2003

[Pollster]

And for my next project....making the Town of Hempstead safe for Democracy.

Care to help?

Ring me up.
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[Another Voice]

Ten years ago, the County had a hgh bond rating, as well, but that passed rather quickly because of mismanagemt, no show jobs, unwise contracts, bloated payroll, lack of maintenance, and on and on. The Town of Hempstead has many of the same problems, and what's worse, they have many of the same political hacks that destroyed the County.

If the Town of Hempstead is destroyed, it won't be because of anything that Dems do.

[Accountant]

Ms. Spotlight:

If you knew that the Town of Hempstead has accumulated surplus in their main operating accounts that currently total $102.5 million (according to the 2001 audited financial statement done by the town itself) do you think property taxes should be raised by 5%?

Would you prefer a tax cut, or a tax hike?

Spotlight is clueless, she will charactize this as a lie, but it is not - just ask Richie as you pass him in the hall or check the record yourself.

I concur with Pollster.

[Another Voice]

As I understand it, most of the surplus is in special districs and not in general operating accounts. Can someone clarify?

[Accountant]

$30 mil - general fund.

$73 mil - Town Approved Special Districts.

Anyway you look at it, is a tax hike financially necessary?

[Spotlight]

Accountant, please never run for office or attempt to run a corporation. Your financial skills are poor.

Costs have a tendency to rise, and if you do not prepare for it, you will caught with your pants down, and even worse, no cash on hand.

Didn't you see the County Exec crying about all those mandates.

The town nominal tax increase, is a good way to retain there financial stability. That is why several Wall Street financial groups have the Town's bond rating at the higest in the State.

In addition, to say, well the County went bad so will the town, is just pathetic. Face it boys, the town's financial base is solid as a rock. Criticing the tax increase wont even work because the residents will accept it in order to keep up teh good finances(also helps in borrowing for major projects). better have better issues than that next year.

P.S. Pat, I know you hate a woman in power, and to make matters worse, I'm in the private sector with a company which earns profits. Sorry for your ego.
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[Lawyer]

Not only was a tax hike not warranted (although it is pretty trivial) but no one is looking at the expense side of their ledger. The TOH is filthy with patronage - 12 Deputy parks Commissioners - 2 Parks cleaners for every mid size park - attendants in parks that see 6 visitors a day - 4 guys on every garbage truck - one who goes home if the other three show up. Yet, with all this patronage, they are months behind on issuing building permits, because if they computerize it would mean the loss of jobs.

[West End Guy 17]

Give me a break, the Town has the highest bond rating in the state, but I guess the Dems think that is not important. So you would rather have a new Town Board to do what? Ruin what we have left? No thanks, I will vote to keep our Councilmembers in office. Best bond rating, great programs and parks will ensure the return of OUR poeple.

[GeorgeWBush]

and as much as I like how the state of the TOH looks, it is still funny/disturbing as hell to have my friends tell me about their jobs in the parks departments where their 6 hour shift consists of 1 hour of work, 3 hours of sitting on their asses, 2 hours of football/video games, and then finally being dismissed to go home while still on the payroll.

We should probably fix that utter waste before raising taxes.

[eduardo]

The Legislature is up for grabs and so is the Assessors seat and so are the judgeships. Anyone's game if the tax issue is the ISSUE.

[Intruder]

Finances are good over in TOH. Residents are happy(As seen from last few town elections and this years results in town voting). Stories of video games won't be enough.

Still, watch out for the Oshea factor, he could drag everyone down with him.

[jj]

Now that you once again failed in 02, your next agenda is the TOH, why not have the balls to run Pat, let the voters see who you are. Isn't is about time you come out? By reading all of your crap on this site, why not run, since you live in bellmore, run against Angie Cullin or better yet, since you have all the answers run against Richard Guardino, Come on big Mouth, why not for once and for all shut up or put up?
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[West of 135]

Why would the Dems want to run Hoey. Hell, we like the guy now ( a lot ), but he can distract so many more of you GOP bootlickers, by remaining behind the scenes and feeding us non-public information. Why should Pat run and influence only one Town Council Race, when he can have input into 3 town races, and 19 legislative races and the Assessor's race. The reason Hoey upsets you so much, is that he knows where Mondello's skeletons are buried. From what I understand, he helped bury a great number of those skeletons. If Hoey were to run, you would muster all your efforts and likely defeat him, but with Pat behind the scenes, you have to find him first. He scares you, and you know it. His very existence has your beloved assessor, Charles O'Shea quaking in his boots.

2003 is going to be a lot of fun - even more so with Pat Hoey on our side. You're not even going to see him coming. Its a new Nassau.
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[Spotlight]

The problem with Pat is he is to scared to take a chance. Your right, he was always better at sitting behind the brave candidate who could win or lose.

As you see on the boarrd, he bravely stays behind various names touting himself. Unfortunately, his arrogance shines through each time.

As for skeletons, from what I hear, Pat has a few himself. thats why he know's he could never win an election.

And face it, the guy is not a candidate. take one look at him and you would know why.
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[Campaign Manager]

Coattails? Where?

Pataki 49%, Faso 47%, Barra 58%, Balboni 66%, Grella 46%.

McCall 33%, Hill 78%, Moore 38%, Weisenberg 76%, Dwyer 55%.

Coattails? Where? Someone point them out to me.

Town of Hempstead:

Very strange balance sheet. $102 million surplus...5% tax hike. Awkward position for Republicans, on opposite sides of two core principles....higher spending and higher taxes at the same time. Correct classification: tax and spend - and throw a couple of social issues into the mix: abortion & gay rights support - and what do you have?

Tax and Spend Liberals.

I can run against that.

[West End Guy 17]

Then why dont you make a run, we would love to see that.

[Cmp Mgr]

Sensing the erosion of GOP support in the West End of the Town of Hempstead, (judging by the expansion of Queens based Assembly Districts along the frontier and the declining number of committeemen - as well as the increase in the number of husband/wife committeemen teams, which masks additional decline) the once-high-and-mighty GOP is feeling a little less sure of themselves these days.

Getting a little nervous are we?

Hey, why not switch to the fiscally conservative side of the political ledger. Putting your patronage job asside for a moment, why support the GOP tax and spend liberals?

[West End Guy 17]

You are aware that there is not a 102 million dollar surplus, right?? And you are aware that the 4% tax increase does not apply to incorporated villages, right?? But you knew that already. And you are also aware that if the Town does not raise taxes they would be in the same boat as the County. So why dont you complain about the County's reassessment that went wrong, supported by the Dems and Newsday. It was the Dems who voted for it, and it actually did nothing to help the people of the County. Nobody is going to complain about a small tax increase to keep the Town in good standing. So if you want to talk about tax and spend, ask Suozzi why he has raised taxes over 20% and increased spending as well. That is tax and spend my friend. Sorry Camp Mngr, your stories don't fly.

[edward thomas]

Could go up in 2004.

[West of 135]

West End Guy - What have you been smoking. Nassau County was sued because its old method of reassessment was unfair to many different areas of the County. On the eve of trial, the 3 people charged with the control of the case - Thomas Gulotta, Charles O'Shea, and County Attorney Samenga lost their nerve, and enterred into a consent settlement agreement with the plaintiffs in that lawsuit. Reassessment was necessary - assuming the intent of taxation was not to give windfalls to Republican Strongholds such as Lynbrook, Rockville Centre, Point Lookout, Garden City, Point Lookout etc. Virtually everyone but Peter Schmitt thought it was necessary, because otherwise the County would have to continue paying out 100 million a year in tax cert. refunds. The implementation of reassessment was all Gulotta and O'Shea. They put out the RFP. They chose The Contractor - whose name will live in infamy - and O'Shea has supervised the entire process almost single handedly. You can't blame the Dems for the reassessment debacle. They didn't create the problem that it was intended to fix; they didn't choose to settle the lawsuit; they didn't choose the terms of the settlement: they didn't draft the RFP; they didn't choose contractor: they didn't oversee the contractor; and they couldn't force O'Shea to make the necessary changes. The only Dem involvement was to appropriate the money to pay for O'Shea's handpicked contractor. You lose the little credibility that you have attacking the Dems on Reassessment.
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[Campaign Manager]

West End Guy questions the numbers, as well he should.

According to the Town of Hempstead's Audited Financial Statements provided by Albrecht, Viggiano, Zureck & Company (AKA the Town's accountants) there is a 2001 surplus of $102.5 million. This is public information that even the factually challenged Mike Deery must confirm.

The surplus has climbed steadily, amounting to 39.7 mil in 1995 to the 102.5 mil today. This suggests that the surplus is based on structural factors - like unnecessarily high taxes compared to spending, or conversely, underspending compared to the level of taxation (which is poor public management).

Now, the national Republicans just got through waging a successful campaign based in part on the claim that the liberal Democrats will raise taxes. Can you imagine the response of local Republicans when they find out their Repulbican officials are raising them too. Betrayed is not too mild a word to describe the expected backlash, under the right campaign management conditions.

"With Lots Of Money In The Bank, They Still Want More!"

Sounds like something to run on. Won't you join us, you can be there at the creation Mr. West End Guy - get in on the ground floor. Unless you're already on the top floor, in which case it is a long way down.

[West of 135]

Camp Manager - You've convinced me - When do we start.
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[Spotlight]

I see alot of similarities of the posts of Pollster, Campaign manager and West of 135.

Wonder who that could be?
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[West of 135]

I wish to assure you that West of 135 is a different individual from either campaign manager or pollster. We do, however, share a political philosopy which includes calling attention to the ineptitude of Thomas Gulotta, Charles O'Shea, and the current Republican Legislators - all of whom are Joe Mondello Bootlickers or Peter Schmitt for brains ass-kissers. Moreover - we share a distrust for the TOH leaders and their voodoo economics, which includes paying dozens (if not 100's) of friend and family to work a few hours a day. I think we also envision a brighter future where public officials are elected because of what they individually bring to the table, and not the party that they belong to.

I think where we differ is that I have always been this way (and proud of it).
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[Spotlight]

West, I am sorry I tied you in with the other person. I just hope you were not the individual who made that pethic insulting thread before.

Anyway, I differ with you on SOME issues. Others we might agree on, but i don't think we need to call people bootlickers ass-kissers. You make your posts and support them with facts. Thats the way to build support for your topics.

Be above that other poster, I know you can.
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[West of 135]

Don't let it happen again : )

I don't know how I'm going to post on this site if I can't use the terms "bootlickers" and "ass-kissers". I think, however, I can support with facts the argument that many (not all) of the current GOP hierarchy have gotten there by engaging in one of the aforesaid acts with one or more of the folks higher up on the list.

I will try and use less sharp rhetoric, but please note, I'm not always looking to build support for my positions. Sometimes, I just want to vent.


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