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Roads1
12-26-2002, 11:32 AM
Hello Republicans:
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp I’m curious about your reaction to the Trent Lott episode as it relates to Long Island Republican politics. The Lott episode highlighted the Southern Strategy of the
Republican Party to use racial politics. They attracted white Southern voters frustrated by African-American civil rights advances. The Republicans always spoke in code by everyone knew what they meant. The strategy has been there for decades but the Lott case just brought it out in the open.
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Northeastern Republicans never really operated in those terms. Even New York State Republican defectors to the Conservative Party did not focus on racial matters. There is wide cultural differences between Northeast Republicans and your Southern brethren who are much more conservative and now dominate the party. The defection of Vermont Senator Jeffords
was a reflection of the resistance to Southern domination of the party.
So I wonder how you think the Lott episode will affect Republican efforts on Long Island. And do you anticipate the resurgence of Northeast control of the Republican Party?

contra roads
12-27-2002, 12:36 AM
Republican? Democrat? Besides minor ideological points and pandering to there respective special interest sucklings I think that there is little difference between either party. Maybee I am just being cynical but it seams like that no matter who is in the whitehouse or who controls the congress things in this country just get worse and our rights go down the tubes. I still think that we have the best nation in the world but for how long? These politicians do not care about us, the average citizen. They only care about there own wealth and the fortunes of there backers. How long can we as a nation last like this? It was excess and the power elites selfish goals that brought the Roman empire down. In these days with the quickening pace of the modern world I can not see our nation lasting, atleast as how the founding fathers envisioned our nation.

NYIndependence
12-27-2002, 01:49 PM
Jim Jeffords is an extraordianry Senator and a true Moderate if there ever was one. As far as being a Socialist, I believe you are thinking of Vermont's House Representative Bernie Sanders. Sanders is an admitted Socialist, but unless Jeffords has a secret past we don't know about, he is a true Independent. I think a man who spent over 2 decades in the military would get some funny looks at the Socialist meetings. If you have a problem with Jeffords switching parties, that is your opinion, but he is NOT a Socialist.

I am so sick of the "Civil Liberties going down the tubes" garbage that I keep getting forcefed. I wish I could throw you knuckleheads in a time machine and send you back 100 years. Because, according to you, the US granted more Liberties in the "good old days", when you probably wouldn't have been allowed to vote, the press was under more control, cities WERE run by boss-puppet mayors, and there were social classes divided by financial status. While some of these barriers exist to a much lesser degree today, I can say with no small amount of comfort that the United States of today grants more rights than any other government in the history of government. I will go further to say that the rights we have today overshadow the rights any US citizen has had in her 226 year history. There are a lot of countries that desperately want civil rights and for you to say that we are losing them because of a nativity scene on city property or a newspaper being censored is a slap in the face to the real struggles for freedom.
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CuriousIndy
12-27-2002, 03:35 PM
Jeffords is a hero of mine and an independent, but not an *I*ndependent.....yet. He is a bit of a wild card when it comes to votes on bills in the Senate. I won't consider him a "true" Independent until he actually runs for re-election in 2006 *AS* an Independent, perhaps facing both Democratic and Republican challengers (akin to Independent governors Ventura and King), and wins another term in the Senate.

Eric Cartman
12-27-2002, 10:27 PM
All of those politicians from Vermont are just a bunch of tree hugging hippies. And hippies s***.