes.

ARC supposedly has a staff of 40 and a budget of around $14 million. They have given away more in three years than Gullotta gave away in 10. I guess this is a good thing for the taxpayers

[jus'like dem good ol dayz]

ARC supposedly has a staff of 40 and a budget of around $14 million. They have given away more in three years than Gullotta gave away in 10. I guess this is a good thing for the taxpayers

Is anybody involved with the Nassau ARC getting greased like the assessors were who were supervised by Mr. Borin at his previous employment in the NYC Department of Finance? Amazing how the stench from NYC just follows those crackerjack city people wherever they go! Shouldn't Wtzman (or his chief deputy, yuck, yuck) or Suozzi or Levinson or Rice be investigating this? Guess not.

[Brown Sugar]

We need more blacks in the County. Ask Kearse.

[suozzi nyc dream]

Suozzi is in love with NYC. He hired all of his flunkies from people who could not cut it in City Government, or who were scandalized, so here is Tom Suozzi's NYC Dream:


It’s Official: City Is Tops in Taxation
New York City has long had a notorious reputation for high taxes, but a new official analysis shows just how much the city stands out in this regard: State and local taxes swallow $9.02 out of every $100 in household and business income, putting New York’s tax burden far above those of the ght other American cities with populations over one million.

[SUozzi v Marcellino]

in order to curry favor with Spitzer, Suozzi has plans to run against Uncle Carl. Wtach this brewing soon or brewing-ton.

[c hahn and hany child]

suozzola is styaing right here u all