Nassau Sheriff

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what is the difference between a Jail Sheriff and a Street sheriff in nassau. A few days ago a white car with sheriffs came on my block and went to a house two doors down from me. I have a friend that works as a sheriff at the jail. I asked these guys if they knew my friend and one of them snapped and said "NO! we are Deputies not hacks i am a cop and I quote "Not a loser CO"
I did notice that these guys had black uniforms and my friend has grey. Why would members of the same Dept be indiffrent to each other. Anyway whats the difference between jail and steet. And whats a hack?

In New York State deputies always wear black uniforms and correction officers wear gray uniforms. Deputy Sheriffs have full police officers powers and police functions in addition to civil process, evictions, etc and the correction officers have peace officer powers.

A hack is someone who gets promoted, gets a job or a special status due to his/her political friends, family status, etc

Animosty is stupid and exists in NY due to us having seperate deputy sheriff and correction officer where as is most places they just have deputy sheriffs and one can freely transfer from patrol to the jail or from court to marine unit, etc.

[He's Wrong !]

In New York State most Deputies wear black uniforms and most correction officers wear gray uniforms. Deputy Sheriffs are Police Officers and perform police functions in addition to civil process, evictions, etc and the Corrections Officers have Peace Officer status when on duty.

A hack is a common slang term for a Jail Guard in the 40's thru the seventies. Since that time the term has lapsed and with the professionalization of the job title it is no longer used except by dinosaurs.

The animosity exists not only in that job, but in many counties throughout the country for just the reason you stated in your questions; Ie: Calling Corrections Officers Jail Sheriff's - there is no such thing, but to bolster thr own job status many Corrections Officers call themselves "Sheriff's" when telling someone what they do for a living. In many parts of the country where civil service law doesn't dictate who is who and who gets hired to a particular job. People are hired as Deputy Sheriff's and begin thr career in the Jails as a "Detention Deputy", then after additional testing, or a powerful uncle somewhere, these detention deputies can move to the road patrol and attend further training necessary to do Police work. In most counties where civil service laws are in effect to defeat this nepotism, there are two seperate and disticnt civil service tests required for the two seperate positions. One for corrections officer and one for deputy sheriff. The C/O's go to a 12 week State mandated course at a peace officer academy, the deputies go to a 29 week police officer academy. I hope that answered your inquiries in full, and not in part as the gentleman before me had done.

Nassau County Correction Officers have Peace Officer status on AND off duty. They can make arrests in thr geographical area of employment ( Nassau County) for anything, and outside of Nassau County for fellonies only.

Not bashing the Deps in Nassau, but if anyone was to be called a (political) hack they are.


Just like the Sheriff says "stay focused" :idea: :idea: :idea:

[IN THE MEADOW]

In New York State deputies always wear black uniforms and correction officers wear gray uniforms. Deputy Sheriffs have full police officers powers and police functions in addition to civil process, evictions, etc and the correction officers have peace officer powers.

A hack is someone who gets promoted, gets a job or a special status due to his/her political friends, family status, etc

Animosty is stupid and exists in NY due to us having seperate deputy sheriff and correction officer where as is most places they just have deputy sheriffs and one can freely transfer from patrol to the jail or from court to marine unit, etc.

SO WHEN ARE WE GETTING THE MARINE UNIT?????

The real "hacks" ( political ) are the cooks/maintenance staff.

In New York State deputies always wear black uniforms and correction officers wear gray uniforms. Deputy Sheriffs have full police officers powers and police functions in addition to civil process, evictions, etc and the correction officers have peace officer powers.

A hack is someone who gets promoted, gets a job or a special status due to his/her political friends, family status, etc

Animosty is stupid and exists in NY due to us having seperate deputy sheriff and correction officer where as is most places they just have deputy sheriffs and one can freely transfer from patrol to the jail or from court to marine unit, etc.

SO WHEN ARE WE GETTING THE MARINE UNIT?????they are starting a marine unit when the water in the mote backs up enough that we have to start to ferry people across.

sounds like jeff was here

NCSD does not need a Marine Unit or any on civil related function for that matter.

Suffolk County is very different and dont forget, SCPD only patrols half the county so therefore someone needs to help out the End town/village forces.

NCSD does not need a Marine Unit or any on civil related function for that matter.

Suffolk County is very different and dont forget, SCPD only patrols half the county so therefore someone needs to help out the End town/village forces.

And that someone is NOT the suffolk county deputies...stick to bng a mobile jail guard. But you can still blow smoke and tell everyone at your family barbeque about the many people you have in task forces, scuba team, bike patrols or any other nonsense that doesn't actually exist.

And that someone is NOT the suffolk county deputies...stick to bng a mobile jail guard. But you can still blow smoke and tell everyone at your family barbeque about the many people you have in task forces, scuba team, bike patrols or any other nonsense that doesn't actually exist.

SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE - KNOW NOTHING, DO NOTHING, MORON !

The SCSD has a marine unit which is documented in most of the local News media and newspapers recently with rescues etc they have made. They have a dive team which was also documented recently during thr work. The Deputies in Suffolk DO have operatives on numerous task forces. AND - Yes, they recently graduated six members of the Sheriff's Offcie - including 01 Corrections Officer as well.

Go onto any search engine and search:
(Suffolk Sheriff's Office Marine + Rescue)

SO WHO'S BLOWING SMOKE WHERE ?

The six graduates mentioned above graduated from the Bike School, in the formation of a bike patrol unit that is ongoing.

Sorry I left that out, when I come across people trying to spread disinformation for thr own purposes it pisses me off. Especially when you know the guy doesn't have an F*CKIN clue as to what is going on.

Get off the VITO FATNELLO KOOL - AID KID - it's rotting your brain and your teeth !

this is the Nassau Sheriff thread not the ffolk Sheriff thread

[NCCC]

so are those Sheriffs in nassau with the buses and cars going to court and medcial center are they deputies or jail guards?

Correction Officers

[PEGLEGS]

Police patrol is the union work of the Nassau PBA and not for the Sheriff

Sorry I left that out, when I come across people trying to spread disinformation for thr own purposes it pisses me off. Especially when you know the guy doesn't have an F*CKIN clue as to what is going on.

Whaaaa!!!! Go hop on your bike and do an eviction Beavis...you're not getting a patrol function.

They already have a semi permanent patrol function on the End ... who do you think takes care of the calls Hampton or Riverhead cant respond to due to limited manpower?

They already have a semi permanent patrol function on the End ... who do you think takes care of the calls Hampton or Riverhead cant respond to due to limited manpower?



Semi permanent patrol function?????What the hell does that mean Beavis?Are you sure you can handle somethimg SEMI-PERMANENT?

You guys are clowns. You have already demonstrated that buy HELPING to hurt other Law Enforcement unions. Go away please.

They already have a semi permanent patrol function on the End ... who do you think takes care of the calls Hampton or Riverhead cant respond to due to limited manpower?


This may be the most ridiculous post i have ever read..WTF is a semi permanent patrol??? Stop your B.S. about deputies answering calls on the end...making up nonsense about a patrol function only makes you sound like a buffy wanna-be. Be proud of your function as a deputy and be done with it!!

so are those Sheriffs in nassau with the buses and cars going to court and medcial center are they deputies or jail guards?

Those are Correction Officers. They also transport inmates to prisons upstate.

what is the difference between a Jail Sheriff and a Street sheriff in nassau. A few days ago a white car with sheriffs came on my block and went to a house two doors down from me. I have a friend that works as a sheriff at the jail. I asked these guys if they knew my friend and one of them snapped and said "NO! we are Deputies not hacks i am a cop and I quote "Not a loser CO"
I did notice that these guys had black uniforms and my friend has grey. Why would members of the same Dept be indiffrent to each other. Anyway whats the difference between jail and steet. And whats a hack?

The Nassau County Sheriffs Dept basically has 2 divisions :
1) Division of Corrections - which has the Correction Officers in the grey uniforms. Peace Officer status with authority to make arrests. 14 week academy.
2) Deputy Sheriffs - They where the black uniforms. Full police status. They serve orders of protection, warrants, evictions..etc They are in the same academy as the Nassau Police Recruits.
Not sure why that Deputy made the remark about Correction Officers bng loser hacks, but it may be because he makes alot less money then they do. The deputy does have better hours though, M-F 8am-5pm.....maybe that's why he is cocky.

[Jonny Dep]

Here are the facts:

Nassau Deps are Police Officers.
They do wear black uniforms.
They work day tours. No weekends no holidays.
They do not transport prisoners from the jail to court.
Thr duties include issuing VTL's, szing property, conducting evictions, serving domestic violence orders, and executing all types of warrants.
They DO have a 20 year retirement with additional 1/60th's just like the Police Department.
The top base pay for a Dep in 2006 is $83,000.

It is the best job in Nassau County and the hardest to get bng that they only hire 10 or so guys every five to seven years.

Maybe a CO can post a few facts about the corrections job so people can be educated!

[Johnny CO]

Here are a few facts about Nassau Correction Officers:

Provide care,custody,and control for the areas offenders ( I say areas because we alternate house Suffolk,Rikers, and Federal inmates-- THR problem children)

Work rotating shifts and work holidays

Current starting salary is $25,000.00

Current top pay is $72,925.00 at 11 years to top pay under the expired contract ending 12/31/2004

Wear grey uniforms

Transport inmates to court and other correctional facilities

Investigate crimes committed by inmates/visitors in the correctional center

[Johnny CO]

Also there is a 25 year retirement

There is no binding arbitration unlike all the other Law Enforcement unions from Rockland County down including Suffolk County which just recved it.

Nassau Deputy's DO NOT have a 20 Year ret. Thay have it on paper, but they don't meet all the qualifications, so they are not able to take part in it. The Bill was signed off in Albany, but they have to meet certin requirments, The main one is dealing with felons, since evictions and family court are not felony's. they are out of luck.

[curious gomez]

then how many yrs is the ret. for a nassau dep if he/she doesnt meet the req??

[Jonny dep]

Nassau Deputy's DO NOT have a 20 Year ret. Thay have it on paper, but they don't meet all the qualifications, so they are not able to take part in it. The Bill was signed off in Albany, but they have to meet certin requirments, The main one is dealing with felons, since evictions and family court are not felony's. they are out of luck.

"Luck" has nothing to do with it. Get your info right before you post. The retirement only requires that the Deps do at l 50 percent criminal law enforcement work. There is nothing in the bill that talks about felonies. Well over 50 percent of Nassau Deps work is spent enforcing criminal law (crime prevention, protecting life and property, ect.). Don't believe the haters that want the pay and retirement that the Deps enjoy! Take the test and you can be hated too!!!

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[Dinosaur Hack]

50 percent of Deps time is most definitely NOT spent enforcing "criminal law". Serving family court warrants and throwing old ladies out of thr apartments doesnt qualify for "criminal enforcement" in any handbook. The assertion that crime prevention and writing speeding tickets (a task the pba loves) is just plain unfounded. The Sheriff of Nassau County refused to sign off on the deps 20 yr bill because he would be falsifying an official document is all the proof anyone needs to show that at l 50% of a deps time is not spent dealing with felonious criminals. Correction Officers on the other hand deal with felonious criminal 150% of the time. And PS Correction Officers dont refer to themselves as Sheriff's or Deputy's, not unless they want to appear ignorant.

50 percent of Deps time is most definitely NOT spent enforcing "criminal law". Serving family court warrants and throwing old ladies out of thr apartments doesnt qualify for "criminal enforcement" in any handbook. The assertion that crime prevention and writing speeding tickets (a task the pba loves) is just plain unfounded. The Sheriff of Nassau County refused to sign off on the deps 20 yr bill because he would be falsifying an official document is all the proof anyone needs to show that at l 50% of a deps time is not spent dealing with felonious criminals. Correction Officers on the other hand deal with felonious criminal 150% of the time. And PS Correction Officers dont refer to themselves as Sheriff's or Deputy's, not unless they want to appear ignorant.

A few questions Mr dinosaur hack-
1) How would you break down that 150% of your workday in the jail?
2) Where do people charged with misdemeanors fall in that equation, since you stated "felonious criminals" make up 150% of your day? Does make you go beyond 150%?
3) "at l 50% of a deps time is not spent dealing with felonious criminals." I would love you hear your thoughts on what exactly we are dealing with- since corrections officers and deputies work for the same dept.
4)"Serving family court warrants and throwing old ladies out of thr apartments doesnt qualify for "criminal enforcement" in any handbook."...What handbook should i refer to? I am familiar with the NYS penal law, CPl, NYS Vehicle and traffic law-not sure about the almighty handbook of which you speaK.

When did evictions and warrants become police work? Thats CIVIL PROCESS not criminal work.

The only places in the state where the sheriffs have actual police functions is anywhere north of Westchester.

When did evictions and warrants become police work? Thats CIVIL PROCESS not criminal work.
A warrant is civil process not criminal work? What is criminal work? The work of a criminal?
Hey butthead, guess whats the only type of arrest a CIVILIAN cannot make?
A WARRANT.

[B.S. in Corrections]

2) Where do people charged with misdemeanors fall in that equation, since you stated "felonious criminals" make up 150% of your day? Does make you go beyond 150%?
3) "at l 50% of a deps time is not spent dealing with felonious criminals." I would love you hear your thoughts on what exactly we are dealing with- since corrections officers and deputies work for the same dept.

Can you please clear up this babbling, illiterate nonsense for a non Nassau Dep. I hope this isn't how you fill out your reports at work...sheesh!!!

[B.S. in Corrections]

I would love you hear your thoughts on what exactly we are dealing with- since corrections officers and deputies work for the same dept.

You are a MORON! Since you just asked this question ther you're in the academy or you're just some punk buff. Don't get me wrong, you Deps deal with pieces of shit too, but no where near on the same level. Same department, two completely different jobs!!

I would love you hear your thoughts on what exactly we are dealing with- since corrections officers and deputies work for the same dept.

You are a MORON! Since you just asked this question ther you're in the academy or you're just some punk buff. Don't get me wrong, you Deps deal with pieces of shit too, but no where near on the same level. Same department, two completely different jobs!!


I thought our jobs were interchangeable and we are doing corrections work-that's been your position for years now you want to change your story. i guess YOU'RE THE MORON!!![/b]

When did evictions and warrants become police work? Thats CIVIL PROCESS not criminal work.
A warrant is civil process not criminal work? What is criminal work? The work of a criminal?
Hey butthead, guess whats the only type of arrest a CIVILIAN cannot make?
A WARRANT.lol

[Rubber]

Go hit the punch you rubber hack!

key goes to the right...........

[BA]

I thought our jobs were interchangeable and we are doing corrections work-that's been your position for years now you want to change your story. i guess YOU'RE THE MORON!!!

You'd like to think that...thats your problem, you think its interchangeable and you stick your nose where it don't belong. We have different roles and completely different jobs, so stick with what your doing and "Know your role!!!"

I thought our jobs were interchangeable and we are doing corrections work-that's been your position for years now you want to change your story. i guess YOU'RE THE MORON!!!

You'd like to think that...thats your problem, you think its interchangeable and you stick your nose where it don't belong. We have different roles and completely different jobs, so stick with what your doing and "Know your role!!!"

Drinking and posting is prohibited on this site...please come back when you are not drooling on your keyboard

[BA]

Drinking and posting is prohibited on this site...please come back when you are not drooling on your keyboard

Its not so much the heat it's the stupidity!! :roll:

Where do the deps work out of ? Is it true they all have take home cars?

Are they hiring?




Here are the facts:

Nassau Deps are Police Officers.
They do wear black uniforms.
They work day tours. No weekends no holidays.
They do not transport prisoners from the jail to court.
Thr duties include issuing VTL's, szing property, conducting evictions, serving domestic violence orders, and executing all types of warrants.
They DO have a 20 year retirement with additional 1/60th's just like the Police Department.
The top base pay for a Dep in 2006 is $83,000.

It is the best job in Nassau County and the hardest to get bng that they only hire 10 or so guys every five to seven years.

Maybe a CO can post a few facts about the corrections job so people can be educated!

Heres a reply; if your not politically connected stay away from the nc dep job. If you don't intend on shoving your nose up politico's asses you'll never get a promotion. Its the best kept political secret on long island. Whether republicans or democrats are running the county, it doesn't matter. Just keep padding the parties pockets and cleaning the brown off your nose and you'll be a fine Dep. IV.

Heres a reply; if your not politically connected stay away from the nc dep job. If you don't intend on shoving your nose up politico's asses you'll never get a promotion. Its the best kept political secret on long island. Whether republicans or democrats are running the county, it doesn't matter. Just keep padding the parties pockets and cleaning the brown off your nose and you'll be a fine Dep. IV.

Another hack loooser upset that the deps dont need a promotion or overtime to make $85,000 a year!! Before you rip others you had better check your own house!

[BA]

Another hack loooser upset that the deps dont need a promotion or overtime to make $85,000 a year!!

Im almost there already.. :lol:

[bit o' advice]

Heres a reply; if your not politically connected stay away from the nc dep job. If you don't intend on shoving your nose up politico's asses you'll never get a promotion. Its the best kept political secret on long island. Whether republicans or democrats are running the county, it doesn't matter. Just keep padding the parties pockets and cleaning the brown off your nose and you'll be a fine Dep. IV.

Another hack loooser upset that the deps dont need a promotion or overtime to make $85,000 a year!! Before you rip others you had better check your own house!i wouldnt advertise that you make 85 grand a yr without o.t. the public tends to frown upon the fact that they have to work 2 jobs to make ends meet, and you evict old ladies who dont pay thr rent for 85 grand a yr.

lets let the public know right now. 85,000/yr is for a dep I. Dep. II is $94,000/ yr Dep III is $107,000/yr. and dep. IV is a 120,000.. Now the question is how many Dep. I's are there? ( five) How many Dep II, III , IV are there ( Forty). The money the taxpayers are laying out to to do evictions is astronomical. Maybe, Newsday should examine this in detail. The fun starts.

How many Dep I's are there ( five) How many DEP II, III and IV 's are there? ( forty) How much are the taxpayers bng ripped off at thr salaries? NEWSDAY, HERES AN EXPOSE FOR YOU.

Hey deps where are you? the last post woke you up to reality. Bragging about how much money you make. Boy, I hope the press reads these forums. Whats a Dep III make? How many Dep III's are there? What exactly does a Dep III do? Better yet, at that salary , how many people does he supervise? Come on blowhards answer me. Let the whole county here it.

No wake up here. We just love our jobs and don't need to cry on this site every minute. Believe it or not when you are happy you don't feel the urgency to get on the web and bash people. WE do check in here at times to "correct" folks like you who are haters. The titles you speak of I, II, III ect. were changed nearly ten years ago. Now we have Sgt, Lt, Capt ect. As for the numbers there are approximately 30 entry level Deps, and 12 bosses. Some of the twelve are leftovers from the I, II, III days and will soon be retired. As for our pay your numbers are not accurate, except for the entry level, and we are proud of and deserve what we earn for protecting the lives and property of Nassau County citizens. Anything you may add can be chalked up to jealosy. Sorry no story here. Again, get your own house in order and try to get your boys a raise.

Whats the breakdown of your bosses?

Whats the breakdown of your bosses?


Deps Rule, CO's Drool :lol:

Do you people have any f_cking idea how stupid you look going back and forth with this bullsh|t?

Just quit the job or stfu already.

You obviously do not have the testicular fortitude to do this in person, but please stop making the rest of us look as pathetic as you do.

All I asked was whats the breakdown of the bosses? inquiring minds want to know.

[pop]

The deps will never make as much as COs our overtime is always of the hook. "in confusion there is profit."

The deps will never make as much as COs our overtime is always of the hook. "in confusion there is profit."Ahhhhhh good old capt.waters.

Never compare base salary to working extra time when you should be home to compensate for the smaller paycheck. Not a good argument. Deps are a grade higher, that's the only argument worth speaking of if this silly debate must continue.

Do the Deps get a lot of OT? Do they plan on hiring more or expanding the size of the department

They should fire all the deps and give the job to the real cops!!! Nassua County Police Dept., the deps have a job that can be replaced by any Police Officer out there.

Do you have a PBA or sheriffs association?
Are they hiring?

Maybe the Sheriff Deputies can handle the duties of the Nassau County ASCPA enforcement unit and allow the Nassau PBA to do a man's job right.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[krispy kreame]

don't blame us copper, because you cannot get your freebie here no more. It amazes me how arrogany a 100grand slary gets you. I never seen more self center overpaid assholes in my life

ive worked at the jail as a co for well over 20 yrs, ive dealt with a lot of deps over these years, you guys would never make it on our job, dont go putting us down unless you come and spend the time in our shoes dealing with real criminals day in and day out i would like to see how many fel arrests you guys make in a year, leave the police work to the police, go back to evicting people down on thier luck

Hey numb nuts in case you have not noticed many of us deps did walk in your shoes. Several of us were hacks and ran away from that place as fast as possible along with the folks that went to the NCPD, NYPD, court officers, DMV workers, sanitation and every other job that dosn't destroy a persons good nature. It's a thankless job surrounded by miserable people (c/o's and inmates). So don't go telling people what to do or pretend you know the first thing about bng a dep when all you know about the world is what your mama told you and what you see behind the walls. If you had any balls at all you would have left that job years ago for a better life in ANY OTHER line of work. Your job sucks and you can bet that the deps don't want to do it...we know what life is like on the outside and it is good! You should have tried it while you were young and not so damaged!

[been there done that]

Sounds to me like CSEA Jerry is trying to start something again on this post thats been dead for a couple of months.
Gee Jerry whats bothering you??