Nassau GOP Bench Strength

[1Sharpie]

Does the Nassau GOP have any bench strength? Are there Committee men and women who are ready to step up to the plate and run for higher office or is Westbury going to continually go with walk-ons and johnny-come-latelys like O'Grady, Skorski or Chamber of Commerce types like Hudes and McDonough? If there are qualified committee people who are they and what position should they run for?

[Mojo Jojo]

When the decision makers in the party (i.e., the Chairman and his Yes men) are only concerned about rewarding their sycophants, and in running the same stale batch of candidates again, and again, and again, and again, what happens? The committee people become disenchanted because all they get is a hand in their pocket and a slap on the back saying "your time will come". Nonsense. Your time will never come. Big Joe will run the likes of Diamond, Gewanter, Alonge, Ricigliano again and again and again. Anyone want to lay a wager on seeing Grella's name on the ballot again? Of course not. Because you know that he'll be back. So much for Big Joe's proclamation about the voters having spoken.
Soon all those carrying the water, raising the money and getting the signatures will get wise to the dead end that is the Big Joe's GOP machine. Wake up!

[Resigned GOPer]

Which is a big reason why many good Republican attorney's simply send a letter to 164 Post Ave that reads "I Quit" and then sign on with the other party in town.

It certainly doesn't help that someone like Charles J. Fuschillo, Jr. moves into the district months before Sen. Levy dies and is annointed his successor over the hard working Committeemen and Women in Merrick. Another one who never contributed a dollar to party coffers, yet is deemed by the Bosses as a "loyal devoted party supporter".

My goodness, he didn't even attend the revered Senator Levy's funeral.

[Resigned GOPer]

They have no bench strength, the party has largely eviscerated itself and once all the money is spent they've got nothing!

$500,000 deducted from their accounts just to hold on to the no-name judges they put up on the ballot last year. That's a lot of dough for nought.

The Emperor has fewer and fewer clothes every day that passes.

[1Sharpie]

Am I wrong, but isn't the committee structure set up to nurture potential candidates as well as to serve as a place for career republicans to "pay their dues." It seems that the rank and file who are out in the field, knocking on doors and speaking with the people on the street, learn the nuts and bolts of campaigning. It seems that the party would want to go there for potential candidates. If not, Westbury has lost a valuable source and is not doing its job correctly. Are there any good players in the minor leagues?

[Mojo Jojo]

There is no minor leagues. It's Joe's people or no people. Forget Fuschillo, Artie Diamond was a Democratic convert who never bought a ticket or donated a red cent to the party. His buddy Denis Dillon lobbied for him to become a Judge, and whaddaya know, Joe runs him not once, not twice, but three times. He lost all 3. Interesting how Dillon says jump and Joe's response is ALWAYS "how high?"

[Hangerons]

It isn't like the Dems have much bench strength either. They continually run OTB and Board Of Elections workers, with the most minimum of public service credentials. When did the last Board of Ed employee win a race. Same with OTB workers?. They have run some decent judicial candidates and for the most part their incumbent legislators are ok as candidates, but they have really run some losers - mostely otb'ers.

[Spotlight]

Both parties have submitted some real Losers to the bench the last cople of years. they should just cross endorese judges that meet the bar association standards(as they did in the past).

If not, we are destined to see the likes of an Ira Raab or Art Diamond.

(Note for Poster- One judge is a Dem, the other is A Rep.)
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[1Sharpie]

Spotlight, it goes without saying that by "Bench" Strength I'm talking not just about judicial candidates. My question is whether the GOP uses the committee structure to foster candidates for public office (judges are an exception somewhat because of the need to be qualified attorneys). And, if the the structure is used that way, who are the good candidates that the GOP is developing? Or, in the alternative, who are the committee men and women who would be good candidates but are being screwed by the system? Who does the GOP have on the bench, or have all or their potential stars gone to the Dems? (like Skanell)?

[Sharpie]

Thanks for the validation Mr.disgruntled. It's good to know that others feel as I do.

[Resigned GOPers]

When the locals overlook long time committeemembers and go outside the committee structure when opportunities become available, I know for a fact that this turns off the membership.

If the bench strengh is the committee structure and the leadership routinely goes elsewhere for talent then there are two things these committeemembers do. One they sit on their hands, aka 1999, and watch. Or, two, they defect, aka 1991, when Scannel, Tobak, Denenberg and now 2002 (Spinola) break long standing Republican/Conservative associations. There will be others.

The GOP is stupid in the way they treat their "workers", but hell, when it's time for a fundraiser it's pay up!

[martys]

I believe he was a registered blank in Suffolk before he moved to Nassau in 1991. Toback ad Scannell were registered R's.

[1Sharpie]

I think you're right regarding party affiliation but the larger point is why would an ambitious committee person stay if the party is not going to use the structure that served the party so well for decades? It appears that the party either ignores its committee people or has no bench strength. I doubt the latter is true.

[Freedomlover]

That corpulent fellow in Westbury needs to wake up during the night with cold sweats realizing that all the real talent in his party has jumped ship. Committeemen should realize that we're all a bunch of shills. Our leaders hit us up for donation after donation with the promise that our day will come, that "your name is in the file", "you are being considered" and all the rest of the happy horsesh*t. I have already resigned. I worked and gave and gave and worked, and got nothing. Not even a thank you from that fat b**tard in Westbury. He'll keep running Ricigliano, Diamond and all the losers without tapping some new blood -- hell, we can't do any worse. Let Bobby Kumar write checks for the fat bast**d--I'm done. Let his disbarred vice Chairman (or is it Chairman of Vice) give him money...EFF EM BOTH.
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[Resigned GOPer]

Here Here Freedomlover.

Talk about hitting the nail on the head!

One caveat: To ensure continued decline (Democratic improvements), you want Santa to deliver this one wish this holiday season:

Joe Mondello As Chairman!

[Greener Pastures]

Now's the time for the new blood to force the Dem party into policies of fiscal conservatism.

What's left of the Nassau GOP are the liberal tax-and-spenders loyal to King Joe and Prince Tom.

The new Dems can take'em on and WIN!

[1Sharpie]

The Democratic party is hopeless. At least the GOP can be saved from itself if the leaders see that the committee people are not their gofers and some are actually committed to larger political goals. Many committee people are committed to a cause and are not there because they have to be. It would be nice for the GOP in Westbury to recognize this and tap into those people as candidates rather than going outside the system and crushing the spirits of everyone involved.

[Greener Pastures]

Insult what you can't argue against.

You'll have an easier time proving the existence of Santa Claus than getting Post Avenue to take care of its own. You're either part of the clique or not.

Both major parties are prone to infighting. Neither has a clear mission or goal. Both reward cronies instead of workers. With all the defections to the Dems, what's the difference between the two parties now?

[1Sharpie]

With the hiring of Patrick Williams at OTB I'm not sure there is a difference between the parties. For months the Democrats could hold the high ground on taxes and patronage. They could justify the need for hefty tax increases with the belief that the Republicans padded the payroll with patronage. Now, in one incredibly stupid move, the Democrats have ceded that ground without a fight. The Democrats were elected in '01 to change this very sort of thing. They have damaged themselves incalculably. It seems that the one goal of both parties is to take care of their own but not to reward the people who provide the backbone. Philosophy and mission takes a back seat to political expedience.

[Greener Pastures]

I agree with you. A colossally stupid move. It's a sad day for the voters in Nassau County. But will they care come November?


"Bare ruined choirs where late the sweet birds sang..."
-- William Shakespeare (describing voter hopes for changing business as usual in Nassau County)

[Brain Freeze]

My Native American Friend, we agree.

[And What Have we Learned]

And what have we learned?

There is no GOP bench strength.

Where? Oh, where are you, Joe Margiotta? Once you had us covered from cradle to grave.

[gop05]

Well unlike the first JM the Gop leader JM2 the GOP eater does not feel the need for a bench, he thinks all he needs is a family tree.

With the Dems retaining the CE, Comp and TNH this year as well as the leg, maybe some people we make the change Nassau needs. I dont think it was TG who took Nassau down the wrong road as much as it was JM2

By the way we need to find a good candidate for Gov, George is done