AME Spending out of control !!

[uniongal]

This Union is a joke! The way they are spending our dues money the Union will be broke in a year! Do they plan on RAISING DUES? Nice idea with no raises!!:">
This group sux. I know alot of people who voted for them " for a Change". They are soooo sorry now. Junkets to Albany, new cars and trucks etc... Have you seen the latest so called AME Voice? Are this idiots for real? I hear they named Josephine Passantino the new 4th VP; what a great idea. All they need to do now is get her above a 5th grade education. Then she'll be the smartest 1 up there.
I think Blue Collar will decertify if this continues. If they do then Ann Abel can write another brilliant article about how its great to have a "Spin-Off" Union like the Probation Officers. The Park PD is up and thenwho kmows? Don't they understand breaking up the union into little pieces benefits the county. I am starting to think that is the idea, and that Cheryl(Lets go to happy hour) Felice has cut a deal with Levy and Schaefer to scerw us all. I can't wait to dump this bunch.

[Eyes Wide Open]

Not only are they spendinglike drunken sailors, they refuse to answer calls....I hear some blue collar guys have been trying to reach the Exec VP for days now, and he never returns calls...guess he is too busy cow towing to Cheryl...or, he knows why they are calling, and doesn't want to face the issue...what a joke this Union has turned out to be....so much for Cheryl trying to look like a fresh face, she has been there the longest, and continues to do nothing but promote herself via the voice etc....loved those member letters:the editor of the voice should be ashamed at the lousy content of the Voice....lol

Is AME the lesbo union?

[Another Union Guy]

So, who was it that voted these people into the presidential spots? Wasn't it you the union membership? If you think you can do a better job, then put your money where your mouth is, and run for the position! If not, then quit your bellyaching!

[Their own agenda]

Dan Sicilian,...Now that is a JOKE!!!!!! Why he's if at all 0possible, a worse Union rep than Bobby Tuerlings...Put tyhe both of them together and you still have nothing!!!

[unionguy]

Dan Scicilian??
What a dumb mook!!!
Besides he is up there with Cheryl approving everything she is doing. He is stained forever.

[UNION MEMBER]

these bozos are quick enough to come around at election time but where are they when you need them at a up state junket or taping a new stupid ame radio ad

[Unions ex wife]

Anyone with half a brain would leave long island to the corrupt to deal with the gangs & foreighnors.

[bickrand]

...is actully a good spend. When the last time you heard an ad from any unions.

[confused]

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JIM SCHAEFER WHO WAS ARRESTED TODAY BY TOM SPOTA'S TEAM?; WOW IF SO GUESS HE WAS DIRTIER THAN JUST ISLIP TOWN!!!

[unionguy]

Nice try Bick but we ain't buying that crap. Unfortunately we are paying for these useless ads.

[THE CRITIC]

HEY BICK, I WORKED FOR A COUPLE BIG TEAMSTER LOCALS AND THEY NEVER USED RADIO ADS. WHAT ARE THEY TRING TO SELL? RADIO ADS ARE MADE FOR SELLING PRODUCTS. ARE THEY TRING TO SELL US SOMETHING BESIDE THE SAME OLD B.S. ??????
IF SO I'M NOT BUYING IT EITHER.:">

[CLARK KENT]

Cheryl is selling her Name, that is what this is all about but you elected her. She is doing the best that she can to advance the publics image of the public Employee's...
You elect people to carry your bag only too tear them down it's called the human conditioning factor.You build them up and then you tear them down.This is the way all of the Association Members deported them selves in the past why would they change now....The County loves to ensure that you are all devided.You need to decertify or elect an Outsider as your President....

[Bystander]

Let's face it. AME hasn't had an effective president since Charlie Novo. He's the only one who knew how to use the power of 7,000 employees. These guys are meek sheep. The contract ran out almost a year ago. Most other unions would have been screaming for blood long ago.

[unionguy]

Either you are uninformed or you are just a Charlie Novo butt boy. The fact is we got our last contract settled in record time, only 6 months after it expired, and it had a decent raise, 10% over 3 yrs. I would gladly take that now. Cheryl just likes spending our dues. They are all puppets. Shame on the idiots that voted for her.

[Me Mi Mo]

If you're upset about AME's spending, just file a Beck Objection and pass out copies to other union members who feel the same way.

A Beck objection forces your union to refund any dues paid withing the last year which they cannot prove are directly spent on collective bargaining. Also, your union will have to provide you with a financial breakdown on how dues monies are spent every year, and will not be able to collect for all of those line items that have nothing to do with getting your contract.

No more financial support for business agents cars, trips, junkets, etc...

[ame watcher]

10 ame representatives were at the Oheka castle on Monday night. I am so happy that your dues are being well spent. Oh....they also bought an ad in te journal with your $. Maybe next time...they will ask you to go. It will be intresting which one of the 10 receives a promotion this year. Keep your eyes open and your hands on your wallet.

[AME SUCKER]

Can someone tell me how spending Union money to send a letter out endorsing someone for Fire Commissioner benifits the union? I understand the person may be a member but is the union going to send out letter for everyone running for an office that does not benifit the union? There are many local postions AME members may run for. School Board, Fire Commissioner, Fire District Treasurer, Village postions........the list goes on. This is another bright move by the union spending money to endorse the Hamburgler.

[PD BOY]

HEY QUIT TALKING ABOUT THE HAMBURGLER YOU ARE GETTING ME HUNGRY.I DID NOT GET A ENDORSEMENT LETTER IN THE MAIL.HOW MANY MORE YEARS WITH THESE BOZOS?THEY CAME TO MY WORK PLACE MAKING ALL PROMISES THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO THINGS THAT PHYLLIS G DID NOT DO.I CANT THINK OF ONE THING THEY DID TO BENEFIT MEMBERS.THEN THEY SAID THEY WOULD STOP IN EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.OH IM SORRY MAYBE THEY WERE IN ON MY DAYS OFF?ENJOY YOUR LITTLE STAY IN OFFICE WHILE IT LASTS BECAUSE THIS REGIME WOULD NEVER GET MY VOTE AGAIN.

[CLARK KENT]

Who! did AME Give their ENDORSEMENT for Fire District elections?

[AME SUCKER]

Out of frustration with the union I added the last line on my original post......maybe I shouldn't have. Anyway they sent an endorsement letter for a member running in the Selden election. I just feel we shouldn't be paying to send letters out for this. Give them a list of people to mail to at their expense.....not mine.

[UnionGuyToo]

They use to give a mailing list, but for the benefit of not letting everyone’s name and address out they now send them out themselves. $40 bucks or less in postage (being it only gets sent to the members within the district of the candidate) as a member benefit vs your name and address on the open market - you do the math and tell me which is better! If all 110 departments had a candidate running it would still be less then a business agents bar bill!

[unionguy]

This group up there is lost.D">
I guess we will have to wait until 06 to get a raise. Also all you union insiders who keep mentioning " Business Agents " , be avised this union doesn't have them. I has an executive board that is presently raping the union coffers.

[unionguy2]

"I guess we will have to wait until 06 to get a raise."

Just think how BIG that RETRO check will be!!!

[hi]

hehehe

[Unionguys]

Don't count on retro. Except to possibly 1/06.

[lone wolf]

That's the problem with this union membership...The Union leaders make us wait so long for a contract, so we take anything they throw at us just to get a retro check...That didn't happen with the previous administration...Phyllis got a contract within 6 months of the old one expiring...and the idi0ots that we are, voted her out...I was one of the fools...boy am I sorry...This group stimks...Cheryl and her "faithful sidekick" are raping this union.....

[SOS69]

BEFORE YOU KNOCK THE UNION LOOK WHO RUNNING THE COUNTY I DONT KNOW IF YOU WORK FOR THE COUNTY DURING HALPIN DAYS BUT THERE BACK. REMEMBER WHAT LEVY SAID WHILE RUNNING FOR OFFICE DO MORE WITH LESS.NEXT YEAR WHEN THE COUNTY LEG.ARE UP FOR RE-ELECTION THEY WILL BE LOOKING FOR OUR ENDORSMENT I SEEN THIS GO ON FOR 20 YRS .AND THEN THEIR ARE GOING WANT TO SETTLE.

[[b]also union[/b]]

All these posts about 6 month contract settlement. AT what cost? I remember we used to have a 11 step system with 4.1% increase between steps until you reached top then you got 4.5%increase. All of a sudden we have a great contract 12 steps and a screw step with a 3% between steps. Who's administration did that. These dummies paid for their OWN contract and refuse to accept that. If you did that in an outside union it would be a great blanket party.

[Ice cube]

Again AME isn't a Union... Stop! "Please Stop" calling this a Union some really good people died in the Name of labor.. None of who are Association members....

[uniongals]

"Also Union" is either an IDIOT or a Cheryl LAPDOG. :lol:
The steps are 3% now as opposed to 4.1%, before the 1996 agreement, that is true. But what this genious fails to mention is that the STEPS WERE NOT GUARANTEED!!! :oops: We got tribourough language in the 96 deal. Geez lets make the steps 6% BUT NOT GUARANTEE THEM EVERY JULY. Sound like the UNIT President from Health. :P Typical AME fool, can't see the forest before the trees. Must think Cheryl is good prez too. :lol: :shock:

[Ice cube]

Please don't call AME a Union or somebody is going to get it.....This is not a Union but the County should be in Negotiations with say a real Union person like myself. You see you all expect the AME Executive Board to be in Negotiations for you when you the Membership could give two sh#ts about what happens. That’s right you self serving mutts. You will never be happy with anybody who serve's you within this Association. And rightfully so, because you have been abused by all of the past representatives who you Voted into Office to bargain in good faith .This agreement started January 1,2001 through December 31,2003.The Medical Benefits are good until 2010….You hope….you can’t do nothing about your contract unless the County decides to agree. And that’s not happening any time soon.. If you do get a contract it will only be because the County Executive wants to piss of the PBA…I could say a lot more but who would care.

[Unionreview]

ICE CUBE knows enuff to be dangerous. First off the benefits are protected till 2010. How do you think that came about?? The previous board got that you fool. What are you Bi polar? You state we will never be happy with anyone we elect and we are self serving mutts, but then you say it is "rightfully so to feel this way". :roll: You're all over the place and then have the ego to say vote for me I will get you a contract. :lol:
Nice try, the members heard that from Cheryl, look where that got us??? ZIP!!!!! Crawl back into your ego-maniacal bi-polar hole you jerk. :lol:

[ICE CUBE]

Jack ass! you are a self serving Mutt. You will never get a contract worth anything, because all you people do is put each other down.Why not vote for me. I could never do any less then you prozac breath.Also "Analyze this" moron don't tell me this Assoc couldn't negotiate this benefit away making new employees responsible for 20% of the medical, tell me this can't happen tell me that this won't happen because you can't. Remember contracts are made to be broken.And you as a employee can't do nothing about that except stamp your feet.This AME Executive Board has an ill -spirited way about them.As did all of the others or did you foreget that they burned one of your ExVP'S Car in his Driveway..... while his wife and kids slep just below the window of the car burning in the driveway how sleazy is that.Thats right this did happen and this Assoc has never been taken to task for that....So don't tell me you people are normal.How about the Assoc Secretary who came to work in his wheelchair the prior administration physically pushed him out the door and through his Wheelchair out the door into the parking lot Ocean ave Office Ice cube out
ICE CUBE knows enuff to be dangerous. First off the benefits are protected till 2010. How do you think that came about?? The previous board got that you fool. What are you Bi polar? You state we will never be happy with anyone we elect and we are self serving mutts, but then you say it is "rightfully so to feel this way". :roll: You're all over the place and then have the ego to say vote for me I will get you a contract. :lol:
Nice try, the members heard that from Cheryl, look where that got us??? ZIP!!!!! Crawl back into your ego-maniacal bi-polar hole you jerk. :lol:

[Unionreview]

Vote for you? :P Who are you? What are you? Tell us your name or shut up you fool. Your facts are screwed up again. :cry: First of all I CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT A CHANGE IN MY BENEFITS, it's called voting against it. As will many other members, if they feel they will be next. You call this Board "Ill-Spirited" :roll: How about incompetent! Unless you're one of them, masquerading as an unhappy member. As far as the car burning incident you are referring to, that happened almost 20 yrs ago! :lol: The same goes for the treasurer, not Assoc Secretary, as you mentioned. You are NOT a member of this UNION anyway, otherwise you wouldn't be referring to us as "YOU PEOPLE". Nice try. :lol: So go crawl back into that aforementioned hole. :lol:

[uniongals]

ICE CUBE is not in this union. He sounds like a Teamster loser.
Get lost cube head.

[Ice Cube]

So! I don' t know what I'm talking about. I know how to get you to admit that what I said was true.. And you fell for it. What a jackass!!
So I don't know what I'm talking about. If I don't, then why did you confirm what I said was true? you even corrected me that it was treasurer not Assoc Secretary Why should, I shut up. How about you stop calling this a Union....GROW UP STOP SUCKING YOUR THUMB.
Or anything else for that matter.WHO'S THE FOOL. I HAD TO HIT YOU ONCE TO TALK, & 4 TIME's TO SHUT-UP....Moron go sit on your collective A$$ and sell everyone down the river.Don't you feel foolish.Let's try this again.I said the Executive Boards have been "Ill-Spirited. Key word past representatives, yes you said incompetent.It doesn’t seem that we are in total disagreement on all of the issues.Now that I tip my mit what else can you tell us about AME Assoc Not Union please stop calling this a Union. Ill make a deal with you you tell us that you are not a dike. And I will call this a Union.Uniongals Who are you. I pay my dues to AME thats who I am and I'm not disappointed with them because I know they can't do anything because they are not a Union just an Association. Who work for the Employer oh! There is a contract big deal means nothing. You have people on the payroll who are eligible for welfare they can't feed thier Family maybe AME should get a list of the people working for the County see how many of them qualify for welfar,Food stamps etc...Tell the County executive that you did a survey and each of the Assoc Members will be going to social services to apply for benifits.And tell the Labor relations pukes that a list of employees eligible for benefits will be released to the media .Then you will see a response for a contract.Also any contract that omitts a cost of living (COLA) is not a contract don't let them bull shit you.........Tell us your name or are you masquerading as well.I am not a AME Officer Yes I am a Member of the Assoc.This I will tell you So thanks for you input so the whole world can see how messed up this AME Assoc is.gee what do you suggest how about you tell us about the credit card Incident with a former President (Not D prior) we know about him.He was the only hope you all had. You road him out on a Bike with dikes.Ice-Cube out!!!!!!!
Vote for you? :P Who are you? What are you? Tell us your name or shut up you fool. Your facts are screwed up again. :cry: First of all I CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT A CHANGE IN MY BENEFITS, it's called voting against it. As will many other members, if they feel they will be next. You call this Board "Ill-Spirited" :roll: How about incompetent! Unless you're one of them, masquerading as an unhappy member. As far as the car burning incident you are referring to, that happened almost 20 yrs ago! :lol: The same goes for the treasurer, not Assoc Secretary, as you mentioned. You are NOT a member of this UNION anyway, otherwise you wouldn't be referring to us as "YOU PEOPLE". Nice try. :lol: So go crawl back into that aforementioned hole. :lol:

[also union]

You know Ice cube is right we are nothing but an Ass-oc.
As for the 96 agreement, :evil: uniongals :twisted: , we had no problem getting our 4.1% raises before 96. When we got promoted we also received them, we may have fallen back 2 to 3 steps not 5 to 6 steps. When you were at top step and got promoted (by career ladder) you fell back 1 maybe 2. Because of the great 96 deal some people can be in the system their whole career and NEVER reach top step. You and :twisted: Union Review :twisted: don't want to accept the fact that ONE GIVE BACK paid for our contract and then some. Maybe you should READ the early contracts and compare them with what we have now you will find more give aways in the last 2 then ever before. :(

[Ice Cube]

Thank You ,Thank you,I can't tell you how happy this posting made me, because somebody has told the truth for once. They did have give backs in the 96 agreement but nobody would of ever known because the written agreement Jan 1 2001-Dec 31,2003 was never handed out to the membership until years later. I used a Blue Collar #6 handbook for years before I ever received an updated copy. This Book was dated in Jan 1,1989-Dec 31,1991 Novo was President. So if any give backs occured between 1996 and the issuing of Jan 1,2001 this could be. Also This time frame resulted in two Assoc Presidents One resigning and the other was removed. These are the things that get the membership upset. I know some things were said in jest but the truth of the matter is nothing good will ever come from this association. Until the person on top is willing to go to jail for it's membership. New York City Union leaders in the 60's did just that they went to prison for the Membership.Remember the Time is right for the Assoc to standup to the County on the Issue of who will be filing for Food stamps any time soon.Let's do a study of the pay between other skilled labor and the County employees and let the shoe fall where it may as a result of that study. Present this evaluation to the people for there review if the County blows it off. Let the people decide if the wage of Suffolk County employees are below poverty levels. Not the Newsday report on correction Officers, Police this is not a true depiction of the facts.
You know Ice cube is right we are nothing but an Ass-oc.
As for the 96 agreement, :evil: uniongals :twisted: , we had no problem getting our 4.1% raises before 96. When we got promoted we also received them, we may have fallen back 2 to 3 steps not 5 to 6 steps. When you were at top step and got promoted (by career ladder) you fell back 1 maybe 2. Because of the great 96 deal some people can be in the system their whole career and NEVER reach top step. You and :twisted: Union Review :twisted: don't want to accept the fact that ONE GIVE BACK paid for our contract and then some. Maybe you should READ the early contracts and compare them with what we have now you will find more give aways in the last 2 then ever before. :(
You know Ice cube is right we are nothing but an Ass-oc.
As for the 96 agreement, :evil: uniongals :twisted: , we had no problem getting our 4.1% raises before 96. When we got promoted we also received them, we may have fallen back 2 to 3 steps not 5 to 6 steps. When you were at top step and got promoted (by career ladder) you fell back 1 maybe 2. Because of the great 96 deal some people can be in the system their whole career and NEVER reach top step. You and :twisted: Union Review :twisted: don't want to accept the fact that ONE GIVE BACK paid for our contract and then some. Maybe you should READ the early contracts and compare them with what we have now you will find more give aways in the last 2 then ever before. :(

[also union]

I guess what the last two posts said, :P union gals and union review couldn't respond because It's true information :P :P :P

[Ice Cube1]

How about this scenario Let's say you are negotiating a contract and the employer suggests givebacks just like the county and AME suggests, Well if your part of the negotiation team then you demand that the county provide a provision for a cost of living raise or walk away because unless you get a cost of living you don't have a contract at all. And if your willing to work with this then consider it a give back and start right from their....I also suggest that you conduct a survey to see how many of your members qualify for food stamps.Then these people should be Sent to your Social Service Office and file for assistance. Then once you put this list together you put it on the table. And you tell the County if they don't meet your demands for a fair contract you will release this data to the media.This way the truth will be told because everybody thinks that the County employees are well off.I'm talking about AME Members not COBRA,DEA,SOA,PBA,SDBA etc.....

e="also union"]I guess what the last two posts said, :P union gals and union review couldn't respond because It's true information :P :P :P[/quote]

[ST IVES]

I WENT TO THE UNION MEETING THE OTHER DAY THE COUNTY WANTS ALL 35 AND 37AND ONE HALF HOUR WORKERS TO NOW WORK 40 HOURS.I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM TO GET OUR CONTRACT SETTLED.

[unionreview]

I didn't respond because those posts come from people who don't know all the facts or only tell part of the story.
SO.... :roll:

[also union]

:twisted: Here's your chance to tell the whole story. SO DO IT!!! :twisted: :twisted:

I didn't respond because those posts come from people who don't know all the facts or only tell part of the story.
SO.... :roll:

[AME OFFICER]

I am a Full time officer at AME in Bohemia. We work very hard here and Levy really sux. We can't accept his givebacks. Cheryl is doing a GREAT JOB! :D We will fight till the end. We will run for re-election next year with or without a contract. Cheryl will jettison a couple of officers for her re-election. Dan and Dan will be gone. I've been assured of that. Hang in there AME members.

Without a good contract, none of you should run for office. Tell Cheryl to stop wasting time with the radio ads and spend that money for a good labor lawyer.

Stop pussyfooting around and throw up some picket lines here and there, and let the county know how you feel. Stop with the once a month negotiations and negotiate every day. What is wrong with you people! If Felice thinks she's getting in without a contract your dreaming. You got to get out of that office once in a while and listen to the opinions of the members.

[Ice Cube1]

You have to get them to work first, then you can negotiate.






I WENT TO THE UNION MEETING THE OTHER DAY THE COUNTY WANTS ALL 35 AND 37AND ONE HALF HOUR WORKERS TO NOW WORK 40 HOURS.I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM TO GET OUR CONTRACT SETTLED.

[Ice Cube1]

why Dan & Dan what have they done to be kicked off of the ticket?





I am a Full time officer at AME in Bohemia. We work very hard here and Levy really sux. We can't accept his givebacks. Cheryl is doing a GREAT JOB! :D We will fight till the end. We will run for re-election next year with or without a contract. Cheryl will jettison a couple of officers for her re-election. Dan and Dan will be gone. I've been assured of that. Hang in there AME members.

I WENT TO THE UNION MEETING THE OTHER DAY THE COUNTY WANTS ALL 35 AND 37AND ONE HALF HOUR WORKERS TO NOW WORK 40 HOURS.I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM TO GET OUR CONTRACT SETTLED.
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Know what, that would be great. It would really blow the county budget.. lets see, i make more then 30 dollars per hour (grade 16) and work 35 hours a week, paid hourly. Now ill work 40 hours a week, thats an extra 10 hours pay per bi-weekly check or 10x $30= $300 bi weeklyx26 pay checks=a big raise of $ 7,800 per employee at the current salary.. If this is true, Cheryl you go for it. Of course add more hours for sick time and vaction earnings as well :lol:

What does this all say, the above poster is full of shit...

[quote="Ice Cube1"]why Dan & Dan what have they done to be kicked off of the ticket?





Ate more food than Felice! She's jealous that they stand up to take a leak and she can't

"Ate more food than Felice! She's jealous that they stand up to take a leak and she can't"

Why can't she take a leak standing up ????

[Ice Cube1]

How did the demonstrations go...I guess you have to do what you have to do but this method is an exercise in fertility?

[ST IVES]

MORON I GUESS YOU WERE NOT AT THE MEETING. THE COUNTY WANTS US TO WORK EXTRA HOURS AND NOT PAY US FOR THEM.GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU SAY SOMEONE IS FULL OF SHIT.

[scpd gal]

hey st ives i was at that meeting to.you gotta love these people they bitch about the union but dont go to any meetings.

[Ice Cube1]

Ice Cube predictions
My expectation that the Fed will increase short-term interest rates from the current 2 3/4 percent to at least 3 1/2 percent.

My expectation that mortgage rates could be at 6 1/4 percent to 6 3/8 percent in the next few months. "Certainly, something in the range of 6 3/8, maybe even 6 1/2, is definitely different than 5 1/2," he said.

The national consumer price level in February represented the fastest-rising rate in four months. Home sales fell. Together, they represented fresh signs that inflation and higher interest rates may be exacting a toll on the U.S. economy.
The latest snapshot of inflation, released by the Labor Department on Wednesday, raised the chances that the Federal Reserve might have to be more aggressive in its interest rate-raising campaign, economists said.
The consumer price index jumped 0.4 percent in February as costs rose for items like energy, health care and education. The pickup in inflation came after consumer prices were flat in December and increased by just 0.1 percent in January.
Separately, the National Association of Realtors reported that sales of previously owned homes dipped 0.4 percent in February to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 6.79 million. But while sales fell, home prices continue to rise sharply. The median price for existing homes — where half sell for more and half sell for less — was $191,000 in February, an 11 percent increase from the same month a year ago.
On Wall Street, the Dow Jones industrials lost 14.49 points to close at 10,456.02.
Economists believe home sales will cool as mortgage rates are expected to head higher this year. But they note that, with the economy expanding, some companies are finding it easier to boost prices. A weaker U.S. dollar also is putting pressure on prices of imported goods, which gives American companies more room to raise prices.
Rising inflation can strain the family budget. After adjusting for inflation, weekly earnings of nonsupervisory workers dropped 0.4 percent in February, compared with a 0.2 percent increase in January.

You do the Math? without a cost of Living you have Nothing.......



How did the demonstrations go...I guess you have to do what you have to do but this method is an exercise in fertility?

[Ice Cube1]

Hey! AME needs to eliminate the step system .You need to reduce steps to Five years. If you don't know how your employee is after 5 years,Give up. NO-BODY FAILS PROBATION. So who's kidding who. Reduce the step system

[Gadfly05]

:D Bump :lol:
Hey! AME needs to eliminate the step system .You need to reduce steps to Five years. If you don't know how your employee is after 5 years,Give up. NO-BODY FAILS PROBATION. So who's kidding who. Reduce the step system

[ouchhhhhhhhhhhh]

The union did the opposite several years ago, we went from 8 steps to the current 12. The county saves tons of money with the system in place now. I don't know the reason for this change, I hope it was worth it, now every new employee has to go 4 more years for top step. If anyone knows what we gained by giving in to 12 steps please enlighten me, maybe I'll understand the reason...

[Also Union]

Read my posts you will get the answer there!!!

The union did the opposite several years ago, we went from 8 steps to the current 12. The county saves tons of money with the system in place now. I don't know the reason for this change, I hope it was worth it, now every new employee has to go 4 more years for top step. If anyone knows what we gained by giving in to 12 steps please enlighten me, maybe I'll understand the reason...

[Ice Cube1]

What in the sam hill, are you talking about. Read my post?. What finger am I holding up..............Spit it out already it could take 20 years for some people to top out, that’s right so when all of us tax payers complain about the service you receive as being bad. Think about how much you are saving by having a public employee handling your problems. In spite of all of this most Municipal employees do the Job. And do it well……Give backs that's what we all should remember. But put a few crums in front of AME Members and they fold....A little birdie told me that half of retro 2,2,4,4 .......No cost of living....


Read my posts you will get the answer there!!!

The union did the opposite several years ago, we went from 8 steps to the current 12. The county saves tons of money with the system in place now. I don't know the reason for this change, I hope it was worth it, now every new employee has to go 4 more years for top step. If anyone knows what we gained by giving in to 12 steps please enlighten me, maybe I'll understand the reason...

It's really funny how all the postings I see on this site lately have to do with Steve Levy and not the real issue of how Cheryl and the Exec. Board sold all of us out. Cheryl has been telling people that Probation got almost the same exact deal through arbitration. She doesn’t tell you it’s because that’s what we got thanks to her. She also claims that she single handedly saved us from paying for our Medical benefit when in reality this issue is negotiated with all nine (sorry) ten unions and should not even been part the negotiations. WAY TO GO CHERYL !!!

[Unregistered99999]

Dan Sicilian,...Now that is a JOKE!!!!!! Why he's if at all 0possible, a worse Union rep than Bobby Tuerlings...Put tyhe both of them together and you still have nothing!!!

you should see his fucking act now!!!!

[Unregistered huh]

you should see his fucking act now!!!! what now? its allways some thing.

[Unregistered59]

What did they do now?

[fuckingfedup]

Just in case you don't go to the other thread. Check out this Bull Shit. This is why Cheryl is out.

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Workers' benefits changes will save Suffolk $15M

BY RICK BRAND | rick.brand@newsday.com
January 8, 2009

Suffolk County's union workers are facing higher co-pays and limits on their drug and doctor benefits, saving the county $15 million. And in return, employees will avoid paying a part of their health insurance premiums.

County Executive Steve Levy's office sent a memo to employees last week detailing a half dozen changes that took effect Jan. 1, affecting 48,000 county workers, their families and retirees. The employees' health insurance will cost the county $260 million this year.

But the head of the Suffolk Police Benevolent Association, Jeff Frayler, said he never signed off on the final deal. He said the changes should not be implemented until the union can get more information.

Jeff Tempera, Suffolk County's director of labor relations, said Cheryl Felice, president of the Association of Municipal Employees and the union co-chair of Suffolk's self-insured Employee Medical Health Plan, signed off on the final provisions of the deal in a Dec. 16 letter on behalf of all 10 county unions.

"We don't look at these as concessions," said Felice, who acknowledged the letter. "We provided $15 million in additional cost savings in exchange for maintaining coverage premium-free until 2012."

Levy said the unions made "common sense" steps "that enable people to get really good care but with methods that save the county a lot of money." He added the most important giveback was requiring employees to work for the county 10 years before qualifying for lifetime coverage at retirement. Currently, officials say that a county employee is eligible after one year.

In Nassau, union employees also pay no share for health coverage, but nonunion employees hired after Thomas Suozzi became county executive pay 5 percent for individual coverage and 10 percent for family coverage. Suozzi officials said there are about 660 nonunion employees but could not say how many receive coverage.

The largest Suffolk savings, $6.5 million, comes from changing the physician network to one limited to the tri-state area that has deeper discounts than a national network. Increased co-pays will save $2.65-million, increasing from $16 to $20 for regular doctor visits and from $16 to $25 for specialists.

The county will also save $2.5 million by requiring county retirees on Medicare to pay their co-pays rather than have it paid by the county plan. Spouses who both work for the county will be limited to enroll for family coverage once and be required to make co-payments and meet deductibles, saving $761,000.

Felice said the plan's consultant estimated the lifetime benefits were worth $113,000 a year in savings to the county. Levy aides estimate the savings from the lifetime benefits at $1 million.
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[Unregistered00]

you should see his fucking act now!!!!

wow, a 3 year bump.......you must be on the clock.

[Unregistered8765]

I heard Dan Farrell is going to run for ame pres because cheryl has a better offer? what a douche bag,

[BOD GAL]

I heard Dan Farrell is going to run for ame pres because cheryl has a better offer? what a douche bag,

I would hope that the membership isnt stupid enough to vote for
Danny (I did her too) Farrell.
Although, I wouldnt put anything past these members.

[Unregistered5432]

I would hope that the membership isnt stupid enough to vote for
Danny (I did her too) Farrell.
Although, I wouldnt put anything past these members.

I think even the stupid ones who voted for cheryl last time now see what a shit bag they all are.

[Unregistered423]

It won't be only Farrel running Congedo is out to run also as president his wife gave in and said its ok now especially since the money is good.. What a crew Frank, Congedo, Farrell, Debbie H, can you imagine it ..good luck to all of us...

[Unregistered789]

It won't be only Farrel running Congedo is out to run also as president his wife gave in and said its ok now especially since the money is good.. What a crew Frank, Congedo, Farrell, Debbie H, can you imagine it ..good luck to all of us...

remember to remind your co workers to vote. Too many of us do not vote. We have 8000 mambers and about one third vote. I think is will be easier to get people out to vote after they have to make some of those co pays

[Unregistered325]

We hope the members will be smart enough to get them all out especially the ones not elected to the post. They are sorry asses that couldn't make it in themselves by being elected but got in only by kissing Cheryls ass. Hopefully the members will get out there and vote this time and clean house as they say, they all need to go and start over with a board interested in doing the right thing for the members not themselves..VOTE VOTE VOTE and remember we need new decent people running our union not the same type as what we have now....

[Unregistered086]

Does any one know what happened at the special scope meeting last night.

[2468, who can we delegate]

DUMP CHERYL and the entire Executive Board. They are ALL useless. And can anyone in their right mind see Lydia as a leader? I can see the county yelling at her and her just sitting there and like she did with Cheryl and Danny boy. We need someone who knows how to deal with management on a professional level.

SAVE A.M.E.

[Unregistered1234]

DUMP CHERYL and the entire Executive Board. They are ALL useless. And can anyone in their right mind see Lydia as a leader? I can see the county yelling at her and her just sitting there and like she did with Cheryl and Danny boy. We need someone who knows how to deal with management on a professional level.

SAVE A.M.E.

I agree with the Dump Cheryl. But Lydia has my vote. She will fight for the membership.

[Unregistered345]

Lydia is not the one to run anything since she cannot even run her own life. Give us a break how can anyone want Lydia after all we know about her and how she reacts to discord. She also has to go with the rest of the trash.. New Blood is what is needed not like the re runs we have up there now. Congedo is an example what did he do before what is he doing now and what can you expect from him in the future. He is old ,run down, useless, and can't let it go, therefore we have to change the menu...That whole bunch of them are has beens and are all a joke that is bringing us all down the river...We should only have elected people on the Ex bd, not the hand picked wanna bees that are there now..

[Unregistered987]

Lydia is not the one to run anything since she cannot even run her own life. Give us a break how can anyone want Lydia after all we know about her and how she reacts to discord. She also has to go with the rest of the trash.. New Blood is what is needed not like the re runs we have up there now. Congedo is an example what did he do before what is he doing now and what can you expect from him in the future. He is old ,run down, useless, and can't let it go, therefore we have to change the menu...That whole bunch of them are has beens and are all a joke that is bringing us all down the river...We should only have elected people on the Ex bd, not the hand picked wanna bees that are there now..

All I know is I don't remember voting for any of those morons. How did they get into those positions. Why didn't anyone speak up. Oh thats right LYDIA spoke up and was forced out. The rest of the morons just sit there scared to death Cheryl will yell at them. Lydia is the only one to go after Cheryl and what she has done. We need someone in there who will not back down. We need Cheryl and her morons to be out by the time contract talks begin or we will be sold further down the river. I am voting for Lydia and her ticket and so are the people in my department,

[Unregistered335]

Lydia please what has she really done except hang her laundry out for all of us to see. Who really cared anyway , tell me a few things she has really done to deserve being president, what has she done for the members, nothing I can point out that was to our benifit, she dosen't do anything but moan moan moan so give me a break she is not the answer to our problem, they have to get out but putting her in would be just as bad if not worse......

[Unregisteredme2]

Lydia please what has she really done except hang her laundry out for all of us to see. Who really cared anyway , tell me a few things she has really done to deserve being president, what has she done for the members, nothing I can point out that was to our benifit, she dosen't do anything but moan moan moan so give me a break she is not the answer to our problem, they have to get out but putting her in would be just as bad if not worse......

Worse, would be listening to a fool like you.

[Unregistered987]

Lydia please what has she really done except hang her laundry out for all of us to see. Who really cared anyway , tell me a few things she has really done to deserve being president, what has she done for the members, nothing I can point out that was to our benifit, she dosen't do anything but moan moan moan so give me a break she is not the answer to our problem, they have to get out but putting her in would be just as bad if not worse......

Maybe you should ask yourself what have you done to stop the bleeding. My guess is nothing. The AME is near dead because of Cheryl. The members have to make certain that Cheryl and the morons with her do not get in. We need to stand together. Lydia at least has the guts to stand up to cheryl. That is why she has taken so much shit. We need Cheryl and her morons out. We need to stand together. I am voting for Lydia and her ticket to make sure Cheryl and her ass holes are out.

[Unregistered123454]

Nobody spends more then our board at SCCOA. They have even been investigated and will soon be charged. We're talking millions in the past ten years!

[Unregistered987]

Nobody spends more then our board at SCCOA. They have even been investigated and will soon be charged. We're talking millions in the past ten years!

I would like to have the ame investigated how did you do it

[Unregisterkobbs]

OMG the people on this site complaining about lydia sound like their on the Executive Board already, god give it up. Lydia is all this union has now so shes got my vote too!!! AME should be investigated but you dont need to know how to do it cause i hear its in the works already=-o

[Unregisteredplease]

Read the voice what a poor excuse for a pres and vp we have. the charges are laughable and the bod is even funnier. Debbie H should give it up already she is definitely a cheryl ass kisser, and since she has been unit pres since she got her great hair do she has got to go already, how many years is she going to be unit pres give someone else a shot at it maybe will will get a real bd member instead of an ass kisser. Lydia hasen't a chance Cheryl has gotten her way and the so called secret Lydia supporters didn't seem to be helping her out. Its a farce no one likes Lydia any more than they like Cheryl but they kiss Cheryls ass because she is in a better position to give them what they are after for themselves, Lydia can't help herself never mind the members...All have to go....

[Unregistered-09]

so dan is going to run as ame president what a joke

[well2]

What happened to Cheryl and AME being investigated? Why can't there be an independent audit? And I heard Cheryl and her crew bought paper shredders, sounds suspicious to me. I guess they are getting ready for when they loose.

[AME DUH]

Use a spell check.

What happened to Cheryl and AME being investigated? Why can't there be an independent audit? And I heard Cheryl and her crew bought paper shredders, sounds suspicious to me. I guess they are getting ready for when they loose.

[well2]

Use a spell check.

That's it? That's all you can come up with? That is the only thing bothering you?
Your the reason people like Cheryl get in.

[Incredulous 1]

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Know what, that would be great. It would really blow the county budget.. lets see, i make more then 30 dollars per hour (grade 16) and work 35 hours a week, paid hourly. Now ill work 40 hours a week, thats an extra 10 hours pay per bi-weekly check or 10x $30= $300 bi weeklyx26 pay checks=a big raise of $ 7,800 per employee at the current salary.. If this is true, Cheryl you go for it. Of course add more hours for sick time and vaction earnings as well :lol:

What does this all say, the above poster is full of shit...

Could You really be that STUPID! Have you ever read your contract? (Oh thats right cheryl doesn't hand them out you have to ask for it and then go get it yourself) ; well just to enlighten you. YOU ARE NOT ON A TIMECLOCK! You are not paid HOURLY! you get paid BI-WEEKLY, whether you work 35 hrs 37.5 hrs or 40 hrs SAME PAY - MORE HOURS WORKED. Please don't vote you'll only screw everything up by voting for LOSER CHERYL & the MISSFITS

[Unregistered 6666]

I bet Cheryl learned how to steal from her membershipfrom the Presidnet of SCCOA, or she taught him. Well whatever, AME members dont feel so all alone. We the members of SCCOA have been getting stolen from for years and after an investigation into it turned up the facts that they were stealing from us, WEMEMBERS OF SCCOA did NOTHING about it. Pity on us for allowing them to continue. Maybe if AME members and SCCOA members brought forth a lawsuit against both our union officials maybe then we would get satisfaction and some of our money back instead of them continually raising our dues.

Just a thought, however if you are interested contact me at the jail. SOrry cant give my name for fear of reprisals however some of you DO know who I am.
I am hopeful I will hear from you soon.
C/O Well, you know me.

[OMG WTF]

This Union is a joke! The way they are spending our dues money the Union will be broke in a year! Do they plan on RAISING DUES? Nice idea with no raises!!:">
This group sux. I know alot of people who voted for them " for a Change". They are soooo sorry now. Junkets to Albany, new cars and trucks etc... Have you seen the latest so called AME Voice? Are this idiots for real? I hear they named Josephine Passantino the new 4th VP; what a great idea. All they need to do now is get her above a 5th grade education. Then she'll be the smartest 1 up there.
I think Blue Collar will decertify if this continues. If they do then Ann Abel can write another brilliant article about how its great to have a "Spin-Off" Union like the Probation Officers. The Park PD is up and thenwho kmows? Don't they understand breaking up the union into little pieces benefits the county. I am starting to think that is the idea, and that Cheryl(Lets go to happy hour) Felice has cut a deal with Levy and Schaefer to scerw us all. I can't wait to dump this bunch.

OMG! Do You see the date of this post?! This could have been written yesterday. It's the same ole same old If this team is so horrible and I believe they are, what the hell are they still doing in power?! GET THEM OUT ALREADY! What the hell is the matter with us.

[Unregisteredme2]

OMG! Do You see the date of this post?! This could have been written yesterday. It's the same ole same old If this team is so horrible and I believe they are, what the hell are they still doing in power?! GET THEM OUT ALREADY! What the hell is the matter with us.

Dont vote for Felice. We are voting for Lydia.

[Unregistered123456]

Dont vote for Felice. We are voting for Lydia.

We're not or Cheryl either.

[Unregisteredusay]

We're not or Cheryl either.

Well im just glad your voting and i hope people dont vote for cheryl but there are many supporters she has. I just hope other people arent as naive as you are to not vote for lydia, for whatever reason and the vote gets split then we will be stuck with cheryl for another three years. Everyone NEEDS to get on the same page. None of this bullsh*t would of ever happened if we could get the entire membership to at least show a little interest in THEIR UNION.

[Unregisteredwhy]

We're not or Cheryl either.

Your foolish. Felice will get back in. Sarno cant win.

[The Sarno/McGregor Team]

We have again updated our blog site. We welcome you to visit us at www.jjsarno.blogspot.com and thank you for your continued support.

[Huh??]

We have again updated our blog site. We welcome you to visit us at www.jjsarno.blogspot.com and thank you for your continued support.

This isnt even a real website. This guy went short everywhere. except for that nice glossy mailer I got yesterday. Felice paid for that, Im sure.

[NOTJOHN LINDAORCHERYL]

This isnt even a real website. This guy went short everywhere. except for that nice glossy mailer I got yesterday. Felice paid for that, Im sure.

What is all this crap about Felice paying for John Sarno? Are you out of your mind!? Cheryl spending money on anyone other than Cheryl? Get off it! You don't even know what you are talking about. John is running because he is dedicated to making a difference. He is for the members. He is the best choice! Cheryl is selfserving and a thief and Lydia is invisible and weak even when she speaks she doesnt' do it with conviction, she is so unsure of herself its scary; Probably why she didn't speak up at the rally. If that wasn't the time to show your metle, I don't know what was, and, SHE DIDN'T DO IT, PERIOD!
John has the commitment & capability of making a difference and that's why I, and anyone who truely wants to better the AME and make this union the best it can be, is also voting for John & Linda

[Your kidding right?]

What is all this crap about Felice paying for John Sarno? Are you out of your mind!? Cheryl spending money on anyone other than Cheryl? Get off it! You don't even know what you are talking about. John is running because he is dedicated to making a difference. He is for the members. He is the best choice! Cheryl is selfserving and a thief and Lydia is invisible and weak even when she speaks she doesnt' do it with conviction, she is so unsure of herself its scary; Probably why she didn't speak up at the rally. If that wasn't the time to show your metle, I don't know what was, and, SHE DIDN'T DO IT, PERIOD!
John has the commitment & capability of making a difference and that's why I, and anyone who truely wants to better the AME and make this union the best it can be, is also voting for John & Linda

Sarno speaks with conviction? When was this?
LOL

[Unregisteredmoneybags!]

Dear Members,

I thought that this would be a good time to let everyone know that I have no problem spending your money without any thought or concern to how you would feel. I am so proud that I can spend your money frivolously and not even tell you about it. It does not matter that the AME Voice is supposed to be a quaterly news letter informing you of what is happening in your union, instead I changed it to spread my propaganda around the county. C'mon why do you think you have had so many of them in the last four months. To keep you informed? Not a chance, it is so I can show you who really controls this union and its money. I wanted to let you know that this latest healthcare edition has cost the union(i mean cost you) over $35,000. Can you guess how much it has cost you this year alone. ALOT! But no need to worry about it anymore cause if I win this election I am going to step down and let my VP farrel take over and continue my mission of screwing you as much as possible without you noticing. So everyone continue doing your job with less and less people and live your lives in an awarness comma so we can continue to fool you all. Dont bother to show up at meetings or call and ask questions cause im great at dancing around them. I will leave you more confused then before you asked me. Dont forget to vote for me because i am the best of leaders.

With United Purpose,
Cheryl Fleece
P.S. Vote for me or I will get you!!!!

[UnregisteredLOL]

Dear Members,

I thought that this would be a good time to let everyone know that I have no problem spending your money without any thought or concern to how you would feel. I am so proud that I can spend your money frivolously and not even tell you about it. It does not matter that the AME Voice is supposed to be a quaterly news letter informing you of what is happening in your union, instead I changed it to spread my propaganda around the county. C'mon why do you think you have had so many of them in the last four months. To keep you informed? Not a chance, it is so I can show you who really controls this union and its money. I wanted to let you know that this latest healthcare edition has cost the union(i mean cost you) over $35,000. Can you guess how much it has cost you this year alone. ALOT! But no need to worry about it anymore cause if I win this election I am going to step down and let my VP farrel take over and continue my mission of screwing you as much as possible without you noticing. So everyone continue doing your job with less and less people and live your lives in an awarness comma so we can continue to fool you all. Dont bother to show up at meetings or call and ask questions cause im great at dancing around them. I will leave you more confused then before you asked me. Dont forget to vote for me because i am the best of leaders.

With United Purpose,
Cheryl Fleece
P.S. Vote for me or I will get you!!!!

Nice one.

But you forgot the other BS line.

Know Unity, Know Strength.

[Unregistered2143]

With cheryl its more like NO UNITY, NO STRENGTH. LOL. She cares about no one exept herself. Time for a change people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Unregistered999]

I want anyone who is even thinking of voting for Cheryl and her team, to look at the first post in this thread, and notate the date. That's right 6/2/04 2004! and it's still the same rhetoric! Cheryl is still Lying Cheating and Stealing!! Do you really want 3 more years of this?! Isn't 6 years enough??!!

Vote for anyone BUT Cheryl and the ME FIRST TEAM!

[Unregistered145714]

I want anyone who is even thinking of voting for Cheryl and her team, to look at the first post in this thread, and notate the date. That's right 6/2/04 2004! and it's still the same rhetoric! Cheryl is still Lying Cheating and Stealing!! Do you really want 3 more years of this?! Isn't 6 years enough??!!

Vote for anyone BUT Cheryl and the ME FIRST TEAM!

Cheryl has got to go so we have to make sure people show up at that bod meeting where they wll take the vote so we can show them that we want a revote for cheryk cheating and grossly abusing our money. AND dont forget they took our voice and now we havethe chance to let our voice be heard for once.You have to make sure that we hold these Board of Directors to the fire and have them vote the way the members want not the way they feel. Stop voting for your conscious and vote the way the members want you to vote. Right Frank. There is still hope peple for us to take OUR voice back and have the Exec do what the members want for a change. I cant believe that then didnt let us have a vote on the lag payroll whatever cheryl said on her campaign. I looked for the section in the C+Bs that she used to her advantage and that is not the way my labor lawyer says it should of gone. Once again we have our union president bending the rules to suit her own needs. She has never followed the C+Bs once and all of a sudden now she says she cant go against them what a crook. This feces team is no good and they must leave and i would love to be ther when they do. If the judicial board didnt have sufficient evidence then the would not be calling for a new election. Think about it,it must have been somthing really serious for them to come to that determination. It was stong enough to prove that cheryl did some major things wrong and i cant believe that she is even still in office. I would also like to see how she is going to get around this one cause she probably will. Mark my words the board of director will turn it down cause most of them are her pets who will do anything for her as long as they get somthing out of it. Be carful BOD cause my labor lawyer said you could be held just as responsibile. Do the right thing for once. The members will be there to see how your gonna vote so start to do your howework and there is more then enough evidence to support these finding. If there is any BOD that vote without voting on the facts sont worry we are gonna make sure you dont get elected ever again. We will be at your job sites telling everyone you did not do the right thing and get as many people to run against you . SHAME ON CHERYL AND SHAME ON LEVY.THEY WORK HAND IN HAND WITH EACH OTHER.SHE KNOWS HOW AND WHEN TO SCREW US. FUNNY HOW FAST THAT LAG PAY CAME UP SO QUICK THAT IT WOULD OF HAD TO OF BEEN WORKED OUT MUCH SOONER THEN WHEN THE ELECTION WAS OVER. SHE LIED TO US AGAIN. LEVY SAID HISELF( I PUT MYSELF INTO HER SHOES I WOULDNT WANT TO RAISE TAXES DURING AN ELECTON) WHICH MEANS SHE KNEW, JUST DIDNT WANT TO SAY ANYTHING TILL AFTER THE ELECTION. THAT IS HOW MUCH SHE CARES ABOUT THE MEMBERS. SHE DONT, JUST HERSELF. ITS TIME TO PUT SOMEONE THER WHO WILL FINALLY THINK ABOUT THE MEMBERS FOR ONCE. IF WE GET THIS VOTE FOLKS THEN WE CANT MAKE THE SAME MISSTAKES THAT WE JUST DID VOT FOR THE SLATES, THE WHOLE SLATE. eVEN IF THERE WILL BE ALL OF THE CANIDATES MAKE SURE WHO EVER YOU VOTE FOR PRESIDENT YOU VOTE FOR THE REST OF THE MEMBERS FIRST TEAM.

p.s.THE FELICE/FARREL TEAM CHEATED AND JUST ONE BY A SMALL SMALL AMOUNT. THEY WON BY A HAIR. THIS MEMBERSHIP IS SO SPLIT ITS NOT FUNNY. i VOTED FOR AN INDEPENDENT LAST TIME BUT THIS TIME I WILL GO WITH THE MEMBERS FIRST TEAM. IF WE GET THIS NEW ELECTION GUYS WE CANT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES

[Unregistered999]

Cheryl has got to go so we have to make sure people show up at that bod meeting where they wll take the vote so we can show them that we want a revote for cheryk cheating and grossly abusing our money. AND dont forget they took our voice and now we havethe chance to let our voice be heard for once.You have to make sure that we hold these Board of Directors to the fire and have them vote the way the members want not the way they feel. Stop voting for your conscious and vote the way the members want you to vote. Right Frank. There is still hope peple for us to take OUR voice back and have the Exec do what the members want for a change. I cant believe that then didnt let us have a vote on the lag payroll whatever cheryl said on her campaign. I looked for the section in the C+Bs that she used to her advantage and that is not the way my labor lawyer says it should of gone. Once again we have our union president bending the rules to suit her own needs. She has never followed the C+Bs once and all of a sudden now she says she cant go against them what a crook. This feces team is no good and they must leave and i would love to be ther when they do. If the judicial board didnt have sufficient evidence then the would not be calling for a new election. Think about it,it must have been somthing really serious for them to come to that determination. It was stong enough to prove that cheryl did some major things wrong and i cant believe that she is even still in office. I would also like to see how she is going to get around this one cause she probably will. Mark my words the board of director will turn it down cause most of them are her pets who will do anything for her as long as they get somthing out of it. Be carful BOD cause my labor lawyer said you could be held just as responsibile. Do the right thing for once. The members will be there to see how your gonna vote so start to do your howework and there is more then enough evidence to support these finding. If there is any BOD that vote without voting on the facts sont worry we are gonna make sure you dont get elected ever again. We will be at your job sites telling everyone you did not do the right thing and get as many people to run against you . SHAME ON CHERYL AND SHAME ON LEVY.THEY WORK HAND IN HAND WITH EACH OTHER.SHE KNOWS HOW AND WHEN TO SCREW US. FUNNY HOW FAST THAT LAG PAY CAME UP SO QUICK THAT IT WOULD OF HAD TO OF BEEN WORKED OUT MUCH SOONER THEN WHEN THE ELECTION WAS OVER. SHE LIED TO US AGAIN. LEVY SAID HISELF( I PUT MYSELF INTO HER SHOES I WOULDNT WANT TO RAISE TAXES DURING AN ELECTON) WHICH MEANS SHE KNEW, JUST DIDNT WANT TO SAY ANYTHING TILL AFTER THE ELECTION. THAT IS HOW MUCH SHE CARES ABOUT THE MEMBERS. SHE DONT, JUST HERSELF. ITS TIME TO PUT SOMEONE THER WHO WILL FINALLY THINK ABOUT THE MEMBERS FOR ONCE. IF WE GET THIS VOTE FOLKS THEN WE CANT MAKE THE SAME MISSTAKES THAT WE JUST DID VOT FOR THE SLATES, THE WHOLE SLATE. eVEN IF THERE WILL BE ALL OF THE CANIDATES MAKE SURE WHO EVER YOU VOTE FOR PRESIDENT YOU VOTE FOR THE REST OF THE MEMBERS FIRST TEAM.

p.s.THE FELICE/FARREL TEAM CHEATED AND JUST ONE BY A SMALL SMALL AMOUNT. THEY WON BY A HAIR. THIS MEMBERSHIP IS SO SPLIT ITS NOT FUNNY. i VOTED FOR AN INDEPENDENT LAST TIME BUT THIS TIME I WILL GO WITH THE MEMBERS FIRST TEAM. IF WE GET THIS NEW ELECTION GUYS WE CANT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES

I voted for an independant myself. I realize, that is impossible to do now as the numbers that came in, tipped the scale in favor of cheryl Since I don't want her in, more than I don't want Lydia, I will vote for the lesser of two evils. I will be voting for Lydia and the entire Members first slate. I hope I get the chance. BOD do the right thing don't aid and abet a crook like cheryl When she leaves for greener pastures, there will be no favors from Dan, so you might as well do the right thing now. Let her resign and go the job thats waiting for her in islip town BOD, this time the fate of the AME members is in your hands, make it count go by the rules and let's have a revote