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07-19-2006, 07:05 PM
Can anyone tell me what's the best move....Nassau PD or taking a village job? Doe it depend on the village? Thanks.

07-19-2006, 09:03 PM
Go NCPD. Villages are smaller Depts. Less room for advancement or movement into specialized units(If they even have any). Villages usually will offer the job to those candidates whos list number on the exam is low enough(but hovering around the cut off point), where they might not ever get a job with NCPD. If your list is about to expire or expiring soon, with no idea when you'll be going into a NCPD class...go with the village.

07-19-2006, 10:40 PM
Go NCPD. Villages are smaller Depts. Less room for advancement or movement into specialized units(If they even have any). Villages usually will offer the job to those candidates whos list number on the exam is low enough(but hovering around the cut off point), where they might not ever get a job with NCPD. If your list is about to expire or expiring soon, with no idea when you'll be going into a NCPD class...go with the village.

That makes sense. My only question would be how do I know when this list will expire? The eligible list is established as of 03/18/04. Let's assume I have some time left with this list.....what villages would be worth it? Thanks again.

07-20-2006, 12:23 AM
Take what ever comes first. Villages are a great opportunity. I know a guy who waited and then never got the call from NCPD.

07-20-2006, 02:16 PM
Any villages that you should avoid?

07-20-2006, 05:16 PM
Any villages that you should avoid?
Hempstead

07-20-2006, 08:52 PM
Any info on the different villages would be helpful.

07-21-2006, 06:06 PM
Any info on the different villages would be helpful.
Check the nghborhoods. If its a wealthy area(Old Westbury/Garden City) it's safe, but boring. Poor areas will be busier and more dangerous.

07-24-2006, 06:07 PM
Any opinions on Lynbrook?

VillageCop
07-25-2006, 09:51 AM
You would be lucky to be called by Hempstead PD, one of the highest payed pd's in the island. Talk to the cops in the village pd you are looking into, most have a residence requirment. Room for advancement is definately a problem. I am not a hempstead cop by the way but I am very happy with my choice. The reason I went with my village was the starting pay was higher than NCPD and at top pay NCPD only make about 3 thousand more.

07-25-2006, 06:05 PM
You would be lucky to be called by Hempstead PD, one of the highest payed pd's in the island. Talk to the cops in the village pd you are looking into, most have a residence requirment. Room for advancement is definately a problem. I am not a hempstead cop by the way but I am very happy with my choice. The reason I went with my village was the starting pay was higher than NCPD and at top pay NCPD only make about 3 thousand more.

Is the pay much different in the villages generally speaking? How would you find that out before showing interest in a village?

07-26-2006, 03:24 AM
I'm in a village also, rolled over from nypd. Villages are ok but you have to realize that what your doing the day you start will be what you will have to do till you retire...meaning not much advancement at all. If I was you I would take a village over the chance of not getting hired at all. At l you will be a cop, you can always take the test again but in the meantime your building toward your 20.

07-26-2006, 08:46 PM
I'm in a village also, rolled over from nypd. Villages are ok but you have to realize that what your doing the day you start will be what you will have to do till you retire...meaning not much advancement at all. If I was you I would take a village over the chance of not getting hired at all. At l you will be a cop, you can always take the test again but in the meantime your building toward your 20.

What about difference in pay? Are they close or is there a big difference? I'm not at the age where I would be able to take the test again.

VillageCop
07-26-2006, 10:20 PM
Pay shouldn't be a problem but do your research, talk to the cops already on.

07-27-2006, 09:20 PM
Go to Roosevelt field mall, they have peace officer status, plenty of O/T.

thehornet
07-27-2006, 10:00 PM
Go to Roosevelt field mall, they have peace officer status, plenty of O/T.

Uh, no, they don't. Whatever security that is there is just that - security. They have NO special status.

07-28-2006, 08:42 PM
Can anyone shed some light on the various villages and which ones would be a good choice.......Thanks.

07-29-2006, 07:09 AM
Can anyone shed some light on the various villages and which ones would be a good choice.......Thanks.

You don't just walk in to your investigator and say... I'll take Kings Pt. You have to be offered a position with a village and then take an interview, so you tell me what villages have made you an offer of employment, and I'll tell you what I would pick.

07-29-2006, 11:04 AM
Can anyone shed some light on the various villages and which ones would be a good choice.......Thanks.

You don't just walk in to your investigator and say... I'll take Kings Pt. You have to be offered a position with a village and then take an interview, so you tell me what villages have made you an offer of employment, and I'll tell you what I would pick.

I understand that, but one of my posts was edited when I asked directly about a certain village. I'll try again....Lynbrook is the village that offered me an interview. Thanks.

07-29-2006, 04:27 PM
Kings Point, Lynbrook, Old Westbury, & Floral Park

07-29-2006, 04:41 PM
Kings Point, Not Allowed, Old Westbury, & Floral Parkthey're banning one town break the word up put a space between each letter like this t o w n

07-29-2006, 06:20 PM
Kings Point, L Y N B R O O K, Old Westbury, & Floral Park

07-29-2006, 10:54 PM
You'd be busier in Lyn-brook or Floral Park... I believe the pay is better in Kings Pt. and Old Westbury. Its up to you, do you want to deal with people who look down on you or people in your class of living?

08-17-2006, 04:50 PM
How do you find out the salaries of the villages?

08-18-2006, 12:00 AM
whats up with lynbrook, why is it not allowed, and why are you spelling it out.

08-18-2006, 02:06 PM
How do you find out the salaries of the villages?

Do they make more/less? What about OT? Anyone?

08-18-2006, 08:02 PM
Many of us are interviewing with different villages. I would really appreciate anyone's help with which villages have thr own contract, which villages pay most, and which villages have changing shifts(midnights/days). Please help!

08-18-2006, 10:43 PM
City cops don't need to do the academy for Villages. Major advantage.

Thinking Too
08-19-2006, 01:18 AM
Most top out 6-8 years $97k (Old contract), no 1/60ths after 20 years yet except L.S., heard Lynbrook pay into 20 year pension unless u commit to 25 years, GNE identical to NCPD including starting pay. The county is the best if you can take the starting salary, NYPD time carries over but keep in mind you may have to work a min of 10 years before you are eligible for lifetime medical. Most will work 25 years or more total. Expect to work late tour$ (Villages could be for a long time), promo. Opportunities limited, QOL and salary Excellent. 12 hr tours 2 on 3 off, some payback tours (8 maybe?). Think of your family.

bigbird
08-19-2006, 12:58 PM
Is Suffolk still the best job out there? besides the fact that they are on the 8 hours tours still (except midnights) Top pay as of 1/1/07 97,000 plus, meal money, travel time, prescription rmb, crown vics, sirius radios (coming next contract), plenty of OT, quartermaster, free Raybans at Davis vision, night diff of top step, etc. etc. etc., I know its' gotten better than Nassau but what about the small towns in nassua/suffolk???????

08-19-2006, 03:30 PM
Most top out 6-8 years $97k (Old contract), no 1/60ths after 20 years yet except L.S., heard Not Allowed pay into 20 year pension unless u commit to 25 years, GNE identical to NCPD including starting pay. The county is the best if you can take the starting salary, NYPD time carries over but keep in mind you may have to work a min of 10 years before you are eligible for lifetime medical. Most will work 25 years or more total. Expect to work late tour$ (Villages could be for a long time), promo. Opportunities limited, QOL and salary Excellent. 12 hr tours 2 on 3 off, some payback tours (8 maybe?). Think of your family.

I was told that Kings Point also has the 1/60th now as well. Do any of them have rotating tours?

08-20-2006, 04:51 PM
Nassau is better...12 hour tours

08-20-2006, 05:26 PM
Nassau is better...12 hour tours

Most villages have the 12 hour tours as well.

po 7885
08-27-2006, 11:50 PM
Floral Park is still doing 8 hour tours---it's a great village, but those hours are not competitive with Nassau's chart---which MOST other villages have adopted.

08-28-2006, 02:40 AM
Floral Park is still doing 8 hour tours---it's a great village, but those hours are not competitive with Nassau's chart---which MOST other villages have adopted.

They also have revolving tours.. so you're working all 3 tours. 7x3, 3x11, 11x7

09-04-2006, 10:03 PM
Rockville Centre? Oyster Bay Cove? Garden City? Kings Point? Any feedback would be helpful. thanks.

S CP D
09-04-2006, 10:14 PM
Go with the County, Villages are small departments. You are going to have to be #1 on any list to make Boss. Forget Detective, unless your the Mayor's Son in law. If you never plan to step on anyones toes then go to a Village. Same 50 guys for your 20 years.
In the County at l there some movement, the Sergeants list is on the level, u may make Detective, and u can always move to a different Precinct or Detail if you step on someones toes!
I know I could not go 20 years with out pissing some boss off!

09-05-2006, 12:01 PM
Rockville Centre? Oyster Bay Cove? Garden City? Kings Point? Any feedback would be helpful. thanks.


Trade off is security and safety for little possibility of advancement and boredom. Your call.

09-05-2006, 01:25 PM
Rockville Centre? Oyster Bay Cove? Garden City? Kings Point? Any feedback would be helpful. thanks.


Trade off is security and safety for little possibility of advancement and boredom. Your call.

And for the older guys who get offers from villages....take it. You may never get the chance for NCPD. They may or may not put in a class after the next one. It would be a tough gamble to lose.

09-08-2006, 04:56 PM
Any villages that you should avoid? For any reason.

09-09-2006, 01:54 PM
Any villages that you should avoid? For any reason.

Sure... I wouldn't go walking through Hempstead or Freeport at 3am. I wouldn't advise leaving your car running, while you run in to get the paper or a cup of coffee ther.

09-09-2006, 06:06 PM
Any villages that you should avoid? For any reason.

Sure... I wouldn't go walking through Hempstead or Freeport at 3am. I wouldn't advise leaving your car running, while you run in to get the paper or a cup of coffee ther.

I think its easy to figure out which ones are dangerous. I'm looking for info on $$ differences and other contractual differences. Thanks.

villageCop
09-10-2006, 11:11 AM
If you think you are getting into NCPD go with them. If you are not sure you will get into NCPD but are garanteed a spot in a village PD go with village PD. Top pay for Hempstead right now mid $90's., Freeport top pay right now low $90's. If you get on with one of them right now you would hit top pay in 5 years by then top pay would be around $105. When I was considering one of the above jobs I found a current member parked, told him about my situation and he answered all of my questions.

09-10-2006, 01:58 PM
If you think you are getting into NCPD go with them. If you are not sure you will get into NCPD but are garanteed a spot in a village PD go with village PD. Top pay for Hempstead right now mid $90's., Freeport top pay right now low $90's. If you get on with one of them right now you would hit top pay in 5 years by then top pay would be around $105. When I was considering one of the above jobs I found a current member parked, told him about my situation and he answered all of my questions.
Thanks for the answer. Other than advancement why would NCPD be better?

Dirk Dirkistan
09-10-2006, 07:10 PM
This thread blows. I feel like crackin' somebody in the mouth.

09-11-2006, 01:21 PM
This thread blows. I feel like crackin' somebody in the mouth. When you're done tough boy why don't you tell us which villages are the best. Now you can go crack your momma in the mouth...ok?

Dirk Dirkistan
09-11-2006, 05:47 PM
This thread blows. I feel like crackin' somebody in the mouth. When you're done tough boy why don't you tell us which villages are the best. Now you can go crack your momma in the mouth...ok?

I guess I know who's getting cracked first, towelhead.

09-11-2006, 06:37 PM
What's up with the nonsense? This thread is helping those of us going on these interviews. Thanks to those who contribute.

09-13-2006, 08:00 PM
Which villages offer the most $, best tours, best contract....? Please let me know. I'm probably going to get one of these villages and I want to make the best choice possible.

Flea Barkit
09-13-2006, 08:32 PM
Which villages offer the most $, best tours, best contract....? Please let me know. I'm probably going to get one of these villages and I want to make the best choice possible.

Nissequogue

09-14-2006, 07:19 PM
Which villages offer the most $, best tours, best contract....? Please let me know. I'm probably going to get one of these villages and I want to make the best choice possible.

NCPD....seriously...any help would be appreciated.

09-16-2006, 10:15 PM
I would take the Nassau job.

09-18-2006, 12:41 PM
What about Oyster Bay Cove?

09-18-2006, 04:09 PM
What about Oyster Bay Cove?

Rumor has it... That dept. is on its way to be absorbed by Old Brookville. So the decision is yours.

Put it this way, if you're only beginning your investigation now take any village that offers because this list is going to expire before you get a chance at NCPD.

09-19-2006, 01:31 PM
What about Oyster Bay Cove?

Put it this way, if you're only beginning your investigation now take any village that offers because this list is going to expire before you get a chance at NCPD.

Really. How would you know that the list will expire before another class goes in? No one knows.....not even you.

09-19-2006, 03:31 PM
What about Oyster Bay Cove?

Put it this way, if you're only beginning your investigation now take any village that offers because this list is going to expire before you get a chance at NCPD.

Really. How would you know that the list will expire before another class goes in? No one knows.....not even you.

You sir, are 100% right. It's called an educated guess. No classes + many canidadates finished with processing, and more added to that list every week = Shit out of luck for guys further down the list. SORRY

09-19-2006, 09:55 PM
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What about Oyster Bay Cove?


You sir, are 100% right. It's called an educated guess. No classes + many canidadates finished with processing, and more added to that list every week = Shit out of luck for guys further down the list. SORRY

Again, you have no idea how many classes may or may not occur.

09-19-2006, 10:09 PM
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What about Oyster Bay Cove?


You sir, are 100% right. It's called an educated guess. No classes + many canidadates finished with processing, and more added to that list every week = Shit out of luck for guys further down the list. SORRY

Again, you have no idea how many classes may or may not occur.

I heard they are gonna finish out the list and actually go past 70.00 and call the people who failed, b/c Nassau is gonna have 10 more classes off the list, and starting pay is going to 107k and they are changing chart orange to 1 on, 13 off... Oh and take home cars for every officer. Just what I heard.

09-20-2006, 12:05 PM
Villages? Which ones have the best pay?

09-20-2006, 04:35 PM
Is it batter to have the NCPD contract or the village contracts?

09-20-2006, 09:17 PM
Is it batter to have the NCPD contract or the village contracts?

It's "batter" to stay in skool and git yerself edumacated.

09-21-2006, 12:12 PM
Is it batter to have the NCPD contract or the village contracts?

It's "batter" to stay in skool and git yerself edumacated.

Sorry moron. Do you actually have an answer to this Spellcheck PD?

09-21-2006, 02:45 PM
Ignore the idiots trying to be funny. Every now and then you get helpful info here. All village jobs are good.

09-21-2006, 09:21 PM
What about Oyster Bay Cove?

Rumor has it... That dept. is on its way to be absorbed by Old Brookville. So the decision is yours.

Put it this way, if you're only beginning your investigation now take any village that offers because this list is going to expire before you get a chance at NCPD.

Would bng absorbed by Old Brookville be a bad thing?

09-22-2006, 06:39 PM
Does choosing a village make any difference as far as job security? Can the village trustees decide to use NCPD instead of thr own force?

09-22-2006, 09:35 PM
:D

09-22-2006, 10:19 PM
:D

Doesn't really answer the question TG.

09-23-2006, 10:21 AM
Does choosing a village make any difference as far as job security? Can the village trustees decide to use NCPD instead of thr own force?

Anyone?

$helldon
09-25-2006, 11:35 AM
Any village which has its own police department must hold a referendum to eliminate it, with a majority of the residents voting in the affirmative to eliminate the department. Village Trustees do not have the authority to eliminate the department themselves.

09-25-2006, 12:32 PM
the current list wont expire for about another 2 years. The next exam is going to be mid- late 07, and it takes about another year to establish a list, and I'm [/u]guessing that bng so NCPD is down to a grade of 86 or so, in the next two years they could possibly put in 2 more classes and they would probably be calling people down to grade 84 maybe. so theres still hope for alot of people.

09-25-2006, 04:29 PM
Any village which has its own police department must hold a referendum to eliminate it, with a majority of the residents voting in the affirmative to eliminate the department. Village Trustees do not have the authority to eliminate the department themselves.

Can you be fired and are you assured of bng taken by someone in Nassau?

09-26-2006, 02:26 PM
Does anyone know if school buses are required to obey a "No Trucks" posting on a street if they have no stops. I have been trying to get this answer from my Village PD, but no luck. Buses are using this designated block for a cutoff street and thr dispatchers are saying thay are exempt.
Thanks!

09-26-2006, 04:06 PM
Can you be fired and are you assured of bng taken by someone in Nassau?

If the village disbands its police department, you will be laid off and you have no assurance of a job in another Dept.

09-26-2006, 06:01 PM
Can you be fired and are you assured of bng taken by someone in Nassau?

If the village disbands its police department, you will be laid off and you have no assurance of a job in another Dept.

Thanks for the answer. I'm sure its unlikely though. At l I hope.

09-29-2006, 10:16 PM
When was the last time a village got disbanded?, more places want thr own police now than before.

In the unlikely event that it got disbanded( requires two votes spanning over an election day to avoid cranky trustees) you would be put on a preferential hiring list for the position of police officer in Nassau County. Yes you would be unemployed during that time...its not going to happen its more likely you will die from boredom in a place like Oyster Bay cove.

09-30-2006, 10:41 AM
When was the last time a village got disbanded?, more places want thr own police now than before.

In the unlikely event that it got disbanded( requires two votes spanning over an election day to avoid cranky trustees) you would be put on a preferential hiring list for the position of police officer in Nassau County. Yes you would be unemployed during that time...its not going to happen its more likely you will die from boredom in a place like Oyster Bay cove.

You'll be bored in most villages. OBC is probably the quietest of them all though. $100k+ to be bored ain't so bad!!!

09-30-2006, 11:19 AM
Does anyone know if school buses are required to obey a "No Trucks" posting on a street if they have no stops. I have been trying to get this answer from my Village PD, but no luck. Buses are using this designated block for a cutoff street and thr dispatchers are saying thay are exempt.
Thanks!not only are they exempt but if you get in thr way they can run you down

10-01-2006, 07:12 AM
When was the last time a village got disbanded?, more places want thr own police now than before.

In the unlikely event that it got disbanded( requires two votes spanning over an election day to avoid cranky trustees) you would be put on a preferential hiring list for the position of police officer in Nassau County. Yes you would be unemployed during that time...its not going to happen its more likely you will die from boredom in a place like Oyster Bay cove.

Cove Neck, Laurel Hollow, both disbanded. And both nghbors of Oyster Bay Cove. OBC policed Cove Neck after it disbanded, but pulled out after there were problems with the mayors. When OBC lost the Cove Neck money, it put a big financial strain on OBC. Then OBC Chief went out on permanent disability. Then effort to revitalize OBC failed when mayor pulled the plug. Now they're just counting days to retirement until residents figure out that they're paying $100 grand a man to sit around waiting for the phone to ring.

10-01-2006, 12:23 PM
When was the last time a village got disbanded?, more places want thr own police now than before.

In the unlikely event that it got disbanded( requires two votes spanning over an election day to avoid cranky trustees) you would be put on a preferential hiring list for the position of police officer in Nassau County. Yes you would be unemployed during that time...its not going to happen its more likely you will die from boredom in a place like Oyster Bay cove.

Cove Neck, Laurel Hollow, both disbanded. And both nghbors of Oyster Bay Cove. OBC policed Cove Neck after it disbanded, but pulled out after there were problems with the mayors. When OBC lost the Cove Neck money, it put a big financial strain on OBC. Then OBC Chief went out on permanent disability. Then effort to revitalize OBC failed when mayor pulled the plug. Now they're just counting days to retirement until residents figure out that they're paying $100 grand a man to sit around waiting for the phone to ring.

Really. There are MANY other villages where the officers are sitting around waiting for the phone to ring at $100k per year. That's the way the residents want it.....no crime. Sounds like someone has an issue.

10-01-2006, 01:07 PM
I heard OBC just hired two new guys. Sounds like they're doing ok.

?
10-01-2006, 01:53 PM
Whats the deal with Mineola creating thr own PD? Did the vote pass or fail?

10-03-2006, 03:19 PM
Does anyone know if school buses are required to obey a "No Trucks" posting on a street if they have no stops. I have been trying to get this answer from my Village PD, but no luck. Buses are using this designated block for a cutoff street and thr dispatchers are saying thay are exempt.
Thanks!not only are they exempt but if you get in thr way they can run you down


Are you serious about the exempt part? I know they will run you down - especially WE Transport

thehornet
10-03-2006, 04:40 PM
they're still kicking it around. There are many questions as to how cost effective it will or won't be. While a nicely done report of in terms of how it looks, here are MANY items passed over of ignored in it.

10-06-2006, 03:18 PM
Anyone get conditional offers from villages this past week?

10-06-2006, 03:43 PM
Freeport and Centre Island.


Any villages that you should avoid?

10-18-2006, 06:35 PM
OBC had a cop transfer because of lay off threats in last contract...sounds like a village Id work for.. NOT
if a PD is taken over by another PD, there is NO guarentee of a job..ever !

10-18-2006, 08:22 PM
OBC had a cop transfer because of lay off threats in last contract...sounds like a village Id work for.. NOT
if a PD is taken over by another PD, there is NO guarentee of a job..ever !

There are no threats of lay offs in the OBC contract. That guy was a tool. Why would anyone not want a cake job like that? There are other villages with more issues. No one has been laid off from a village and not caught on somewhere else. Chill people.

10-18-2006, 10:10 PM
This is a funny thread. Any of the useless villages would be a slam dunk for one of you lazy Mutha's!!! DONUTS and do nothing village cops!

10-19-2006, 08:19 AM
This is a funny thread. Any of the useless villages would be a slam dunk for one of you lazy Mutha's!!! DONUTS and do nothing village cops!
hi jeffrey

10-19-2006, 09:11 AM
worst thing about OBC is complete boredome. They just hired so its unlikely they are bng swallowed up or voted out. Bring plenty of reading material.

Coffee
10-19-2006, 09:46 AM
Mineola set the referendum date for December 5th. If the people of the Village feel the same way I do, it’s Bye-Bye Nassau County PD – Hello Mineola PD.

10-19-2006, 10:02 AM
This is a funny thread. Any of the useless villages would be a slam dunk for one of you lazy Mutha's!!! DONUTS and do nothing village cops!
hi xxxccc
hey j e f f r e y you are such the troll your name is BANNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-21-2006, 04:39 PM
Which is busiest? Slowest?

10-21-2006, 05:16 PM
Which is busiest? Slowest?

Do some investigative work and read all the pages of the thread.

10-21-2006, 06:06 PM
Which is busiest? Slowest?

Do some investigative work and read all the pages of the thread.

I did. It mentions only a few with regards to that question. There are many villages in Nassau.

10-21-2006, 06:22 PM
Which is busiest? Slowest?

Do some investigative work and read all the pages of the thread.

I did. It mentions only a few with regards to that question. There are many villages in Nassau.

Come back when you get an offer from a village

10-21-2006, 08:10 PM
Anyone? Much appreciated.