Comuter Tax

[helpme]

Isn't it nice that Before the election we heard our Gov. Pataki talk down about the comuter tax. NYC Mayor Bloomberg supporting the Gov. Now after the election NYC Mayor Bloomberg wants to tax us at an astronomical rate while reducing NYC residents Tax. He says an increase in property taxes will off set the NYC decrease. Well unlike Long Island most residents do not own there home. So the vast impact will be a lowering of taxes for the residents of NYC supported by the suburbs. I feel betrayed since I am a party line republican. Skellos, Barra its time to walk the walk. I cannot afford to pay NYC as well as the upcoming Nassau county increases. Gov Pataki we voted for you, do you think we will remember your hand in our pocket just days after this fact, and you telling us not to worry. You didn't need Bloomberg's endorsement that badly!

[CuriousIndy]

I don't think Bloomberg's proposal has a prayer of a chance of getting through the GOP State Senate. Perhaps it is a negotiating ploy (ask more than what you expect to really get, then settle for what you really thought you could get), I am not sure.

Senator Skelos (my state senator), the #2 man in that body, was the leading sponsor of getting the tax repealed in 1999. I recall meeting with him in his office, one-on-one, back in early 1998 and he told me that it was at the top of his legislative agenda. It seemed to me like pie-in-the-sky at the time, but he found his chance to make it happen in May, 1999, when it became a big issue in a special State Assembly(?) election in Rockland County, remember? The Democratic, NYC-led Assembly had always opposed its repeal, but the Democrats in the Assembly were split and the repeal got through. I wrote Skelos afterwards and he even read part of my letter at the bill-signing ceremony at the RVC train station. Too bad I was unable to attend it.

The reinstatement of the Commuter Tax will, in my opinion, NEVER get through the State Senate as long as the GOP controls it. Bloomberg is probably doing this just to score points with the NYC residents, the same way Guiliani was outspoken about the repeal back in 1999.

[nassau1]

How can Bloomie say that the commuter is not contributing when we pay for food keeping small businesses open, after work dinner and drinks keeping bars and restaurants going, money spent shopping in the city and of course, $60 a month on the subways. Most importantly, we are WORKING in the city driving the sputtering economy. 2.7% would be $1,080 a year coming out of my measly $40k salary (I'm 26), on top of commuting costs. Now tell me I'm not paying my fair share.
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[Retired Colonel]

All these "white flight" people who moved to Nassau and Western Suffolk have had a free ride.

I don't live in the City, but it seems fair for New York to get something from these people who take the money and run everyday.

Commuters get their riches, but they are too good to actually live where they work. Meanwhile, they clog the roads with their cars and pollute the air.

Bloomie's plan sounds pretty good!

And to the poster above, buying a Big Mac on your way to the subway is hardly supporting New York's economy.


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[nassau1]

A Big Mac? I spend at least $50 a week in the city, plus all the money I spend in bars and restaurants. 0.45% was somewhat fair, nearly 3% is not. No one said they were "too good" to live in the city. My parents came here because they couldn't afford a nice house in Brooklyn. So get your facts straight and go back to your easy retired lifestyle.
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[edward thomas]

Im glad that Couny Exec Suozzi came out against the tax even tho he wasn Israel with his asistant at the time. (Newsday)

[true GOPer]

Those of us who work in NYC already pay more than enough in taxes. we pay sales tax on what we purchase, some of our companies pay unincorporated business taxes. the food we buy and items we purchase keep people in business and people in jobs they wouldnt have. Manhattan would be a ghost town without people who come in from outside the City borders.

our legislators better not give in to any commuter tax, not 2.7%, not the old .45%, not one cent!! the city is in trouble because they spend too much - the Manhattan Institute released a study the other day that said that tax revenues are up 4.6% this year from last in NYC, if they would keep spending down to 4.6% more than last year they will have no problem!

WRITE YOUR LEGISLATORS, NO TO THE COMMUTER TAX! NO TO TOLLS ON THE FREE BRIDGES!! WE PAY ENOUGH!!
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[Retired Colonel]

As you probably figured out from my previous post, I work (actually, worked, my company moved to NJ) in NYC when I wrote Senator Skelos about this topc and when I visited his office.

Many of those who advocate restoring the Commuter Tax claim that whose who work in NYC but don't live in NYC use the city's municipal services (i.e. police, fire). If this is true, then shouldn't these same people get a discount on their own local taxes because they are a lesser burden on those same municipal services when they are not in their home areas all day long? And if the Commuter Tax is restored, shouldn't the suburban counties place a commuter tax on non-residents who work in their counties for the same reason?

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[Taxpayer]

All the more reason for a regional income tax tied to a commensurate reduction in property taxes.

Broader more progressive taxation tied to an inflation responsive income stream to replace a regressive tax that does not include renters, transients and many others just passing through who use municipal services.

And, to account for a down turn in revenues due to a fall in the economy - an income tax reserve fund.

Do the math, property tax payers save money on an income tax arrangement and municipalities can't play one off the other.
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[TAXMAN]

how about letting everyone pay the commuter tax and then double their energy tax?
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[Too Taxing]

And of course no one dare mention the waste, cronyism, crrruppption and patronage in the local schools, which really account for the tax hit around here.

The gop talks big about high taxes when it's Suozzi's 19.4% (on 20% of the total bill) over three years. But they shut up fast when schools do 8% each (on 65% of the total bill) and every year.

I say we put McDonough's head on that puppet he sent around and replace Sheldon Silver with Mike Bloomberg/Rudy Giuliani two headed monster. Seee how those Republican hypocrites like that.

"Dave McDonough, member of a party who's leadership wants to impose a commuter tax." or better yet and more timely "Angie Cullin, enrolled member of a party who's top leadership favors the commuter tax."

[VS Worker]

As a supporter of Jim Darcy, it is refreshing to see him take the lead, at least locally, in the fight against the commuter tax. I heard that he has been out getting signatures against the commuter tax. He has my vote.

[Commuter tax and Cullin]

Angie Cullin is no more against the commuter tax than her friend, the Republican Mayor of New York, and the former Republican Mayor of New York.

This all just P.R., she couldn't care less. Heck, she didn't even know the LIRR switched to electric trains.

[concernedcitizen]

Bellmore Train Rider:

Can you please update us on Denenberg's meeting? And also give us a summary of what exactly he is looking to do. Thanks in advance.

[Unregistered@!]

How 'bout taxing the air they breath? You NYers consume far too much oxygen.

[Unwtf?]

How 'bout taxing the air they breath? You NYers consume far too much oxygen.

You dug up a lame 6 year old thread for that??? Get lost!

[Unregistered1112]

All these "white flight" people who moved to Nassau and Western Suffolk have had a free ride.

I don't live in the City, but it seems fair for New York to get something from these people who take the money and run everyday.

Commuters get their riches, but they are too good to actually live where they work. Meanwhile, they clog the roads with their cars and pollute the air.

Bloomie's plan sounds pretty good!

And to the poster above, buying a Big Mac on your way to the subway is hardly supporting New York's economy.



You want to know the real reason why they commute? They can't get jobs out here. Take the Town of Hempstead, for instance. Almost everyone who works there is related to someone else who works there (Kate Murray-Norm Murray; Joe Ra-Ed Ra, just for starters). And getting their riches? Clerk IV makes over $80K; Receptionist-Pool makes $60K; Groundskeeper makes $80K; Sanitation Workers make $65-70K; A mini-bus driver makes $65K; Kate's secretary makes over $104K and her dad makes over $130K. These employees also get benefits for life - that includes health insurance. The "commuters" are the ones who, through property taxes and town taxes, pay the salaries of these people.