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South Shore
07-10-2003, 07:15 AM
couldn't have put it better
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Nattydread
07-10-2003, 07:51 AM
For the bush administration and republicans.....

-Ling about Iraq buying nuclear material..NO BIG DEAL
-Ling about WMD to Americans....NO BIG DEAL
-Ling about Iraq threat to America..NO BIG DEAL
-Spending $4Billion a month in Iraq...NO BIG DEAL
-An American soldier killed per day..NO BIG DEAL

BUT IF YOU EVER HAVE A MARITAL AFFAIR ...GOD-DAMMIT THATS GOING TOO FAR!! THAT'S WHERE WE DRAW THE LINE..IMPEACH..INVESTIGATE..HOLD HEARINGS..WE MUST GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS!
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republicusa
07-10-2003, 08:34 AM
Sounds like something that fagg John Kerry would say.
Surprised more dem retards like "should of stayed a housewife, cause thats all I am" Hillary aren't jumping on the anti-Bush bandwagon.
W is a better pres that Slick Willy ever was.
Stop whining and support your country. LEts not be partisan.

concerned
07-10-2003, 02:24 PM
Wake Up Everyone!!

Because one does not agree with the present Bush administration on Iraq doesn't make us anti-American or not in support of our country!!!!

Leave Hillary out of this mess, she doesn't have to say anything because Bush shoots himself in the foot everyday. No one's calling for impeachment of Bush because he lied to the American people on Iraq.

How can we support Bush when he promised us proof of
WMD would be forthcoming and now is hedging?

How can we support him when our young men who serve in Iraq are getting killed everyday like sitting ducks?

What happened to the promises Bush made, mistakes happen, admit it and get our boys out before its too late.
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vet
07-10-2003, 05:26 PM
Hey, @#%$-boy,

Why aren't YOU in Iraq, Afghanistan or Korea?

I support my country AND served AND I think GW is a liar. What about our boys dying after W said the fighting was over? What do you say about that?

Vietnam Vet
07-10-2003, 05:41 PM
John Kerry volunteered for service in the Navy during the Vietnam War, where he served as skipper of a swift boat that patrolled the Mekong Delta. Lt. Kerry was awarded the Silver Star, the Bronze Star with Combat V, three Purple Hearts, the Presidential Unit Citation for Extraordinary Heroism, the National Defense Service Medal, the Vietnam Service Medal, three Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medals, and the Combat Action Ribbon. He is a cofounder of the Vietnam Veterans of America and a life member of the Veterans of Forgn Wars. In the United States Senate, he has led the fight to investigate the fate of POW/MIAs in Vietnam, treat and compensate victims of Agent Orange and study the cause of war-related illnesses in Gulf War veterans.

Dubya went AWOL from the National Guard. As for the rest of his "fagg" chicken hawk supporters, check out:

www.chickenhawkcards.com/

Get your history down before you shoot of your mouth next time you as&hole!

Nattydread
07-10-2003, 06:25 PM
..I don't support party's, people or philosophies...I support whats right and wrong!

You are yet another of those emotional flag waving freaks..who get all teary eyed when bush strike a pose and lament.."bring 'em on". You are not patriotic..you are just caught up in the mood. Not me...I see clearly through that crap!

To disaprove of the current regime in the white house is one of the most positive and patriotic statement any American could make today about thr love and loayalty towards his/her country!
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Real Patriot
07-10-2003, 07:01 PM
"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In ther event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else"

- Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States

republicusa
07-11-2003, 03:10 AM
I assume w, bng a liar you got your facts from TV?
Enough said.
I still support my president even though you don't. Rediculous statements and falicies won't change that.
Oh, and to answer your q about why wasn't I there, I was ahole. Thanks for asking.

vet
07-11-2003, 09:40 AM
republicusa, you're a mindless drone trained to attack the truth. you spit on the flag with your drivel. shame on you.

fu

www.misleader.org

islipdemo
07-11-2003, 10:52 AM
Vet,
A bit harsh from a vet huh?
I am sick from what you wrote. For someone who knows nothing of the true situation, you are quick to judge someone else.
You should be ashamed to call yourself a vet with that attitude. I am not saying Bush is right or wrong. I just think it is a bit early to be judging the Presidents choice. Remember Iraq is the size of CA. ANd to be saying fu to someone who is upholding your right to say fu, you should be ashamed. That is low.

scottyh20
07-26-2003, 06:57 PM
this whole bush is lying thing is so crazy, Clinton was the first PRes to attack Iraq with the argeuent, that he had WMd, only clinton did it on the Eve of his impeachment( can u say wag the dog), hey vet, he put vets in harms way for a lie (WMD) to benefit his impeachment hearing (alot of senators grumbled about impeaching a pres while we had boys in harms way as they should!), only problem was, clinton put them in harms way for that exact reason, have we a short memory.

I am a gulf war veteran...I was there and I have a right to say, and have a duty to say that all americans are free to think (or not think) what they will, but on this lying issue, you guys r really grasping at straws, if bush is a liar, then clinton is a bigger one with a deadly and selfish alterior motive.

As far as soldiers dying in Iraq, I hate to see it, from bng a soldier, and knowing that they are miserable, hot, sweaty, and homesick, doing thier duty, making thr patrols, and dying is terrible. But that arguement that they r dying holds no wieght. We lost hundreds of thousands of men in WWII. Should we have let hitler take over Europe, in order to save our boys from dying? Was that not a noble cause? According to Clinton quotes while he was president, Ejecting Saddam, is a noble cause, only problem was, he didnt have the balls to do it, I just wonder if he had been impeached weekly, we may have been able to rid the world of all rogue didctators and tyrants, seng how Clinton only got tough when his little butt was out on the line, then he would use our boys as a final defense as to giving him an unwarranted break

scottyh20
07-26-2003, 08:16 PM
i saw you guys high fiving each other at the beginning of the post about, marital affair, and the guy seconded it, like "dumb and dumber" 2 rednecks wearing overalls, proving thier stupidity!

Clintons case was not about a marital affair at all, (ignorance). it was about denying paula jones her constitutional right to a hearing in a court of law to her charges that bill clinton sexually harrassed her, unfortunatley for Bill, his behavior, (sabor stabbing monica in the oval office with a cigar) has a legal precedent in a court of law when considering sexual harrassment cases. But i guess Bill was "protecting the constitution" by lying under oath? He's a liberal heroe? Are the american people supposed to be so dumb, that we watch good ole bill cry a little, and we're all supposed to move on? the only time he was really crying was when he thought there was a chance of him bng impeached.

So you guys can try and twist history, but, the day you ever ly under aoth, if you ever do, do you think Bill will be there in your defense saying you lied for good reason?

lets remember, the military kicked out a female for adultery at the same time this whole thing with monica broke, Clinton didn t pardon her, of all the dirty pardons he made, he did not pardon her, one who had the same indescretions that he had? does that tell you something?

scottyh20
07-26-2003, 08:21 PM
loving your country and supporting it, (not blindly, but generally supporting it)
or questionaing your country at every turn, even when it comes to mass murderers who kill for no reason than self preservation...? Ooops, (clinton vs Foster) I may have hit a nerve,, i see dems, have a habit of defending murderers!

NYIndependence
07-27-2003, 04:48 AM
Quote:-Ling about Iraq buying nuclear material..NO BIG DEAL
Bush said that British Intelligence learned that Saddam was seeking Uranium from Africa. He was right. British Intelligence did share this with the United States. Note that Bush did not say that Saddam Hussn is seeking nuclear materials from Africa, he said that British Intelligence is reporting it, which they did.

I believe it is spelt "Lying". Your educators must be very proud.

Quote:-Ling about WMD to Americans....NO BIG DEAL
So far, WMDs have not been found, nor have the been proven to be non-existent. Therefore at this point, Bush has lied about WMDs just as much as you have.

Quote:-Ling about Iraq threat to America..NO BIG DEAL
Saddam did posess airborne drones with the ability to reach Europe and possibly the United States. These drones had the capability of dropping a nuclear weapon or disease. Bush simply stated that they exist and how long it would take for them to reach Europe. In respect to al-Qaeda, imagine if you can, the meeting between Saddam and his chief of security on September 12, 2001. The President of Iraq wants to know what is known about those who have just immolated downtown New York, and his secret police chief says, in effect, "I've never heard of them 'O Great One'. Never met them ther." If that had been his answer, the wretched man would not have lived out the day.

Quote:-Spending $4Billion a month in Iraq...NO BIG DEAL
We are spending $4 billion in Iraq to find the WMDs, restore energy and water (which has been almost fully restored), and rebuild the infrastructure. These are all things that you criticize the President for and when he tries to fix them, you criticize him for spending money. It is plainly obvious that your motivation does not stem from sympathy with the Iraqi people, nor does it stem from an affinity for American troops. It is obviously your desire to unseat Bush that motivates your every political action, whether you agree with his policies or not.

Quote:-An American soldier killed per day..NO BIG DEAL
What gives you the impression that this is no big deal?
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CitizenCan
07-27-2003, 05:06 AM
Scottyh20
"loving your country and supporting it, (not blindly, but generally supporting it)
or questionaing your country at every turn, even when it comes to mass murderers who kill for no reason than self preservation...? Ooops, (clinton vs Foster) I may have hit a nerve,, i see dems, have a habit of defending murderers! "
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1. Questioning your elected officials as you yourself question democrats?

2. Republicans are as guilty of the questioning and conspiracy visions dance in thr heads to the same beat as they dance within the Democrats.

Enough is enough!
I believe the Average American is turned off by the constant barking from both sides. I believe both parties know this and don't give a damn. They want voters that will blindly follow thr respective illusions and vled self serving agenda's, not the good of the American People!

Our Political system is about equal with a pyramid scheme. Those lower on the totem pole help thr senior partners for the opportunity for the turn at the gravy spoon.




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scottyh20
07-29-2003, 03:36 AM
Citz, lets not turn this debate into generalities. We're talking about bush lying about nukes in Iraq. Any sane person would look at all the evidence over the last 15 years, quotes by clinton and bush and blair, and see that there was ample evidence, (unless ofcourse you believe the Blair lied, Bush lied, Clinton lied, Powell lied, the 1998 weapons inpectors lied when they got pulled out by clinton, Saddam hussien lied, M. Albright lied.

keep in mind they would have to all lie, with the intention to later attack iraq. The only problem is, half of those people who said that Iraq had WMD opposed the war later on.

What gives? They knew he had them, (as they are quoted as saying it prior) yet they didn not want to rid us of the threat? As an American, a patriotic one, I do not want to give our enemies the ability to kill us. Democrats seem to want to even the playing fld with our enemies. That makes me patriotic, and dems, traders!

CitizenCan
07-29-2003, 04:48 AM
"Did you witness GW Bush performing any National Guard Service between May 1972 and October 1973, in ther Alabama or Texas? If so, you could be eligible for thousands of dollars in unclaimed reward money!! Here are the details of the Texas and Alabama rewards."

awolbush.com

What do you hear of the News Media denouncing and proving this accusation as false? Fox NEWS should trot the proof triumphantly out for all the public to see.

They do not, because ?



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Todays Number is
08-20-2003, 08:49 PM
Today the number of U.S. soldiers killed since the war end - er, I mean, "the end of hostilities" (Pres. Bush) on May 1st, 2003, reached a total of:

65

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This sad update is brought to you by a concerned citizen, not by the Administration, who'd probably try and deny or "spin" it - oh that's right, Rebublican lies aren't referred to a "spin" after the horrible negative connotation that Pres. Clinton gave to the word...

vietnamvet2
08-21-2003, 06:02 AM
I spent 12 months in the bush with the 173 Airborne Brigade, seen plenty of action and came out only with ACM(with V). Navy and Air Force were notorious for giving out medals that the army wouldn't even consider. Riding on the Mekong River in a boat was pretty easy duty compared with the rest of us. He was also a vietnam veteran who was against the war, so don't forget it