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SUFFOLK COUNTY
Cop accused of menacing girlfriend
A Suffolk County police officer was accused Friday of menacing his girlfriend, a misdemeanor, a spokesman for the department said.
William Boyd, 26, a patrol officer in the Fifth Precinct who has been on the force since September, was issued a criminal summons ordering him to appear in court on a future date, said Tim Motz.
Boyd is accused of threatening his girlfriend in a confrontation about 10 days ago, Motz said. The victim filed the complaint on Thursday. Motz said the department is also investigating the possibility that the officer also choked the victim.
Boyd has been assigned to limited duty pending the outcome of the investigation. He could not be reached for comment.
SUFFOLK COUNTY
Cop accused of menacing girlfriend
A Suffolk County police officer was accused Friday of menacing his girlfriend, a misdemeanor, a spokesman for the department said.
William Boyd, 26, a patrol officer in the Fifth Precinct who has been on the force since September, was issued a criminal summons ordering him to appear in court on a future date, said Tim Motz.
Boyd is accused of threatening his girlfriend in a confrontation about 10 days ago, Motz said. The victim filed the complaint on Thursday. Motz said the department is also investigating the possibility that the officer also choked the victim.
Boyd has been assigned to limited duty pending the outcome of the investigation. He could not be reached for comment.
If he did this hes gone he wasnt even out of the academy 10 days ago.
I'm shocked that newsday didnt devote at least 4-6 pages on this, I guess it was released after the paper been cut already, No doubt Dormer the performer will be on the afternonn addition cutting down the dept again.
Guest PBA 123
04-08-2006, 12:20 PM
What a good idea The Department had too Crucify these guys. Now a Cop can not get into an argument with his girlfriend or God forbid, break up with her against her will. She can run and file charges. Will the Department follow up on false allegations? Never have in the past, prob, never will in the future.
Guilty until proven innocent, is the new status quo. Public humiliation for the COP. Guilty or innocent.
More like the NYPD everyday. Dormer is doing such a good job. You know I actually liked the guy when he started. I know, please don't start with the "I told YOU SO", I have regretted my my first reaction fro a while now.
How come she waited so long to report the incident? Part of the physical menace has to be the imminent fear of SPI or PI. This just sounds a bit far-fetched. Let this be a lesson to all the single men and women on the job, choose your boyfriends and girlfriends carefully. A little argument with an emotionally unstable person can lead to allegations that can ruin your career. Innocent until proven guilty!!!!!
GUEST770
04-08-2006, 03:53 PM
There are a lot of NYPD guys in SCPD, just ask them for a preview of things to come.
These kinds of allegations go on all the time in any police department. The difference now is that they are handing it out to the newspapers.
This guy, if innocent, will have his guns taken away if they decide to keep him in the job. He will probably lose it for a year, or until they have the balls to give them back.
Let me see: they now did two guys for harassing gals. they did two for insurance fraud. and they did one guy for burgs. The latter seems not to have been investigated by IAB, but was investigated by the neighbor of the felonious informent.. That guy is from the DA office. Of course he is above reproach because he is one of 'them'. And who knows how many free meals he has arranged for those that could help him in his meteortic career.
Wrong this guy is gone, he was hired in sept. was in the academy ten days ago, he is still on probation. assuming he did it of course.
Wrong, the paper got it wrong. This guy is not from the new class of recruits. He was hired from the previous class and has been working midnights in sqd 4. I am pretty sure that his class is off probation.
He should still be on probation. He is from the last class that just graduated. But, was cut lose early because of prior time.
no early grad
04-08-2006, 06:32 PM
He should still be on probation. He is from the last class that just graduated. But, was cut lose early because of prior time.What class was that?? scpd doesnt do that the last class was off probation a while ago.
The last class that just got out. There were a few hires that came from the Suffolk Parks Police. They were let out early because they had already been through the Suffolk Academy. He was one of those. Please don't tell me what my job does. I have one of them in my squad and he is still on probation.
whats the background tho this story? is he gettin shafted or is he a knucklehead?
Let me see: they now did two guys [SCPO's]for harassing gals. they did two[SCPO's] for insurance fraud. and they did one guy [SCPO] for burgs.
These 5 SCPD officers appear to be true professionals. :cry:
I wonder if the same SCPD psychologist examined all 5 of these officers? Seems like a pattern of sickness has infiltrated the ranks of Suffolk Blue.
Where's the Rope?
04-09-2006, 08:33 AM
Ok, somebody go find a rope and bring that lad down by that big Oak tree. Why? Didn't some scorned women say this guy did something bad - well then it must be absolutely true - so lets get that hanging under way shall we? What do you mean wait for the investigation and the trial, what trial? Son, this is the Suffolk County, (DA in bed with the bosses and the Exec.), way to do things. Take one side of the story, (the one that sells the most papers), (ie: the most free publicity), and run with it! Who cares if this poor sap has parents, siblings, friends, etc. Who cares if he's innocent you moron, we can get our names in the papers - AGAIN ! Boy these new guys need to sharpen up a bit, there game is a little on the angelic side.
Real deal:
The girlfriend already had the wedding all planned out, BIG ONE TOO ! Then lover boy cop decides to move on after hearing of the enormous wedding plans etc. Scorned girlfriend decides hey, if I can't share in this SCPO's salary - well then maybe he won't either. This stuff happens all the time - everywhere. If any of it is true, it's wrong but it seems just too pat a story, then of course it goes unrported for over two weeks? We know what type of story goes unreported for weeks, a bullsh!t story ! Good luck to the PO, this should be a HUGE red flag for all of you guys who are currently playing "the dating game". Watch out for the treachery!
GUEST770
04-09-2006, 09:14 AM
Now you guys are getting the picture. They are lynching cops so they look good in the Press.
What has been alleged lately has been going on for a long time. It happens in all police departments. Nothing unusual and nothing to be overly concerned about. Most allegations are BS. Some are not.
I had one such thing of harrassment happen to my daughter from a SCPD cop. It was very serious and disturbing. He seemed to want to hurt himself, my daughter, and others.
I liked the kid but the romance was over. My kid never told me of the letters and phone calls. I heard the phone call over the answering machine.
Due to circumstances I couldn't call the kid or his family. It went a lot deeper than that. I reached out. Found the kid had other problems. My choice was to go to the PBA and try and get help for the kid. I knew what they didn't know, or didn't want to know. The kid was in a big mess. He got arrested months later for other issues.
I felt bad for this kid and if I could have stopped it I would. I went to the PBA, not IAB, or his boss. It wasn't enough. Believe me I gave them enough to reel him in.
In this case the DA couldn't protect this kid because IA had already started the investigation before Spota got in. Otherwise, he probably would have squashed it because the kid was working for him on his campaign and the kid was connected to people who are now in the DA office. They all let the kid hang.
In a later case where they wanted to do a frame job the DA gestapo was smart enough to leave IA out of the loop although the charges were very serious. Who needed them to screw up and look over their shoulder and possibly screw up a frame job.
These recent events are nothing more than dog and pony shows to give the impression they are doing their jobs while the real crooks go free.
Something like the IRS does every year around tax time. They make arrests and publicize it to put the fear of god in you.
Good luck to the PO!
Im right with you. Right or wrong, we cops have to stick together.Gee Joh...I mean J. Friday last I checked he was innocent until proven guilty, certainly you arent going to judge him by a anon message board??
I'm sure if you were accused of Conduct unbecoming a officer for failing a dole, or after resigning accused of a crime, you would want to be considered innocent until proven otherwise? Right...or is this another avenue of hippocrity you want to travel??
J.Friday
04-09-2006, 01:36 PM
I onliest wish I had someone in blue in my corner during my tribulations...sigh, I'm just jealous.
mrkoolaid
04-09-2006, 03:54 PM
what about --sper, him and his golden hammer? what about his stalking incidents? they all disappeared
bottom line here-Is he going to loose his job?
GUEST770
04-09-2006, 11:09 PM
all you older coppers know about the boss who fancies banging prostitues when he was on patrol. Now he sits in judgment of others. It is the worst kept secret in the department. Get real and stop being hypocrites, those of you that are.
Now you guys are getting the picture. They are lynching cops so they look good in the Press.
What has been alleged lately has been going on for a long time. It happens in all police departments. Nothing unusual and nothing to be overly concerned about. Most allegations are BS. Some are not.
I had one such thing of harrassment happen to my daughter from a SCPD cop. It was very serious and disturbing. He seemed to want to hurt himself, my daughter, and others. .
And you, another moron of a man behind the badge looked the other way when a SCPD was harrassing your daughter. Nice going, asswipe. Believe the SCPD over your daughters words and her safety. On top of any other womans safety. You should be next in line for IAB to take a swing at you and bounce your stupid ass off the force. Garbage in, garbage out.
Good luck to the PO!
Im right with you. Right or wrong, we cops have to stick together.
Yeah, cover up what you can, when you can. Another one that IAB has to look into and get rid of you, too. Your next.
Now you guys are getting the picture. They are lynching cops so they look good in the Press.
What has been alleged lately has been going on for a long time. It happens in all police departments. Nothing unusual and nothing to be overly concerned about. Most allegations are BS. Some are not.
I had one such thing of harrassment happen to my daughter from a SCPD cop. It was very serious and disturbing. He seemed to want to hurt himself, my daughter, and others. .
And you, another moron of a man behind the badge looked the other way when a SCPD was harrassing your daughter. Nice going, asswipe. Believe the SCPD over your daughters words and her safety. On top of any other womans safety. You should be next in line for IAB to take a swing at you and bounce your stupid ass off the force. Garbage in, garbage out.Where does he say that you moron. Ever think unlike some edp the entire world doesnt need to know every private moment of your life? Where does it even say he is a cop, let alone a scpd? Stop looking to hang everyone go get lost in traffic.
Good luck to the PO!
Im right with you. Right or wrong, we cops have to stick together.
Yeah, cover up what you can, when you can. Another one that IAB has to look into and get rid of you, too. Your next.
How completey chatti-patti moronic are you? THis guy is a notorious anti-cop poster getting a shot in, by the why its not
your its you're, as in your spelling sucks
GUEST770
04-10-2006, 04:49 PM
Thanks for the support. I am not, or ever was a SCPD cop. I was a NYC cop. When a person has an emotional problem you don’t ignore that person and throw him to the wolves.
I tried to save this kid from himself. I went to the PBA believing they could help him. I could just as easily picked up the phone and called Internal Affairs or his commanding officer. When I went to the PBA, it was my express wish to see that no harm came to this man. I knew if someone didn’t intercede in this matter the kid was going to self destruct. And that is what he did and his friends allowed it to happen.
My inquires into his situation told me the kid was under investigation by IAB. I knew this about nine months before he crashed in flames. If I knew it how come his well connected friends in the police department didn’t know it? Of course they knew it and they did nothing to stop it so they could save their own skins with their newly acquired political patron.
They let their friend continue to incriminate himself while he was chasing an investment he made with a swindler. His friends did business with this swindler themselves, and they knew he was now an informant who was setting the trap for their friend.
How do they make up for their cowardly behavior? They go after another cop who had major differences with their friend. It is their way of showing support for their fallen friend they abandoned in his time of need.
I believe that most people can be salvaged until such time they can’t. You have an obligation not to let anyone fall off the cliff if you can save them. What these people did was watch a young man at the brink of falling off the cliff on matters of the heart, and matters of financial ruin, and pushed him off instead of reaching out and save him.
Let me tell you and i don't care if u like it or not. With rare exceptions, if i find a cop has a problem i will let him know one way or the other.
Thanks for the support. I am not, or ever was a SCPD cop. I was a NYC cop. When a person has an emotional problem you don’t ignore that person and throw him to the wolves.
I tried to save this kid from himself. I went to the PBA believing they could help him. I could just as easily picked up the phone and called Internal Affairs or his commanding officer. When I went to the PBA, it was my express wish to see that no harm came to this man. I knew if someone didn’t intercede in this matter the kid was going to self destruct. And that is what he did and his friends allowed it to happen.
My inquires into his situation told me the kid was under investigation by IAB. I knew this about nine months before he crashed in flames. If I knew it how come his well connected friends in the police department didn’t know it? Of course they knew it and they did nothing to stop it so they could save their own skins with their newly acquired political patron.
They let their friend continue to incriminate himself while he was chasing an investment he made with a swindler. His friends did business with this swindler themselves, and they knew he was now an informant who was setting the trap for their friend.
How do they make up for their cowardly behavior? They go after another cop who had major differences with their friend. It is their way of showing support for their fallen friend they abandoned in his time of need.
I believe that most people can be salvaged until such time they can’t. You have an obligation not to let anyone fall off the cliff if you can save them. What these people did was watch a young man at the brink of falling off the cliff on matters of the heart, and matters of financial ruin, and pushed him off instead of reaching out and save him.
Let me tell you and i don't care if u like it or not. With rare exceptions, if i find a cop has a problem i will let him know one way or the other.
Practice what you preach for everybody. Not just the chosen few.
Thanks for the support. I am not, or ever was a SCPD cop. I was a NYC cop. When a person has an emotional problem you don’t ignore that person and throw him to the wolves.
I tried to save this kid from himself. I went to the PBA believing they could help him. I could just as easily picked up the phone and called Internal Affairs or his commanding officer. When I went to the PBA, it was my express wish to see that no harm came to this man. I knew if someone didn’t intercede in this matter the kid was going to self destruct. And that is what he did and his friends allowed it to happen.
My inquires into his situation told me the kid was under investigation by IAB. I knew this about nine months before he crashed in flames. If I knew it how come his well connected friends in the police department didn’t know it? Of course they knew it and they did nothing to stop it so they could save their own skins with their newly acquired political patron.
They let their friend continue to incriminate himself while he was chasing an investment he made with a swindler. His friends did business with this swindler themselves, and they knew he was now an informant who was setting the trap for their friend.
How do they make up for their cowardly behavior? They go after another cop who had major differences with their friend. It is their way of showing support for their fallen friend they abandoned in his time of need.
I believe that most people can be salvaged until such time they can’t. You have an obligation not to let anyone fall off the cliff if you can save them. What these people did was watch a young man at the brink of falling off the cliff on matters of the heart, and matters of financial ruin, and pushed him off instead of reaching out and save him.
Let me tell you and i don't care if u like it or not. With rare exceptions, if i find a cop has a problem i will let him know one way or the other.
Practice what you preach for everybody. Not just the chosen few.what exactly does this mean? Other than absolutely nothing?
Thanks for the support. I am not, or ever was a SCPD cop. I was a NYC cop. When a person has an emotional problem you don’t ignore that person and throw him to the wolves.
I tried to save this kid from himself. I went to the PBA believing they could help him. I could just as easily picked up the phone and called Internal Affairs or his commanding officer. When I went to the PBA, it was my express wish to see that no harm came to this man. I knew if someone didn’t intercede in this matter the kid was going to self destruct. And that is what he did and his friends allowed it to happen.
My inquires into his situation told me the kid was under investigation by IAB. I knew this about nine months before he crashed in flames. If I knew it how come his well connected friends in the police department didn’t know it? Of course they knew it and they did nothing to stop it so they could save their own skins with their newly acquired political patron.
They let their friend continue to incriminate himself while he was chasing an investment he made with a swindler. His friends did business with this swindler themselves, and they knew he was now an informant who was setting the trap for their friend.
How do they make up for their cowardly behavior? They go after another cop who had major differences with their friend. It is their way of showing support for their fallen friend they abandoned in his time of need.
I believe that most people can be salvaged until such time they can’t. You have an obligation not to let anyone fall off the cliff if you can save them. What these people did was watch a young man at the brink of falling off the cliff on matters of the heart, and matters of financial ruin, and pushed him off instead of reaching out and save him.
Let me tell you and i don't care if u like it or not. With rare exceptions, if i find a cop has a problem i will let him know one way or the other.
Practice what you preach for everybody. Not just the chosen few.what exactly does this mean? Other than absolutely nothing?
He's on his soap box again about RM.
Thanks for the support. I am not, or ever was a SCPD cop. I was a NYC cop. When a person has an emotional problem you don’t ignore that person and throw him to the wolves.
I tried to save this kid from himself. I went to the PBA believing they could help him. I could just as easily picked up the phone and called Internal Affairs or his commanding officer. When I went to the PBA, it was my express wish to see that no harm came to this man. I knew if someone didn’t intercede in this matter the kid was going to self destruct. And that is what he did and his friends allowed it to happen.
My inquires into his situation told me the kid was under investigation by IAB. I knew this about nine months before he crashed in flames. If I knew it how come his well connected friends in the police department didn’t know it? Of course they knew it and they did nothing to stop it so they could save their own skins with their newly acquired political patron.
They let their friend continue to incriminate himself while he was chasing an investment he made with a swindler. His friends did business with this swindler themselves, and they knew he was now an informant who was setting the trap for their friend.
How do they make up for their cowardly behavior? They go after another cop who had major differences with their friend. It is their way of showing support for their fallen friend they abandoned in his time of need.
I believe that most people can be salvaged until such time they can’t. You have an obligation not to let anyone fall off the cliff if you can save them. What these people did was watch a young man at the brink of falling off the cliff on matters of the heart, and matters of financial ruin, and pushed him off instead of reaching out and save him.
Let me tell you and i don't care if u like it or not. With rare exceptions, if i find a cop has a problem i will let him know one way or the other.
Practice what you preach for everybody. Not just the chosen few.I think she/he is trying to say everyone is created equal and we must treat everyone the same. Grow up. That isnt how the world works. Bottom line the higher up the food chain you are the more breaks you get. I dont particularly feel a patrol officer is that far up the food chain, but if the poster is a nypd and has a issue with a po from another agency, he is going to treat him differently than if it was you. Bottom line.
The breaks pos get are minimal compared to the brass and suits of a dept. example the pos charged werent required to post bail or go thru the process the perps scooped up at the pcts do. But on the other hand if that was a lt or better, he'd have been demoted and forced to retire at 20 years.
Thats the real world, everyone who works in a specific field whether medicine, politics, law enforcement, legal, business, etc etc etc does FAVORS and assists others in their field. I'm certain if you have a job and you have any type of influence, you use it.
Just a quick example I had a kid who drove around and shot out a window to a m/v. I caught him in the act. It was a isolated incident or at least the 1st of many victims that night. The guy came out and was ready to choke the kid out, needless to say he was more than happy to press charges, when the kids parent showed up, it turned out the 2 guys were in the same carpentry union, they had never even met. The kid agreed to pay damages and it was squashed right there. From almost getting arrested for assault on the kid to shaking hands in less then 10 minutes. Had that been anyone else, from the bush daughters to guilianis soon they'd have been mine. Thats the real world, IT IS WHO YOU KNOW. Nothing you can do about it.
guest 3
04-11-2006, 09:16 PM
Wrong, the paper got it wrong. This guy is not from the new class of recruits. He was hired from the previous class and has been working midnights in sqd 4. I am pretty sure that his class is off probation. he was initialluy in the new class, he was fast tracked due to his prior time in suffolk park pd
Thanks for the support. I am not, or ever was a SCPD cop. I was a NYC cop. When a person has an emotional problem you don’t ignore that person and throw him to the wolves.
I tried to save this kid from himself. I went to the PBA believing they could help him. I could just as easily picked up the phone and called Internal Affairs or his commanding officer. When I went to the PBA, it was my express wish to see that no harm came to this man. I knew if someone didn’t intercede in this matter the kid was going to self destruct. And that is what he did and his friends allowed it to happen.
My inquires into his situation told me the kid was under investigation by IAB. I knew this about nine months before he crashed in flames. If I knew it how come his well connected friends in the police department didn’t know it? Of course they knew it and they did nothing to stop it so they could save their own skins with their newly acquired political patron.
They let their friend continue to incriminate himself while he was chasing an investment he made with a swindler. His friends did business with this swindler themselves, and they knew he was now an informant who was setting the trap for their friend.
How do they make up for their cowardly behavior? They go after another cop who had major differences with their friend. It is their way of showing support for their fallen friend they abandoned in his time of need.
I believe that most people can be salvaged until such time they can’t. You have an obligation not to let anyone fall off the cliff if you can save them. What these people did was watch a young man at the brink of falling off the cliff on matters of the heart, and matters of financial ruin, and pushed him off instead of reaching out and save him.
Let me tell you and i don't care if u like it or not. With rare exceptions, if i find a cop has a problem i will let him know one way or the other.
Practice what you preach for everybody. Not just the chosen few.How about no, its a free country and if this guy wants to give someone a break ONLY because he is a cop, hes entitled to do so. How does his choice impact your life? It doesnt.
How about mind your own busines. You want your opinion noted thats fine, but your opinion is based on partial facts gleamed from a marginal source such as newsday. The pos in the 5th, and the 6th knew about the incidents well before it made news, po valentine they knew the story, the real story not newsday/geraldo version, and the guys in the 5th for the entire time it was being investigated. You didnt hear the defendants version of what happened, just a bash em up liberal version from the rags. So now you think you can stand in judgement of those who are aware of whats actually going on? Get real, why dont you educate your ignorant butt to the sum and substance of the entire case, instead of just jumping on the newsday bandwagon, hey you know their subscriptions are up again like 1 billion papers sold? They are quite credible. You know why you cant find out more, because simply put you arent ''one of the chosen few"
GUEST770
04-12-2006, 08:26 AM
YOU may have noticed I make no effort to hide who I am. But you do.
Some day that little soapbox is going to be like the guy on the Lotto commercial with the loudspeaker on top of the Empire State Building.
Just a quick example I had a kid who drove around and shot out a window to a m/v. I caught him in the act. It was a isolated incident or at least the 1st of many victims that night. The guy came out and was ready to choke the kid out, needless to say he was more than happy to press charges, when the kids parent showed up, it turned out the 2 guys were in the same carpentry union, they had never even met. The kid agreed to pay damages and it was squashed right there. From almost getting arrested for assault on the kid to shaking hands in less then 10 minutes.
Ok, so you catch this little sh!t redhanded driving around the neighborhood shooting out cars windows. And them you let him go????????????????
Are you a cop or a prosecutor? How the frig are you protecting the rest of us by letting the little sh!t go?
Who cares what the carpenters wanted? Youre the guy in charge!!
Don't you have an obligation to protect ALL of us from this little sh!t? Don't you think the little sh!t gave you more then enough reason for him to see the inside of a courtroom?
The State had an excellent case against the little sh!t because you the police officer witnessed the little sh!t causing serious property damage to innocent people's property....but instead you LET HIM GO!
Unfrigginbelieveable!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just a quick example I had a kid who drove around and shot out a window to a m/v. I caught him in the act. It was a isolated incident or at least the 1st of many victims that night. The guy came out and was ready to choke the kid out, needless to say he was more than happy to press charges, when the kids parent showed up, it turned out the 2 guys were in the same carpentry union, they had never even met. The kid agreed to pay damages and it was squashed right there. From almost getting arrested for assault on the kid to shaking hands in less then 10 minutes.
Ok, so you catch this little sh!t redhanded driving around the neighborhood shooting out cars windows. And them you let him go????????????????
I agree with your sentiment, however it's not that simple. Try bringing that arrest in without a statement, or an affidavit signed by by the owner of the car. No desk sgt will allow the arrest. Theoretically it is a good arrest, in practice it won't fly. You're better off locking the kid up for a reckless endangerment if you can somehow articulate it based on your observations. If nothing else do a discon and UR-18 the kid. Who knows how many other windows he shot out and you might find another more willing complainant. Bottom line is the little sh!t should have worn the bracelets for something. The cop who just let him walk was a moron.
Are you a cop or a prosecutor? How the frig are you protecting the rest of us by letting the little sh!t go?
Who cares what the carpenters wanted? Youre the guy in charge!!
Don't you have an obligation to protect ALL of us from this little sh!t? Don't you think the little sh!t gave you more then enough reason for him to see the inside of a courtroom?
The State had an excellent case against the little sh!t because you the police officer witnessed the little sh!t causing serious property damage to innocent people's property....but instead you LET HIM GO!
Unfrigginbelieveable!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No desk sgt will allow the arrest.
BullSh!t.
The cop observed the kid shooting out a window.
The kid she be arrested and the DA should be given a chance to decide whether or not to prosecute..that is the DA's job.
If the victim does not want to cooperate he should plead his case for forgiveness to the DA, not the cops.
I'd like to know the name of the desk officer who voided this arrest. He should be back walkin a foot post in front of the crack motel where his fellow officers steal bandwidth.
No desk sgt will allow the arrest.
BullSh!t.
The cop observed the kid shooting out a window.
The kid she be arrested and the DA should be given a chance to decide whether or not to prosecute..that is the DA's job.
If the victim does not want to cooperate he should plead his case for forgiveness to the DA, not the cops.
I'd like to know the name of the desk officer who voided this arrest. He should be back walkin a foot post in front of the crack motel where his fellow officers steal bandwidth.
Are you a cop? Doesn't sound like it. Without a statement or a signed affidavit from the owner of the property an arrest won't be made, at least out here. If you're a city cop maybe things work different for you. They don't let us act as complainants in cases like this. No complainant or an uncooperative complainant means no arrest. Domestics... well that's another story. I wasn't saying the kid shouldn't be arrested. Disorderly conduct would certainly fit and it gives an excuse to hold on to him for awhile in case other victims come forward. The charge would stick with a cooperating complainant. As I said the cop who just let him walk is a moron.
Are you a cop? Doesn't sound like it. Without a statement or a signed affidavit from the owner of the property an arrest won't be made, at least out here.
Okay, what happens when a police officer observes this kid shoot out a car window and the owner of the car (and his representatives) are out of town for a month. does the kid get away scot free because the owner is not available to sign a supporting dep?
As I said the cop who just let him walk is a moron
In the case of the kid who endangered public safety by shooting out car windows, is the arresting officer the only police official responsible for letting the criminal kid go?
What about the sergeant who voided the arrest? Or do police officers in your department have the authority to unarrest a person after they arrested him.
Perhaps you would be willing to share your department's policy for voiding an arrest?
Thats why the Deputies should be handling more police work out here. SCPD has to many people only there for the money, not the love of the job. May be the way of the future.
Thanks for the support. I am not, or ever was a SCPD cop. I was a NYC cop. When a person has an emotional problem you don’t ignore that person and throw him to the wolves.
I tried to save this kid from himself. I went to the PBA believing they could help him. I could just as easily picked up the phone and called Internal Affairs or his commanding officer. When I went to the PBA, it was my express wish to see that no harm came to this man. I knew if someone didn’t intercede in this matter the kid was going to self destruct. And that is what he did and his friends allowed it to happen.
My inquires into his situation told me the kid was under investigation by IAB. I knew this about nine months before he crashed in flames. If I knew it how come his well connected friends in the police department didn’t know it? Of course they knew it and they did nothing to stop it so they could save their own skins with their newly acquired political patron.
They let their friend continue to incriminate himself while he was chasing an investment he made with a swindler. His friends did business with this swindler themselves, and they knew he was now an informant who was setting the trap for their friend.
How do they make up for their cowardly behavior? They go after another cop who had major differences with their friend. It is their way of showing support for their fallen friend they abandoned in his time of need.
I believe that most people can be salvaged until such time they can’t. You have an obligation not to let anyone fall off the cliff if you can save them. What these people did was watch a young man at the brink of falling off the cliff on matters of the heart, and matters of financial ruin, and pushed him off instead of reaching out and save him.
Let me tell you and i don't care if u like it or not. With rare exceptions, if i find a cop has a problem i will let him know one way or the other.
Practice what you preach for everybody. Not just the chosen few.How about no, its a free country and if this guy wants to give someone a break ONLY because he is a cop, hes entitled to do so. How does his choice impact your life? It doesnt.
How about mind your own busines. You want your opinion noted thats fine, but your opinion is based on partial facts gleamed from a marginal source such as newsday. The pos in the 5th, and the 6th knew about the incidents well before it made news, po valentine they knew the story, the real story not newsday/geraldo version, and the guys in the 5th for the entire time it was being investigated. You didnt hear the defendants version of what happened, just a bash em up liberal version from the rags. So now you think you can stand in judgement of those who are aware of whats actually going on? Get real, why dont you educate your ignorant butt to the sum and substance of the entire case, instead of just jumping on the newsday bandwagon, hey you know their subscriptions are up again like 1 billion papers sold? They are quite credible. You know why you cant find out more, because simply put you arent ''one of the chosen few"
Thanks for the support. I am not, or ever was a SCPD cop. I was a NYC cop. When a person has an emotional problem you don’t ignore that person and throw him to the wolves.
I tried to save this kid from himself. I went to the PBA believing they could help him. I could just as easily picked up the phone and called Internal Affairs or his commanding officer. When I went to the PBA, it was my express wish to see that no harm came to this man. I knew if someone didn’t intercede in this matter the kid was going to self destruct. And that is what he did and his friends allowed it to happen.
My inquires into his situation told me the kid was under investigation by IAB. I knew this about nine months before he crashed in flames. If I knew it how come his well connected friends in the police department didn’t know it? Of course they knew it and they did nothing to stop it so they could save their own skins with their newly acquired political patron.
They let their friend continue to incriminate himself while he was chasing an investment he made with a swindler. His friends did business with this swindler themselves, and they knew he was now an informant who was setting the trap for their friend.
How do they make up for their cowardly behavior? They go after another cop who had major differences with their friend. It is their way of showing support for their fallen friend they abandoned in his time of need.
I believe that most people can be salvaged until such time they can’t. You have an obligation not to let anyone fall off the cliff if you can save them. What these people did was watch a young man at the brink of falling off the cliff on matters of the heart, and matters of financial ruin, and pushed him off instead of reaching out and save him.
Let me tell you and i don't care if u like it or not. With rare exceptions, if i find a cop has a problem i will let him know one way or the other.
Practice what you preach for everybody. Not just the chosen few.How about no, its a free country and if this guy wants to give someone a break ONLY because he is a cop, hes entitled to do so. How does his choice impact your life? It doesnt."
So, you admit that you are a bias mother f-ker. You let him off easy because he was a cop, white and a male. Now, he is off the hook and free to harrass any other female walking this earth. Good show, you moron.
Are you a cop? Doesn't sound like it. Without a statement or a signed affidavit from the owner of the property an arrest won't be made, at least out here.
Okay, what happens when a police officer observes this kid shoot out a car window and the owner of the car (and his representatives) are out of town for a month. does the kid get away scot free because the owner is not available to sign a supporting dep?
As I said the cop who just let him walk is a moron
In the case of the kid who endangered public safety by shooting out car windows, is the arresting officer the only police official responsible for letting the criminal kid go?
What about the sergeant who voided the arrest? Or do police officers in your department have the authority to unarrest a person after they arrested him.
Perhaps you would be willing to share your department's policy for voiding an arrest?
Do yourself and everyone else a favor. Spend a few years getting familiar with the CPL. In misdemeanor cases involving crimes against property or the person the "victim" has the choice whether or not to press charges. If the victim does not want to pursue the matter no arrest is made. The victim does not get that option in the case of a felony. I would not have let the kid go. More than likely he shot out other windows. An arrest for disorderly conduct would enable us to hold on to him for awhile in case other complainants came forward, or at least get all of his pedigree info to tie him to any other incidents. It would also enable us to charge the kid in the future when the owner became available.
Go back and read the original post. The kid wasn't arrested, so nobody voided an arrest. It has nothing to do with "departmental policy". It has everything to do with operating within the parameters set forth in the New York State Criminal Procedure Law.
Just because YOU think the law should work a certain way doesn't matter. The laws are clear. We can't disregard the laws of arrest because they may be inconvenient at times. Open some books, do some research and maybe the next time you spout off you won't sound so ignorant.
Are you a cop? Doesn't sound like it. Without a statement or a signed affidavit from the owner of the property an arrest won't be made, at least out here.
Okay, what happens when a police officer observes this kid shoot out a car window and the owner of the car (and his representatives) are out of town for a month. does the kid get away scot free because the owner is not available to sign a supporting dep?
As I said the cop who just let him walk is a moron
In the case of the kid who endangered public safety by shooting out car windows, is the arresting officer the only police official responsible for letting the criminal kid go?
What about the sergeant who voided the arrest? Or do police officers in your department have the authority to unarrest a person after they arrested him.
Perhaps you would be willing to share your department's policy for voiding an arrest?But that isnt the case here, so stop with the what ifs. The owner of the property came to a agreement with the kid and his family, and refused to press charges. End of story. Since it was a isolated incident, no other damage done, to any other motor vehicle, it was written up and cleared as compl refused to press charges. By the way if there was no comp due to the owner being out of town, the kid could be charged with dis con, assuming he was 16, and upgraded to misd. crim mis in court.
Sorry if thats not how you " I pay your salaries " idiots want things done, but you really dont have a say, we abide by the laws of nys, and the procedures of suffolk county, haha not some anon morons on li politics.com
dole...john dole
04-14-2006, 09:19 AM
No desk sgt will allow the arrest.
BullSh!t.
The cop observed the kid shooting out a window.
The kid she be arrested and the DA should be given a chance to decide whether or not to prosecute..that is the DA's job.
If the victim does not want to cooperate he should plead his case for forgiveness to the DA, not the cops.
I'd like to know the name of the desk officer who voided this arrest. He should be back walkin a foot post in front of the crack motel where his fellow officers steal bandwidth. His name Robert Pimpiano :o
Thats why the Deputies should be handling more police work out here. SCPD has to many people only there for the money, not the love of the job. May be the way of the future.So your complaint is that the cop who was actively patrolling and caught someone redhanded in the act, and followed the law held the kid in custody for his actions, notified the owner/victim of incident who decided to work things out with the kid and his parents, didnt act properly? He should have just arrested him anyway and when he showed up without a statement from the victim, then unarrest the kid, and face the liability of false arrest?
By the way the deputies have absolutely no interest in patrol function, they prefer their gig, which is why they became deps in the first place, knowing the average month they will handle or assist a average of 3-5 911 calls.
You ignoramus are incredible, when your window gets shot out, you decide whats going to happen, its your property, not scpd, not the pope and not even the deps
Ok, so you catch this little sh!t redhanded driving around the neighborhood shooting out cars windows. And them you let him go????????????????
No I didnt, I handcuffed him and put him face down on the snow.
I even stated ''one in investigative custody"
Are you a cop or a prosecutor? How the frig are you protecting the rest of us by letting the little sh!t goActually if you read the paragraph he shot one window. The kid was id and was advised he was the prime suspect for the next 10 years for anything that happened in the'hood. And watching dad break his 100$ air gun was fun too. Additionally becauseI didnt have a cooperative complaintant, he was let go by the complaintant. Who cares what the carpenters wanted? Youre the guy in charge!! Thats right I'm the man!!!!!!!! Unfortunatley it wasnt my property, I advised the owner to press charges, but his union buddy had far more sway over him than I. It seems when you own property you have ultimate say over how it is treated.
Don't you have an obligation to protect ALL of us from this little sh!t? Don't you think the little sh!t gave you more then enough reason for him to see the inside of a courtroom?
I pretty much said the same thing to the victim, but since it was his call, sorry, I had no say. Again I did my job, caught him in the act, but without a cooperative victim, there is no case. As far as protecting ALL of you, he was identified to our dept as a current-future trouble maker, we check on him regularly and he actually has given up some decent info on the activity in the neighborhood.
The State had an excellent case against the little sh!t because you the police officer witnessed the little sh!t causing serious property damage to innocent people's property....but instead you LET HIM GO!
Nope his victim did. sorry go talk to him. By the way the victim wrote a very nice letter saying how professional and helpful I was in this situation to my Inspector who put it in our bulletin.
Unfrigginbelieveable!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes you are stop looking for stuff to bash us, or at least learn the law 1st so you dont sound so ignorant.
what if??????????????????
04-14-2006, 09:53 AM
Okay, what happens when a police officer observes this kid shoot out a car window and the owner of the car (and his representatives) are out of town for a month. does the kid get away scot free because the owner is not available to sign a supporting dep?
Ok so I take him in custody to the precinct. Make certain he has excellent id, find out where he works..etc, one of my neighboring sector cars goes to his home and talks to his parents. While he is there he checks to see if there is a for sale sign on his lawn.
The parents come down and I explain the situation , that I ''observed this kid shoot out a car window and the owner of the car (and his representatives) are out of town for a month. does the kid get away scot free because the owner is not available to sign a supporting dep." And that when they come back, that we will be calling him to the precinct for his arrest. If he doesnt show we issue a warrant for his arrest. Of course we leave messages on the victims phone, and a note to explain what happened.
Any more silly scenarios...how about the owner is alone no family and passed away the same day?
How about no, its a free country and if this guy wants to give someone a break ONLY because he is a cop, hes entitled to do so. How does his choice impact your life? It doesnt."
So, you admit that you are a bias mother f-ker. You let him off easy because he was a cop, white and a male. Now, he is off the hook and free to harrass any other female walking this earth. Good show, you moron.
No moron because I'm not guest770, just someone defending him. So he didnt admit to nothing. Go back to the original post, read it see the username guest 770...now read the post ''how about no? '' Username ''guest" stop grasping for straws because every post you make only makes you more look even more ignorant.
9311111
04-14-2006, 10:19 AM
Are you a cop? Doesn't sound like it. Without a statement or a signed affidavit from the owner of the property an arrest won't be made, at least out here.
Okay, what happens when a police officer observes this kid shoot out a car window and the owner of the car (and his representatives) are out of town for a month. does the kid get away scot free because the owner is not available to sign a supporting dep?
As I said the cop who just let him walk is a moron
In the case of the kid who endangered public safety by shooting out car windows, is the arresting officer the only police official responsible for letting the criminal kid go?
What about the sergeant who voided the arrest? Or do police officers in your department have the authority to unarrest a person after they arrested him.
Perhaps you would be willing to share your department's policy for voiding an arrest?Quote:
I find it more bizarre that a defrocked detective has the nerve to come here and troll-lecture regular hardworking street cops about morality, corruption ad infinitum for years, because he got pinched for a questionable ''self defense'' tactic
Obviously you are entitled to your opinion yet from where I am sitting it appears Menso did what he wanted to do and regardless of what you write about him there is nothing any one can do to stop him.
Kinda frustrating for you, isn't it?
dont flatter yourself. actually i love it. a busted cop preaching abou ethics. its a riot. i only wish i knew sooner, his trollisms would have been even funnier,lol
Actually, its far more fun when he posts because he is so easily shot down. Its sad for us all when he cowers off after the latest round of ridicule and defeat, licking the wounds to his frail little ego. Posting somewhere a bit less challenging to him, like news12, chatti's fave too. But he'll be back, he cant help his lonely self.
No explanation for you sorry, pothead cabbie,. Maybe if you didnt commit the crime of purchasing and using illegal stret drugs, you'd know a bit more about policies and procedures...lol
good chortle
04-14-2006, 12:08 PM
I find it incredible that there are folks out there whose lives are so empty that they are arguing on a anon web board about something that already happened. You have nothing better to do with your two empty existences than complain about a incident that occurred somewhere else, not involving you or your property, that was handled satisfactorily to the party involved? In other words, the guy whose window was damaged had the option of arresting the subject, but he decided to work it out between himself and the subject and his family. He chose not to. His property his choice, not the officer involved, and certainly not yours.
Of course to exaggerate the situation one troll posts about the dangers of this youth, that he is free to attack the rest of Gods creation...oh the drama. Dont you think the incident report documents the type of gun used, the make and color of the car, and the subject's name and pedigree? Dont you think now that he is known, everytime some petty mischief occurs the investigation isnt going to look at him? Grow up, your agenda is so obvious why dont you just put the user name bash the police for anything? Because thats what you are doing floundering around.
The next troll attempts to make a arrest situation. Well let me ask, if the victim never pressed charges, at what point is the subject under arrest? To detain someone or hold them in custody does nt mean arrest.
Additionally show me the charge for ''endangering public safety" with the specifics of the incident, no other person around, subject shot a car window with a bee-bee gun. No one was menaced, no one was endangered, I'm certain based on my years on the force and taking 1000s of crim mis reports that a bee bee gun wouldnt go thru alum siding and enter the interior of a home, nor would they go thru a window pane. So if there are no other victims other than the owner of the m/v, who was endangered? And please no ''what ifs'' deal with the facts.
The dis con thing is a option, but it is a lesser, included offense. Most supervisors would frown upon that, its bad publicity for the dept, (whether you care or not many people who wear the big hats on the job make that decision and frankly dont care what uninvolved folks like yourselves think). Regardless of what you think the only person that the officer had to please is the victim, not you.
Dont think for a second all of this occurred without any notifications over the radio, canvassing of the area, and or supervisors showing up. Of course if there is futher crim mis discovered the next morning, the subject has already been identified, and can be picked up as soon as the paperwork is done.
This is a everyday event. What happens when kids are caught in the woods starting fires? They are held at the scene until the arson detectives and fire marshal come. After investigating the incident, assuming the kids have no prior contact with the law even as juvenile offenders, are under 18 years of age,and they did no damage to real property, they are enrolled in the firestarters program and released to their parents. No physcial arrest, no court appearance, as long as they attend the program, and complete it.
There are 100s of incidents that occur daily in this county, that the police allow the people involved to work out between them, of course there are mandatory arrest situations.
This isnt a big deal, I tend to agree with the others, you raggers have a hate agenda going. Or are just bored. Or incredibly ignorant how the world works.
Okay, what happens when a police officer observes this kid shoot out a car window and the owner of the car (and his representatives) are out of town for a month. does the kid get away scot free because the owner is not available to sign a supporting dep?
Ok so I take him in custody to the precinct. Make certain he has excellent id, find out where he works..etc, one of my neighboring sector cars goes to his home and talks to his parents. While he is there he checks to see if there is a for sale sign on his lawn.
The parents come down and I explain the situation , that I ''observed this kid shoot out a car window and the owner of the car (and his representatives) are out of town for a month. does the kid get away scot free because the owner is not available to sign a supporting dep." And that when they come back, that we will be calling him to the precinct for his arrest. If he doesnt show we issue a warrant for his arrest. Of course we leave messages on the victims phone, and a note to explain what happened.
Any more silly scenarios...how about the owner is alone no family and passed away the same day?How about this one WHAT IF the property owner hears the pop of the pellet gun go off and runs to see what happened. As he is rushing to the window he falls and hits his head hard on the ground. He gets up and goes outside where 2 houses down Officer Ben Dover has the youth in custody, as in prior post the weather is horrid, about 20 degrees (F) the victim went outside in his jammies and is noticeably shivering. Again, as noted in the original story, he has to be restrained by the officer as he is a old school parent, his face is beet red from yelling. After things calm down, the youths parents arrive at the scene, why I dont know but thats how the story goes, and the parents begin talking. They work it out between them, and Officer Ben clears it with his sgt,duty officer, lt, captain, dep inspector, inspector, chief of patrol and even chief of the broom closet on the 6th floor of headquarters(there is only 2 floors). They all agree it would make the dept look softer and more in tune with the community.
All is resolved and the property owner goes into his house and settles down for a long winter nap. He never wakes up in the morning. Between falling and hitting his head, rushing out in to the frigid temperature and the near physical altercation, he suffered a fatal heart attack/stroke/blood clot/ with a touch of legionaires disease.
Should nt the youth now be charged with his death? Since his actions led directly to his demise? Isnt it all Officer Ben's fault? Can I sue scpd now because this youth is free to make more innocent people fall and gonk their heads? How is scpd doing their job if they dont protect all of us from this very same fate? Or do I too need to find something else to do with my life other than think about scpd? And the deps...<sigh> and the deps.....
been there heard that
04-15-2006, 12:37 PM
thats too funny, showed this to about 5 pos already and they are laughing their butts off. You really got the ignorant demanding victim of police actions genre down pat, I'd swear I was talking to a civilian complaining about the way the officers car passed his pile of leaves and upset the pile and how the po refused to clean them up.
Does anyone really think the officer did the right thing by the public he serves when he did not arrest the young person who the officer observed randomly shooting out a car window?
you re dismissed troll
04-17-2006, 04:34 AM
Does anyone really think the officer did the right thing by the public he serves when he did not arrest the young person who the officer observed randomly shooting out a car window?Apparently the property owner did, and thats all that matters. That was the only member of the public he ''had to do the right thing by" anon sh!tstirrers on a web board really arent all that important, this isnt a random incident, dozens of misdemeanors are cleared every day due to victim refusal to cooperate, nice try though, troll. See you tomorrow with your next spin
Does anyone really think the officer did the right thing by the public he serves when he did not arrest the young person who the officer observed randomly shooting out a car window?Well I see someone has a agenda here. You went through the legal aspect..arrest for a crime committed as per nys pl, it was shot down because the victim refused to cooperate. Then the policy/standing operating procedure aspect.. unarrest... shot down because no arrest was made. Then a series of ''what ifs'' or ''what happens'' that were b-grade movie plots found on Lifetime. Then a attempt to create new laws and apply them ''endangering public safety '' shot down simply because you cant make up laws ( see school house rock ''I'm just a bill")
So now you are pandering to the public opinion of this message bored to try and prove your dead end point?
This isnt a big deal, I tend to agree with the others, you raggers have a hate agenda going. Or are just bored. Or incredibly ignorant how the world works.
My choice would be #3.
incredibly ignorant how the world works
Geez I never thought I'd get so much attention from that blurb, Maybe I should have mentioned that that happened about 17 years ago. Next time I'll try to realize all the troll anon-ambulance chaser types would jump allover me. Or maybe you losers still want to argue about something that happened in the 1980s? I'm sure some of you have no other life, so lets hear the whining.
Geez I never thought I'd get so much attention from that blurb, Maybe I should have mentioned that that happened about 17 years ago. Next time I'll try to realize all the troll anon-ambulance chaser types would jump allover me. Or maybe you losers still want to argue about something that happened in the 1980s? I'm sure some of you have no other life, so lets hear the whining.Then shame on you for waiting all these years to confess your sins, you should have posted this back then!
3 days later..........
04-19-2006, 04:51 AM
Does anyone really think the officer did the right thing by the public he serves when he did not arrest the young person who the officer observed randomly shooting out a car window? Apparently not, sorry troll now get me to the lirr fast or no tip!!! :lol:
A week later......
04-22-2006, 12:36 PM
Does anyone really think the officer did the right thing by the public he serves when he did not arrest the young person who the officer observed randomly shooting out a car window?
Not a nibble, and the disgraced cop forced off the job due to his disregard for the laws he is supposed to uphold is gone, not surprising, when the truth is revealed, what else can he do?
2 weeks later
05-03-2006, 03:36 PM
not 1
http://copswritingcops.com/
2 weeks later
05-03-2006, 03:37 PM
not 1
http://copswritingcops.com/
go there
3 weeks later
05-07-2006, 11:44 AM
Does anyone really think the officer did the right thing by the public he serves when he did not arrest the young person who the officer observed randomly shooting out a car window?
Not a nibble, and the disgraced cop forced off the job due to his disregard for the laws he is supposed to uphold is gone, not surprising, when the truth is revealed, what else can he do?not surprised, just you, and only you. No one cares like you do, troll.
I am shocked though that county resident, dr corvalle, a skidmore, and the rest of your alter egos didnt suddenly chime in...
lol
bearer of bad news
05-12-2006, 10:27 PM
order out today...Boyd terminated
order out today...Boyd terminated
OMG, this is bad news. When I read the order I broke down in tears and began inconsolably weeping. The DO noticed my emotional state and when I told him about the termination order he began to weep. At first a single tear trickled down his rosy red cheek. As the shock of hearing Boyd was terminated subsided, the DO began bawling like a little boy who had his TV privileges taken away for a week.
As the in house staff learned of the Boyd termination they too became inconsolable.
It was a sad sight watching sworn officers and civilians alike soaking roll after roll of toilet paper with tears of immutable sadness over the firing of a stand-up cop who was fired for committing a couple crimes against a defenseless victim.
About 30 minutes after the order came down the CO emerged from his office and bore the same tears of sadness we were all experiencing at the time. His dress blouse was soaked with tears of sadness he felt for Officer Boyd. It made us all proud when the CO himself went outside and lowered the American flag in front of the Precinct to half mast.
The Suffolk PD will never be the same now that Officer Boyd has been terminated. :cry:
LONG LIVE THE STALKER !!!
order out today...Boyd terminated
OMG, this is bad news. When I read the order I broke down in tears and began inconsolably weeping. The DO noticed my emotional state and when I told him about the termination order he began to weep. At first a single tear trickled down his rosy red cheek. As the shock of hearing Boyd was terminated subsided, the DO began bawling like a little boy who had his TV privileges taken away for a week.
As the in house staff learned of the Boyd termination they too became inconsolable.
It was a sad sight watching sworn officers and civilians alike soaking roll after roll of toilet paper with tears of immutable sadness over the firing of a stand-up cop who was fired for committing a couple crimes against a defenseless victim.
About 30 minutes after the order came down the CO emerged from his office and bore the same tears of sadness we were all experiencing at the time. His dress blouse was soaked with tears of sadness he felt for Officer Boyd. It made us all proud when the CO himself went outside and lowered the American flag in front of the Precinct to half mast.
The Suffolk PD will never be the same now that Officer Boyd has been terminated. :cry:
LONG LIVE THE STALKER !!!
dont you wish you had that kind of send off, instead, someone was in your spot in seconds thinking what a tool you must be to let your addictions get you fired.
order out today...Boyd terminated
OMG, this is bad news. When I read the order I broke down in tears and began inconsolably weeping. The DO noticed my emotional state and when I told him about the termination order he began to weep. At first a single tear trickled down his rosy red cheek. As the shock of hearing Boyd was terminated subsided, the DO began bawling like a little boy who had his TV privileges taken away for a week.
As the in house staff learned of the Boyd termination they too became inconsolable.
It was a sad sight watching sworn officers and civilians alike soaking roll after roll of toilet paper with tears of immutable sadness over the firing of a stand-up cop who was fired for committing a couple crimes against a defenseless victim.
About 30 minutes after the order came down the CO emerged from his office and bore the same tears of sadness we were all experiencing at the time. His dress blouse was soaked with tears of sadness he felt for Officer Boyd. It made us all proud when the CO himself went outside and lowered the American flag in front of the Precinct to half mast.
The Suffolk PD will never be the same now that Officer Boyd has been terminated. :cry:
LONG LIVE THE STALKER !!!
Whats really sad is you dont even know what you are trolling about. This guy didnt stalk anyone, he had the domestic with his girlfriend and she had him locked up. ...you cant even troll properly, loser
here today gone tomm.
05-15-2006, 10:01 AM
order out today...Boyd terminated
OMG, this is bad news. When I read the order I broke down in tears and began inconsolably weeping. The DO noticed my emotional state and when I told him about the termination order he began to weep. At first a single tear trickled down his rosy red cheek. As the shock of hearing Boyd was terminated subsided, the DO began bawling like a little boy who had his TV privileges taken away for a week.
As the in house staff learned of the Boyd termination they too became inconsolable.
It was a sad sight watching sworn officers and civilians alike soaking roll after roll of toilet paper with tears of immutable sadness over the firing of a stand-up cop who was fired for committing a couple crimes against a defenseless victim.
About 30 minutes after the order came down the CO emerged from his office and bore the same tears of sadness we were all experiencing at the time. His dress blouse was soaked with tears of sadness he felt for Officer Boyd. It made us all proud when the CO himself went outside and lowered the American flag in front of the Precinct to half mast.
The Suffolk PD will never be the same now that Officer Boyd has been terminated. :cry:
LONG LIVE THE STALKER !!!
HERE IT IS ANOTHER DICK HEAD WRIGHTING IN AND NOT KNOWING WHAT THE F##K HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
THE TRUTH IS BOYD IS A GOOD GUY WHO'S EXGIRLFRIEND JUST SCREWED HIM OVER .
GOOD LUCK BOYD I HOPE THINGS SOMEHOW WORK OUT.
order out today...Boyd terminated
OMG, this is bad news. When I read the order I broke down in tears and began inconsolably weeping. The DO noticed my emotional state and when I told him about the termination order he began to weep. At first a single tear trickled down his rosy red cheek. As the shock of hearing Boyd was terminated subsided, the DO began bawling like a little boy who had his TV privileges taken away for a week.
As the in house staff learned of the Boyd termination they too became inconsolable.
It was a sad sight watching sworn officers and civilians alike soaking roll after roll of toilet paper with tears of immutable sadness over the firing of a stand-up cop who was fired for committing a couple crimes against a defenseless victim.
About 30 minutes after the order came down the CO emerged from his office and bore the same tears of sadness we were all experiencing at the time. His dress blouse was soaked with tears of sadness he felt for Officer Boyd. It made us all proud when the CO himself went outside and lowered the American flag in front of the Precinct to half mast.
The Suffolk PD will never be the same now that Officer Boyd has been terminated. :cry:
LONG LIVE THE STALKER !!!
HERE IT IS ANOTHER DICK HEAD WRIGHTING IN AND NOT KNOWING WHAT THE F##K HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
THE TRUTH IS BOYD IS A GOOD GUY WHO'S EXGIRLFRIEND JUST SCREWED HIM OVER .
GOOD LUCK BOYD I HOPE THINGS SOMEHOW WORK OUT.
Another moron of a man heard from. You could be next with that benign mode of logic about that criminal act he committed against a civilian while he was hiding behind a badge. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Badge or no badge, you could be next, numnuts.
order out today...Boyd terminated
OMG, this is bad news. When I read the order I broke down in tears and began inconsolably weeping. The DO noticed my emotional state and when I told him about the termination order he began to weep. At first a single tear trickled down his rosy red cheek. As the shock of hearing Boyd was terminated subsided, the DO began bawling like a little boy who had his TV privileges taken away for a week.
As the in house staff learned of the Boyd termination they too became inconsolable.
It was a sad sight watching sworn officers and civilians alike soaking roll after roll of toilet paper with tears of immutable sadness over the firing of a stand-up cop who was fired for committing a couple crimes against a defenseless victim.
About 30 minutes after the order came down the CO emerged from his office and bore the same tears of sadness we were all experiencing at the time. His dress blouse was soaked with tears of sadness he felt for Officer Boyd. It made us all proud when the CO himself went outside and lowered the American flag in front of the Precinct to half mast.
The Suffolk PD will never be the same now that Officer Boyd has been terminated. :cry:
LONG LIVE THE STALKER !!!
HERE IT IS ANOTHER DICK HEAD WRIGHTING IN AND NOT KNOWING WHAT THE F##K HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
THE TRUTH IS BOYD IS A GOOD GUY WHO'S EXGIRLFRIEND JUST SCREWED HIM OVER .
GOOD LUCK BOYD I HOPE THINGS SOMEHOW WORK OUT.
Another moron of a man heard from. You could be next with that benign mode of logic about that criminal act he committed against a civilian while he was hiding behind a badge. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Badge or no badge, you could be next, numnuts.so could you
Whats really sad is you dont even know what you are trolling about. This guy didnt stalk anyone, he had the domestic with his girlfriend and she had him locked up. ...you cant even troll properly, loser
Unless Officer Boyd was living with his girlfriend or they had a baby together, this was not a case of a police officer committing domestic violence crimes...I'm sure you know that but you chose to lie when defneding your brother officer.
Also, I understand SCPD Officer Boyd was indicted for allegedly committing 197 crimes against the woman he was stalking and harrassing....when is the last time you arrested a domestic violence perp and charged him with 197 CRIMES ?????????????
ur a retard, get ur story straight. that was the SIXTH PRECINCT COP who got indicted. puh-leeze.
next idiot..............
05-18-2006, 07:02 PM
Whats really sad is you dont even know what you are trolling about. This guy didnt stalk anyone, he had the domestic with his girlfriend and she had him locked up. ...you cant even troll properly, loser
Unless Officer Boyd was living with his girlfriend or they had a baby together, this was not a case of a police officer committing domestic violence crimes...I'm sure you know that but you chose to lie when defneding your brother officer.
Also, I understand SCPD Officer Boyd was indicted for allegedly committing 197 crimes against the woman he was stalking and harrassing....when is the last time you arrested a domestic violence perp and charged him with 197 CRIMES ?????????????You obviously dont understand jack, because you are wrong.
You need to read a few headlines dumb troll loser, that wasnt officer boyd. officer boyd wasnt charged with 197 crimes, you are extremely ignorant, officer boyd was charged with menacing his girlfriend who he had a domestic relationship with...ok?
Sorry I'm not defending someone who I dont know, or lieing, you are just dumb, dumb because you are ignorant and when advised of the truth, you still argue, go check your facts, then come back ok simpleton?
Boyd's "girlfriend" made an allegation that he subjected her to unwanted physical contact. Simply put she said he choked her or pushed her etc. Her allegation cannot be verified. There were no injuries or witnesses, only her word against his. For that he was fired. She got a bug up her ass and knew how to shaft him. This should serve as a lesson to all the men out there. If your significant other alleges you struck her, pushed her, slapped her, etc you are screwed. She needs no proof, no witnesses and no documented injuries. Her word is golden and you are going to jail. The deck is really stacked against the men in domestic disputes. You can thank all the liberal, militant feminist groups for the current state of affairs. Men who hit women should be punished. Women who make false allegations should be punished as well, but they're not.
Boyd's "girlfriend" made an allegation that he subjected her to unwanted physical contact. Simply put she said he choked her or pushed her etc. Her allegation cannot be verified. There were no injuries or witnesses, only her word against his. For that he was fired. She got a bug up her ass and knew how to shaft him. This should serve as a lesson to all the men out there. If your significant other alleges you struck her, pushed her, slapped her, etc you are screwed. She needs no proof, no witnesses and no documented injuries. Her word is golden and you are going to jail. The deck is really stacked against the men in domestic disputes. You can thank all the liberal, militant feminist groups for the current state of affairs. Men who hit women should be punished. Women who make false allegations should be punished as well, but they're not.
Actually there is far more to the story than simple harassment and boyd was fired because he was a probationary officer.
order out today...Boyd terminated
OMG, this is bad news. When I read the order I broke down in tears and began inconsolably weeping. The DO noticed my emotional state and when I told him about the termination order he began to weep. At first a single tear trickled down his rosy red cheek. As the shock of hearing Boyd was terminated subsided, the DO began bawling like a little boy who had his TV privileges taken away for a week.
As the in house staff learned of the Boyd termination they too became inconsolable.
It was a sad sight watching sworn officers and civilians alike soaking roll after roll of toilet paper with tears of immutable sadness over the firing of a stand-up cop who was fired for committing a couple crimes against a defenseless victim.
About 30 minutes after the order came down the CO emerged from his office and bore the same tears of sadness we were all experiencing at the time. His dress blouse was soaked with tears of sadness he felt for Officer Boyd. It made us all proud when the CO himself went outside and lowered the American flag in front of the Precinct to half mast.
The Suffolk PD will never be the same now that Officer Boyd has been terminated. :cry:
LONG LIVE THE STALKER !!!
you are a tard, wrong cop wrong pct, how lame are you? you cannot even troll correctly. Next time you want to be a coptroll go at a minimum and read a newspaper and educate yourself on the topic, so you dont make a ass of yourself ok? and have a nice day, I know I wil after reading your lame ass posts... :wink:
Whats really sad is you dont even know what you are trolling about. This guy didnt stalk anyone, he had the domestic with his girlfriend and she had him locked up. ...you cant even troll properly, loser
Unless Officer Boyd was living with his girlfriend or they had a baby together, this was not a case of a police officer committing domestic violence crimes...I'm sure you know that but you chose to lie when defneding your brother officer.
Also, I understand SCPD Officer Boyd was indicted for allegedly committing 197 crimes against the woman he was stalking and harrassing....when is the last time you arrested a domestic violence perp and charged him with 197 CRIMES ?????????????
Whats really sad is you dont even know what you are trolling about. This guy didnt stalk anyone, he had the domestic with his girlfriend and she had him locked up. ...you cant even troll properly, loser
Unless Officer Boyd was living with his girlfriend or they had a baby together, this was not a case of a police officer committing domestic violence crimes...I'm sure you know that but you chose to lie when defneding your brother officer.
Also, I understand SCPD Officer Boyd was indicted for allegedly committing 197 crimes against the woman he was stalking and harrassing....when is the last time you arrested a domestic violence perp and charged him with 197 CRIMES ?????????????any more from this troll? c'mon argue about something you dont know jack about some more, I know you are reading this.
any more from this troll? c'mon argue about something you dont know jack about some more, I know you are reading this.
Dork off, wigbo. My friend is on the NYPD, aka the real job and he told me about this guy doing 197 felanies, so I'm pretty sure he knows more than you real trolls, aka "police officers". So I do have a life and why don't you go get yours and get your stories straight and stop trying to protect your corrupt brother stalkers. LOL. Who's next biiiiaaaaatches??
ok jeff
05-22-2006, 09:05 AM
any more from this troll? c'mon argue about something you dont know jack about some more, I know you are reading this.
Dork off, wigbo. My friend is on the NYPD, aka the real job and he told me about this guy doing 197 felanies, so I'm pretty sure he knows more than you real trolls, aka "police officers". So I do have a life and why don't you go get yours and get your stories straight and stop trying to protect your corrupt brother stalkers. LOL. Who's next biiiiaaaaatches??
For starters it isnt ''the real job '' its the big job and the big job thing ended when we all started leaving 10 years ago, my neighbor's son is on nypd, he 1st applied in 94 and flunked the pysche, 2 dwis later they called him and asked if he was still interested in the job. So if the nypd is the big job, why are there 40,000 ''real cops'' lined up on a spring morning in suffolk with their rosaries praying they do well enough on our test to leave the nypd? Hell why are there 1000s of nypd officers lined up to take county corrections, deputy and village tests????
So if your friend told you about boyd doing 197 ''felanies'' you obviously are a troll. Boyd was charged w/ domestic menacing, not a felony
The cop charged with the 197 charges...not all felanies...lol.... was on the cover of newsday, not boyd....so if your buttbuddy told you boyd was charged w/197 charges he is almost as big a loser as you. So go find a different life because this one you are a jeff loser
Im not a buttboy, UR, you're your momma's buttboy! LOL!! So if U can't take the heat then get out of the oven! Its still the real jb to you since my friend arrests murderers every day while you go tto an alarm, so I think he knows what he's saying about any felanies and not you since you are frinds with this guy anyhow.
ok jeff
05-22-2006, 09:58 AM
Im not a buttboy, UR, you're your momma's buttboy! LOL!! So if U can't take the heat then get out of the oven! Its still the real jb to you since my friend arrests murderers every day while you go tto an alarm, so I think he knows what he's saying about any felanies and not you since you are frinds with this guy anyhow.Thats your friend, not you, my guess is any job is a real job to you, hows the cart collecting at pathmark going?
I worked in the city, its not all that chumly, I have more arrests out here than I ever did in the city, I think you should just concentrate on learning to spell, and get a life. Stop living your wet cop dreams thru your imaginary cop ''friend" and try learning your facts before you argue about something ok felany boy?
how about fell a knee...lol
me two
05-22-2006, 10:16 AM
yeah, eye now a frennd thats hast a fathur whos unkul is a palised. He woicks in da citi palises and he saiys kountiy koaps are knott reel palisye. he saids they are moor dummer than cyti kops becuz they dont hafe mani felanies.
Im not a buttboy, UR, you're your momma's buttboy! LOL!! So if U can't take the heat then get out of the oven! Its still the real jb to you since my friend arrests murderers every day while you go tto an alarm, so I think he knows what he's saying about any felanies and not you since you are frinds with this guy anyhow.you are a idiot po boyd wasnt arrested for 197 counts....check it out fool, since you are such a dimwit, I will post the article for you all you have to do is read it or have someone read and explain it to you..............................................
Cop accused of menacing girlfriend
A Suffolk County police officer was accused Friday of menacing his girlfriend, a misdemeanor, a spokesman for the department said.
William Boyd, 26, a patrol officer in the Fifth Precinct who has been on the force since September, was issued a criminal summons ordering him to appear in court on a future date, said Tim Motz.
Boyd is accused of threatening his girlfriend in a confrontation about 10 days ago, Motz said. The victim filed the complaint on Thursday. Motz said the department is also investigating the possibility that the officer also choked the victim.
Boyd has been assigned to limited duty pending the outcome of the investigation. He could not be reached for comment.
SEE SCMHUCK....
you are a idiot po boyd wasnt arrested for 197 counts....check it out fool, since you are such a dimwit, I will post the article for you all you have to do is read it or have someone read and explain it to you
I'll splain it...You dumb, you wrong, but keep arguing because badge bunnies like yourself who are stoopid are funny to read and bait into further stupidity
Dork off, wigbo. My friend is on the NYPD, aka the real job and he told me about this guy doing 197 felanies, so I'm pretty sure he knows more than you real trolls, aka "police officers". So I do have a life and why don't you go get yours and get your stories straight and stop trying to protect your corrupt brother stalkers. LOL. Who's next biiiiaaaaatches
You dont know any cops, you are just a troll, Let me tell you how I know. The city job is like the minor leagues for the jobs out here.
I took the test in 1999, after 13 years on in the city, in my academy class there was detectives, esu, sgts, iab, from the city all more than happy to come out here, to the real job, and for every one of us that made it there were 10 others who didnt, denied either because of their scores, their personal life, mistakes or pending litigation from the city job, if the city job was the big job still, why doesnt anyone want to work there? Probably because of the headhunters, horrible working conditions( not the streets, the supervisors) cruddy commute, and pay equal to a sanitation workers.
When I took the entrance exam there where dozens of the same, elite jobs and high ranking supervisors/ detectives, narcos, homicide, you name it. The guy sitting next to me was a sgt and he and copied from the guy sitting next to him a lt.
Im not a buttboy, UR, you're your momma's buttboy! LOL!! So if U can't take the heat then get out of the oven! Its still the real jb to you since my friend arrests murderers every day while you go tto an alarm, so I think he knows what he's saying about any felanies and not you since you are frinds with this guy anyhow.I'm not a cop but personally I'd define a ''real job'' as a job that I'm able to provide a comfortable life for my family as opposed to a job that I'd work in addition to 1-2 others just to make ends meet. I cannot see how a person commutes a few hours a day into the city and out to make a marginal salary
any more from this troll? c'mon argue about something you dont know jack about some more, I know you are reading this.
Dork off, wigbo. My friend is on the NYPD, aka the real job and he told me about this guy doing 197 felanies, so I'm pretty sure he knows more than you real trolls, aka "police officers". So I do have a life and why don't you go get yours and get your stories straight and stop trying to protect your corrupt brother stalkers. LOL. Who's next biiiiaaaaatches??dork off wigbo?? listen dick van dyck, go read the very 1st post of this thread, about officer boyd, and the menacing charge against him, then come back and troll some more about felanies, then go fellate your little nypd cop friend, if this is your life, and you just know one cop you are a lame ass illiterate(cannot read or spell) troll, then after your little real job boyfriend spews in your face clean yourself up and go play in traffic. And listen considering how much dirty laundry we've covered up for the nypd brothers living out here, and how many times they still screw up....po Volpe comes to mind... dont even go there.
dork off wigbo
05-22-2006, 04:46 PM
Hey do you realize how many people would consider you more intelligent if you;
A. spelled felony correctly in your 1st post.
B. After being ridiculed for your bad grammar if you got a clue and perhaps cracked open a dictionary and spelled it correctly in your second post. Perhaps it would be looked at as a simple typo...
You are a English teachers nightmare, no doubt Mr Fusco held you after school many days for remedial spelling and grammar(on your knees boy..lol)
murdererererer?
defneding?
frinds ?
jb?
please continue to post we need to hear your moronisms.
I worked in the city, its not all that chumly, I have more arrests out here than I ever did in the city,
How many of your arrests in SCPD are for felonies or photographable offenses?
I am told that when a SCPD cop issues a summons for a violation that their department consider this an arrest. I am also told when a city cop issues a summons for a violation the NYPD DOES NOT consider that an arrest.
Could this be the reason you have more arrests in SCPD...or does it have to do with the huge amount of overtime money a SCPD cop makes when processing a mutt for having a suspended license or possessing drugs?
Rinkled 4 Skin
05-23-2006, 09:08 AM
I am told that when a SCPD cop issues a summons for a violation that their department consider this an arrest. I am also told when a city cop issues a summons for a violation the NYPD DOES NOT consider that an arrest.
Have you ever been told, "swallow my man-cheese, ballboy?" Really? No, a summons has NEVER been considered an arrest by the SCPD.
I worked in the city, its not all that chumly, I have more arrests out here than I ever did in the city,
How many of your arrests in SCPD are for felonies or photographable offenses?
I am told that when a SCPD cop issues a summons for a violation that their department consider this an arrest. I am also told when a city cop issues a summons for a violation the NYPD DOES NOT consider that an arrest.
Could this be the reason you have more arrests in SCPD...or does it have to do with the huge amount of overtime money a SCPD cop makes when processing a mutt for having a suspended license or possessing drugs?
Without going into details last year I had over 70 arrests in patrol, the 4 years prior over 50, I have never arrested anyone for agg unlicensed, unless it was a felony, I have charged perps driving a stolen vehicle or dwi with it instead of writing another summons,depending on what I needed stat wise for the month.
I'm guessing 20 felonies a year, not including domestics, minimum 2-3 gun collars, 4-5 stolen vehicles, I do not even lead my pct, just my squad. The big difference out here, it is the norm to do felony car stops alone as opposed to having every officer in the grid on the call, just too time consuming waiting for the guy next to you 4 miles away to show up.
There are instances when a summons is issued for a violation other than vtl, say a upm that is a ''stat'', of course in the city the upm would become a cpm, a misdemeanor, likewise the harassment would become a menacing or assault 3, or the leaving scene mva property damage would be lsmva with injuries, so its really no difference, its how you write it, the city everything became a misdemeanor or it wasnt prosecuted, out here we dont have to ''embellish'' to arrest someone.
I feel we have more arrests out here because we have less cops and the ratio of cops to civilians is lower than the city.
As far as the huge amount of overtime, most arrests can be done within a hour or so, a dwi 2, its not like the city, its a lot quicker.
both sides of the fence.
05-23-2006, 10:35 AM
I worked in the city, its not all that chumly, I have more arrests out here than I ever did in the city,
How many of your arrests in SCPD are for felonies or photographable offenses?
I am told that when a SCPD cop issues a summons for a violation that their department consider this an arrest. I am also told when a city cop issues a summons for a violation the NYPD DOES NOT consider that an arrest.
Could this be the reason you have more arrests in SCPD...or does it have to do with the huge amount of overtime money a SCPD cop makes when processing a mutt for having a suspended license or possessing drugs?
Why would you write this unless you were completely insecure in yourself, arrests dont make you a cop.So this guy works harder out here than he did in the city, big deal. Grow up.
You have more arrests out there because you are encouraged to do so by your supervisors. Because you do not get jammed up for doing more than the minimum.
A summons written for a misdemeanor unless accompanied by arrest paperwork is just a summons in Suffolk, there are very few violations that are arrestable offenses in Suffolk, leaving the scene and unlawful pos. of pot do come to mind. It is common practice in the city if you are going to do anything w/ pot to make it crim pos. of marijuana, in example public view...
agg unlicensed arrests are done mostly by commands other than patrol,out here, cope and all that garbage.
Funny, though in the city where I worked it was a mandatory arrest for 2nd degree agg unlicensed, out here in patrol, if you are in a car it is somewhat frowned upon. In fact I know many of my city brothers who made sure at least 7-8 arrests a year were 511.2, in the city. Out here we just write the summons and no its not considered a arrest, just a tag.
Court Officer
05-23-2006, 11:07 AM
I know that Suffolk PD pulls an arrest number for every arrest that goes through District Court done by other agencies because the court uses Suffolk PD as a court laison and requires all police agencies to submit their arrest paperwork to the liason office. PD liason then pulls a Suffolk PD arrest number prior to submitting the paperwork to the clerk. Suffolk PD also pulls multiple arrest numbers for seperate charges on the same arrest. For example: one perp with a 215.50 warrant, a harassment, and a barking dog warrant will be three arrest numbers instead of one. That is how the arrest numbers appear to be high.
78th to suffolk
05-23-2006, 12:01 PM
I know that Suffolk PD pulls an arrest number for every arrest that goes through District Court done by other agencies because the court uses Suffolk PD as a court laison and requires all police agencies to submit their arrest paperwork to the liason office. PD liason then pulls a Suffolk PD arrest number prior to submitting the paperwork to the clerk. Suffolk PD also pulls multiple arrest numbers for seperate charges on the same arrest. For example: one perp with a 215.50 warrant, a harassment, and a barking dog warrant will be three arrest numbers instead of one. That is how the arrest numbers appear to be high.
Those are 3 seperate incidents<city would work it the same way>if we'd even took this guy>warrant for 215.50 means he was arrested for 215.50 or committed 215.50 and either failed to appear or wasnt arrested(bench or arrest warrant) thena harassment charge, then a fail to appear for a barking dog ordinance.
The liasion has nothing to do with the #s of a street cop. All agencies do the same lets say I got a foa warrant from riverhead process him and turn him over to riverhead pd, now they do the exact same thing, assign arrest # etc etc.
The difference between the city and the county jobs is simple. The city is about not doing anything so you get thru the day without getting banged for something, its about 20 and out.You worry every car stop or simple domestic that this complaint will be the one. The county WANTS you to be a cop, and to be active and they reward you for doing so. Thats why the city isnt the real job anymore, they dont take care of their cops. When I was in the city, if I found a agg unlicen.II that was my body for the month, then I could write up domestic violations and not have to worry about getting jammed up on them. Out here 511s are a joke, I just write them. I know there are dozens of calls I'm going to every month that I can get my bodies for.
Bunch o' creamed analcorn
05-23-2006, 01:48 PM
The difference between the city and the county jobs is simple. ... The county WANTS you to be a cop, and to be active and they reward you for doing so.
Not anymore, pally wally.
The difference between the city and the county jobs is simple. ... The county WANTS you to be a cop, and to be active and they reward you for doing so.
Not anymore, pally wally.
You are right there, the changes are coming, shockingly similiar to how the city changed.
I know that Suffolk PD pulls an arrest number for every arrest that goes through District Court done by other agencies because the court uses Suffolk PD as a court laison and requires all police agencies to submit their arrest paperwork to the liason office. PD liason then pulls a Suffolk PD arrest number prior to submitting the paperwork to the clerk. Suffolk PD also pulls multiple arrest numbers for seperate charges on the same arrest. For example: one perp with a 215.50 warrant, a harassment, and a barking dog warrant will be three arrest numbers instead of one. That is how the arrest numbers appear to be high.Those are 3 separate arrests . Contempt charge is just that, a harassment charge is just that and a warrant is just that. Unless the defendant had a order stating his dog's barking was in fact annoying harassing etc...then it would just be a crim contempt.
Every pd will put its own arrest# on outside agency's p/w..how else are they going to enter it into its system? You cannot enter a head of harbor/huntington harbor arrest into scpd system. It dont work. That is obvious and has nothing to do with the issue of arrests done by cops in the city compared to suffolk.
Just to clarify. Let's say a Deputy Sheriff makes an arrest and the body goes to District. The paperwork now has to go to PD liason. Liason now pulls an arrest number even though the PD had nothing to do with the arrest. That's why when you run CJIS you sometimes see subjects with arrest numbers and no corresponding information on the arrest. As far as the PD pulling three seperate arrest numbers for the one arrest. It may be three seperate charges but it is all part of the same arrest and pulling three arrest numbers is for the sole purpose of padding stats.
Just to clarify. Let's say a Deputy Sheriff makes an arrest and the body goes to District. The paperwork now has to go to PD liason. Liason now pulls an arrest number even though the PD had nothing to do with the arrest. That's why when you run CJIS you sometimes see subjects with arrest numbers and no corresponding information on the arrest. As far as the PD pulling three seperate arrest numbers for the one arrest. It may be three seperate charges but it is all part of the same arrest and pulling three arrest numbers is for the sole purpose of padding stats.
Yes we understood the 1st time. It is a common practice in every court that processes outside arrests and has nothing to do with the conversation.
As far as the arrest w/ 3 charges, those are 3 separate incidents that occurred on 3 separate dates or had 3 seperate victims/complaintants,1 violation of a order of protection,2 then a harassment, if it was the same incident, then there would be 2 violations and 3 a barking dog warrant. The 1st 2 would have 2 separate criminal reports/investigations, one for a violation of a order, 215.5, then one for a harassment 240.26. The 3rd would be a local ordinance summons, so yes it is one arrest but 3 separate criminal incidents. All of which had already been entered into court, separately.
If I arrested someone with 5 warrants 1 for a larceny, 1 for a burg, 1 for a assault, 1 for a dwi and 1 for cpsp, there would be 5 separate complaints, 5 separate investigations,and in theory 5 separate criminal trials.
Padding stats would be charging someone whos dwi driving 511 in a reckless manner while in posession of marijuana 4 separate court informations, by pulling 4 separate complaint #s and doing 4 separate arrest papwerworks.
Frankly, if you think scpd was the 1st to do this or its something new, you must be wet behind the ears, my pop retired from nypd in 1970 and he was taught by his 1st partner who retired in 1959 how to pad stats nypd style.
blah blah blah
05-24-2006, 02:41 PM
Just to clarify. Let's say a Deputy Sheriff makes an arrest and the body goes to District. The paperwork now has to go to PD liason. Liason now pulls an arrest number even though the PD had nothing to do with the arrest. That's why when you run CJIS you sometimes see subjects with arrest numbers and no corresponding information on the arrest. As far as the PD pulling three seperate arrest numbers for the one arrest. It may be three seperate charges but it is all part of the same arrest and pulling three arrest numbers is for the sole purpose of padding stats.Who cares? Its a dumb point. The issue was scpd patrol officer stating hes more active out here than in the city. If hes making 70 arrests, and banging 2 charges with separate complaint #s on each perp, hes still making 35 arrests, I worked in the city for 20 years, outside of the years in truancy, and other spcial details...I never had more than 10 bodies a year.
The point with what the paper pushers are doing in court? Who cares nothing to do with the issue. We are talking about arrests, in patrol by cops, not how many paperclips are needed in County court as opposed to Village or Supreme, or how many copies of summonses does nassau's traffic court make as opposed to suffolk.
Every polcie dept will either inflate their stats or deflate them example making a burg into a larceny, depending on what they are trying to do. Its all part of the game, its been going on since there were stats.
As far as the PD pulling three seperate arrest numbers for the one arrest. It may be three seperate charges but it is all part of the same arrest and pulling three arrest numbers is for the sole purpose of padding stats.
The 3 arrest #s were already pulled, 1 for the 215.50 warrant which is either a arrest warrant, for a incident that just occurred, or a bench warrant, for a old arrest.
2nd for a incident that resulted in a harassment charge
3rd for a incident that resulted in a simplified information, a universal utt was issued in place of arrest.
Its not padding stats, these are I assume 3 separate incidents, that occurred either at different times,place or to different victims, otherwise it would be all one charge. They therefore have 3 separate arrest worksheets/informations, and cannot just be combined. It dont work. If the violated order was against his wife, the harassment charge against his boyfriend and the barking dog summons could not possibly be combined into one arrest package.
Are you sure you are a Court officer? It sounds like you have a small amount of knowledge of how the pd's paperwork is processed, but so do the guys with the 2 warrants and a harassment charge.
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