Is Mondello Finished?

[Freedomlover]

After the debacle in 2001, rumors were flying that Big Joe was on his way out and the list of successors was getting longer each day. Recently, Big Joe sent one of his "rah-rah" (no, Joe, not you) letters telling all the Committeemembers words to the effect of how he looks forward to being the leader, yadda yadda yadda.
Haven't the GOP committeemembers had enough of being abused by their own party, a party they freely work for and donate money to...a party who consistently lies to them, consistently picks the same "insiders" to run for office, consistently tells them whatever they do is never enough, etc.
Even if Big Joe does go, he can not be permitted to annoint his successor as the "new" will just be more of the old. . . Any thoughts on whether Big Joe should stay?? ANY THOUGHTS ON HOW TO DRIVE HOME THE POINT TO THE WESTBURY CONNECTION THAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE FED UP WITH THE ABUSE ... EXECS WILL HAVE A MORE DIFFICULT TIME EVERY YEAR GETTING THEIR COMMITTEES TO GO THAT EXTRA MILE. Whaddya think?
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[NHP1]

Part of the problem is that Joe does not really respect some of his Execs. Oh, he acts like he does, but when you look at what he gives them (read, their people) you see that not all Executive areas are created equal, and it has nothing to do with size or money or anyhting else. A particular committee can be awarded 1st, 2nd. or 3rd prize each year (meaning the top three in the Town) and still not have one elected official as a member of that committee. How is it possible that the committee that is at the top of the heap each year gets dissed when it comes to selecting judicial candidates, getting legislative jobs (not even elective office), getting members appointed to commissions, etc.?? Either the Exec has no clout, the Exec does not step up for the members or Westbury has no regard for the Exec. Which is it?? I have no idea...but, unless the commiteemembers are morons (and some are b/c they need those $30K yr jobs), the system, at the local level will never inspire smart, inspired, quality people to participate for very long. Joe may have to go, but it would have to be a coup...I agree with Freedomlover...no annoitments. Afterall, didn't Mondello steal it from Margiotta?? he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword.

[NewHydeParker]

I just read the two posts above.

1. Yes, Mondello must go and the new leader must be someone who owes nothing to the "establishment"--good luck!! (BENT?? I know it sounds crazy, but that's what they told Ed Koch when he wanted to be Mayor of NYC and Jimmy "Who" when he wanted to be President); and

2. Executive areas are definitely not created equally. The 22nd AD is owned by a select few. and I am sure other ADs and EDs as well but I can only speak of what I have observed locally (And we know who they are). The GOP, for all its "inclusion" language, is still the party of the few ---and those few have to be friends of "The Joes" (all 2 of them) to get anywhere.

3. For any organization to succeed (and no one can argue that the Nassau GOP has not succeeded) it must give its members a sense of belonging and an expectation that the organization will reward their efforts. While the party on the whole has achieved that goal County-wide, those days are over. They have not, however, acheived that goal in several local areas. There are posts on this board about the Beckers in Lynbrook, etc. but that is only one area. There are many just like it. The Nassau GOP must convince their committmemers that they will be rewarded, that there is something in it for them (and not necessarily jobs or elective office (although those are nice--there are many types of rewards), that their work and dedication are appreciated. People work hard for the party -- go walk with Petitions on those hot weekends in late June, do walk-throughs with arrogant candidates...that's work!! Write checks for G*D knows how many fundrasiers, dinners, salutes, victory parties, etc...THAT'S dedication. You gotta give a little to get a lot sometimes.

4. Committee Members have got to start to say NO to their Execs. Let the execs go to Westbury and report to the Chairman that their members are disgruntled. Let's see what the Chairman does then. He rules with an iron fist, except people with brains, integrity and motivation don't respond to that type of behavior --wait, those people don't even belong in local politics and the Chariman does not want people like that. He wants borderline intelligent people who can write checks, show up at functions so it looks like a big powerful army, put up posters, go along with whatever he says and shake in their boots at night becasue they may lose their $30K yr. job b/c they didn't get enough signatures on petitions. . . There has got to be a better way.

[letsbefair]

Sounds like we have some unhappy people in NHP. I sure hope Uncle Joe does not read your post and take it out on your area. Levittown

Wouldn't it be nice if committeemen could be rewarded based on their individual ability, contributions and value to the party. Instead of what exec area you belong in.
A good committee person is just as valuable in Greatneck or NHP as he/she is in Levitown and Valley Stream. Some leaders have a difficult time because of voter registration, they should not be penalized for it.

Then you have some leaders that because they are close the chairman they get everything. If you have plenty of jobs or rewards to give out, its much easier to get help. I was at one clubs fundraiser and tier committee sounded like a who's who of County

[Bellmore Reformer]

Speaking from practical experience, Mondello views his chairmanship as a dictatorship, not a Democracy - he's said so in uncertain terms to the Executive Committee on several ocassions. So ground based swells are nice pr stunts, but he's surrounded himself so thick with yes men & women that we can VOICE all we want and not get any response. These letters he sends out are scoffed by the staff inside of GOP HQ for the BS they contain, laughably created by Santino, a writer who's become good at crafting silk out of a sows ear. His stuff is wearing thin and not of especially high quality compared to other stronger GOP writers around. Just how many times can one stand to read that a "brighter future" is at hand? Maybe for a few it is, but not the real deserving ones, the Real Republicans in the party.

LOYALTY, he views this as a one way street. Be loyal to me, don't expect it back. It's that simple. And of course it being an non-principled, personality centered machine, there's no such thing as Party Loyalty.

The only alternative is to EXIT, deprive the machine of your manpower, vote and money and we will achieve our desired result. Working for one or two selected opposition candidates doesn't hurt either.

And of course, support Republican Reformer wherever you can find them - Town of Hempstead preferrably.

[NHP1]

"letsbefair" cites Levittown and Valley Stream. I wonder why, mmmm???

[NewHydeParker]

"letsbefair" -- there ar unhappy GOP committee people all over the Town of Hempstead and Nassau County.
The post left by "Reformer" is right on the money. The General has surrounded himself with a bunch of Colonels who are afraid to say "no"; the only one who is somewhat on par with the General himself is his Field Commander Cairo. . . Watch Santino in public with the General...I swear he follows him into the men's room to unzip and rezip him...If Bent is not the answer, who then?? Let's hear some suggestions of who should or could take the reigns from that corpulent corksinker. .

[why can't we all just get]

Dear Disgruntled: You make the point beautifully. You are right, no one puts a gun to anyone's head to be a committeemember, however, Westbury is not doing as you suggest. There is no search for the leaders of tomorrow. No recognition and grooming of the brightest and the best. It's the in-crowd only. . . And with that attitude, they are going to lose the benefit of talented people who care about the Republican Party. :">

[Re: Freedom Lover]

the real adversary is Suozzi .... not the Chairman.... and don't ever forget that!

[RepWard]

Yes, lets fight one battle at a time, we need to see that Suozzi gets dumped. During the next two years we need to work together all committee people equally to see that this is accomplished. Its the only way our party can win. If he is re-elected and they keep control of the legislature and a host of other seats, then their will be nothing to give out anyway. No hope at all for the little guy. However once we win the chairman needs to understand he needs to reward all areas equally.

Its important that every executive area due better next time. If North Hempstead
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[RepWard]

my thoughts somehow got cut off

If North Hempstead and Long Beach does better that will serve to help the entire county ticket. Its important for all areas to get the support it needs to do better. I think its easier to pick up votes in your weaker areas (more room for improvement). I would go as far as saying that the chairman should ask stronger executive areas to lend committee people to some key weaker ones for the next two years.

When the party wins the chairman needs to understand that all areas should be rewarded equally. Every part of the County is important. Every republican committee person and every republican vote.

Our enemy is Suozzi not Mondello
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[Freedomlover]

I agree that the real adversary is Suozzi and his ilk, however, THE CHAIRMAN has to understand that to defeat Suozzi, et al, he needs to be more responsive and appreciative of his soldiers -- all his soldiers.
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[ValleyStreamGoper]

Wrong, Wrong, and Wrong. Suozzi doesn't run again until 2005. The Boss is entrenched. The real enemy is O'Shea, who is going to drag down our entire ticket next year. If he doesn't drop out, we're going to lose seats.

[Fight the Real Enemy]

An op-ed piece in the Times also gave O'Shea a pretty good hit. No doubt, it was politically motivated, but it certainly had the ring of truth, just like the Levinson report as summarized in Newsday.

BTW I would never tear up my photo of O'Shea (Actually, its me, him, Gulotta and Parola) but I certainly won't be bragging about it next November. I'm really embarassed by the company, I've kept.

What's next with the reassessment debacle?

[Valley Stream Goper]

In fact, I would argue that Levinson may be a sort of "white knight" used to legitimize some otherwise disasterous personnel choices by the Administration on perhaps the most sensitive of all financial issues. the one they cannot screw up.

[Freedomlover]

Hey, V.S. goper, tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are!! LOL

You better watch your postings, Joe C. runs your area with an iron fist. . . he and Big Joe have no sense of humor when it comes to this kind of stuff. . .

WHO ATE THE STRAWBERRIES????
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[NewHydeParker]

Hey valleystreamgoper, don't be ungrateful. You have a leader who can move heaven and earth for you guys--and has! "Other areas" have Execs that are empty suits who get no respect from "The Joes". . . Having a "Joe" as a Rabbi is as good as gold, IF you are loyal.
Nobody effs with a guy whose got a "Joe" in his corner. For now, "The joes" still rule, which makes Valley Stream golden.

[ValleyStreamGoper]

As long as I still write checks and get my signatures, JoeC will leave be the "f" alone, and I'm not worried about him figuring out who I am, because someone would have to first teach him how to use the computer, and then to read. If the dumb bastard figures it out, what's he going to do to me. Unlike his entire family, I work for a living and not on the public teet.

[Mapquest]

Just so you guys know, there is a Valley Stream club and a North Valley Stream club. John DeGrace is the head of VS and Joe C is the head of NVS.

I think people don't realize there are two seperate clubs.

[ValleyStreamGoper]

Spoil Sport

[Freedomlover]

Actually, although I knew there are 2 separate clubs in that area, poor John Degrace always gets overlooked. . . From all the dealings I have had with him, John is a good guy...What is he doing in this business?!?!?


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[ValleyStreamGoper]

Biding his time.

[gopway]

Vs goper those are some harsh words about a leader that has probably done good things for you. Considering he helps virtually anyone and everyone. Plus if im not mistaken doesnt he have only one out of four children working in civil service. well thats not strange is it?

[gop1]

John is the mostecent person. those that would detract from him are simply partisan idiots that can only throw stones and can not say a nice thing about a nice man just because he is of the other party.
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[Freedomlover]

John DeGrace is a wonderful, decent human being...if you say otherwise you must be talking about another John Degrace, don't know him, or are just an ignorant a-hole.

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[ValleyStreamGoper]

Please be assured that my comments above were not intended and should not be construed in any way as a slight against John D. If read in context, you'll see that my comments were aimed at the Joes. My "spoil sport" comment was aimed at mapquest for explaining why I don't give a rat's ass what Joe C. thinks (if he thinks) and my "Biding his time" comment was not a slight, but a response to the question - what is John D. doing. Some day he will have a larger roll. Right now, he is biding his time.

[NewHydeParker]

You are correct, John D is biding his time. His name is always mentioned when bigger things are discussed. He is part of the future.

[oyster one]

mondello to resign shortly..rumors flying

[NassGuy]

Based on what?

[Log Cabin]

Nassau County Chairman Joe Mondello must be replaced. He has turned the face of the Nassau Republican Party from the Party of George Bush and George Pataki to the Party of Pat Buchanan and Jerry Falwell.

In the recent passage of the Sexual Orientation Non-discrimination Act he yielded to the threats of the Conservative Party instead of showing support for Governor Pataki and State Party Chairman Sandy Treadwell. Only State Senator Mike Balboni was willing to follow the desire of the people of Nassau County in voting for the bill. Mondello has said that the Republican Party would have a hard time supporting Senator Balboni.

If the Republican Party is truly the "Party of the Open Door" , then a change at the top is needed. The Log Cabin Republicans of Long Island has not been welcomed as part of the party. Only Chairman Mondello could change that attitude, but has been unwilling.

[POLL WATCHER]

You just make this stuff up

[Spotlight]

Look for the current GOP chairman to be leaving his law firm. Due to recent changes by Judy kaye, any political chairman won't be able to bring in business to firms.

In fact, having any political chairman might cause you to lose business you might already have(ie court appointments).


Tough break if you want to be the boss.

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[prognosticator]

Spotlight is absolutely correct. So either Mondello resigns from Certilman, Balin or from the GOP -- he has to make a choice, or he stays in both places and claims he brings in no business to the firm (HA!) ... Then, look for a chairperson who is not invested in a big time law firm to move in... Fuschillo? DeGrace? Cairo (forget it)? Peterson (nope)? Parola? (possible--his ego will want him to be chairman); Ra?. . .
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[Spotlight]

Problem for chairman is, even if he does not bring in the business, the law firm is not allowed to take work from Court. That is ANY court assignments.

So, he is more of a problem to keep with the firm.
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[prognosticator]

Spotlight...YOU ARE CORRECT
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[gopway]

Its funny to read all these discussions about who might be the next chairman. Well if you know anything about politics and how it works, you would know who the next chairman would be. Every leader has respect for him and knows he is the only man that deserves the job before the next level of guys. I believe he is now the first vice chairman.

[Spotlight]

The first Vice Chair would make an excellent Chair, but, he carries baggage. He is smart and knows how to motovate.

The problem is that he is so smart, that he realizes the issues he would bring, and he might decide to have someone else in the, limelight, to avoid causing controversy.

It's a shame, because he knows how to run elections and get candidates to work the ENTIRE disctrict, including minority areas. ie, look at the Alfano and Ciotti numbers from D areas in the districts.
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[prognosticator]

Of course the First Vice Chairman would have been the next and logical choice, HOWEVER, the baggage he carries is a heavy load to bear. BUT, in politics, who knows? Anything could happen. . . the first vice chair, a man I've known since he was a junior councilman, is a master politician, knows how to motivate people and is made from the same mold as mondello --Newsday would have a field day if he was to be made Chairman. It's unfortunate, but the facts are the facts.
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[martys]

Not happening....................

[Pollster]

More insightful commentary from x5-x5-x5-x5-x5- S!

As to the limited concensus about Cairo....now that inspire Newsday to buy another ton of newsprint and barrel of ink woudn't it.

Now that's insight!
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[Spotlight]

Pollster, all I can say is LOL, that is funny, but sadly true. That is why he won't be the next chairman.
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[Freedomlover]

Mondello ain't goin' no where until after the GOP convention in NYC...He wouldn't miss that opportunity for all of Bobby Kumar's money!!! In fact, Bobby would have to kidnap Mondello to keep him away from that convention as the chariman as the most powerful GOP committee in the state!!!!
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