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Pollster
01-30-2003, 05:42 AM
Rick Brand reports in today's Newsday that Karen Murphy denies reports of Mondello's intervention in the dispute between the Clerk's office and the Assessors office over record data transmission.
Murphy denies the report saying that "The Chairman (Mondello) does not interfere in government operations at all".
Perhaps she ought to speak to Kate Murray, who expressed her heartfelt warmest thanks and utterly deep appreciation for installing her as the Supervisor of the Town of Hempstead.
Or, perhaps she'd like to speak to Donald X. Clavin, similarly thankful to the Chairman for putting him in his goverment operations post.
Or, perhaps she'd like to speak to any one of four out of five Republicans on the Town Board who got the opportunity to manage government operations based on the actions of....yes, him again.
Karen Murphy must be smoking some of that funny weed. Either that or she's just plain old too stupid for the office she holds.
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The MOle
01-30-2003, 09:40 AM
An independent consultant to the County sent a memo to Karen Murphy last week (and to Tom Suozzi, and to Charlie O'Shea and to Howard Weitzman and NIFA and to Judge Winslow and to every single Legislator and to the Board of Assessors and to the County Attorney's office) which advised that Murphy's failure and/or inability to produce property sale records in a usable form, was jeopardizing the entire reassessment process and was going to cost the County more than a half million dollars. In no uncertain terms, the Consultant warned that Murphy's inactions will make it almost impossible to comply with the Court Order which requires it to revalue properties next year based upon updated sale information.
Yet against this backdrop, the Boss wants Charlie and Karen to kiss and make up for the sake of party unity and to avoid Political Repercussions. Screw Party unity - we're talking about the County's fiscal health and people's tax dollars. If Murphy can't produce, then O'Shea is obligated as an elected official to speak out and expose her shortcomings. If he keeps quiet because the Boss told him to, then he is a little toad who deserves to lose in November. Where are the man's b*lls?
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An Avid Reader
01-30-2003, 11:00 AM
I remember reading Cheaper by the Dozen, when I was a kid, and when anyone in that family needed to use the bathroom, they would use the phrase "I have to visit Mrs. Murphy" It sounds like Mrs. Murphy and perhaps, Mr. O'Shea are now visiting us.
Sunrise
01-30-2003, 12:27 PM
i understand Karen and Charlie are back on the same page thanks to Frank Zarb and NIFA. Heard there was a meeting at Hofstra today and that everything has been resolved. Damm! Its always interesting when Nassau republicans fight.
blue bldg insider
01-30-2003, 01:38 PM
The Clerk shut down access to the County Clerk's system due to "security breeches". Did the investigators ever resolve who was playing with the County Clerk's records (FROM THE 4TH FLOOR) after office hours??? Maybe the people :"> making the most noise about this mess are the ones who created it?!?!?!
iamfair
01-30-2003, 03:56 PM
to pollster do think dems thank their chairman when they are sworn in ? the answer is yes . you people are so biased you don't even realize it.
The MOle
01-30-2003, 06:38 PM
Thanks. Go Rams.
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The MOle
01-31-2003, 02:27 AM
I was at Suozzi's swearing in (I guess that narrows my identity down to 1 of 2500). Jacobs was thanked as were dozens of others. The big difference here were 2. First, Suozzi chose Jacobs - whereas Mondello chooses the candidates (apparently single-handedly) and Second, Jacobs was a guest and sat in the audience - much to everyone's surprise. Unlike, Mondello - Jacobs did not find it necessary to mix politics with an important Government function.
While dems who have been supported by Jacobs (financially and otherwise) should thank him when being sworn in, there is a big difference between thanking someone, and allowing them to intrude into purely governmental affairs and functions.
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Pollster
01-31-2003, 05:31 AM
Apparently, I spoke too soon. The O'Shea Murphy Feud hasn't subsided, in fact it has escalated! I love it when the GOP eats themselves up in public, don't you?
As to Mondello's involvement in governmental affairs.
In the waining weeks of the GOP's power in N. Hempstead the majority caucus routinely met at 164 Post Ave to hammer out policy matters and political disputes - in violation of the the State's Open Meetings Law. Look where it got them.
Oyster Bay continues to do it as well as Hempsteads. One has a bare majority in Town Government, the other has serious internal problems to boot.
I say, get Mondello involved even more.
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truthbetold
01-31-2003, 06:02 AM
I assume that you were party to those caucuses at Republican HQ in those days, right? Did you speak out against them then, or were you silently acquiescent?
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Pollster
01-31-2003, 08:18 AM
Actually, you are incorrect.
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The MOle
01-31-2003, 12:10 PM
If Newsday is to be believed, O'Shea had no comment about Murphy's sabotaging the reassessment and costing the County $3,000,000. I guess for the sake of party unity, he lost his intestinal fortitued. A true pillar of the community that Charlie O'Shea.
Now on to Murphy, in the year 2003 for her to claim that she is entitled to provide paper records to the County Assessor's office is absolute hypocrisy. She should be replaced. I wonder who Mondello would put in her stead.
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Spotlight
01-31-2003, 01:15 PM
Pollster, you happiness to recent events is what bothers me.
Stupid infighting by these two officials does nothing but hurt both, and could spread to others.
Pollster actually realizes this potential for trouble. Someone should tell Charlie to put a sock in it.
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The MOle
01-31-2003, 01:49 PM
I lean Dem, but I generally split my ticket, and I can't believe that I voted for this clown.
Not only should O'Shea not put a "sock in it", but he needs to stand up for the people that he purportedly represents and make sure that his buddy Karen Murphy doesn't cost the County millions.
Never again.
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Spotlight
02-01-2003, 06:13 AM
My Yiddish is not particularly good, but I think Mensch means a nice passive friendly guy. I don't think that describes O'Shea's personality or his conduct in the face of the pressure exerted upon him by Mondello (in the sake of party unity) or in light of the attacks of Karen Murphy. Of the dozen or so Yiddish words I know, the only one which is applicable and does not mean male genitalia, is schlemiel, which I believe is a hapless fellow.
You are absolutely right though about O'Shea not needing to take crap from either Mondello or Murphy. He has a law degree (Fordham I think) and family money, and unlike most machine candidates/officials he probably could earn more money in the private sector.
Thus his failure to speak up and assail what is going one, and perhaps distinguish himself, means only one thing. They got something on him, and its embarassing.
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In German, a language substantially related to Yiddish, "Mensch" means person. My understanding of Mensch is more in line with the expression "Stand Up Guy," a term which means different things to different people. But, you understand my point. I am a firm believer in the idea that you do the job and make choices that you can live with.
What amazes me about this whole debacle is the Clerk's inability to follow the simple instructions of a Supreme Court Justice. As the Clerk of record for the Supreme Court of Nassau County, her failure to comply with Justice Winslow's Order is a complete dereliction of her duty to the Office of County Clerk. I find it surprising frankly that Newsday has not driven that point home.
Perhaps, County Clerk's Offices throughout New York should be merged with the Office of Court Administration and the elected clerkship should be eliminated entirely.
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yes, and like the County Executive and yours truly, Mr. O'Shea is a graduate of Fordham Law School.
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The MOle
02-01-2003, 01:42 PM
You raise an interesting point. The rumor at 240 is that the Company Murphy hired to do the IT work (Brown something) is unable to produce the records as ordered by Winslow and as required by other Departments in the County, and that Murphy is unable to criticize that company because of a family connection, and O'Shea is playing nice. Now, I don't know if its true, and I don't have any first hand knowledge, but I heard it from 2 different sources - neither of which heard it from the other. If its true, then someone has a lot of splaining to do. AGAIN, this is wholly unsubstantiated, but it would explaint ther red or pink wall of silence.
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ontheinside
02-02-2003, 01:53 PM
Lets be Frank...the Chief Deputy and her husband were running their real estate business out of O'Shea's office. Karen got wind of it and went bonkers...this is why
she shut down Charlie's access to records. Why this
hasn't resulted in an arrest by the DA is beyond anyone who knows the story (like the whole Dept of Assmt).
By the way how can Sasso live in Islip ? Doesn't her
position call for Nassau residency? (The Freeport address is a phoney!)
SiNick
02-02-2003, 03:14 PM
I have a hard time believing the above post. If it was true, then it would have become public already, and O'Shea would not be the GOP candidate. If you have a source for your information, then a call to either Newsday or One West would certainly end, with the desired results.
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Lets be frank, I have trouble following your argument. Ms. Murphy "went bonkers" after she discovered some improprieties at the Board of Assessors. Upon discovery of these improprieties she unilaterally shut down her data base? Is that her story now? Did Ms. Murphy bother to address her concerns to the District Attorney or Justice Winslow before unilaterally suspending her operation and ignoring an Order of the Supreme Court of the State of New York? I am genuinely trying to understand this. And do we really want public officials who "go bonkers" like this?
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On The Inside2
02-02-2003, 05:52 PM
There are so many people with Union protection working in the Department of Assessment who would love to see Deputy No.1 removed as their supervisor, that if On the Inside's story was correct, they would have called the DA in a heartbeat. On the other hand, Deputy No.1's husband spends a lot of time in the Department, but I think that's because he raises money for O'Shea's campaign.
martys
02-04-2003, 04:06 PM
they should both be on the next Family Feud with their staffs.
The MOle
02-06-2003, 09:04 AM
The feud is about to turn real ugly. O'Shea is plotting revenge for Murphy's leaking the story about his staff's activities.
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02-06-2003, 04:14 PM
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Addition by subtraction... one step at a time.
The MOle
02-06-2003, 05:07 PM
red pumps.
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blue bldg insider
02-07-2003, 01:25 PM
Which one is that? ?
the one with the red pumps is clearly O'Shea.
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The MOle
02-07-2003, 06:55 PM
I knew that at least a few of you would understand the humor in my little wager. So are there any takers?
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ontheinside
02-08-2003, 06:36 AM
The REAL question is why does someone who is NOT a county employee have so much access to Charlie's Office? Sasso does MORE than raise $..... This is not a topic which is going away anytime soon.....
islipgop
02-08-2003, 06:42 AM
Your assessor does live here in Islip....same complex as some your fellow Islip GOP'ers....Soo what's the big deal?
blue bldg insider
02-08-2003, 02:55 PM
Not only does Lou Sasso(or SAYSO, as employees refer to him)have complete access to chucky's office, but I hear promoted employees of Assessment were adviced to visit Mr SAYSO in his basement office and express their thanks to him!!!!!!!!Who voted for him, besides Oshea?!?!
On The Floor
02-09-2003, 12:38 PM
He visits every one who gets a promotion and shakes their hand, making it appear that HE was responsible for their promotion/raise and that they owe him. Probably not illegal but very very close.
enough is enough -- a guy in management shakes someone's hand for a job well done or for a promotion -- give it a rest.... only a truly perverted mind can find ill will in such gesture.
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On The Floor
02-09-2003, 04:18 PM
You're absolutely right. If someone in management shakes an employees hand after he receives a promotion or a raise, there is nothing wrong. It's actually quite a nice gesture and there can be nothing wrong with that gesture (unless of course the person in management was Al D'Amato circa 1978 but that's another story.
In this case the person walking around shaking hands is Lou Sasso - the husand of Charlie O'Shea's chief deputy - who makes personnel decisions. Not only is Lou Sasso not employed by the County in management, but he is Chairman O'Shea's chief fundraiser. It doesn't take a perverted mind to realize that 2 and 2 makes donation.
I agree with a prevous poster that this is a story worth followup. Where's Newsday when you need it.
I still do not get it. At best, you made a case that Sasso is to O'Shea what Col. House was to Woodrow Wilson. He shook some hands.
If you think there is a problem, and you can prove a quid pro quo "contributions for jobs" scheme of some kind, call the District Attorney's Special Investigations Unit. Or contact mr. Levinson. These individuals will preserve your anonymity. That is the proper thing to do if you are a government employee in this situation.
If anything, posting your complaints on the web only serves to alert the "target" that you someone within the 240 Old Country Road Complex who is making some very serious charges.
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On The Floor
02-10-2003, 04:57 AM
"If anything, posting your complaints on the web only serves to alert the "target" that you someone within the 240 Old Country Road Complex who is making some very serious charges."
Good, then maybe they'll stop.
ontheinside
02-12-2003, 09:27 AM
The problem with Charlie and the Sasso's are they think they are TOO smart to get caught...but there time is running out. What's amazing is the Chairman is well aware of whats going on - the real question is why isnt he putting a stop to it....follow the $$$$$$$$$...
Mugwump
02-13-2003, 12:25 PM
I think that's just a bit naive, DT. Go to the DA? Dillon, you mean? Can you think of one time in the past, I don't know, 25 years, that Dillon has gotten involved in a major, or even a minor, corruption investigation?
The analogy would be someone going to one of our fellow alumni, now of happy memory, John Mitchell, and telling him about a political burglary. Somehow, I don't think there would be much action, do you?
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Mugwump
02-13-2003, 03:08 PM
dillon was trying to prosecute roosevelt leader robert francis who worked at planning and economic development in hempstead..he was aquitted after Lynbrook executive leader robert Becker set up a defense fund for francis...later on francis rewarded his nephew Greg Becker with a $ 90,000 a year job at planning and development after Becker got his rear end whipped by Mccarthy.....francis was accused of using town workers to do work on his home
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