Babylon Village & Central Fire

[PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST]

Well, Babylon Village is pulling out of Central.

I guess the Mayor and the trustees would rather put a few dollars ahead of the safety of our Village residents!

But wait, I have an idea!! If they Mayor and trusty side kick/ trustee/still thinks-he- is-chief pal would forego bellying up all the time, they could put that money towards Central.

Or are they getting thr marching orders from Steve Levy through Joe Williams thru "Wacko"

Well, Babylon Village is pulling out of Central.

I guess the Mayor and the trustees would rather put a few dollars ahead of the safety of our Village residents!

But wait, I have an idea!! If they Mayor and trusty side kick/ trustee/still thinks-he- is-chief pal would forego bellying up all the time, they could put that money towards Central.

Or are they getting thr marching orders from Steve Levy through Joe Williams thru "Wacko"
Wacko? Who is Wacko??

Well, Babylon Village is pulling out of Central.

I guess the Mayor and the trustees would rather put a few dollars ahead of the safety of our Village residents!

But wait, I have an idea!! If they Mayor and trusty side kick/ trustee/still thinks-he- is-chief pal would forego bellying up all the time, they could put that money towards Central.

Or are they getting thr marching orders from Steve Levy through Joe Williams thru "Wacko"

Maybe if you told us the whole story, instead of talking in circles we would get your point. Talk about a "Wacko".

Well, Babylon Village is pulling out of Central.

I guess the Mayor and the trustees would rather put a few dollars ahead of the safety of our Village residents!

But wait, I have an idea!! If they Mayor and trusty side kick/ trustee/still thinks-he- is-chief pal would forego bellying up all the time, they could put that money towards Central.

Or are they getting thr marching orders from Steve Levy through Joe Williams thru "Wacko"
Wacko? Who is Wacko??

The author of this thread seems a little "wacky".

Well, Babylon Village is pulling out of Central.

I guess the Mayor and the trustees would rather put a few dollars ahead of the safety of our Village residents!

But wait, I have an idea!! If they Mayor and trusty side kick/ trustee/still thinks-he- is-chief pal would forego bellying up all the time, they could put that money towards Central.

Or are they getting thr marching orders from Steve Levy through Joe Williams thru "Wacko"
Wacko? Who is Wacko??

The author of this thread seems a little "wacky".
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Brad Maier's nickname is "Wacko"

I guess Brad is making his dept go to county control because he is the dep commish

[Guest1001]

Who said that they're going to County Control? They're not that stupid.. There are other places....

like who?

[FF 454]

To the person who started this, They went to West not the county. Do you really think Levy cares who dispatchers Babylon. Please get your facts right. If you do, I have some nice dry land in the Great South Bay to sell let me know

I guess that Babylon can't be to far off the word on the street is that 2 other departments may be leaving also.

[guest1001]

Wait til they get someplace else and expect things to be done "thr way". They'll be back at BCFA before you can blink your eyes. Remember what happened to Deer Park when they left?

[AFFF]

The word on the street is at a dead end! It is only Babylon. They, in there very tiny what they call a mind, think that everyone else is right there supporting them. No one is backing you. You dont give a sh*$ about no one but yourselves. Hey Babylon, how do you feel now that you screwed over the remaining towns in Babylon. Maybe the town chiefs will let you in thr club now?? Maybe all your Chiefs can remain sober enough to realize what you did! :lol:

There going to 4-2-0 :)

[guest1001]

I heard they're going to 9-1-0 Hampton Dispatch.

It's spelled sh@% not sh*$, stupid

Talk about Screwing people over I wonder if the resident of Wyandanch knows that Central Alarm is charging them twice $100.000.00 for fire protection and $100,000.00 for rescue

[Guest1001]

Don't blame BCFA. Blame the Wyandanch Volunteer Fire Co., Inc. for not providing the EMS services that every other fire department in the Town of Babylon does.

I don't think the street is as dead end as one person thinks.
The additional poor statements only add fuel to the flames.
Obviously someone with an old score to settle. Get real..

did babylon really go to west disp?

[1-0-40]

did babylon really go to west disp?
Over Gil Hanse's dead body will Babylon leave Central!

[Jr Fire Marshal from BV]

After that happens, I should be next in line (bng from Babylon village and all)

[Scooby Doo jr jr fire mar]

And after all of you go then I'll be the new fire marshall

[Dora the spanish fire mar]

Oh no no no I will be the next fire marshall, because I am a female and i can speak 2 languages. Can you!!!

Gil Who?????

[The Drunk Tank]

Who has the BEST bartender?

FIREWORKS AND PARTY IN BABYLON TONIGHT!

YOU HAVE A NICE DAY!

What would be interesting is if anyone could explain the motivation behind this move along with factual budgetary details, but that won't happen because all involved enjoy rumours, backstabbing and blowing thr own horn, too much.

I heard they were going to switch to West . Who knows...who really cares... :?

I heard they were going to switch to West . Who knows...who really cares... :?
I hear it's a done deal according to the Mayor.

[Central Info]

Is Barbara Bender still associated with them? also Loraine? Both are real winners....

Is Barbara Bender still associated with them? also Loraine? Both are real winners....

Oh really, what did they win???????

Is Barbara Bender still associated with them? also Loraine? Both are real winners....

Oh really, what did they win???????

is barbara disp 4? she has to get that mic out of her mouth, can barely make out what she says!

That's not the only thing she has to get out of her mouth. Opps, I mean, Throat!

WWW.THROATED.COM

The previous idiot wrote: That's not the only thing she has to get out of her mouth. Opps, I mean, Throat!

You obviously have no clue of who you are talking about!!!!
Nice thing to say about someone you dont even know!!!!

The previous idiot wrote: That's not the only thing she has to get out of her mouth. Opps, I mean, Throat!

You obviously have no clue of who you are talking about!!!!
Nice thing to say about someone you dont even know!!!!

Don't let it bother you, most of the posts on these things are made by uninformed idiots that have no balls. If they did they'd address thr issues to someone in person.

is barbara disp 4? she has to get that mic out of her mouth, can barely make out what she says!
She is Dispatcher 8 and she's a hottie :wink:

is barbara disp 4? she has to get that mic out of her mouth, can barely make out what she says!
She is Dispatcher 8 and she's a hottie :wink:
Lurene is disp 4... she's as big as a house :lol:

[webernation]

we are a department stuck in the 1940's. drunks as chiefs, radio screamers, no tactics, burn'em down to the foundation.

carll and main!!!!!, carll and main!!! Such excitement.

we are a department stuck in the 1940's. drunks as chiefs, radio screamers, no tactics, burn'em down to the foundation.

carll and main!!!!!, carll and main!!! Such excitement.

they have to have fires for all that

Get all the facts before you post a blog. And don't you have anything better to do? The chiefs are drunks and also they have quite a little pharmacy there of other stuff as well.

So the pea-brain trustee, still-thinks-he-is-chief is the ANTI-CENTRAL.

Well, lets look at what his career is. A state parks worker...WOW

I bet if he did not show up for work, millions of lives would be in jeopardy.

And maybe some litter would remain in the parks!

Put him down in Central for a day and he would be stuttering and stammering for the rest of his life.

I would even bet he is unaware of his own departments procedures, much less all member departments

to the "guest" get your facts straight sound like you are frustrated that you can't become a chief and that you must have a career that you are able to walk on water that you can put someone down but let's get the facts about central alarm why are there at l two other departments looking to leave central ???? who are you..... you do not had to hide as a "guest" if you got the balls show it.....

whats everyone so upset about. is it personal or business. let babylon go and the supposed "2 other depts." get over it

babylon just wants to think that others want to leave with them, which is not the case. Nobody else is going anywhere. This is just our department top so called leaders, thinking that everyone sides with them. Get over it boys, you are out on that lonely limb by yourselves, and that limb is starting to break!!! You know we will never get a service better than the one we already have, so why dont YOU get over it and stop listening to the little political wannabes, and ex-has beens, who are just jealous that they didn't amount to ANYTHING!!!!! :P

Why all the personal attacks? Your statements here mean nothing they are anonymous, show up at a meeting and speak your mind.

you really think central alarms is great.... this place is totally mismanaged is it fair to have us pay out over six figures for our department that has less called then some of our other town departments for the same price... look this is our tax dollars, and let's say that west is dispatching our quality of service will not diminish but it would improve and that will be a plus for us and our community that is were it counts.......

First off, it's central alarm, not alarms.

BCFA has flaws, one of them is that they don't pay the dispatchers anything.

But as far as dispatching, they're one of the best. They're better than FRES, 100 times better than Smithtown. What do you think you're going to get at West .

I think that BCFA displays professionalism, discipline, and self respect, yeah so they screw up once in a while but hey, who doesn't? Those guys work hard over there to please 10 different departments...now lets do some math hear...if you have 10 departments with lets say on avg of 200 members per dept that makes 2000 different opinions that they have to deal with...give them a break....do you really think that west will give them the service that BCFA does? I think not.

only thing i dont like about BCFA is that they say OK ove the radio.. What happened to roger, affirmative, signal 20??? Whats the story behind OK??

other than that, everything else is cream cheese!

i dont think the move is representative of the dispatchers or bfca in general. the service is fine, but when you talk about the increases that have gone on over the past few years, you have to take a step back. maybe those increases aren't filtering down from the top people.there aren't many companies handing out those types of increases(if any) this day and age.

So the pea-brain trustee, still-thinks-he-is-chief is the ANTI-CENTRAL.

Well, lets look at what his career is. A state parks worker...WOW

I bet if he did not show up for work, millions of lives would be in jeopardy.

And maybe some litter would remain in the parks!

Put him down in Central for a day and he would be stuttering and stammering for the rest of his life.

I would even bet he is unaware of his own departments procedures, much less all member departments


How can you be talking about this person the way you are you think he got to be chief and then trustee without working for it, and to say that he does'nt know his department members and procedures. Do you realize how stupid you sound. Just what you said is enough to say he got to places you probably could get to.

[guest1001]

How can you be talking about this person the way you are you think he got to be chief and then trustee without working for it, and to say that he does'nt know his department members and procedures. Do you realize how stupid you sound. Just what you said is enough to say he got to places you probably could get to.

You can talk about sounding stupid?

[lifd1]

First off, it's central alarm, not alarms.

BCFA has flaws, one of them is that they don't pay the dispatchers anything.

But as far as dispatching, they're one of the best. They're better than FRES, 100 times better than Smithtown. What do you think you're going to get at West .

oh boy "alarm" sorry for adding a "s" first thing is that they do not pay the dispatchers anything then why are we going to have to pay a minimal of $ 100,000.00 a year with ght others departments where is the money going to, b.c.f.a. they are housed in a town facility free of cost maybe they should become town employees and take a civil service title and not a not for profit entity that belves that they do not have to answer to anyone especially to the fire districts that they dispatch for.... that is just the money flaws of BCFA they have many flaws that needs to be fix

I agree that BCFA is a bit pricey but lets face the truth, your not going to get better service anywhere else on long island. And thr prices are rising just like everything else in America, IE. gas, electric, the price of homes, and soon enough, other fire departments dispatching for more than themselves.

OK, So it's not the $100,000.00.

I just don't like anyone down there, so there!

[crazy billy]

BUUURRRRPPPP!!!!!!!!


"3-17-0, 1-2-30..." BUUUURRRRP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"GO AHEAD THIRTY""

" I NEED ....(VOMIT SOUNDS FROM THE BACKGROUND)... THE LOCATION OF THE NEAREST WATERING HOLE?" BUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

" IS THE O.B.I. STILL OVER ON THE BEACH?"

" THIRTY CAN YOU GO TO YOUR MOBILE YOU ARE LOW AND SCRATCHY!""

" I AM LOW AND DIRTY AINT i? BuuuuuuuuuuuuuRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!![/b]

[CRAZY BILLY]

HEY EVERYBODY, I NEED A DRINK. I'LL TRADE YOU A BEER FOR A RIDE IN MY CHIEF CAR................... I REALLY WISH THIS WAS A JOKE BUT IT IS NOT... WE NEED TO DUMP 30 AND 32 USELESS.

[willwork4drinks]

Everybody we disagree with is drunk or incompetent, I mean they must be if they can't see how smart and superior I am ! Right?

Opinions are like @$$ho!e$ everyone has one, and except for mine they all stink !!!

Cheers

[crazy billy]

your right opinions are like a- holes, and so are you!!!!!!!!!

you know what else everyone has ??? Naked pictures of your mother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


anyon ewho would defend a blithering drunken idiot isnt worth the load his daddy squirted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

your right opinions are like a- holes, and so are you!!!!!!!!!

you know what else everyone has ??? Naked pictures of your mother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


anyon ewho would defend a blithering drunken idiot isnt worth the load his daddy squirted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


no wonder your user name is "crazy billy" this last response is the most childish comment that can be made..... if that all you can come up with then you are just a blithering idiot...... If you have problems with any of the four chiefs that are up there bring it up to a company officer/warden or at a department meeting and tell them how you feel and if you feel that one or more individuals are just drunken idiot and not doing the right thing firematically they should be held responsible for they actions.

name calling is childish, safety is paramount for all fire fighters and the community that we protect to the best of our abilities.

Maybe the NYS Comptroller should do an audit of Central's books!

[another guest]

Is it true that Wyandanch Amb and Wyandanch Fire each pay over $100,000 a year to BCFA? If it is, this seems like double billing since each FD that also runs Amb pays about the same. In fact, all residents in the Town of Babylon, except those living in Amityville and E. Farm are bng double billed for the same services since each pays to BCFA thru thier FD taxes, and each pays thier share of the County taxes that pays for FRES.

[D Letterman]

Can we have an intelligent discussion?

There are many things that make up a good fire department.

I would like to do a survey to get the top 10 of the Town of Babylon!

Of course we need firefighters, apparatus and fire houses but lets have everyone reply to get a best top ten list. I will throw out a few ideas;

Who has the best fire house? This can be broken down into the best apparatus rooms, best office facilities, best meeting halls or the best bars!

Who has the best racing team?

Who has the best apparatus? When you consider this, include excessive apparatus as a minus.

Who has the best softball and soccer field /

Who has the best communication center?

Who offers the best training for thr members?

Who has the best fire prevention committee?

Who provides the best ambulance service for thr community?

What Benevolent/Exempt organization is the best?

What fire department actually gets to the fire and puts the fire out before having to call every surrounding department to gaze in wide wonder?

Who has the best golf team?

Who has the best pool party?

Who has the best picnic?

Who has the best band?

If you canthnk of more, please list them.

I know some of these things might not be fire related, but some village trustee, Town Board member or Commissioner has been convinced they are.

Waiting to hear from you!!!

Best Golf Team-Babylon
Best Pool Party Babylon
Best Softball field/soccer field-Deer Park
Best Racing team-North Lindenhurst
Best Picinc- Wyandanch
Best Apparatus room--well Babylon can't even buy a truck they like because it will not fit!!
Best Rescue-Well, it ain't Babylon
Best fire Prevention committee-E Farmingdale
Best Band-Babylon (or at l the largest to go to the State)

your right opinions are like a- holes, and so are you!!!!!!!!!

you know what else everyone has ??? Naked pictures of your mother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


anyon ewho would defend a blithering drunken idiot isnt worth the load his daddy squirted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I stand corrected everyone doesn't have an @$$ho!& yours had to be sewn shut after your boyfrnd tore it apart. You've been angry and mindless ever since. Grow some balls.

Wow, from the last few posts, we are really solving something here now aren't we???

Can anyone provide 5 serious reasons Babylon should drop Central?

Can anyone provide 5 serious reasons Babylon should stay with Central?

If it's the money then does anyone know the difference in cost?
Where does Babylon's budget come from - taxes, 2%, fund drive ??? How much from each and what is Central paid from?
What is Babylon annual budget? What percentage of that does Central cost?

This may be too much real data for those who want to just call each other names, but if you want to have a serious discussion you need these facts. If you don't have them then you're just speculating.

Wow, from the last few posts, we are really solving something here now aren't we???

Can anyone provide 5 serious reasons Babylon should drop Central?

Can anyone provide 5 serious reasons Babylon should stay with Central?

If it's the money then does anyone know the difference in cost?
Where does Babylon's budget come from - taxes, 2%, fund drive ??? How much from each and what is Central paid from?
What is Babylon annual budget? What percentage of that does Central cost?

This may be too much real data for those who want to just call each other names, but if you want to have a serious discussion you need these facts. If you don't have them then you're just speculating.

babylon's budget is approx. $300,000.00 a year which out of that more than $100,000.00 goes to central take approx.another
$60,000.00 out which goes to the water authority for hydrant rentals. that leaves babylon with less than $140,000.00 to operate for the rest of the year for repairs, equipment, gear and uniforms etc. etc. does,nt leave very much does it.

[guest100]

central sucks they fire people and then they hire them back.

central sucks they fire people and then they hire them back.

[guest #2]

Try cancelling 1 of your 2 dinners..or cut back on sending everyone to the state parade......try using your monet wisely instead of pissing it away

babylon's budget is approx. $300,000.00 a year which out of that more than $100,000.00 goes to central take approx.another
$60,000.00 out which goes to the water authority for hydrant rentals. that leaves babylon with less than $140,000.00 to operate for the rest of the year for repairs, equipment, gear and uniforms etc. etc. does,nt leave very much does it.



Did you forget about the $118,000 that you get for the 2 protection areas at the town beaches!! Why doesnt the village give you that instead of 1/3 of it. Any repairs for the fire trucks/ambulance you dont have to pay for, since the village mechanic fixes them. You dont pay rent, lipa bill, gasoline. You only have ONE ambulance to stock. Fire equipment...how many workers do you have??

If you think babylon pisses money away you clearly havn't seen thr HQ, apparatus or gear. Not that's it's bad, it does the job, but compared to what many Dept.'s on LI have they are pretty modest.

What about other TOB dept's budgets? If the previous posts are accurate then central makes up about 1/3 or 1/4 of BFD budget.
I think it is probably a tenth of some of the others budgets. Does that mean anything?

[guest1-2-?]

ladies and gentlemen. lets squash all the backstabbing and the cutting out at the knees bs. Everybody has nothing good to say about babylon at all. If people step back for a moment and look at there own fire dept. There are more things that THEY should worry about, then Little Babylon. You all talk about Our chiefs bng drunks, and , as i read, A little pharmacy. I can remember a certain chief who had a bad coke habit breaking into certain stations and ripping off soda machine money and other things to support his habit. I can also remember certain guys driving a fire truck drunk and hitting a car and killing someone. You all know that after any parade, or function. most people jump on the rig and speed home. I have personally seen members fall down drunk, get in there chief cars and drive away. its really sad that we, as a brotherhood, are tearing each other up over a decision that was made. Right or wrong it was made. BCFA is an excellent service no doubt. The friendships that have been made between BFD and thr nghboring depts. Is now under scrutiny because of this bullcrap. I for one am very disappointed with the lot of you for what is bng said here. sorry for the preaching guys, but please stop attacking Babylon, and look in your own backyards. I think they will be more interesting than ours.

[1-2-?]

oh and as for the person who said they should throw 30 and 32 out. let me tell you. 32 is probably one of the best chiefs in the town. you all know who he is and his qualifications.at fire scenes i have seen people practically run to him with open arms. these are probably the same people that are throwing the daggers at his back. and as for 30. we all not he cannot talk on the radio. its no secret. even he is aware of it. but as a chief officer he is one of the most competent men i have seen in a long time. yeah he likes to party, but im sure everybody who is posting stuff here has partied a little too hard as well. ricky and tony are excellent chiefs and i am proud of them both. so now i have completed my bitching here. cant wait to here the response from this. I,m sure it will be full of insults, but then that is what is to be expected.

oh and as for the person who said they should throw 30 and 32 out. let me tell you. 32 is probably one of the best chiefs in the town. you all know who he is and his qualifications.at fire scenes i have seen people practically run to him with open arms. these are probably the same people that are throwing the daggers at his back. and as for 30. we all not he cannot talk on the radio. its no secret. even he is aware of it. but as a chief officer he is one of the most competent men i have seen in a long time. yeah he likes to party, but im sure everybody who is posting stuff here has partied a little too hard as well. ricky and tony are excellent chiefs and i am proud of them both. so now i have completed my bitching here. cant wait to here the response from this. I,m sure it will be full of insults, but then that is what is to be expected.

i'm on your side

[quote=1-2-?]oh and as for the person who said they should throw 30 and 32 out. let me tell you. 32 is probably one of the best chiefs in the town. you all know who he is and his qualifications.at fire scenes i have seen people practically run to him with open arms. these are probably the same people that are throwing the daggers at his back. and as for 30. we all not he cannot talk on the radio. its no secret. even he is aware of it. but as a chief officer he is one of the most competent men i have seen in a long time. yeah he likes to party, but im sure everybody who is posting stuff here has partied a little too hard as well. ricky and tony are excellent chiefs and i am proud of them both. so now i have completed my bitching here. cant wait to here the response from this. I,m sure it will be full of insults, but then that is what is to be expected.

lololol

[1-2-sumthin]

32= useless pant load - grow up slacker frat boy. :lol: :lol:

[Avollie]

I have an honest question regaurding this, I am not bad mouthing any1 i would just like to know why is it when Babylon Central dispatchs it sound slike they are eating the mic? Some1 told its because they have to wear a headset is this true if so why dont they just adjust it so we can understand them???

1-2-? You are correct on all accounts. Babylon is no different from surrounding Dept.'s. You need only look at other threads on this board to see similar discontent and backstabbing at several of the others.

What we have on this board is an open forum where people can say whatever they want without any recourse. Half of it is just $h!t stirring by people who don't even believe what they are posting but they want to see the responses.Take this thing for what it is worth.

Some try to use it as a legitimate forum for serious debate (and this issue obviously warrants debate based on the strong feelings involved) and those posts are intelligent. The questions posed are real and deserve answers. Most however are just a bunch of BS by cowards who wouldn't say $h!t if they had a mouthful in public. Ignore them.

Make believe your standing in the ambulance bay while "court is in session", it's the same thing, the only people bng talked about are the one's who aren't there !!! You learn quick to ignore the one's who talk behind everyone's back. They show no leadership and only serve to demoralize everyone. Occasionally, you find a few who say the same things regardless who is standing around, and of these you may find one or two who actually make sense. Those are the good ones !!!

[BFDFF]

One important thing to remember is that all of this talk is about something that hasn't happened yet. While BFD wil most likely pull out of Central Alarm, no official anouncement has been made and no contracts have been signed. All of the discussion here is based on speculation about how and why this is happening. So why not wait for the powers that be to actualy say something instead of having this discussion about the "I heard someone say that someone they know was in a meeting" rumor mill.

I think we'd all be better served by facts instead of speculation.

One important thing to remember is that all of this talk is about something that hasn't happened yet. While BFD wil most likely pull out of Central Alarm, no official anouncement has been made and no contracts have been signed. All of the discussion here is based on speculation about how and why this is happening. So why not wait for the powers that be to actualy say something instead of having this discussion about the "I heard someone say that someone they know was in a meeting" rumor mill.

I think we'd all be better served by facts instead of speculation.

I beg to differ with you...the Chief already went to Central and told him that Babylon was leaving to go to West . So yes, it is official!

[ghost of donnie steele]

this shit would never happen if station 0 was up and running!! stop by and have the new station 0 chief have a meeting!!! i'll be watching!!!!!!!

[ghost of donnie steele]

p.s. you guys are all assholes!!!!!

[1-2-?]

well..apparently most of this talk is coming from within our own ranks. sounds to me like its a few people who always shoot thr mouths off, got into trouble, and oh, i dont know, maybe was suspended a few times. Gee i wonder who we are talking about? hmmmm sounds like maybe 3 or 4 people. Nuff said

[Public Safety ??]

I think BCFA has outlived itself - They talk about public safety and thats thr #1 priority .. Did anyone hear Copiague FD get activated for the "FORT-WITH" car into the water the other night ?? You see BCFA is so worried about pulling calls off the scanner that they didnt even get all the info prior to dispatching the call.... When the Copiague chief called back for additional information because he couldnt find anything the BCFA dispatcher stated - all information from the scanner chief, we havent gotten any calls on it yet ... this went on for a good 10 minutes. AND then they activated Lindenhurst because somehow BCFA got information that it was in thr district, BUT when the Lindenhurst Chief could not find anything and asked BCFA for a call back the dispatcher states - ALL INFORMATION FROM THE SCANNER CHIEF - WE STILL HAVENT GOTTEN ANY CALLS ON THIS ..... OK, WTF ??? You would think someone would have called to find out what was going on before we send not only one but 2 departments out on a wild goose chase ??? Ooohh yeah it was a car stuck in a puddle by the way .. guess thats why you didnt get the call in the first place. Hey anybody hear that ...... It's the fat lady, and she's starting to sing. THE END IS NEAR !

[Passing by ..]

Is it true that Wyandanch Amb and Wyandanch Fire each pay over $100,000 a year to BCFA? If it is, this seems like double billing since each FD that also runs Amb pays about the same. In fact, all residents in the Town of Babylon, except those living in Amityville and E. Farm are bng double billed for the same services since each pays to BCFA thru thier FD taxes, and each pays thier share of the County taxes that pays for FRES.

So the poor people in Wyandanch are getting hit 3 times ... $100,000 for the FD $100,000 for the ambulance and then through thr county tax for FRES ... WHY ??

No wonder why the local leaders are saying enough is enough ...

They need to figure out why there are people at Central making over $100,000 per year ... and getting big bucks dumped into thr retirements .... How much longer can this go on for before someone catches on. You thought the school scandles were bad ... WAIT till the BABYLON CENTRAL SCANDLE hits the news

[835]

ladies,
let me start that way just so we understand one thing. this is not the proper forum for us. yes most of these posts are from our ranks, the others, who cares!! we make decisions from our front tables, not on some bullshit political board. this message board serves nothing but crap from members who want to take cheap shots at other members. go to the firehouse and let your voices be heard there. tell your wardens your feelings!!!! not here. our departments business is ours, not for this shit. anyone that wants to know the facts go ask a chief!! not some asshole coward on this site who just passes on rumors to fuel some fire.
thank you!

[WOW !]

She gets paid over $100K ????

No wonder ZERO needs a hike in it's rates.

I give BFD a thums up for standing up against the political BS of the Babylon Township and pulling out of 1-0-0. At l the Babylon Mayor had the balls to stand against an injustice thats been going on for a long time. That 100K can be spent more wisely
and not on gready people who are just out for thr own gain.

She gets paid over $100K ????

No wonder ZERO needs a hike in it's rates.

I give BFD a thums up for standing up against the political BS of the Babylon Township and pulling out of 1-0-0. At l the Babylon Mayor had the balls to stand against an injustice thats been going on for a long time. That 100K can be spent more wisely
and not on gready people who are just out for thr own gain.

The Mayor should look in his own backyard! And not throw stones!!!! :shock:

She gets paid over $100K ????

No wonder ZERO needs a hike in it's rates.

I give BFD a thums up for standing up against the political BS of the Babylon Township and pulling out of 1-0-0. At l the Babylon Mayor had the balls to stand against an injustice thats been going on for a long time. That 100K can be spent more wisely
and not on gready people who are just out for thr own gain.

The Mayor should look in his own backyard! And not throw stones!!!! :shock:

I think you should all be utilizing your time on my space. you all need to get out more.

[1-2-?]

ahhh phooey. 835 is right. if u have problems with the way things are going. speak your voice. this is not for slamming each other. If you are that worried about leaving central. Get elected to an office, do your homework, and come up with an alternative plan. If you just wanna be anonymous, then stfu, and listen. Instead of flapping your ballwasher,look at all the alternatives, and make a wise, and educated inquiry. you may find that more people may actually listen to what you have to say, than to hide behind your keyboard and poison the well. Peace

[BFDFF]

... Instead of flapping your ballwasher...

Aren't you glad I taught you that one?

Only problem going to officers, chiefs and wardens for answers is that you then have to decide which one to believe because you will 12 different responses !!!

Let's face it, lack of information and bad information is what fuels these chat boards with rumour and BS. Best way to solve the problem is for leadership to explain and provide an official forum for valid questions. Maybe a dept. meeting ??? I doubt you'll hear anyone call the Chief's drunks to thr faces, but who knows maybe one of the mutts on here will grow a set of balls.

[tyre of the bee eeesssss]

Asa proud member of this department i find it sickening the stuff bng said as for anyone not from babylon posting replys on here well if you are intelligent than goahead but please stop thmmature remarks. any member of any tob dept. has the right to talk on this matter guys, we are essentialy screwing these guys when we leave because they have to shoulder the burden of our missing monies!!!!! if we decide to leave that is our decision to make, OUR DECISION not the chief who in my opinoin is miis informing everyone in volved including the mayor, although he obviuosly isnt that bright himself and for someone who claims to support this dept. well he leaves alot to be desired. you know hwat they say keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I get the whole defend our chiefs thing, and at times i have actualy cast a vote ot two for rick and tony but c'mon now , how long does this place and all of us have to be disgraced by these friggin guys? i mean all the drinkin and bull crap has gone on long enough we cant handle an alrm after dark or even aproachin dark without these guys bng questionable!!!!!!!! I really like tony ricky not so much but i dont think ther is qualified i only wish that i had the balls to do something about it when i had the chance. just because you are a firemarshall because of who you know doesn't make you the best chief, ask gil i am sure he can tell you some stories about tony's fire investigations. any way kevin is a good guy but we are a laughing stock keeping a chief for all this time obviously we diont need 4 if we keep a guy who cant be on the road elect another secretary. oh well i think this deapartment should elect 4 new chiefs scratch that keep 33 and get rid of the rest becaus ebefore to long i think that rick and tony are really going to talking to a warden after theyb get locked up in our cars!!!!!!!!!!! only ricky cant bullshit that warden...............
PLEASE KEEP OUR TOWN CLEAN AND FREE OF DEBRIS ... ELECT SOME NEW FIRE CHIEFS!!!!!!!!

thanks for your eyes! seeeeeeeeeyyyyyyaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[NBEX]

I think the first thing that needs to b e questioned is why is this happening? I mean what prompted this situation? Central supplies an exemplary service which other departments in the county, ie Smithtown have modeled themselves after its true, but it seems strange that a new 30 suddenly decides he doesnt want to use BCFA after all this time (and after he was the second on the BCFA budget at the BCFA/Chiefs meeting this year)! I wonder what is behind not wanting to spend the $$$.
Second why was this issue never addressed before Babylon's own board of wardens PRIOR to any discussion of leaving BCFA. I understand that thr wardens have a rep that reports to them regarding issues relating to Central, and they are a part of the governing body of that department, so why would a chief who wanted to make a move like this not consult his own board in an attempt to gain thr support? Doesn't he have the intelligence to know that this decision will affect the performance of his department drastically and he should get input from the men who are the most experienced and have a significant amount of service there. It seems to me he is just trying to make decision on his own John Wayne style, and it hasnt been thought over carefully.
That aside, the people most affected by this are the helpless, somewhat clueless residents of Babylon who will have to endure further delays in response time because they will be dispatched by a 3rd division dept on a 1st division frequency. A dept whose own calls will have precedence over Babylons, and funnily enough that operates on UHF as opposed to the radios currently in Babylon's trucks.Babylon is going to pay less but they will get less too, and it will cost $$ them to purchase equipment that can work with what West has. It would be smarter, if they really wanted to leave BCFA to just be disptached by county for FREE.
regarding the employees of BCFA- they work hard and some people are the best disptachers out there- who cares about thr personal lives? Thr salaries may be high but I can guarantee they will handle an MCI (multiple casualty incident) better than anyone els on the radio, and they don't panic. matter oalm alot of fact they calm alot of people on the radio down when they speed to false alarms or stutter on the radio. I am also pretty sure they arent drinking on duty - it's a rare chief of Babylon Fire Dept that can say that.
Finally as an ex-chief from a nghboring dept, I would like to say that I am saddened by the choices the membership of the babylon Fire Dept have made in electing thr chiefs. It is after all thr fault that they have this current group in the chief's office. Chiefs like Frolich and Tiedmann and Hanse were honorable men, and while they knew how to have a good time, they did what was in the best interest of that dept, both publicly and behind closed doors. Those traditions seem to have ended with thr terms. It is truly a shame and the membership that voted for these men should be as embarassed as those in office for the behavior shown at parades and public functions- nuff said?

[$$$$$$$$$$]

If you think central is full of high paid dispatchers, then you have no idea of what a dispatcher gets paid. Central is the second busiest dispatch center in Suffolk County.

There's alot of Fire house dispatchers (only dispatch one department) that get paid well more then the folks at central are getting. So please don't call them over paid...

[835]

I think the first thing that needs to b e questioned is why is this happening? I mean what prompted this situation? Central supplies an exemplary service which other departments in the county, ie Smithtown have modeled themselves after its true, but it seems strange that a new 30 suddenly decides he doesnt want to use BCFA after all this time (and after he was the second on the BCFA budget at the BCFA/Chiefs meeting this year)! I wonder what is behind not wanting to spend the $$$.
Second why was this issue never addressed before Babylon's own board of wardens PRIOR to any discussion of leaving BCFA. I understand that thr wardens have a rep that reports to them regarding issues relating to Central, and they are a part of the governing body of that department, so why would a chief who wanted to make a move like this not consult his own board in an attempt to gain thr support? Doesn't he have the intelligence to know that this decision will affect the performance of his department drastically and he should get input from the men who are the most experienced and have a significant amount of service there. It seems to me he is just trying to make decision on his own John Wayne style, and it hasnt been thought over carefully.
That aside, the people most affected by this are the helpless, somewhat clueless residents of Babylon who will have to endure further delays in response time because they will be dispatched by a 3rd division dept on a 1st division frequency. A dept whose own calls will have precedence over Babylons, and funnily enough that operates on UHF as opposed to the radios currently in Babylon's trucks.Babylon is going to pay less but they will get less too, and it will cost $$ them to purchase equipment that can work with what West has. It would be smarter, if they really wanted to leave BCFA to just be disptached by county for FREE.
regarding the employees of BCFA- they work hard and some people are the best disptachers out there- who cares about thr personal lives? Thr salaries may be high but I can guarantee they will handle an MCI (multiple casualty incident) better than anyone els on the radio, and they don't panic. matter oalm alot of fact they calm alot of people on the radio down when they speed to false alarms or stutter on the radio. I am also pretty sure they arent drinking on duty - it's a rare chief of Babylon Fire Dept that can say that.
Finally as an ex-chief from a nghboring dept, I would like to say that I am saddened by the choices the membership of the babylon Fire Dept have made in electing thr chiefs. It is after all thr fault that they have this current group in the chief's office. Chiefs like Frolich and Tiedmann and Hanse were honorable men, and while they knew how to have a good time, they did what was in the best interest of that dept, both publicly and behind closed doors. Those traditions seem to have ended with thr terms. It is truly a shame and the membership that voted for these men should be as embarassed as those in office for the behavior shown at parades and public functions- nuff said?

i for one would like to know your motivation chief, you must be real tired of counciling your department, somehow you have a real thumb of the pulse of babylon.(not really) you seem to be taking this all little to persanal, what is your true motivation coward!!! its pretty funny how cowards like you can point fingers and make faulty statements, but also can stand at town chiefs meeting and not say a word!!! maybe your concerns about west are correct, i dont know, but that would be for US to figure out not by a coward with an agenda!!!!!
nuff said chief!!!
mind your own house!!!!

Does anyone even know if Babylon left central or not??????????

Does anyone even know if Babylon left central or not??????????

Not yet. As it stands currently, they have paid for service through the end of the year, when they are planning on switching to county as primary and W as secondary dispatch. While they have advised central of thr plans, they have not finalized anything, which will probably not happen untill the end of October at the earliest.

[NBEX]

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i for one would like to know your motivation chief, you must be real tired of counciling your department, somehow you have a real thumb of the pulse of babylon.(not really) you seem to be taking this all little to persanal, what is your true motivation coward!!! its pretty funny how cowards like you can point fingers and make faulty statements, but also can stand at town chiefs meeting and not say a word!!! maybe your concerns about west are correct, i dont know, but that would be for US to figure out not by a coward with an agenda!!!!!
nuff said chief!!!
mind your own house!!!![/quote]

Hey- it was babylon that put its business in every other depts laps around this town- if you want your business kept personal- you keep it that way-as far as bng a coward some of us would say more if we didnt have to worry about the maturity level of people who have nothing better to do than attack people personally- you'll note I didnt name any particular individuals and attack them- and as far as my agenda goes- I'm the guy who's radio is going to go off when babylon can't get out for a call- we all depend on each other so what affects you affects everyone else in this division, and in case you didnt know - IF babylon leaves Central the rest of the 1st division will be making up the difference in the operating budget for BCFA- put that in your pipe and smoke it. SO if you or your chiefs can't take the heat then ....

Does anyone even know if Babylon left central or not??????????

Not yet. As it stands currently, they have paid for service through the end of the year, when they are planning on switching to county as primary and W as secondary dispatch. While they have advised central of thr plans, they have not finalized anything, which will probably not happen untill the end of October at the earliest.

Oh No, they have not paid for thr service!!!!

With all due respect DPA isn't a 1way street !
If the rest of the 1st can withstand increasing costs so be it.
Babylon probably has the lowest operating budget in the 1st so it makes sense that they'd be the first to challenge the status quo.
We don't have a commercial tax base, so whatever the costs involved they come directly from residents. If this were a school budget discussion there wouldn't be a single gripe about looking at ways to cut costs. Everyone seems to think this is an FD issue, it's really a tax payers issue ! We're all tax payers aren't we?

And before the mouthpieces start - don't question how we spend our funds unless you want yours questioned too. Babylon by far has less excess in ALL areas than most of our nghbors. If you want to start questioning how FD's spend money in general then call Liz Moore !!!

carll and main!!!!!, carll and main!!! Such excitement.

Actualy, it's "Cooper and Main", and helps prevent incidents like what happened at Hubbard and Sunrise.

That last one was uncalled for !!!

If you think any of us has our shit together so well that an accident can't ahppen you've drunk way too much of the BFD coolaid!

and so much of what is bng posted here is called for?

didn't sound like slamming someone for having an accident, more like someone explaining why they do something. wow. people here seem a bit touchy! i guess it's ok to slam one department, but if someone metions your department, then all hell breaks loose.

[12345]

Babylon has not paid thr 2nd. payment yet..

If the Mayor wants to save some money, he should have the 1st Assistant Chief park his vehicle until that Chief is off medical leave.

Not to mention that the Chief is putting the Village at risk while driving the vehicle while on medical leave.

[KEH937]

Has anyone done an engineering study to see if West is even capable of reliably dispatching Babylon Village?
West is licensed for only 30 watts ERP at 36 feet in the air. ASSUMING (and that's a big word) that they are operating in compliance with thr license, they may not be able to activate pagers in all parts on Babylon's district.
Also, how is West going to communicate with Babylon after the initial activation. West is NOT licensed to use 46.34 and Babylon is NOT licensed to use 46.44. They can't even use F3 since Babylon isn't licensed for 46.38 ther.
Perhaps this entire plan should be sent to the FCC for review before any final decisions are made..

:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

Has anyone done an engineering study to see if West is even capable of reliably dispatching Babylon Village?
West is licensed for only 30 watts ERP at 36 feet in the air. ASSUMING (and that's a big word) that they are operating in compliance with thr license, they may not be able to activate pagers in all parts on Babylon's district.
Also, how is West going to communicate with Babylon after the initial activation. West is NOT licensed to use 46.34 and Babylon is NOT licensed to use 46.44. They can't even use F3 since Babylon isn't licensed for 46.38 ther.
Perhaps this entire plan should be sent to the FCC for review before any final decisions are made..

AND HOW LONG WAS COUNTY GOING WITH AN EXPIRED FCC LICENSE? REMEMBER, KEG977. DUDE, THEY WERE GOING A FEW YEARS WITH AN EXPIRED LICENSE. NO ONE ENFORCES THIS SH IT. BECAUSE NO ONE CARES ABOUT VOLLIE LAND.

WIFD is def pushing more than 30 watts, prob 100watts. More than enough, and Im sure they can talk on 46.34

[Philly Deriggi]

Babylon needs to join the 21st century instead of going backwards. Maybe they could put a 1-2-0 base station on the Mayor's kitchen table to save money?

Sounds like KEH937 has done his/hers homework. Regardless of FCC enforcement it's kind of scary that emergency communications are not properly licensed and/or stations are pushing more power than they are licensed for. These rules are in place to ensure that nghboring frequencies and bases are properly allocated and do not over power each other. If everyone ignored the rules you would not be able to rely on radio communications - period. When that communication potentially involves life saftey (maybe yours and mine) it is not something that should be taken lightly.

[Connie Harris]

The fire trucks are red. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Flynn01AXP]

I really don't get all this talk about the big move from central to west FD. If everyone around in the town has so much to say, man up and say it to us, not over this stupid message board, instead of drinking all our "coolaid" when given the chance and acting as if we're best friends at a parade or function.

So to all those who mock the BFD for the move, F*CK OFF, stay out of our business and we'll stay out of yours. And for the payhike to the rest of you, I'm sure you can muster up the money to cover the added expense, or do just what we're doing now, exploring a new option to save money.

[Guest 1-2-99]

Nice Talk for a person representing the department .!!
And BTW, Kool-Aid is spelled with a "K"..

Seems like in between the all the vulgarities, personal attacks and character assasinations there are valid questions posed here. Too bad no one is answering any of them, so this whole thing could end.

[Sumpwam]

The problem is the unqualified drunks who are making the decisions!!!

[Fireguyy]

To Flynn01AXP,

Babylon Village Fire Playhouse has always been largely irrelevant in the Town of Babylon. So take your retro-pseudo fire department and go play where you are happy. Good riddance.

Or better yet keep your ambulance and split up the village between West Babylon and West and really do the taxpayers a service.

[TheycallmeSchwartz]

To all of you who pretend to have the facts, you don't. Nther do I. What I do know is that the majority of you do not know how to spell, type or put words together to make even one coherent sentence. To the people who feel that they have an inherent right to tell BFD how they should conduct thr business I say put your homes in order before helping us with ours. To the members of BFD that have a problem with our chiefs, tell them your problem instead of hiding behind anonymous pen names and throwing daggers behind thr backs. On the subject of BCFA, regardless of thr volume, they can stand to be more professional, and it starts from the top. I do not need to hear some childish dispatcher send his latest download from his cell phone over the radio. To those of you who think its funny, you only propagate the problem. BFD has for years objected to the informal way that BCFA has been run. It has for years been the voice of reason in the sea of despair. With all the other departments around us having deep pockets, the issues were largely unheard. The fact that BFD is considering alternatives has only now made the other departments aware that there are problems. Whether BFD leaves or others leave is not the problem. What is pertinent is why they want to leave. Not once has the department said that is was for poor service or overpaid dispatchers, instead what was said was they were looking for less expensive alternatives. If we are to be mocked and criticized for bng mindful of our taxpayers dollars then shame on you for not. We refuse to get caught up in the great game that other departments play where you get bragging rights for having the largest ladder or the most expensive ladder. Our equipment is second to none except in the cost category. The last thing I would like to point out is that in my day we solved all the problems of the fire department on the front bumpers of the trucks after calls and meetings, we never aired our laundry, dirty or clean, in front of non members. It is time all of you grow up and if you are as upset as your Blogs indicate, speak to your officers, wardens and chiefs, be mindful of the fact that most of you are Taxpayers as well. And to the brainiac that disparaged our rescue, if you are so concerned, come on down and ride, we never turn away a helping hand, just check the attitude at the door.

[835]

great job !!!! btw whats wrong with our ladder!!!

can anyone actually tell me what is wrong with BCFA? examples?

We have to deal with 4-2-0, and over the past 2 years since all dispatchers are new, the dispatch service is horrible.

To all of you who pretend to have the facts, you don't. Nther do I. What I do know is that the majority of you do not know how to spell, type or put words together to make even one coherent sentence. To the people who feel that they have an inherent right to tell BFD how they should conduct thr business I say put your homes in order before helping us with ours. To the members of BFD that have a problem with our chiefs, tell them your problem instead of hiding behind anonymous pen names and throwing daggers behind thr backs. On the subject of BCFA, regardless of thr volume, they can stand to be more professional, and it starts from the top. I do not need to hear some childish dispatcher send his latest download from his cell phone over the radio. To those of you who think its funny, you only propagate the problem. BFD has for years objected to the informal way that BCFA has been run. It has for years been the voice of reason in the sea of despair. With all the other departments around us having deep pockets, the issues were largely unheard. The fact that BFD is considering alternatives has only now made the other departments aware that there are problems. Whether BFD leaves or others leave is not the problem. What is pertinent is why they want to leave. Not once has the department said that is was for poor service or overpaid dispatchers, instead what was said was they were looking for less expensive alternatives. If we are to be mocked and criticized for bng mindful of our taxpayers dollars then shame on you for not. We refuse to get caught up in the great game that other departments play where you get bragging rights for having the largest ladder or the most expensive ladder. Our equipment is second to none except in the cost category. The last thing I would like to point out is that in my day we solved all the problems of the fire department on the front bumpers of the trucks after calls and meetings, we never aired our laundry, dirty or clean, in front of non members. It is time all of you grow up and if you are as upset as your Blogs indicate, speak to your officers, wardens and chiefs, be mindful of the fact that most of you are Taxpayers as well. And to the brainiac that disparaged our rescue, if you are so concerned, come on down and ride, we never turn away a helping hand, just check the attitude at the door.

CHILDISH DISPATCHER....cellphone download...HA! Why dont you look at our own chiefs office and some members about cellphone downloads bng played over the radio!!!! Remember the Banjo music everyday at 4-4:30???? Gee...we know where that came from!! Maybe the Chief should also check his Mouth at the door, you girls in the department shouldnt take his lip service!!! :?:

Maybe for one day today we can forget all the BS here and think of someting really important. Never Forget !!!

[mike mccarthy]

West dispatching Babylon is a non issue from what i was told today. Village Board decided to stay with BCFA. Now maybe we can get back to more important matters. Hopefully !!!

[KEG696]

I can only hope that the above post is accurate information.

[Central Rugrat]

Evidently it was the village board and not the drunk chiefs that made the final decision. The drunk and juvenile chiefs have no backbone, just hollow legs.

Plus one for the village board.
Minus one for the drunk chiefs.

can anyone actually tell me what is wrong with BCFA? examples?

We have to deal with 4-2-0, and over the past 2 years since all dispatchers are new, the dispatch service is horrible.

There's nothing wrong with the service BCFA provides. It's simply a matter of cost. BFD can't afford the $100K+ cost, and therefore looked to find a less expensive alternative. Remember, BFD operates in an incorporated village, and all bugetary funds flow from the village. Therefore, they have to make the best use that they can out of the limited funds they are provided.

By going to FRES for primary dispatch and WI for secondary dispatch, they will realize a savings of aproximately $60K/year, which can then be used for things such as hiring a paid daytime EMT and for upgrades to equiptment and radios.

Regardless of the emotionaly charged responses in this thread, it is not about personalities. It is a business decision, plain and simple. If the service that they recieve is not acceptable, they will most likely return to BCFA in a year.

pablo has fucked up hair and he cant dispatch for shit

who?

who?

He's evidently a beloved brother in the WBFD, if you think the statements here are bad look over there.

It's a shame people have so much to post all this crap and not enough balls to actually confront anyone. :shock:

can anyone actually tell me what is wrong with BCFA? examples?

We have to deal with 4-2-0, and over the past 2 years since all dispatchers are new, the dispatch service is horrible.

There's nothing wrong with the service BCFA provides. It's simply a matter of cost. BFD can't afford the $100K+ cost, and therefore looked to find a less expensive alternative. Remember, BFD operates in an incorporated village, and all bugetary funds flow from the village. Therefore, they have to make the best use that they can out of the limited funds they are provided.

By going to FRES for primary dispatch and WI for secondary dispatch, they will realize a savings of aproximately $60K/year, which can then be used for things such as hiring a paid daytime EMT and for upgrades to equiptment and radios.

Regardless of the emotionaly charged responses in this thread, it is not about personalities. It is a business decision, plain and simple. If the service that they recieve is not acceptable, they will most likely return to BCFA in a year.
Just like Deer Park FD did several years ago...

[$$$$$$$$]

Maybe if my department can't afford the increase West Babylon will pick up the tab,just like they are doing for babylon....taxpayers would love that

[fireengineman]

So is that the answer. Mayberry (Babylon) FD gets a free ride. I guess Comm Joe will do anything to keep the central axis rolling.

So is that the answer. Mayberry (Babylon) FD gets a free ride. I guess Comm Joe will do anything to keep the central axis rolling.
You should be so lucky to live in Mayberry (Babylon). I am proud of the Firefighters and the EMS. We may not be perfect but we are family! You should be so fortunate! You are just an angry little person who has nothing better to do than sound like an old washer women. That goes for all of you who have posted comments not just a select few. Get a life! You old bitties! I bet that you are the one's sitting in the back row making rude comments at your department meeting, never paying any attention to what is really bng said, than you spread rumors about what you thought you heard. Worry about your own back yard, I am sure there is plenty of things that you have to worry about within your own department without trying to solve Babylon's issues. I do not even know why I am giving a response to such a narrow minded pea brains. You have all certainly showed the civilians who read this crap what we really think of one another. What saddens me more than anything with this blog is that the public now can see how truly fake the word "Brotherhood" is within the Town of Babylon Fire Departments. I thought we were better than this I guess I was wrong.

So is that the answer. Mayberry (Babylon) FD gets a free ride. I guess Comm Joe will do anything to keep the central axis rolling.
You should be so lucky to live in Mayberry (Babylon). I am proud of the Firefighters and the EMS. We may not be perfect but we are family! You should be so fortunate! You are just an angry little person who has nothing better to do than sound like an old washer women. That goes for all of you who have posted comments not just a select few. Get a life! You old bitties! I bet that you are the one's sitting in the back row making rude comments at your department meeting, never paying any attention to what is really bng said, than you spread rumors about what you thought you heard. Worry about your own back yard, I am sure there is plenty of things that you have to worry about within your own department without trying to solve Babylon's issues. I do not even know why I am giving a response to such a narrow minded pea brains. You have all certainly showed the civilians who read this crap what we really think of one another. What saddens me more than anything with this blog is that the public now can see how truly fake the word "Brotherhood" is within the Town of Babylon Fire Departments. I thought we were better than this I guess I was wrong.

What he said !!!! They're just jealous they don't live IN Mayberry !!!! PS no free ride !!!

One thing though, there is no brotherhood ! Not within the Dept.'s, not between them , or among counties , cities or other palces. Just read forums like this at places like firehouse.com, etc... etc... The brotherhood seems to end when the fire goes out - we'll all rush into danger to save one another or a stranger, but during conversations and in the rumour mills we call firehouses we love to slander, libel and basically trash one another. I guess the brotherhood thing is little like the tooth fairy, santa and er bunny.... nice to belive in when you're innocent and naieve.

[Timmy Achenberg]

Ralph said he won't be a party to it.

[Guestspottoday]

What he said !!!! They're just jealous they don't live IN Mayberry !!!! PS no free ride !!!

One thing though, there is no brotherhood ! Not within the Dept.'s, not between them , or among counties , cities or other palces. Just read forums like this at places like firehouse.com, etc... etc... The brotherhood seems to end when the fire goes out - we'll all rush into danger to save one another or a stranger, but during conversations and in the rumour mills we call firehouses we love to slander, libel and basically trash one another. I guess the brotherhood thing is little like the tooth fairy, santa and er bunny.... nice to belive in when you're innocent and naieve.

BROTHERHOOD OF DRUNK VOLLIES !!!

What ever happened here has this been resolved? Is Babylon still with Central or are they jumping ship?

[NBEX]

What ever happened here has this been resolved? Is Babylon still with Central or are they jumping ship?

It appears they are staying, the mayor ultimately made the decision to stay, which is good- what is surprising is that Babylon isn't paying for any increases and every other dept is. However I do think it is in the best interest of the public for them to remain with BCFA...and that is really the bottom line

[reply 123]

The reason that babylon is not paying an increase is because west babylon is picking up the tab..Maybe west babylon could pick up my departments tab too. I know west babylon tax payers don't know about this move

and why would wbfd do that?

What ever happened here has this been resolved? Is Babylon still with Central or are they jumping ship?

It appears they are staying, the mayor ultimately made the decision to stay, which is good- what is surprising is that Babylon isn't paying for any increases and every other dept is. However I do think it is in the best interest of the public for them to remain with BCFA...and that is really the bottom line

Gee I am sure glad that you (NBEX) approve of Babylons doing. I don't know what they would have done with out you. I am so glad that you have your thumb on the pulse of Babylon. What other departments are you trying to solve thr problems. Maybe you should spend some time at WB or Lindy or DP and on and on!!!!

[732]

This is still going on? c'mon move along, the Mets and Yankees clinched, NFL is underway, Hugo Chavez is a dick, and stop and shop has an 18 pack of bud on sale for $10.99 ! There's big world out there get off you keyboard and go get some!

[Argyle Snover]

It's a good thing we spent 850 K on that ladder truck. Now it is easier to Decorate for Christmas!!!!

And we have a good place for the kiddies to hang on for Fire Prevention Week !!!!

bump

[Guest of a Guest]

Bump, hiccup, Bump.

It's a good thing we spent 850 K on that ladder truck. Now it is easier to Decorate for Christmas!!!!

And we have a good place for the kiddies to hang on for Fire Prevention Week !!!!

Evidently you live in a single story, ranch house and you do not intend for it to burn anytime soon. Good for you. If you don't think we get enough use out of it maybe we can use it to water the hanging flower baskets - oh forgot we have a truck for that !

[Babylon Warden]

We need big fire trucks so that the fire can go out. As long as we stay in the Centrall System it will be a good thing. I like that big red fire ladder truck. It makes me happy. The mayor is on our side, so is the cheefs.

We need big fire trucks so that the fire can go out. As long as we stay in the Centrall System it will be a good thing. I like that big red fire ladder truck. It makes me happy. The mayor is on our side, so is the cheefs.

Me not who I say. Still dragging knuckles. Pictures on cave wall show men with buckets pouring water. Best if I stay in my place new things, ideas scare me. Ugghhhh come here woman make me happy......

who is despacher 96???? he sucks!!!!!!!!!!

Which Chief? Corporal Aygarne says the hikowy Chief no likem' big red trucks, he vote no to pay for big red trucks.