Suozzi's demanding money from elderly widows and widowers

[older and wiser]

GRAY MATTERS

Latest hardship: county's dunning letter
Saul Friedman





July 17, 2004

Nicholas M. cared for his invalid wife, Maria, at home until her death two years ago. But rather than spend his life savings on her care, he applied for Medicaid. Now Nicholas, 81, a retired airline maintenance worker from Williston Park, is dying of Alzheimer's disease and his son is using his father's savings for round-the-clock care.

But Nassau County is demanding payment of $197,000 that Medicaid spent on Maria.

And Nicholas isn't alone. Once again, the lack of a sane national long-term care policy and the shortsightedness of Nassau County's bureaucrats are driving scores of elderly widows and widowers to panic over the possible loss of their life savings. Yet the county, which has launched such efforts before, stands to gain next to nothing.

Under federal and state law, husbands or wives have the right to refuse to pay for their spouses' long-term care costs, under Medicaid, in order to protect their own financial security, support themselves, and remain in their homes. The law recognizes that right and prescribes the allowable income and assets the "community spouse" (the one who remains well and at home) may keep, although it gives the state the right to sue for part of what Medicaid paid if that spouse keeps more than is allowed.

Beginning last month, the county's Department of Social Services sent out scores of letters to men and women demanding repayment of thousands of dollars spent on their spouses, now dead, who were cared for at home or in a nursing home under Medicaid.

The grounds: The community spouses had assets and income beyond the allowable amount at the time their sick spouses applied for Medicaid. But in the metropolitan area, how much is enough to last the community spouse a lifetime while nursing a loved one at home or living alone waiting for him or her to die in a nursing home? Under present law, if the spouse is in a nursing home, the community spouse is entitled to keep half the couple's assets up to $92,760 and a monthly income of $2,319. But if the assets cannot generate the allowable income, or what is needed to last a lifetime, the spouse may file a refusal and turn the excess of $92,760 into income. The rules are far less generous for Medicaid home care. The Medicaid beneficiary had to help pay for her care, and in 1999 Nicholas would have been allowed to retain only $5,150 in resources ($5,600 today), to last the rest of his life, plus $650 or so in monthly income. Nicholas had more in savings but understandably declined to give up everything.

In the letter Nicholas received but was unable to understand, the Nassau County Department of Social Services gave him 10 days to reply, pay up or seek a settlement.

Elderlawyer Vincent Russo of Westbury said at least two dozen surviving spouses had reported receiving similar letters, and estimated perhaps 100 had been sent out. His advice: Don't be intimidated into paying or even seeking a settlement.

Elderlawyer Ronald Fatoullah of Great Neck said, "The county is even contacting the community spouses years after the death of the recipient spouse. And the county is being mean-spirited in going after spouses in home care cases who are permitted to keep very few assets, as well as nursing home cases." New York City declined to pursue home care cases, and generally went after the wealthiest spouses.

Fatoullah questioned whether the county has authority to sue, since Medicaid is a federal program administered by the state. He advised families who received threatening letters from Nassau County to check first whether the community spouse did, indeed, file a spousal refusal letter. Without a refusal, the county may have no case.

One defense, Fatoullah said, is to assert that the community spouse no longer has the assets to repay the debt and needs all his/her remaining savings to meet present income needs. "I am confident that the county would not consider pursuing a spouse who needs all her assets to meet basic expenses, even if the assets exceed the recourse allowance."

A county spokeswoman ind- icated it is prepared to negotiate and take into account changed financial circumstances: "Information is updated from time to time and fluctuations will affect liability for ongoing support of the spouse [on Medicaid]."

Fatoullah said that the county has often settled cases "at a significant discount." It's necessary to retain an elderlawyer who knows Medicaid law to defend against county threats. More important, spouses applying for Medicaid on behalf of a loved one should seek advice on methods, such as annuities, to hold on to assets they need to support themselves.

The county won't say how many letters it sent out or how much money could be recovered. I doubt it's much because Ellen Rosenzweig, an attorney with Hunter College's Brookdale Center on Aging, observes that because the county pays only 10 percent of the Medicaid bills, it may keep only a tenth of what it recovers, minus legal costs. Is it worth it?

[The Sherminator]

the politically unenlightened stench of Tom Suozzi (old people vote big time, this issue alone could cost him a tight election)

The putrid smell of the retarded Robert "Verim" Sherman

and the savvy judgment of Lorna Bade Goodman, along with the corporate counsel fools who can't shoot straight.

[Rev Slappy]

Bob sherman is perhaps the worst social services Commissioner that has ever run the Nassau County DSS. Nobody in that department understands Medicaid Law. Additionally Lorna "Doone" Goodman couldn't care less about addressing this problem. As with so many other issues, she is nowhere to be found. There is a fundamental misunderstanding on the way Medicaid lein enforcement should be done. Many Social Service Departments hold Nassau DSS up as an example of what not to do. Dont be suprised if someone brings a federal lawsuit against the department to stop them from doing what they are doing.

YOU CANNOT COLLECT UNRELATED MEDICAL EXPENSES!
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Ford Del Rio (http://www.ford-wiki.com/wiki/Ford_Del_Rio)

[Budget Office]

its all about revenue. elderly residents beware- the Suozzi administration will try to take everything.

[And that's not all]

Suozzi admin threatening to sue elderly people who lost their spouses. How much lower can Suozzi go? Stay tuned.

[Raising the rents]

Just raised rents again 4% and 6 % for the folks living under 1 and 2 year leases under the Emergency Tenant Protection Act. Last year they raised them 5% and 8%. For some of those people they saw an increase in their rent 15% under Suozzi.

[The commissioner didn't c]

Sherman the Vermin has his useless head so far up Tommy Boys butthole that he'll never see the light of day for the remainder of his life. Sherman the Vermin is a shill for Tommy Boy. He's a disgrace to the Republican party. When Tommy Boy says jump Sherman the Vermin asks "how high". Sherman the Vermin has no place to being running such a complicated agency as Social Services. Sherman the Vermin would best be suited to replacing the toilet paper in the bathroom stalls at any number of county agencies just so long as it isn't at Social Services

[Truth was said]

that he's caused us by putting us to work at menial jobs for nominal pay while shafting the civil service workers to boot.

[in sickness and in health]

I applaud Tom and Bob for going after these wealthy tax cheats. Sorry folks, Medicaid was created by the federal government with the intention of assisting poor people. It was never meant for middle or upper class people to avoid paying for their own medical care. Nursing Home care is medical care.
I would also like to point out that spousal refusal is not a right under federal law. Federal law doesnt allow for spousal refusal. NYS unfortunately has a loophole in state law that allows for this gimmick. Whatever happened to in sickness and in health. I am tired of the wealthy in this country using loopholes to escape the spirit of the law.
I am tired of the wealthy going to an elder law attorney so that they can shield or hide their assets while they use my tax money to pay for care they should have paid for. Medicaid is the fastest growing portion of the state and county budgets. I am tired of being taxed to death.

[Wait until you get sick]

Or are you already demented? So you are saying that someone who worked hard their entire life and who has a spouse who then gets alzheimers or gets taken out by MS or cancer should become bankrupt and homeless to pay for nursing home care assistance? It should happen to you. MEDICAID is high because of all the illegal immigrants that come into this country and get free medical care, that we (including the poor schlub YOU want to throw to the wolves) pay for. It's high because of all the DRUGGIES who get free needles, and free methodone, and free transportation back and forth to get the needles and the methodone while we support that. Please. Stop showing your ignorance. What do you think will happen to the old lady who bankrupts herself? She's going on welfare you fool - and we'll have to support both of them then. And the North Shore Wealthy - like Suozzi and his million dollar house - THOSE people - honey, they are NOT accepting medicaid because they wouldn't use the doctors or the facilities that medicaid pays for. They are using the snooting places that don't accept medicaid. Next time you post your opinion - why don't you think about it or learn something about the topic first.

[Dump Suozzi NOW!]

I want that money. Look at all the illegal immigrants that are living of our tax money. You don't care about that rip off do you Tom,you got to go.

[No respect for his elders]

The first thing Suozzi did when he came to town is push out all the older workers and he's still pushing - he won't be satisfied until there is nobody left working in the county with any experience in the county. Push them out of jobs, raises their taxes, go after them for medicaid, offer them back seasonal jobs at a fraction of what they used to earn, take away their nursing home and their hospital, deny them flu shots, import their medical equipment from other counties then fight with Albany putting Nassau County last on list for any relief for health care and housing costs. He loves the old people almost as much as he loves the poor people, slightly above his disdain for the middle class.

[Gulotta v. Suozzi]

Newsday wants to do a comparison analysis does it? Well, how about starting here. Under Gulotta if a middle income community spouse had assets but her nursing home spouse received medicaid, he put a lien on the assets and let the old people live out their lives. Resources and Recovery then came in and enforced their medicaid lien with what was left from the estate. Gulotta people the welfare of his people first. The republicans did a damned good job with responsible fiscal management until the lawsuit came in declaring the county assessment process to be unfair - and that's what sank the county. The republicans did take the butter off the people's bread to pay for a bloated spending spree but Suozzi did. Suozzi went after the old lady while she was still alive, trying to take every last dime from her. There's your comparative analysis. Suozzi spends like a drunken salary, and raised property taxes more than 20% in the face of the new assessment and basically took the butter and the bread away from his constituents so he claim fiscal recovery. Fiscal recovery. At what cost?

[nassau anonymous]

whew some of you sound like bob grant that old windbag

guess what folks i do know a thing or two about medicaid law and
there is no provision under federal law that allows spousal refusal. The state doesn't allow for it either but, if a spouse refuses to care for their partner, the state will pay until such time the local dept of social services sue for the money. I don't know who told you that spousal refusal is legal - name that regulation number - i would love to see it. When someone gets married, they are legally responsible for each other - remember in sickness and in health.
Medicaid was created to provide medical care for the poor - NOT the middle or upper class who go to an eldercare attorney and make themselves poor on paper. You sound very bitter - got cheated out of your inheritance???
I don't know what has gotten into people. Yes Nassau only pays ~10% of the Nursing Home / Long Term Care bills. The state and feds pick up the rest. But guess who's money they are using to do it - the taxpayers!!! I don't get it. Suozzi and Sherman are trying to save your hard earned tax dollars. They are trying to balance the budget without digging into Nassau county taxpayers pockets. And for this you are angry?
A typical nursing home charges ~ $10,000 a month to medicaid.
10% of $10,000 is $1,000 per month. Multiply that by all the people in Nursing Homes in Nassau county in receipt of Medicaid.
The cost is staggering. This portion of the Medicaid budget is the fastest growing sector - Not the illegals or the druggies. And guess what, that person in Suffolk or NYC or Westchester etc.., you are paying their bills too out of your taxes - the state and federal portion.
A married couple is able to retain ~ $100,000 in the bank. They can keep more that $2,000 a month in income. Medicaid doesn't go after the house as long as the spouse remains in the house.
Remember, senior citizens get tax breaks on their property. Chances are good that their mortgage is paid off. Is it justifiable to allow the refusing spouse enough money to travel, by a new car
or ensure that the children are left an inheritance on the back of the taxpayers. I don't think so. Again, Medicaid was created for poor people not the middle or upper class.

[The idiot's back]

You only think you know about the law. You appear to be illiterate, young, hate your parents and have a vendetta against DSS. If you bothered to read the other posts you'd see that just about every point you tried to make was obliterated. It's about humanity idiot and it's three times as expensive to disallow the spousal refusal law than it is to permit it because then you'd have at least two people, perhaps entire families on the welfare role. If you knew anything at all you'd know that spousal refusals are judicial law - judge made FEDERAL and STATE caselaw. It's old, old news which apparently, you are too young to remember all the news and too stupid to be able to research it. RICH people do not use medicaid facilities - they have full time home health aids and if they want to dump their sick elders, they use very expensive facilities that do not accept medicaid. All Spousal refusal means is that it DEFERS the actual reimbursements until after the healthy wife/husband dies. It prevents them from becoming impoverished during their lifetime while their sick spouse is being cared for. It is not a free pass. It is a LIEN. When they die, the old Nassau County then exercised on the lien. If these people were rich, like you seem so fearful of, there will be plenty left. The new Nassau County is filled with imbeciles like you who want to bleed people dry. Imagine having to deal with a husband who has alzheimer's and MS when you are yourself in your 70's, 80's and then you get sued by the government who wants to take your financial security away. Please. You should be ashamed of yourself. You want to do some good? Go after Medicaid FRAUD - that's right - hunt down the doctors, the medical suppliers, the home health care workers double billing the system, go after the illegals, the drug addicts the phonies - exercise your LIEN against tremendous personal injury settlements (NOT special needs kids who are being tutored - duh). NO, you won't do THAT because it takes intelligence and hard work and you just might get people who fight back. Much easier to take the cowardly way out and go after the people that worked their whole lives to support you and this county in their time of need when they are old and frail. You disgust me. That's why I am SO HAPPY that GREG PETERSON IS COMING IN TO TAKE THIS COUNTY OVER. He is old enough to care, really care about, the older folk in the community, smart enough to understand the public policy behind the laws, and wise enough to find the REAL medicaid fraud and corruption and spend his time going after the people who are really milking the system. WE NEED GREG PETERSON IN OFFICE NOW!

[nassau anonymous]

i'm still waiting for you to quote what section in the law that states that spousal refusal is legal. Spousal refusal is not a lein. Where did you learn these things???
I have no vendetta with DSS.
Sorry to disappoint you - I'm middle aged, love my parents both of whom had passed on. I took care of them at home when they were sick and while I worked. And what is with the character asassination???
Medicaid cost Nassau county over 1 billion dollars this past year and NYS ~42 billion So Tom and Bob shouldn't be interested in saving our tax dollars???
Please explain to me how disallowing spousal refusal is three times as expensive. You cannot qualify for welfare if you have ~$100,000 in the bank and ~ $2,000 in monthly income. A single person cannot qualify for welfare if they have more than $2,000 in the bank and / or earn more than $550 per month.
Is this fair - no But it is reality and that is what we have to deal with until our lawmakers decide to come up with a fair and sane national health care policy.

[In da nose]

Bob and Tom are saving the taxpayers money at Social Services? Since when? All I've seen is Nassau residents taxrates go up, up, up and away and ALL services for ALL taxpayers go down, down, down. The comedy team of Bob and Tom are throwing money into the medicaid program like it was water. Year after year (and we're talking YEARS here people) of overtime doesn't come cheap and mass hiring of functional illiterate individuals who just came off the welfare rolls themselves doesn't make for a healthy county run agency. The comedy workings of Bob and Tom does not make for sound fiscal responsibility in an area of government that amounts to 25% of county spending or rather taxpayer dollars. The horses are out of the barn and here we have the duo of Bob and Tom trying in vain to close the door but alas there's nothing to contain inside said barn. So before one rants and raves about how the WEALTHY are ripping off the SYSTEM remember the LAW is written to allow anyone to rip off the SYSTEM. It happens everyday at Social Services and numerous other Nassau County departments. It's all about the Benjamins people. Money rules and don't ever forget it because apparently some of you have. Class over.

I applaud Tom and Bob for going after these wealthy tax cheats. Sorry folks, Medicaid was created by the federal government with the intention of assisting poor people. It was never meant for middle or upper class people to avoid paying for their own medical care. Nursing Home care is medical care.
I would also like to point out that spousal refusal is not a right under federal law. Federal law doesnt allow for spousal refusal. NYS unfortunately has a loophole in state law that allows for this gimmick. Whatever happened to in sickness and in health. I am tired of the wealthy in this country using loopholes to escape the spirit of the law.
I am tired of the wealthy going to an elder law attorney so that they can shield or hide their assets while they use my tax money to pay for care they should have paid for. Medicaid is the fastest growing portion of the state and county budgets. I am tired of being taxed to death.

It sounds like you're generally just a tired person

[nassau anonymous]

yep you're right
i'm going to head of for some sleep

and this thread is getting boring
night all

[Peachee]

[quote="in sickness and in health"]I applaud Tom and Bob for going after these wealthy tax cheats. Sorry folks, Medicaid was created by the federal government with the intention of assisting poor people. It was never meant for middle or upper class people to avoid paying for their own medical care. Nursing Home care is medical care.

There is an abundance of those that are in the so called middle income range on Long Island that are now struggling to survive while trying to live here. They are living off their savings and being taxed to death. And as they have paid into the system, county, state and federal, they deserve to be assisted in their elder years.

[It amazes me]

At how stupid some people like peachtree really are. That's why Suozzi was able to destroy this county. Peachtree - I hope you are married and you spouse has a stroke and winds up in a nursing home and then I hope the county comes after you - and takes everything you have. At $10,000 a month you should be drained of every last penny, your home (because you won't be able to keep enough income to keep up with your property taxes) and it won't be long before you crawl down to social services begging for help. Then we'll close the door in your face and hand you a gun. People you like you should just rot in hell. Stupid stupid jerk.

I bet you use illegal immigrants to mow your lawn too right?

[Peacetree should drop dea]

Peacetree should drop dead -
Why should people live in poverty because of sickness in the family? County's buy everything on time - you just approved a multi-million dollar bond for freaking grass cutters on the north shore - what' the problem with deferring the cost of medicare until the community spouse dies?
What makes you think its rich people that are using medicaid and what makes you think its rich people they will go over and what makes you think they can get at any of those assets?
You don't think. Once again, its the people that can afford it least who will suffer most because people like you are obviously now running this county. That will change in November.
Peacetree should suffer some really serious disease and then she wouldn't be so fast to talk like a drunken sailor.
Wise up you idiot - get mad over the way your money is being wasted in other areas - not because people get sick and become helpless - but because of fraud, corrruption, mismanagement - that's what medicaid was NOT setup for. That's what you should get angry about. Fool
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Suozzi raised the property taxes to pay the salary's of his bloated NYC management team, stuffed money into task forces and consultants and study groups to take a look at nassau county and figure out what to do (that should have been what suozzi and his management team did) they drained money by giving it to personal service contractors who did nothing and gave money to illegal immigrants and their support groups and druggies and their lack of management led to overtime bloats and useless seasonal help and lost legal cases and bogus appraisals - the county is bleeding money. That's why property taxes were increased in nassau county. And now if there is a legitimate need to increase property taxes to cover a gap in medicaid - thanks to suozzi who FIRST took that route for other reasons, there's no place else to go and nothing else to drain. Suozzi has boxed the county and the taxpayers up against a wall and we need to get him out of the way and put in Peterson to trim the budget and get rid of these overpriced administrators, consultants and seasonals and put back the civil service system to save our county before it's too late.



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it's suozzi's payroll fraud not medicaid that got us where we are no. his poor managment - this is the reason the property taxes in nassau county were raised by suozzi over 40% if you include all the fee increases. he didn't do it because of medicaid. he did it because he did nothing but spend spend spend but yet he fixed nothing, improved nothing, gave us nothing, did nothing. he took our money and gave it to his friends who took it home to nyc and suffolk county and spend it there. he took our money and gave it to the illegals who sent it on to mexico and cuba and el salvador. now if there becomes a statewide crisis or a national crisis involving medicaid or anything else, we are left with our pockets empty and our pants down because he already took everything there was to take and raised everything there was to raise and gave us nothing. he's killed us and he's killed this county and he left us with one big red X on our head. don't blame medicaid for what has already happened. blame suozzi. and then blame suozzi again.

[Peachee]

At how stupid some people like peachtree really are. That's why Suozzi was able to destroy this county. Peachtree - I hope you are married and you spouse has a stroke and winds up in a nursing home and then I hope the county comes after you - and takes everything you have. At $10,000 a month you should be drained of every last penny, your home (because you won't be able to keep enough income to keep up with your property taxes) and it won't be long before you crawl down to social services begging for help. Then we'll close the door in your face and hand you a gun. People you like you should just rot in hell. Stupid stupid jerk.

I bet you use illegal immigrants to mow your lawn too right?

When you wish ill on someone else, it will come back to you in double

[Peachtree is Bankrupt]

According to Newsday medical costs are the number one reason people, even middle class people with insurance, were driven into bankruptcy, yet there still exists idiots like Peachtree who want the government to hunt down old people with sick spouses and take everything that's not nailed down. Did you file yet Peachtree - your spouse is looking alittle peaked? Or are you gonna sell everything you have and PAY for that medical care?

[Ironic isn't it?]

Suozzi pretends to be so worried about medicaid and the old folks - yet his policies have had the single most devastating effect on poor people and old people that Nassau County has ever experienced in the last 40 years, and those policies have contributed absolutely nothing to the welfare of Nassau County. Any money "saved' went out in trifold to pay for the legal costs of defending lawsuits, the interest accumulated on the lost judgments and the punitive damages for stupidity, not to mention the interium public assistance and health care costs forced on the effected people during the interium period while they were waiting for the courts to speak out against Suozzi.

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[High Power Electric Lines]

I'm just wondering what Suozzi's position is on Lipa's plans to put in high powered electric lines underneath the ground from Levittown to Melville? How many backyards is it going to dig up and did anybody do any health studies on the ill effects of high powered electric wires being placed underground? Is Suozzi going to be at the March 9th Public Hearings at the Island trees School in Levittown to discuss this? Is this going to become like NYC - where dogs and their walkers are getting electrocuted just walking in the streets and on the sidewalks from exposed high voltage currents?

I'm just wondering what Suozzi's position is on Lipa's plans to put in high powered electric lines underneath the ground from Levittown to Melville? How many backyards is it going to dig up and did anybody do any health studies on the ill effects of high powered electric wires being placed underground? Is Suozzi going to be at the March 9th Public Hearings at the Island trees School in Levittown to discuss this? Is this going to become like NYC - where dogs and their walkers are getting electrocuted just walking in the streets and on the sidewalks from exposed high voltage currents?

Are you referring to LIPA's Newbridge Road project?

http://www.lipower.org/projects/newbridge.html

[March 10th]

Its not the 9th - it's the 10th.

Island Trees Senior High School, Little Theatre, 59 Straight Lane, Levittown

or send statements and comments to Jaclyn A. Brilling, Secretary, Public Service Commission, 3 Empire State Plaza, Albany, New York 12223-1350 and refer to case 04-T-1687 - LIPA 345 KV Electric Facility Proposal. See the full application at www.lipower.org

It's an electric pipeline straight through Nassau County

[Suozzi is all about money]

First - he'll impoverish all the old people and all the families that have special needs kids. Then he'll make it so you can't afford to school your kids privately anymore. Next he'll take away your only means of transportation over a few parking tickets instead of going to court and getting a money judgment and garnishing your paycheck alittle at a time like a normal creditor would do. AND watch out people - after he's finished giving away all the County owned land - he's coming after your house. Just be late with a tax payment and he'll send his goon squad over to throw you out into the street. Gee - you can't even live in your car because he'll have that too! But stupid people think he's great because LOOK - the stupid bond rating is back up. What does that mean to you? It means Suozzi can borrow money more cheaply now to spend on things like colored horses.

Parking tickets - I find that especially irksome since he runs around town on economic development talks complaining about how overcrowded it is and how there's no parking anywhere - and in the same breath he want to have 60 floor skyscrapers built all over the place. I guess he figures - more tickets - more cars - more money for his appointees!

[Suoz will take yours next]

Why does Suozzi keep saying the Republicans are the ones trying to build a 6th borough?

I'm starting to think that he doesn't understand what that means. He seems to just like the sound of it.

He is wanting to build skyscrapers and shopping centers and low income rentals everywhere - and he just gave the Town of North Hempstead $3 million under the pretext that they're now "managing" 9 County parks so they could use those County funds to build a 6th borough in "central nassau" - exactly what he publically accused the Republicans of wanting to do!

Democrat TONH Mayor Kaiman (who just did a smiling Newsday press release with Suozzi walking around North New Hyde Park) is heeding Suozzi's economic development plan, (which is suspiciously similar to the economic development plan first proffered by Nickerson and later regurgitated by the County Attorney's $120K Office Manager, Peter Reinharz, which economic development plan even the Rockaways rejected).

They want to start out by stealing property from an old woman in New Cassel who lives there and runs a 100 member church on it - and then Suozzi turns around and says - the GOPERS are doing it? Doesn't Suozzi think Peterson's people will help the public put it together and see the lies? Does he think by saying it - thats all he needs to do for the people to believe it and that his actions mean nothing? Nobody will notice or find out about it?

Then Suozzi argues that patronage in the GOP is alive and well - while he just gave his appointees, who he started at record high salarys, another salary raise for the 4th year in a row, 200 of which don't even live in Nassau County, and who's salary alone is at least $16 million dollars?

Has Suozzi regressed to the likes of a 9 year old? His campaigning rhetoric is starting to sound like that of a school yard bully - "I know you are but what am I"? Ever play the shadow game? That seems to be what he's doing. The Republicans started the 6th Borough talk when he resurrected Nickerson's disasterous plans - so now he turns around and says - they're doing it not me - all the while having in his back pocket Wang's 60 story apartment building and his 2001 economic development plan where low-income rental skyscrapers are written into it !!!

Man oh Man - The Public must see through this guy - he's so completely transparent.



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[Go ahead - Vote for Him]

You vote for Suozzi - You Get what you deserve

[guest12]

[quote=in sickness and in health]I applaud Tom and Bob for going after these wealthy tax cheats. Sorry folks, Medicaid was created by the federal government with the intention of assisting poor people. It was never meant for middle or upper class people to avoid paying for their own medical care. Nursing Home care is medical care.

There is an abundance of those that are in the so called middle income range on Long Island that are now struggling to survive while trying to live here. They are living off their savings and being taxed to death. And as they have paid into the system, county, state and federal, they deserve to be assisted in their elder years.


Then you have to pass legislation that enables that to do it- don't expect it under the present administration.

[guest12]

According to Newsday medical costs are the number one reason people, even middle class people with insurance, were driven into bankruptcy, yet there still exists idiots like Peachtree who want the government to hunt down old people with sick spouses and take everything that's not nailed down. Did you file yet Peachtree - your spouse is looking alittle peaked? Or are you gonna sell everything you have and PAY for that medical care?


Again- if you want such a prgram in place you will have to elect people who will pass it- and I am telling you a Republican congress and president WON'T.

The County is following the law as it is written- it can do no other.

[guest12]

Why does Suozzi keep saying the Republicans are the ones trying to build a 6th borough?

I'm starting to think that he doesn't understand what that means. He seems to just like the sound of it.
He is wanting to build skyscrapers and shopping centers and low income rentals everywhere - and he just gave the Town of North Hempstead $3 million under the pretext that they're now "managing" 9 County parks so they could use those County funds to build a 6th borough in "central nassau" - exactly what he publically accused the Republicans of wanting to do!
Democrat TONH Mayor Kaiman (who just did a smiling Newsday press release with Suozzi walking around North New Hyde Park) is heeding Suozzi's economic development plan, (which is suspiciously similar to the economic development plan first proffered by Nickerson and later regurgitated by the County Attorney's $120K Office Manager, Peter Reinharz, which economic development plan even the Rockaways rejected). They want to start out by stealing property from an old woman in New Cassel who lives there and runs a 100 member church on it - and then Suozzi turns around and says - the GOPERS are doing it? Doesn't Suozzi think Peterson's people will help the public put it together and see the lies? Does he think by saying it - thats all he needs to do for the people to believe it and that his actions mean nothing? Nobody will notice or find out about it? Then Suozzi argues that patronage in the GOP is alive and well - while he just gave his appointees, who he started at record high salarys, another salary raise for the 4th year in a row, 200 of which don't even live in Nassau County, and who's salary alone is at least $16 million dollars? Has Suozzi regressed to the likes of a 9 year old? His campaigning rhetoric is starting to sound like that of a school yard bully - "I know you are but what am I"? Ever play the shadow game? That seems to be what he's doing. The Republicans started the 6th Borough talk when he resurrected Nickerson's disasterous plans - so now he turns around and says - they're doing it not me - all the while having in his back pocket Wang's 60 story apartment building and his 2001 economic development plan where low-income rental skyscrapers are written into it !!!
Man oh Man - The Public must see through this guy - he's so completely transparent.


Does this have anything to do with this thread, or are you Peterson practicing your stupid stump speech?

[NYS Old people]

This should stuff should sell well upstate huh?