Why doesn't anyone ever post here?

[Evenhanded]

This section is the second to last in posting activity. Why is that?

[Take the high road]

There is enough brawling to go around for everyone in the Republican board and elsewhere. That's why.
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[Evenhanded]

LOL, I guess your right. ( correct that is. )

[politico1]

people are bored by Dems! LOL

[JAFO]

Those bickering Republicans look just like the bickering Democrats used to look on the national scene.

Just goes to show what a turn in fortunes has occurred, right?

The Dems are relatively unified under Suozzi/Jacobs.

The Reps are bitterly divided since Joe Mondello ran Gulotta and all other dissenters out of the party. I hear there's more divisivness to come in the local GOP. Ought to make for even better more virtolic posts.

Can't wait.

[RealConservative]

I'll tell you why no one posts here. It's because at l Republicans can argue amongst each other even if it is in public! Democrats can't even admit that the previous Phildanderer-in-Chief did anything wrong, ever!

Besides there is already a Kool-Aid Drinkers web site where the Dems can continually tell the world how downtrodden and miserable everything and everybody is! Terry McAuliffe et all are the only ones who should make money (especially if it isn't legal - see Her Highnass Mde. Hillary and cattle futures).

You can bet if Der Slickmster was a Conservative Republican, he'd have been gone at sundown on Feb. 28 (love you Monica). Remember Bob Packwood??? LOL

Thanks for letting me waste my time in this area,
RC

[Real Democrats]

You call yourself a real conservative and bring up Packwood...how about Savings and Loan...umm I believe GW had some involvement with that. That had more of an effect with the state of the country's economy then some Senator's infidelities. I mean the economy is a "conservative" platform issue isn't it?
Anyway Dems...any good gosip out there? Let me know what you are hearing.

[Spectre]

All the Democrats care about is someone else picking up the tab for minorities who get them elected. Free campaign money.

Business making to much money without enough oppressed uneducated minorities working there ???

Easy answer: Get Democrats and Liberal Groups to push legislation through clamping down on the business so the lay off everyone and shut down. No more people making a living especially the middle class workers, hell the minorities (not working beforehand) are already recving tax money to sit home and do nothing anyway, are unaffected.


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[darkhorse]

All the Republicans care about is someone else picking up the tab for corporations who get them elected. Free campaign money.

Working people making too much money without enough ivy league educated WASPS working there???

Easy answer: Get Republicans and Conservative groups to push legislation clamping down on the working people so the community is ruined and businesses go bust.

Better yet, subsidize the businesses to leave the country. No more people making a living, especially, the middle-class - actually the middle-class of today are those making over one-million dollars, hell the billionaires (not working beforehand) are already recving tax breaks to sit at country clubs and do nothing anyway, are unaffected.

[hueylong]

Nice stereotyping. Might I suggest joining the local KKK. There always looking for wise and intelligent people like yourself Spectre.
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[Windowshade]

Jaffo said that the Dems are fairly unified under Suozzi/Jacob...

Was he referring to Doug Jacob, the Town of Babylon Chief Financial Officer who was convicted on 8 counts of misfiling financial statements?

Why would someone like Doug Jacob, who Steve Bellone made the only other contact between the town and the auditor, be a unifying figure?

I think that Doug Jacob is actually dividing people and causing them to question the legitimacy of the Democrats.

Perhaps he means unifying because the Town of Babylon's Democratic Committee is a big pool of money that Democrats from all over the County can draw on to get elected with???

[Windowshade]

P.S. No one posts here anymore because too many people were telling truths about the Democrats in Babylon.

Richard Schaffer probably told all the people with patronage jobs that they would be in trouble if they kept the free, grassroots dialogue flowing here.

If you have friends who work at Town Hall in Babylon, you should ask them to tell you how much they like it or do not like it. You might here some interesting stories...

[Rudy Fusco]

Jafo was referring to Judy Jacobs, PO of the Nassau County Legislature (not Doug Jacob of TOB).

[Spectre]

Well first the KKK issue...get real and open your eyes.

For instance if corporations went out of business then who would you work for ?

Take Grumman for example. after over 40 years of tradition and building top notch military aircraft on Long Island, the Democratic Controlled Congress at the time decided to give the contracts for Navy Planes (F-18 Hornet to be specific) to McDonald Douglas in California the home of the high ranking DEMOCRAT committee members over the Long Island Republican Delegation's far superior F-14 aircraft. The move was pure politics.

You might think that the GOP is responsible for all you ailments but be realistic. Republicans believe you work for something...Democrats fell everyone owes them something
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[Spectre]

it is feel not fell.

sorry
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[hueylong]

I wasn't calling you a KKK sympathizer because you support Republicans. I am calling you a racist because of your hideous stereotyping of minorities. By the way if you don't think Republicans get nice pork projects for thr own districts as well you are one of the most naive people alive.
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[Greenie]

That the Green Party of Suffolk has absolutely NO PORK PROJECTS!!!

Vote for us, we haven't been bought or sold out, yet!!!

(And, since we are too creative to need gobs of ill-gotten gain, and we are stubborn and into justice, I imagine we never will be...)

[High road Jr]

Liberty and Justice for some, not all.

Bummer.

[Greenie]

Yeah, we are trying to get liberty and justice for all, but these damn bossy men in suits keep foiling our attempts to create helpful rules and legislation to protect everyone's rights and to protect the sanity of the women them and thr cigar-smoking sons rape!!!!!

[Take the high road]

tell me how you would implement the concept of liberty and justice for all if you were in a position of power?
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[darkhorse]

Outlaw the RTL Party.

[Take the high road]

Smart move. Next we'll have only one party. We can call it "The people's party". We can change the name of congress to "Politboro". The we can put a hammer and sickle on our beloved flag as a warning sign to those who would dare try to start thr own political party.

Maybe we should simply outlaw political morons and buffoons so we don't have to hear remarks like yours.


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[grassroots]

Question?

when you stop a heart from beating, what have you done?, it's a simple question, care to respond

did you know it's been proven that a baby in the womb bng aborted feels pain, do you care?

if a woman say's to her husband if you don't buy me a mercedes benz or recind our pre nuptial agreement, I will abort our baby (true case) , is this a right we should protect?

all you do is refer to rape and incest senarios, when almost all abortions are performed because of "the inconvenience" factor, do you think it's right to deny a baby the opportunity to continue to live, because he or she is simply inconvenient?

are you aware that because of the amount of abortions in this country, soon thr will be more retired persons, then workers who will contribute to social security, and medicare, what will happen to old people in the future?

did you know that right now in South Asia, (Viet Nam) the government is dealing with an epidemic caused by a generation of parents aborting females because they only wanted males, and now there is a 25 to 1 ratio of men to females, they fear that soon men will be fighting( possibly killing one another) over females what impact do you think this will have?

I appreciate your responses, thanks

[demographer]

In the former Soviet Union where multiple abortions were quite common, the aging population is made up of a statistical surge of "pensioners". (We call this baby boomers) The situation is so bad the new countries have to import (immigrant) labor from the former "satellite states".

Italy and other nations now have a declining population (which may be irreversable).

[darkhorse]

Thank you Take the High Road for your even-tempered and civilized response.

Outlawing the RTL Party is a smart move. This way advocates for the RTL platform would no longer be pandered and placated by the political party process.
Pro-lifers will then be compelled to take more direct action.

Instead of bng patronized by RTL party leaders whose only allegiance is to cross-endorsement payoffs by the corporate Republicrat Party, pro-lifers will become relentless lobbyists and behind-the-scenes power brokers. Behind-the-scenes leverage is more powerful than bng distracted by the party-spotlight cherade.

With regards to the Politboro, the current incumbents in Congress routinely have a re-election percentage of over 95%. The Soviet Politboro actually had a lower re-election percentage than Congress!

Thus, our Congress is more dominated by the Republicrat Corporate Agnostic Party than the USSR was by the Communist Athst Party. Corporations are more interested in making money for themselves and thr own interests than in protecting life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for the American people.

As for the American flag, nther you nor I have the audacity to exploit it for the purposes of making a political point. However, since you have violated this patriotic principle, I'll reciprocate by making my flag waving point: the stars of the American flag might as well be replaced by ther dollar signs or corporate logos of the companies that truly control Congress and deliberately usurp the classical liberal ideals of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

As for judging morons and buffoons: it takes one to know one ;-)

[Take the high road]

Sorry if I offended you darkhorse. Sticks and stones and all that. Peace?

I think perhaps I could have chosen different words to express my disbelief (no, outrage) that an American would suggest outlawing a political party in trampling on at the very l, the First Ammendment to the US Constitution (freedom of speech and peaceful assembly). (Footnote: Parties are nowhere mentioned in thre US Constitution.)

In my cynicism, perhaps I should have made my point more direct. That is among the remarks months ago whern many came to believe I was actually an RTL party member which I am not; to wit: Major parties and thr leaders respond to 2 kinds of pressure: Money and votes. It is hard to go head to head against the deep pockets of many government and/or commercial interests. But votes have a different dynamic and can be subject to much more leverage. Often 3 or 5% can sway an election. So if you have the power, use it, don't squander it.

Here is why. Behind the scenes power brokering, although it has its place and function is not powerful enough if you don't have the muscle to back it up. Second, you can get sold out by the "lobbyees" (say legislators, for example) by a more powerful interest. Take for example the LI Senate delegation support en masse of the so called Women's Health Bill which would require the Catholic Church to fund Abortions in violation of its beliefs. Sen Bruno allowed a watered down "conscience clause" in the senate version and Pataki is prepared to sign any bill put on his desk; ther the Senate version or the Assembly version which has no conscience clause at all. Thankfully, the extremist radical feminist groups and the pro abortion lobby have withdrawn support because the Senate bill recognizes at l some value to the unborn New Yorker. The bill could die as a result. But the point is that the well funded abortion industry was able to get this far with the legislation. Pro life lobbyists although extremely active were not able to convince the Senate to stand tall and stand fast in the face of fire (so to speak). To, in other words, take the high road.

The LI senators made thr "choice" and now must face the music.

I appreciate your remarks particularly the term "Classical Liberal ideals". This, to me, is different from "Modern Liberal ideals" practiced by those who claim to be simply liberals. One glaring difference between the two (and this applies not only to liberals) is that life of the unborn does not count among the liberties considered of value.

Back to the RTL. As I said, it is not for sale. It is not looking to profit from cross endorsements. It seeks only to endorse those who will stand in defense of life. Sometimes that can be a major party candidate. Great. But when it is not, then RTL will run its own candidate for those who cannot in good conscience vote for the particular major party candidates because they sell out unborn Americans for thr own gain (20-30 pieces of silver).

So, if ever there was a political group which was void of the influence of the almighty dollar; it is the RTL. If the dollar influence bothers you as much as you convey, by all means, join the Right to Life Party. If you are a true belver in the words "liberty and justice for all" you are welcome in the RTL.
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[darkhorse]

Peace. Thanks for the considerate response and apology.

I'm interested in learning more about the conscience clause. Could you please explain it?

Has the pro-life movement documented the number of abortions provided by LI hospitals and other medical facilities in a given period? Does the state monitor the number of abortions done on LI?

Does the state government provide statistics that compare the number of abortions performed in hospitals and other medical facilities in a given municipality on LI compared to the br cancer rate in that municipality?

Thanks.

[Greenie]

Well, I do not think it would be right to ban the "Right to Life Party." But, I do believe that they should not be allowed to endorse issues, because as a TOTALLY ONE ISSUE party with a huge stand against ONE HALF OF THE POPULATION and a MORAL JUDGEMENT right in thr name, it is unfair for a judge--who is not allowed to share his/her political views--to hold that line.

Reggie Seltzer proposed a lawsuit to fix this wrong once, but I believe she is too overwhelmed trying to save the pine barrens right now.

Also, about the beating heart: I believe it is a SIN to stop a beating heart. I believe that abortion is a sin. (I just don't see a just way for the government to enforce it.) I believe that EATING MEAT is a sin (it is a beating heart, and a pig has a higher IQ than a fetus--and some members of the Right-to-Life Party who post here). I believe that THE DEATH PENALTY IS A SIN.

You did say that stopping a beating heart was a sin, right? Or, is it only innocent beating hearts of species that we believe matter?????????

[Take the high road]

Darkhorse:
"Conscience Clause". In a nutshell the conscience clause is an exception to requirements for the provision of abortions and abortofacient chemicals based upon the objections of the organization or individuals which own and/or operate or otherwise controll a health facility. Typically many hospital and clinics controlled by different churches refused to provide abortions and abortofacient chemicals. The customer is always free to leave and buy an abortion elsewhere.

I am not sure of the number in the case of what hospitals perform abortions and how many. I have a good idea of how many free standing abortuaries exist on long island and are actively seeking customers. Just check the yellow pages. Those ads cost, really cost. Full page color. They get the money from somewhere.

The NYS Dept of Health keeps statistics based on reporting by the abortionists. The DOH also has the reported number of Br Cancer cases on LI by address. But a loose comparison of the two is an unscientific and poor way to conclude a link. One needs much more than just that info. But I think I know where you wanted to go with this so I'll tell it like it is. Long Island has about the highest rate of surgical abortions statewide and is also among the communities which experience the highest rate of br cancer statewide. BE CAREFUL WITH THIS STATISTIC; IT IS FAR FROM CONCLUSIVE. YET, UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS TRUE.

Greenie:
Which half of the population do you claim the RTL party is against? Please respond to this question.

All parties have issues. They are called planks. They make up a platform. (I guess the RTL uses plywood).

I believe Reggie got thrown out of court onto her wrinkled ass more than once. Can't blame her for trying.
30 pieces of silver can go along way.

This is the first time I ever heard somebody compare the IQ of a slab of bacon to a human bng. Are you feeling ok today? Is the heat getting to you?

True pro lifers reject the death penalty. But they are not necessarily vegetarians.
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[grassroots]

I asked the question, what happens when you stop a beating heart?

I never made reference to "sin", which is fundamentally religious, and not the basis of my question

Frankly, we all know what happens when we stop a beating heart, we "intentionally" cause death, some people just don't want to accept this fact, because the truth hurts too much, but sooner or later the truth comes to the surface.

there is a very servere and widely unknow psychologically debilitating condition called PAS (post abortion syndrome) it is guilt based and millions of men and women are treated for it here in America, it's not widely know because publically acknowledging the condition has a adverse affect on the patient's condition.

there are clinics that reach out to PAS victims to treat them, Planned Parenthood does not

[Post Abortion Stress Synd]

Amen!!!

I enjoyed reading your posting, keep up the great work!!! I am fimiliar with Life Centers and the wonderful things done there for women, and men.

It's a topsy tervy world, and a pity people, especially women, don't realize that it's people like you and organizations like yours that really support the rights and health concerns of women. Abortion is so brutal, and in so many ways. Your work to offer alternatives to abortion, and to treat (PASS) victims is essential, wonderful and humanitarian.

Yes we need more pro-life elected leaders!!

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