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Byers Beware
01-12-2006, 05:33 PM
DA Rice starts off her career as the County's Chief Law Enforcement officer with a bang. Newsday reported that
Cheryl Rice, who is married to the district attorney's brother Larry, will be earning $95,000 a year to handle the scheduling, reports and correspondence for the office. Yeah, $95,000 for a secretary. Can't beat that for government work, unless you had thirty years in the system.

I pity those poor idiot prosecutors across the state who went to law school, gained admission to the bar, and who try felonies for a living who make substantially less. And who don't have the family, friends, resources, and connections to live rent free and bankroll a $600,000 war chest for a run for the top job. Suckers.

Yeah, Kathleen the newly crowned "Queen of Nepotism" Rice has once again redefined the bottom of the barrel in one broad struck which exceeds even being sued for allegedly suborning perjury, or being castigated for failing to understand the nuances of federal 4th amendment law in a gun case.

But one wonders just how news of this story leaked so quickly? Is there a snitch within the the DA's office? Could it be the newly appointed executive officer in the DA's office who formerly worked for the Board of Education? Could it be some hapless current ADA, slaving in the felony complaint bureau? Could it be one of the part time paralegals? Could it be a member of the CSEA workforce? Could it be a parting shot from one or more of the people who were summarily terminated by Ms. Rice upon her ascension to office?

Hmmm??
01-12-2006, 05:52 PM
DA Rice starts off her career as the County's Chief Law Enforcement officer with a bang. Newsday reported that
Cheryl Rice, who is married to the district attorney's brother Larry, will be earning $95,000 a year to handle the scheduling, reports and correspondence for the office. Yeah, $95,000 for a secretary. Can't beat that for government work, unless you had thirty years in the system.

I pity those poor idiot prosecutors across the state who went to law school, gained admission to the bar, and who try felonies for a living who make substantially less. And who don't have the family, friends, resources, and connections to live rent free and bankroll a $600,000 war chest for a run for the top job. Suckers.

Yeah, Kathleen the newly crowned "Queen of Nepotism" Rice has once again redefined the bottom of the barrel in one broad struck which exceeds even being sued for allegedly suborning perjury, or being castigated for failing to understand the nuances of federal 4th amendment law in a gun case.

But one wonders just how news of this story leaked so quickly? Is there a snitch within the the DA's office? Could it be the newly appointed executive officer in the DA's office who formerly worked for the Board of Education? Could it be some hapless current ADA, slaving in the felony complaint bureau? Could it be one of the part time paralegals? Could it be a member of the CSEA workforce? Could it be a parting shot from one or more of the people who were summarily terminated by Ms. Rice upon her ascension to office?

Or could it be a member of the gym that her sister-in-law ran.......?? Thats right, she ran a gym. That is her qualification......

01-12-2006, 05:55 PM
DA Rice starts off her career as the County's Chief Law Enforcement officer with a bang. Newsday reported that
Cheryl Rice, who is married to the district attorney's brother Larry, will be earning $95,000 a year to handle the scheduling, reports and correspondence for the office. Yeah, $95,000 for a secretary. Can't beat that for government work, unless you had thirty years in the system.

I pity those poor idiot prosecutors across the state who went to law school, gained admission to the bar, and who try felonies for a living who make substantially less. And who don't have the family, friends, resources, and connections to live rent free and bankroll a $600,000 war chest for a run for the top job. Suckers.

Yeah, Kathleen the newly crowned "Queen of Nepotism" Rice has once again redefined the bottom of the barrel in one broad struck which exceeds even being sued for allegedly suborning perjury, or being castigated for failing to understand the nuances of federal 4th amendment law in a gun case.

But one wonders just how news of this story leaked so quickly? Is there a snitch within the the DA's office? Could it be the newly appointed executive officer in the DA's office who formerly worked for the Board of Education? Could it be some hapless current ADA, slaving in the felony complaint bureau? Could it be one of the part time paralegals? Could it be a member of the CSEA workforce? Could it be a parting shot from one or more of the people who were summarily terminated by Ms. Rice upon her ascension to office?

Or could it be a member of the gym that her sister-in-law ran.......?? Thats right, she ran a gym. That is her qualification......

Are you saying this lady was flapping her gums on the treadmill with some yentas and that's how she got ratted out? Could be true. But it still feels like an inside job to men.

deeper throat
01-12-2006, 06:21 PM
Sounds to me like there was an inside source leaking info outside. Can that guy who use to work at the Board of Elections be trusted?Or does he want to make all the money

JJ's Mini Me a Leaking???
01-12-2006, 06:29 PM
Sounds to me like there was an inside source leaking info outside. Can that guy who use to work at the Board of Elections be trusted?Or does he want to make all the money

He is about as trustworthy as a sewer rat. Maybe she was hired without Jay Jacob's approval and his puppet Jeffrey (AKA Mini Me) leaked it to the press.

white line fever
01-12-2006, 10:07 PM
maybe he wants to drop her a line

GUEST AGAIN
01-13-2006, 09:19 AM
You are so right about snow white mini me!

Smithy Knows
01-13-2006, 09:28 AM
You are so right about snow white mini me!

Smithy knows who in the DA's office in doing the blow.

01-13-2006, 09:56 AM
The Countdown withKeith Oberman has a segment called "the worst person in the world. He names a "worse person", a "worser person" and a "worst person"
.
Last night Rice was the "worser person in the world" according to Oberman.

There is nothing a politician likes more than national media exposure :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Old Country
01-13-2006, 12:02 PM
"It's safe to say this job is on par with the volume and intensity of what she's used to, if not below it," Phillips said.

Oh really? Then why did she get a raise?

What a moron.

Dumber than St@in
01-13-2006, 12:47 PM
"It's safe to say this job is on par with the volume and intensity of what she's used to, if not below it," Phillips said.

Oh really? Then why did she get a raise?

What a moron.

Handling tennis players is far more demanding they worrying about prosecuting murders and rapists. I glad the DA's PR person has no clue there's a difference.

01-13-2006, 01:36 PM
Has our new DA made a statement? Or will she simply wait for this to blow over?

"It's safe to say this job is on par with the volume and intensity of what she's used to, if not below it," Phillips said.

Oh really? Then why did she get a raise?

What a moron.

Handling tennis players is far more demanding they worrying about prosecuting murders and rapists. I glad the DA's PR person has no clue there's a difference.

01-13-2006, 02:17 PM
It appears that she made a statement about the propriety of this hiring through her flak. She would be insane to address the question herself on the record, because the hiring of your in-law for a very high paying public sector position can never pass the smell test. She has to wait for the story to blow over. Since it is early in her term of office, time is on her side if she otherwise performs her job above reproach.

Guest 23
01-13-2006, 07:01 PM
Does anybody know who was fired, and hired, on the legal staff of the DA's office, i.e. the bureau chiefs and the line ADA's? If somebody knows, will they name names?

D'Amico
01-13-2006, 08:00 PM
The new DA sucks just like me.

Sappho
01-13-2006, 08:25 PM
The new DA dddddddd just like me.


Are we going to read someday that Anne Heche is going to show up drunk on the lawn of that estate where Miss Rice lives rent free?

01-14-2006, 10:56 AM
"It's safe to say this job is on par with the volume and intensity of what she's used to, if not below it," Phillips said.

Oh really? Then why did she get a raise?

What a moron.

Handling tennis players is far more demanding they worrying about prosecuting murders and rapists. I glad the DA's PR person has no clue there's a difference.

What a joke this has become. And we have nobody to blame but ourselves....... Rice must go!!

the mole man
01-16-2006, 10:00 PM
"It's safe to say this job is on par with the volume and intensity of what she's used to, if not below it," Phillips said.

Oh really? Then why did she get a raise?

What a moron.

Handling tennis players is far more demanding they worrying about prosecuting murders and rapists. I glad the DA's PR person has no clue there's a difference.

What a joke this has become. And we have nobody to blame but ourselves....... Rice must go!!

lol...you are stuck with her for 4 years....


We won't be stuck with her for four years if she doesn't capture and fired the mole who planted this story against her. Rice has some big problems within the organization, and it should only get worse. Think of all the young ambitious ADAs who want to cut their deals with politicians, or the defense bar.... Especially if they think they are on their way out. Makes one paranoid, doesn' it? I can only imagine the whoppers getting bigger and more severe.

01-17-2006, 01:56 PM
Still, she's not going anywhere for the next 4 years unless she wants to. This is what you get when you have falsified voter registration records, a rigged convention and the Dem line given to Republican from out of town who's only alliegence is to self and to the Knight of Malta who annointed her. Thank you Bob McD and JJ for brilliant job ! :twisted: :twisted:

01-17-2006, 07:33 PM
Then explain how she won?

Its "Gross" I
01-17-2006, 07:38 PM
The same way 60,000 people voted for a Judge under indictment.Its called UNINFORMED VOTERS!

How Rice Won
01-17-2006, 07:54 PM
Then explain how she won?


1. Tom Suozzi's political people crafted for her an intelligent, aggressive campaign and powerful advertising, which raised questions about "plea bargaining," in particularly DWI cases and the Tassone matter.

2. Ms. Rice received strong support from newspaper editorial boards, in part because of her youth and in her gender, in part because of her support from Tom Suozzi, and in part because of her pro-choice position on Roe v. Wade,

3. Dillon's anemic campaign strategy and his unwillingness to respond to Rice's demogoguery on the plea bargaining issue, and his complete unwillingness to go negative, other than to say that she didn't have "supervisory" experience.

4. Ms. Rice's ability to do a better job in fundraising than Mr. Dillon. Head to head, Ms. Rice outgunned Dillon of fundraising without even considering the impact of living rent free for several months while she campaigned from one of her more significant donors. Even the job with Schlesinger's firm while she campaigned must also be on some level considered a political contribution since it is puzzling what she could have contributed to the firm while campaigning.

5. Ms. Rice is youthful, vital, athletic, and attractive. A stark contrast to the seventy-something year old former district attorney.

6. Suozzi coattails to some extent must be factored in as well. The guy is a great campaigner and received universal praise from the media, like him or not.

Flak for the Rice Flak
01-18-2006, 02:39 PM
"It's safe to say this job is on par with the volume and intensity of what she's used to, if not below it," Phillips said.

Oh really? Then why did she get a raise?

What a moron.

Handling tennis players is far more demanding they worrying about prosecuting murders and rapists. I glad the DA's PR person has no clue there's a difference.

Hey, some of those tennis chicks are pretty tough. Imagine having to throw down against Venus and Serena Williams? Or one of those really tough "Billy Jean King" types, you know the chicks with the Jason Giambi biceps, spiky hair cuts, and the Johnny Damon facial hair circa his tenure with the Red Sox?

Former DA
01-18-2006, 11:50 PM
The fired ADAs are:

1) Bob Biancavilla, deputy Chief of Major Offense (Homicide)

2) Frank Quigley, Chief of Special Investigations

3) Frank Schroeder, Distinguished Homicide Prosecutor

4) Joy Watson, Chief of Sex Offense

5) Greg Turkin, line ADA in sex offense bureau with whom who someone obviously had a personal axe to grind

6) Phil Waslieusky (sp) Chief of the complaint unit, who someone just wanted to screw.

7) Bruce Ruinsky Chief Assistant for administration (generally would leave no matter who was elected)

8) Harvey Melniker, Chief of Narcotics

9) Joe Burrano, Chief ADA for Litigation (would have been removed in any administration).

Some of these people were fired becuase of personality conflicts with Rice. Frank Quigley was fired because he is a zealous corruption prosecutor and has made some enemies among the sleaze that populate the Nassau defense bar, and Rice wanted her own people in S.I.

There may be a few more people that I have omitted, but these are the major players.

Guest 23
01-19-2006, 12:56 AM
I wasn't a fan of everyone on the list but Biancavilla, Watson and, particularly, Schroeder, were people I knew personally, the hard way, as adversaries. They were serious law enforcement professionals. There was no reason on earth to do anything but beg them to stay. This is disgraceful.

you're ok guest 23
01-19-2006, 07:51 AM
I wasn't a fan of everyone on the list but Biancavilla, Watson and, particularly, Schroeder, were people I knew personally, the hard way, as adversaries. They were serious law enforcement professionals. There was no reason on earth to do anything but beg them to stay. This is disgraceful.

You have just taken note of why many knowledgeable people in the community who do not buy the Newsday line are aghast at Suozzi. Rice is an extension of Suozzi and these moves represent the Suozzification of the DA's Office. The media was relatively silent when these hits took place in County government, when NYC cronies were bussed in by the truckload to fuel Mr. Suozzi's Albany ambitions. Yes, some improvements were made with respect to the County's finances due to the infusion of massive State money from NIFA, the 20% or so real estate tax hike, hidden taxation through increased user fees and the commendable work of some of Suozzi's finance people (many of whom are not here for the second term and who were an improvement over the abysmal lame duck Gulotta finance team). But with respect to operations - from your roadways to your parks - you have witnessed a diminution of services, and a failure to redress long term problems, since the cronies were selected for political reasons, rather than operational.

What is happening in the DA's office is a familiar tale of woe to many of us careful watchers of things in Mineola. You're a big person to acknowledge the issues presented by Ms. Rice. Thank you for keeping an open mind.

guest 23
01-19-2006, 10:41 AM
There are those of us who contributed to the campaign, and urged our friends to vote against Dillon, who thought, or actually believed, that she would view Suozzi and his administration as a big fat target.

That's one reason why I overcame my usual revulsion about Republican opportunistic turncoats recruited by the Democrat party to run.

Serves me right.

Someone I respect very much "told me so" and he was right as right can be.

01-19-2006, 01:21 PM
There are those of us who contributed to the campaign, and urged our friends to vote against Dillon, who thought, or actually believed, that she would view Suozzi and his administration as a big fat target.

That's one reason why I overcame my usual revulsion about Republican opportunistic turncoats recruited by the Democrat party to run.

Serves me right.

Someone I respect very much "told me so" and he was right as right can be.


No. If you are genuinely motivated by a desire for reform, you should never accept "I told you so" from anyone. The world may not be perfect, and our elected officials may not be paragons, but you always need to hope for change. Rice presented with some huge warning signs, but it is easy to be swept up in the excitement of a campaign, especially a winning one. Alot people felt the way you feel about a certain County Executive race in 2001.

warning signs
01-19-2006, 06:17 PM
There were tons of warnings all over these boards about the backroom deals done by Steve S., Bob McD and JJ to starve and then terminate the candidacy of a person with law enforcement credentials who would not agree to patronage or politcal interference with prosecution decisions.

Why did they need to tamper with Rice's voter registration and rig the convention?

Because they could not run the risk of having an honest DA expose the backroom deals.

Guest 23
01-19-2006, 06:26 PM
What was the nature of the tampering?

01-19-2006, 07:14 PM
What was the nature of the tampering?

She was still on the voter rolls as a Republican when she lived in Pilly. Jay Jacobs even was quoted in Newsday stated this fact when they first annonced her candidacy. So her new registration would be considered a party change and would not be effective until November.

When a primary look possible the BOE canceled her old registration but the change does not appear in her record (the BOE system logs all changes made to a record as required by law). But no such "change history" exists on her file which means it was done in a manner to conceal the fact it was done at that time. Except it was loged in a different field on her record on the very day she submitted her new registration.

She should have been a "Republican." The democratic party was so concerned about this situation they submitted an "authorization" with the BOE for her candidancy. A authorization would only be necessary if she was indeed a Republican.

They change her registration in violation of NYS election law. It's clear to anybody who understands the BOE voter system.

01-19-2006, 07:18 PM
The change is more than just a violation of election law. It is a crime to tamper with government records.

Also there is the matter of Fraud which is also a crime.

Sounds like a job for Spitzer or Mauskaupf

or even special prosecutor Spota

01-19-2006, 08:13 PM
check the posts in the "Rice/Roslyn School Scandal" thread.
No doubt this whole matter requires a transfer to the Suffolk DA or to a special prosecutor to investigate and finish. Rice is dirty. Rice's law firm represented the Roslyn District and covered-up the entire theft. To put this case in her office is a violation of numerous ethics and conflict laws.

01-24-2006, 04:46 PM
Go to FBI now!