Town Of Brookhaven Gop Leadership Change

[Prophet]

Ok Brookhaven Republicans how lethargic can you possibly be? when are we gonna rise up and oust Gene and Charlie as our leaders? The fact that we haven't already shows the laziness that's set in the Brookhaven Republican mind set. We need a leadership team that is going to motivate and bring the factions together....... it's time brothers and sister Repubs new year fresh start, let's oust these guys

[Tim J]

Might be over. This year might have marked the end of the Brookhaven GOP. All the scandals and the corruption may have sealed the GOP's fate. They need to completley regroup which takes a long time, and the possibility does exists for those associated with the GOP in Brookhaven to remain in the headlines with their scandal problems long after they are out of office and that will make things even harder for them to rebuild. Not to mention the ball is in part in the Dems hands right now, like him or not when the GOP handed Nassau County over to the Dems & Suozzi they took the ball and ran with it (and the voters liked it) if the Brookhaven Dems to even close to the same, it is going to be a long time before the GOP is back in power in Brookhaven

[quote="Tim J"]Might be over. This year might have marked the end of the Brookhaven GOP. All the scandals and the corruption may have sealed the GOP's fate. They need to completley regroup which takes a long time, and the possibility does exists for those associated with the GOP in Brookhaven to remain in the headlines with their scandal problems long after they are out of office and that will make things even harder for them to rebuild. Not to mention the ball is in part in the Dems hands right now, like him or not when the GOP handed Nassau County over to the Dems & Suozzi they took the ball and ran with it (and the voters liked it) if the Brookhaven Dems to even close to the same, it is going to be a long time before the GOP is back in power in Brookhaven[/quoteI]

I fear that you are right unfortunatly

[New Leaders Now]

The GOP has to take a long hard look at itself here. We need for young people to take the reins from the older generation and come back squeeky clean. Who has the guts to do it?

The GOP has to take a long hard look at itself here. We need for young people to take the reins from the older generation and come back squeeky clean. Who has the guts to do it?
How about the ticket salesman guy who got snagged in the Parks department, forgot his name i worked with him on Dougie Siegels campaign against Kathy Walsh I know his name was on almost every Dem printed add during the campaign and ya know what he worked on Decarlos campaign as well i dont have his last name Frank somethin he'd love to lead the new march forward

[pksguy]

Leadership ! They really need to go ! Gene and Charlie do the honorable thing LEAVE ! Every candidate you put up lost again....

[Gene and Charlie!]

We need help out here. Lets start over, ask the committeemen for input and run QUALIFIED candidates and take this town back. Now before its too late! I can't understand why we continue to put up the same old people and same old names. Look for fresh blood.

[Brookhaven Bob]

Resign and start over. New leadership Now!

[pksguy]

gene and charlie need to suck more out of the party before they leave. We need and want a change.....resign

[Edna]

You're all crying but no one has any ideas on what to do but get rid of Charlie and Gene. Putting in younger people who have no experience or political saavy will not help. It will make it worse. You need to get a big gun political analyst in to tell you what you need to do. Too bad the party's bankrupt because you need professional help.

You're all crying but no one has any ideas on what to do but get rid of Charlie and Gene. Putting in younger people who have no experience or political saavy will not help. It will make it worse. You need to get a big gun political analyst in to tell you what you need to do. Too bad the party's bankrupt because you need professional help.

I think what you say has some merit to it, i do think we need a good solid advisor to straighten this fractured party out. But i believe many people have had it with Gene and Charlie, they are staying away till there gone and that hurt us bad this past election we were so under staffed and fundraisers that Gene and Charlie were part of had low attendance (this usually doesnt happen in our party) I'm sure we have our future leader somewhere amongst us but we have to clear the way for him or her to step forward we must end this awful leadership we currently have

[ghost of nixon]

the harder they come the harder they fall. the stink of the republican empire (fallen) was too much. how long will the new empire last? meet the new boss, same as the old boss. dems and reps dont represent the common folk, just check at EVERY level of govt. we will get fooled again! it seems that the american people need to led by people who do not represent what is in the best interest to our country, osama would be proud of the ammunition america gives him.

the harder they come the harder they fall. the stink of the republican empire (fallen) was too much. how long will the new empire last? meet the new boss, same as the old boss. dems and reps dont represent the common folk, just check at EVERY level of govt. we will get fooled again! it seems that the american people need to led by people who do not represent what is in the best interest to our country, osama would be proud of the ammunition america gives him.

errrrr uhhhh like wow man thats deep like "the who" and stuff man that's heavy i'm almost like speechless gnarley man how into the main line of the american vibe you are brah peace man see you at yazgers

[rasta mon vibrations]

the harder they come the harder they fall. the stink of the republican empire (fallen) was too much. how long will the new empire last? meet the new boss, same as the old boss. dems and reps dont represent the common folk, just check at EVERY level of govt. we will get fooled again! it seems that the american people need to led by people who do not represent what is in the best interest to our country, osama would be proud of the ammunition america gives him.

errrrr uhhhh like wow man thats deep like "the who" and stuff man that's heavy i'm almost like speechless gnarley man how into the main line of the american vibe you are brah peace man see you at yazgers


Hey Mon, you must smokin dah ganja mon. Mon, you missed the obvious reference to Reggae founder Jimmy Cliff mon.

[just a guest]

You whiners are really so pathetic. If you are unhappy with the way things are going, why don't you get involved with the Republican organization and effectuate change in a positive way? Or are you all part of that bunch of losers calling themselves the NEW Brookhaven Republicans..........yeah lets follow the crowd who have as part of their executive board non other than Al (convicted felon) Breud and Doug (primary loser) Segall, and of course Legislator Dan Losquadro who had his staff helping Lori Baldassare against Kevin McCarrick in the last election. These are shining Republican examples. And especially Mr. DiCarlo, who comes out of the woodwork after being run out of Brooklyn by the Republican party there.....and decides that he is going to lead us to victory. If he really knew anything, he would have known that after losing his primary he should have grabbed his band of merrymen and got behind the Repubilcan candidates, put midget Lavalle in his place and we might have won..........THEN AND ONLY THEN would he have been in a proven position to ask for the support of the Republican party. And as for losing the town...........who cares. What did we lose, patronage??? The party didn't have it anyway! Lavalle filled the positions with his own people, many from other towns anyway. The majority of the people that lost their jobs did NOTHING for the Brookhaven Republican party. They were only worried about John Lavalle...they got what they deserved. This past election only proved what happens when there is party in fighting. The Republicans came out to vote alright........They simply decided to vote for the other guy because we were too busy fighting with ourselves. Who cares who the leader is now? Why don't you all start thinking about what can be done to reach out to the voters and start preparing candidates to run in two years/??? Why not get involved at the County level if you hate Gene Gerrard and Charlie Lefkowitz that much? If you keep on this track of divisiveness in the Brookhaven party, NOBODY WINS> Haven't we had enough of that under the Lavalle/Gerrard years???? Why not have everyone come back together and then worry about who is going to be the leader next time around???? There needs to be a Party first for someone to be able to lead it!

You whiners are really so pathetic. If you are unhappy with the way things are going, why don't you get involved with the Republican organization and effectuate change in a positive way? Or are you all part of that bunch of losers calling themselves the NEW Brookhaven Republicans..........yeah lets follow the crowd who have as part of their executive board non other than Al (convicted felon) Breud and Doug (primary loser) Segall, and of course Legislator Dan Losquadro who had his staff helping Lori Baldassare against Kevin McCarrick in the last election. These are shining Republican examples. And especially Mr. DiCarlo, who comes out of the woodwork after being run out of Brooklyn by the Republican party there.....and decides that he is going to lead us to victory. If he really knew anything, he would have known that after losing his primary he should have grabbed his band of merrymen and got behind the Repubilcan candidates, put midget Lavalle in his place and we might have won..........THEN AND ONLY THEN would he have been in a proven position to ask for the support of the Republican party. And as for losing the town...........who cares. What did we lose, patronage??? The party didn't have it anyway! Lavalle filled the positions with his own people, many from other towns anyway. The majority of the people that lost their jobs did NOTHING for the Brookhaven Republican party. They were only worried about John Lavalle...they got what they deserved. This past election only proved what happens when there is party in fighting. The Republicans came out to vote alright........They simply decided to vote for the other guy because we were too busy fighting with ourselves. Who cares who the leader is now? Why don't you all start thinking about what can be done to reach out to the voters and start preparing candidates to run in two years/??? Why not get involved at the County level if you hate Gene Gerrard and Charlie Lefkowitz that much? If you keep on this track of divisiveness in the Brookhaven party, NOBODY WINS> Haven't we had enough of that under the Lavalle/Gerrard years???? Why not have everyone come back together and then worry about who is going to be the leader next time around???? There needs to be a Party first for someone to be able to lead it!

besides the pathetic whiner part you make good points, i totally agree with you here's where i'm seeing a problem however heading into the future, i'm open to your opinion or take on this.
we have many Republican clubs throughout the township and this is where alot of people start climbing the ranks to potentiel future candacy etc.. but i'm noticing that sooo many of these clubs exec boards are the very ones who wreaked havoc on our party to begin with many as you say had marching orders from Lavalle and many with marching orders from Gerard but they are still in place tainting the future or at least immidiate future of the party. A great example of this came to me via a friend in the Great South Bay Republican Club. That club had strong membership and active members but the leadership turned members off, The officers of the club appointed the next governing board and onward goes the depletion of the club... this process is happening in so many Republican clubs and it's like a mini version of what's happening in the big picture with the Republican party.. I truly believe that a leadership change has to happen to severe ties to these old school worms still in the system, I dont have a name off hand i've been thinking alot about it lately but I agree with you this NEW REPUBLICAN Party upstart thing is pathetic when you look at the executive board you'd have to be totally naive to believe your heading into something new with names like Breud, Lasquadro, Siegal, Columbo, sheesh who would find anything NEW about that line up? that's a fast track ticket to no change at all but this is the case in the Republican club circuit as well look at ward 5 That Ed R osavitch guy sheesh this guy is a one man wrecking ball He just descimated the volunteer base that was established for local candidates in ward 5 he has two cronies, some guy named Brady and his personal puppet Gerry somethin ?? they are like a cancer they are on every board, filled ward 5 with hamlet captains that were complete no shows during the elections, they were no shows before the elections as well they never did a thing except for a small hand full of deserving Captains..... this stuff may seem very small potatoes but it's not, it has a very profound effect in each ward...... Ward leaders must go when the leadership changes so we can be sure that the "NEW" beginning we eventually embark on trickles down to each wards local level. What do you think? agree or disagree?

re: ward 5 - are you referring to Brian Brady?

[guest99]

You whiners are really so pathetic. If you are unhappy with the way things are going, why don't you get involved with the Republican organization and effectuate change in a positive way? Or are you all part of that bunch of losers calling themselves the NEW Brookhaven Republicans..........yeah lets follow the crowd who have as part of their executive board non other than Al (convicted felon) Breud and Doug (primary loser) Segall, and of course Legislator Dan Losquadro who had his staff helping Lori Baldassare against Kevin McCarrick in the last election. These are shining Republican examples. And especially Mr. DiCarlo, who comes out of the woodwork after being run out of Brooklyn by the Republican party there.....and decides that he is going to lead us to victory. If he really knew anything, he would have known that after losing his primary he should have grabbed his band of merrymen and got behind the Repubilcan candidates, put midget Lavalle in his place and we might have won..........THEN AND ONLY THEN would he have been in a proven position to ask for the support of the Republican party. And as for losing the town...........who cares. What did we lose, patronage??? The party didn't have it anyway! Lavalle filled the positions with his own people, many from other towns anyway. The majority of the people that lost their jobs did NOTHING for the Brookhaven Republican party. They were only worried about John Lavalle...they got what they deserved. This past election only proved what happens when there is party in fighting. The Republicans came out to vote alright........They simply decided to vote for the other guy because we were too busy fighting with ourselves. Who cares who the leader is now? Why don't you all start thinking about what can be done to reach out to the voters and start preparing candidates to run in two years/??? Why not get involved at the County level if you hate Gene Gerrard and Charlie Lefkowitz that much? If you keep on this track of divisiveness in the Brookhaven party, NOBODY WINS> Haven't we had enough of that under the Lavalle/Gerrard years???? Why not have everyone come back together and then worry about who is going to be the leader next time around???? There needs to be a Party first for someone to be able to lead it!

besides the pathetic whiner part you make good points, i totally agree with you here's where i'm seeing a problem however heading into the future, i'm open to your opinion or take on this.
we have many Republican clubs throughout the township and this is where alot of people start climbing the ranks to potentiel future candacy etc.. but i'm noticing that sooo many of these clubs exec boards are the very ones who wreaked havoc on our party to begin with many as you say had marching orders from Lavalle and many with marching orders from /////////xxxxx but they are still in place tainting the future or at least immidiate future of the party. A great example of this came to me via a friend in the Great South Bay Republican Club. That club had strong membership and active members but the leadership turned members off, The officers of the club appointed the next governing board and onward goes the depletion of the club... this process is happening in so many Republican clubs and it's like a mini version of what's happening in the big picture with the Republican party.. I truly believe that a leadership change has to happen to severe ties to these old school worms still in the system, I dont have a name off hand i've been thinking alot about it lately but I agree with you this NEW REPUBLICAN Party upstart thing is pathetic when you look at the executive board you'd have to be totally naive to believe your heading into something new with names like Breud, Lasquadro, Siegal, Columbo, sheesh who would find anything NEW about that line up? that's a fast track ticket to no change at all but this is the case in the Republican club circuit as well look at ward 5 That Ed R osavitch guy sheesh this guy is a one man wrecking ball He just descimated the volunteer base that was established for local candidates in ward 5 he has two cronies, some guy named Brady and his personal puppet Gerry somethin ?? they are like a cancer they are on every board, filled ward 5 with hamlet captains that were complete no shows during the elections, they were no shows before the elections as well they never did a thing except for a small hand full of deserving Captains..... this stuff may seem very small potatoes but it's not, it has a very profound effect in each ward...... Ward leaders must go when the leadership changes so we can be sure that the "NEW" beginning we eventually embark on trickles down to each wards local level. What do you think? agree or disagree? YOU SAID IT ALL...GUEST.

[Guest50]

Ed Rosavitch is a loyal hardworking guy who brings in a lot of money for the party. The DiCarlo faction on the North Shore consists of people that did more harm to Republicans in this last election than we can imagine. I agree with Edna that we need a professional political analyst to get this party back on track. In absence of an analyst, the committee people are where it has to start. The committee people have had it. Clubs have dwindled down to nothing and with leadership in la la land, the Republicans are sunk. Without the committee people, there is no party. We need a guy who has organizational skills to run things. To organize the committee people. That person doesn't have to be a town or county leader. Just a person who knows how to manage a business. One of the major obstacles right now is that there is so much in fighting, no matter who would be willing to take on this thankless task, committee people will pitch a bitch about it. Forget about getting rid of Gene and Charlie, cause it ain't happening. So, realize there is strength in numbers, get organized with a Committee President, VP, etc. to represent the committee people and you'd be back in business. You would have the strength to tell the leaders you will not, as an organization carry petitions for people like LoSquadro because he has a Democratic aide, a job that should have been given to a Republican. You will not suppport candidates who do not have the Republican ideals, etc. But every committee person would have to commit to stand united. Committee people could vote on their issues and would commit to stick with it, and hand it to the leaders. Committee people would then have their say in how their party runs. Create your own set of by-laws, or if you have to call by-laws by another name, call them "guidelines" or "rules". You wouldn't individually hand over your proxies to the leaders, the Committee President would after the committee voted on it. There are ways to get around any legalities concerning wording. Do you know what power you would have? You people would be running the party instead of a handful of leaders who don't do what's best for the party. You'd take back your party.

Ed Rosavitch is a loyal hardworking guy who brings in a lot of money for the party. The DiCarlo faction on the North Shore consists of people that did more harm to Republicans in this last election than we can imagine. I agree with Edna that we need a professional political analyst to get this party back on track. In absence of an analyst, the committee people are where it has to start. The committee people have had it. Clubs have dwindled down to nothing and with leadership in la la land, the Republicans are sunk. Without the committee people, there is no party. We need a guy who has organizational skills to run things. To organize the committee people. That person doesn't have to be a town or county leader. Just a person who knows how to manage a business. One of the major obstacles right now is that there is so much in fighting, no matter who would be willing to take on this thankless task, committee people will pitch a bitch about it. Forget about getting rid of Gene and Charlie, cause it ain't happening. So, realize there is strength in numbers, get organized with a Committee President, VP, etc. to represent the committee people and you'd be back in business. You would have the strength to tell the leaders you will not, as an organization carry petitions for people like LoSquadro because he has a Democratic aide, a job that should have been given to a Republican. You will not suppport candidates who do not have the Republican ideals, etc. But every committee person would have to commit to stand united. Committee people could vote on their issues and would commit to stick with it, and hand it to the leaders. Committee people would then have their say in how their party runs. Create your own set of by-laws, or if you have to call by-laws by another name, call them "guidelines" or "rules". You wouldn't individually hand over your proxies to the leaders, the Committee President would after the committee voted on it. There are ways to get around any legalities concerning wording. Do you know what power you would have? You people would be running the party instead of a handful of leaders who don't do what's best for the party. You'd take back your party.

very good i like your points, it's a tough format you mention but i like it I disagree with you on Ed Rosavitch, they guy is at Everything yes, BUT he has done nothing but surround himself with cronies who are all old school AND he has complete disregard for the committee people under him thats why only two maybe 3 were named hamlet captains, what an insult to those who have been there doing it for years he brought in total outsiders as hamlet leaders and they were nowhere to be found during campaign season he is Gene G's puppet and he must go then you'll see how loyal he really is. But once again your ideas would work well if they can be implemented

[pksguy]

Ed is a RAT !!!! He turns in his own !!! Does anyone have cheese to feed the rat. He f---ed up Conklins campaign !

Ed is a RAT !!!! He turns in his own !!! Does anyone have cheese to feed the rat. He f---ed up Conklins campaign !

There seems to be ALOT of Rats in Brookhaven.. Some have been exterminated but some are still alive and kicking.

Ed is a RAT !!!! He turns in his own !!! Does anyone have cheese to feed the rat. He f---ed up Conklins campaign !

YEAH PKSgy you rock bro you tell it straight up!!!!

[Whats the Deal?]

Is There Change Coming Or Are We Gonna Let the Opposition Take Us TOTALLY OUT?

[The Delta]

.... cannot stand.
That being said, it is important to see what changes are going to come from the Brookhaven GOP attempting to restructure itself. It only gets one chance at this. If committepersons or the general public feel that this is not a sincere attempt to right a listing ship, then, boys and girls, last one out, turn out the lights. They are looking for people to participate in a restructuring of the town committee. I, for one, am willing to give them a shot. If they do not seem genuine, then I am going to be out of there. However, if they do try to make changes (and remember, any change is difficult and never going to be fast enough for everyone), then whomever stays with the "New Republicans" is a traitor to the GOP cause. Now, before someone attacks me (favorite pastime of this board), I feel that if the Brookhaven GOP board doesn't attempt to impliment change, then they are traitors as well. And everyone knows there is only one punishment for treason. But in this case, it would only be removing the chair and co-chair from their office. There would be no other choice at that time.
There are clubs that are trying to bring in fresh blood. Someone mentioned the Great South Bay club: they are putting younger members, ones not employed by the town (amazingly enough), into leadership positions. To the guest who wrote about them, maybe you should check them out again. Small changes, when you add them up across this town, are the only way to effect large change. You can either be a part of that change, or you can anonymously complain about the situation on this board and do nothing about it. The choice is yours.

[GOP REBUILD]

Is there any way we can rebuild this party. Who is the person to do it? Will Withers help us can he give us resources.

[just another guest]

We cannot leave it to someone else to provide the resources. This Republican Party is made up of elected committee members and other volunteers. THese are the people that must make it happen. They have to make up their minds that another loss is unacceptable and that the party is bigger than the chair or vice chair. People can sit on the sidelines and complain (as seen here on these message board every single day) or they can get out there and get involved with the party and be part of making the changes. Its that simple. As for "resources"......as in money....it's time to face the facts.........we aren't going to raise much because we've lost too many elected positions... Its going to take hard work, but Republican policies should appeal to the Brookhaven voters. Let them have a year of Foley and his crew....during that time we'd better work our asses off and clean house.....put up qualified candidates and take back the town. THEN .....worry about who is the right leader from that point.

[prophet]

We cannot leave it to someone else to provide the resources. This Republican Party is made up of elected committee members and other volunteers. THese are the people that must make it happen. They have to make up their minds that another loss is unacceptable and that the party is bigger than the chair or vice chair. People can sit on the sidelines and complain (as seen here on these message board every single day) or they can get out there and get involved with the party and be part of making the changes. Its that simple. As for "resources"......as in money....it's time to face the facts.........we aren't going to raise much because we've lost too many elected positions... Its going to take hard work, but Republican policies should appeal to the Brookhaven voters. Let them have a year of Foley and his crew....during that time we'd better work our asses off and clean house.....put up qualified candidates and take back the town. THEN .....worry about who is the right leader from that point.

i agree with most of what you said BUT the leadership has to change first, dont you see that people (Republicans) are fed up with these guys Gene and Charlie commitee persons have been disrespected and ignored You say get out there and get involved, but dont you see or realize that the chair steers the ship and the ship is out of control most people i talk to want a fresh start, they want to be heard the same quagmire is restarting itself all over again Gene and Charlie are appointing their loyalists NOT the people who volunteer for everything and have put in so much hard work, Hamlet captains have been selected who have zero time of hard work for our Brookhaven Repub party Never so much as made a call or stuffed an envelope or put a sign up, their oly definitive quality is that they will not threaten the establishment and that they will humor the committee people in their Hamlet. As i stated early on, in principle your right on the money, but the reality is, the utter disgust with this leadership has nobody motivated to board this ship, to jump on the bandwagon so to speak We need a new leader thats going to make people say " hey, what's this all about?" "I like this renewed spirit" and we have to get this leader in place NOW because we have a hell of alot of work to do. lets get some names flowing of some potentiel leaders and organize a commitee vote to close the door on the current and open the door on the new........ it can be done and you will see people return in droves.

[Future of GOP]

The GOP has to take a long hard look at itself here. We need for young people to take the reins from the older generation and come back squeeky clean. Who has the guts to do it?

Unfortunatley, most of the remaining party faithful have a personal stake in the game and stand to lose jobs if they challenge the leaders, so an ouster is a very long shot. Short of ousting leadership, I think the committee should at least voice a stronger opinion.

The problems run deeper than Brookhaven. The entire County party is a mess. Look at the fact they are turning to a Nassau resident as the Bishop Congressional opponent. Take a look at this guy. He was not long ago an NYC resident. I do not at all accept the fact that there are no good candidates currently residing on estern Long Island.

I agree that the next generation needs to step up to the plate. But change comes from within the party structure, not from whispering in a chat room. You want to make a difference? Become a committee person, join your local club...Spend some time getting to know the inside game, and then start making some noise. Screen for seats, and don't just sit back quietly when the wrong candidates are chosen. You think you know who we should run? Then get involved and get them in there.

And to those of you who fear for your job....entice others of likemind to get involved. If you can't voice your opinion then surround yourself by those who can!

How has this topic fallen to the bottom? Does no one agree that we need to fix this Party from bottom to top?

How has this topic fallen to the bottom? Does no one agree that we need to fix this Party from bottom to top?

I definitly agree

So why isn't it an enticing topic for this forum??? Is it in fact because most committeemen are afraid to challenge leadership?

Leadership should be just that...Leaders. People chosen by the party to lead the party. Lead by serving as a voice for the Republican message of low taxes, small government and a strong economy. Lead by traveling throughout the town, talking to Republicans and searching for the next great generation of candidates. Leading by encouraging the party to band together, develop a strategy and focus on winning back key seats to slowly regain governmental control of the Town. Leading by serving as a voice to the County and unltimatley State parties to get back in alignment with our principles. Leading the effort to recuruit, rebuild and regain elected seats on all levels!

If we really want to change the momentum, we need a major shakeup. The tidal wave of defeats in November should have been just the thing we needed. But 3 months later it sounds like business as usual.

So why isn't it an enticing topic for this forum??? Is it in fact because most committeemen are afraid to challenge leadership?

Leadership should be just that...Leaders. People chosen by the party to lead the party. Lead by serving as a voice for the Republican message of low taxes, small government and a strong economy. Lead by traveling throughout the town, talking to Republicans and searching for the next great generation of candidates. Leading by encouraging the party to band together, develop a strategy and focus on winning back key seats to slowly regain governmental control of the Town. Leading by serving as a voice to the County and unltimatley State parties to get back in alignment with our principles. Leading the effort to recuruit, rebuild and regain elected seats on all levels!

If we really want to change the momentum, we need a major shakeup. The tidal wave of defeats in November should have been just the thing we needed. But 3 months later it sounds like business as usual.

I completly agree with you it seems like stubborn Gene G still will not step down and is trying to solidify his reign on the party. I'm not sure what is up with the commitee people why they are standing for this, is it a fear of retaliation? is it people have packed it in in frustration? or is it that they just dont know how to go about it? Gene is a selfish self centered man, he should allow this party to recover and rebuild, he is responsible for the total destruction we expierienced in November.... Commiteemen and women should set a date to meet and start planning Genes ouster it begins there and needs to start soon!!

How many committeeman are out there that would agree and would participate????

[another guest]

None. We are all sick and tired that every time you turn around someone else is talking about changing the leader. What have we accomplished by changing leaders. We've changed at least 3 times in the past couple of years and we are still losing ground. All of the different factions in Brookhaven town have got to stop fighting with each other, thinking their "guy" is the guy that's gonna win it all back. You may as well realize that "your guy" isn't "my guy" and therefore I'm not gonna work for him!!!! Isn't that pretty much the scenario we've had for years now? That childish mentality has taken over this party. If the people in the party would just start working together and stop paying so much mind to who the leader is, we might actually be able to accomplish something...........Something actually worth fighting over.

[Future of GOP]

None. We are all sick and tired that every time you turn around someone else is talking about changing the leader. What have we accomplished by changing leaders. We've changed at least 3 times in the past couple of years and we are still losing ground. All of the different factions in Brookhaven town have got to stop fighting with each other, thinking their "guy" is the guy that's gonna win it all back. You may as well realize that "your guy" isn't "my guy" and therefore I'm not gonna work for him!!!! Isn't that pretty much the scenario we've had for years now? That childish mentality has taken over this party. If the people in the party would just start working together and stop paying so much mind to who the leader is, we might actually be able to accomplish something...........Something actually worth fighting over.

Oustering a leader is not the answer. But neither is blindly suporting weak candidates or a broken system. What the Committee needs to do is have a stronger voice within the party. While committeemen should be good feet on the street, helping to spread the word and to generate support during campaigns, they should also be a voice of direction in these winter months. As long as the Committee is in a position of listening to leadership preach to them about where we are going, what we are doing and who we are supporting we will continue to watch this party fail.

I agree with the writer that we need to start working togetehr and stop infighting. But I differ as to what we are working for and how we rally. This party needs a rebuilding in how it functions, rather than who has the title of leader.

The committee should voice serious concerns with where this party is headed. They should should suggest new candidates, suggest ways to get back in alignment with the true Republican platform, and set our sights on winning key races in Novmber. We should also work to strengthen our voice to the County and State Parties s0 that we can facilitate the same changes at those levels.

Let's work together to support our party...but let us not forget that it is OUR party and take some control over how it is lead!

[The Delta]

I don't know if any of you are real Republicans or committepersons because if you were, you would know that last year, the committepersons chose every candidate for the town elections (except one spot that we don't need to talk about right now). So how much more direct impact do you want the committepeople to have? Yes, they could participate more in the general direction of the party and that is why there are multiple groups (PR, communication, etc.) being formed to help manage the different duties within the party. They are looking for people to help and you are posting/complaining here that they aren't listening to the people. They have asked for any Republican who wants to move the party forward to come and add their voice. So they are working on rebuilding on how the town committee functions. So why don't you go down and work with others to accomplish this?
I agree that we had our heads up our backsides for a while b/c things were so easy for us for so long. We were not proactive enough to solidify our standing in the town, and our reactions to a challenge were pathetic. But I think much of that comes from the fact that everyone was going their own way and there was not one clear, focused message that all GOP candidates were talking about.
If someone wants to be the leader, then work from within and show that you have what it takes. If you are willing to watch and have the party fall further (if that is what is going to happen) and then want to step in, then I don't want you. You are either a team player or you are not. You may not like the head coach, but you don't throw the game.
My advice: Go to your local GOP club meeting (you can find the schedule on the Republican Party of Brookhaven website) and see if there is anything you can do there to broaden the appeal of the GOP. Or why doesn't every Republican who has posted on this board call the Town GOP and see what group they can work on to make things better. If you don't make the effort, you have no one to blame but yourselves.

[prophet]

I don't know if any of you are real Republicans or committepersons because if you were, you would know that last year, the committepersons chose every candidate for the town elections (except one spot that we don't need to talk about right now). So how much more direct impact do you want the committepeople to have? Yes, they could participate more in the general direction of the party and that is why there are multiple groups (PR, communication, etc.) being formed to help manage the different duties within the party. They are looking for people to help and you are posting/complaining here that they aren't listening to the people. They have asked for any Republican who wants to move the party forward to come and add their voice. So they are working on rebuilding on how the town committee functions. So why don't you go down and work with others to accomplish this?
I agree that we had our heads up our backsides for a while b/c things were so easy for us for so long. We were not proactive enough to solidify our standing in the town, and our reactions to a challenge were pathetic. But I think much of that comes from the fact that everyone was going their own way and there was not one clear, focused message that all GOP candidates were talking about.
If someone wants to be the leader, then work from within and show that you have what it takes. If you are willing to watch and have the party fall further (if that is what is going to happen) and then want to step in, then I don't want you. You are either a team player or you are not. You may not like the head coach, but you don't throw the game.
My advice: Go to your local GOP club meeting (you can find the schedule on the Republican Party of Brookhaven website) and see if there is anything you can do there to broaden the appeal of the GOP. Or why doesn't every Republican who has posted on this board call the Town GOP and see what group they can work on to make things better. If you don't make the effort, you have no one to blame but yourselves.

Ok what night does the "Oust Gene and Charlie" commitee meet? my son and I would like to join that one it sickens me that they have the balls to stay in after their performance NOW they are talking about rebuilding the commitee structure huh? well that's the same as ordering vinyl siding for your burned down house why join a commitee that the leadership (who make all final desicions) have zero respect for? this is a smoke and mirrors show being done here just like the screenings you dont actually believe the Commitee people chose the candidates do you? please tell me your not that naive......it's the yes men in the "executive commitee" (all appointed by Gene by the way not voted in by the commitee people) so they just yes yes all genes desicions that would be the same as a president being elected and appointing the entire congress........like i said put me on the "Oust Gene and Charlie" committee I'll be a workhorse

How many committeeman are out there that would agree and would participate????

i know of 6 or 7 right now off the top of my head

[Thought]

Maybe if you were a workhorse for the GOP candidates that were on the ballot, we wouldn't be in this mess. Let me guess, you didn't like the selection of the candidates? So what? There were Republicans who didn't like it when W was the candidate in 2000 but they got out there for him because the alternative was worse. And that is what we have now in Suffolk. You either are a Republican or you aren't!! Not every candidate is going to meet every one of your criteria. In fact, some will absolutely piss you off. But if you want to have the alternative, then you would sit on the sideline, do nothing but complain, maybe form an offshoot of the party to really divide and confuse the party members, and get your rear end handed to you in an election. Oh, wait, that is exactly what happened.
So if you want to effect a change, become part of the organization and work from within. If you are worth a lick of spit, maybe we will make you chairman.

[prophet]

Maybe if you were a workhorse for the GOP candidates that were on the ballot, we wouldn't be in this mess. Let me guess, you didn't like the selection of the candidates? So what? There were Republicans who didn't like it when W was the candidate in 2000 but they got out there for him because the alternative was worse. And that is what we have now in Suffolk. You either are a Republican or you aren't!! Not every candidate is going to meet every one of your criteria. In fact, some will absolutely piss you off. But if you want to have the alternative, then you would sit on the sideline, do nothing but complain, maybe form an offshoot of the party to really divide and confuse the party members, and get your rear end handed to you in an election. Oh, wait, that is exactly what happened.
So if you want to effect a change, become part of the organization and work from within. If you are worth a lick of spit, maybe we will make you chairman.
hmm funny you say "worth a lick of spit" cuz i worked my ass off relentlessy for candidates i didnt feel good about, for a leadership i felt was appalling, and i had to deal with that dirtbag chairman of ours whose half senile... you say work from within? dont you get it ? they dont really let you in they have these BS commitees forming that have no power or no jurisdiction and now i get forwarded an update that the chairman is changing the bylaws of the Brookhaven repub party but he has insulated himself even further if you read between the lines the executive board calls all the shots with the chairman and you dont get near that board unless you've kissed the hand.... and then lastly in the bylaw revision it gets to the commitee people and it basically says they carry petitions and serve now like i said i busted my ass on this past election and i've worked many before it in every element but i'm fed up i already get knots in my stomach watching foley grandstanding on tv knowing that he coulda been crushed had we been united and motivated but i couldnt get anyone "into it" because they already knew what it was like to be crapped on by Gene G E rard and his pathetic lackies it was me who still had to learn that shit runs downhill....... so i'm gonna watch from the sidelines for the "FINAL" Revolution the one that ousts this creep loser chairman and his cronies then whoever is chosen i will give them a 100% effort and a 100%chance and that's where it's at I still possess a committee vote I'd love to cast it to take him out

[good post profet]

Maybe if you were a workhorse for the GOP candidates that were on the ballot, we wouldn't be in this mess. Let me guess, you didn't like the selection of the candidates? So what? There were Republicans who didn't like it when W was the candidate in 2000 but they got out there for him because the alternative was worse. And that is what we have now in Suffolk. You either are a Republican or you aren't!! Not every candidate is going to meet every one of your criteria. In fact, some will absolutely piss you off. But if you want to have the alternative, then you would sit on the sideline, do nothing but complain, maybe form an offshoot of the party to really divide and confuse the party members, and get your rear end handed to you in an election. Oh, wait, that is exactly what happened.
So if you want to effect a change, become part of the organization and work from within. If you are worth a lick of spit, maybe we will make you chairman.
hmm funny you say "worth a lick of spit" cuz i worked my ass off relentlessy for candidates i didnt feel good about, for a leadership i felt was appalling, and i had to deal with that dirtbag chairman of ours whose half senile... you say work from within? dont you get it ? they dont really let you in they have these BS commitees forming that have no power or no jurisdiction and now i get forwarded an update that the chairman is changing the bylaws of the Brookhaven repub party but he has insulated himself even further if you read between the lines the executive board calls all the shots with the chairman and you dont get near that board unless you've kissed the hand.... and then lastly in the bylaw revision it gets to the commitee people and it basically says they carry petitions and serve now like i said i busted my ass on this past election and i've worked many before it in every element but i'm fed up i already get knots in my stomach watching foley grandstanding on tv knowing that he coulda been crushed had we been united and motivated but i couldnt get anyone "into it" because they already knew what it was like to be crapped on by Gene G E rard and his pathetic lackies it was me who still had to learn that shit runs downhill....... so i'm gonna watch from the sidelines for the "FINAL" Revolution the one that ousts this creep loser chairman and his cronies then whoever is chosen i will give them a 100% effort and a 100%chance and that's where it's at I still possess a committee vote I'd love to cast it to take him out

I could have written the same for Huntington,,, no more until the leadership changes.

[thought]

Prophet, then you were one of the only ones that didn't just sit on their backsides and watch the party fall. I know committepersons who purposely didn't do anything to help the party this past election b/c they were upset with the candidate selection or the chairman. So if what you say is true, then (as the Aussies say) "good on ya".
But you say that you are still a committeeperson. So in the next election, what are you going to do? Will you work for the candidates who are selected, especially since most of them will be for Assembly & Senate (selections that will not be made without imput from the County and State levels)?

[prophet]

Prophet, then you were one of the only ones that didn't just sit on their backsides and watch the party fall. I know committepersons who purposely didn't do anything to help the party this past election b/c they were upset with the candidate selection or the chairman. So if what you say is true, then (as the Aussies say) "good on ya".
But you say that you are still a committeeperson. So in the next election, what are you going to do? Will you work for the candidates who are selected, especially since most of them will be for Assembly & Senate (selections that will not be made without imput from the County and State levels)?

yeah i know what ya mean, i called a bunch of em to help and they were just not into it.... i couldn't really give em lip cuz i felt the same but i had one or two candidates that i really had a strong feeling for...... it's the "commiteemen & women disease" as i call it a direct result of the abuse sent downstream from the chairman

[thought]

Prophet, you seem to have a reasoned thought in your head, so this is an interesting discussion. Don't you think that in the past there have been committeepersons who felt similar to the way you feel now? Maybe not to the same extent, but had a similar vibe from previous chairmen? I guess what I am getting at is when everything was wine and roses, those things didn't matter. People voted GOP b/c that is all they knew. Now people are taking a more "thoughtful" look at elections and when committepersons don't do what they are supposed to do, regardless of who is in charge or the candidate, there is only room for failure. They don't walk the neighborhood, they don't put campaign literature in the neighborhood. I had to cover multiple EDs b/c people couldn't be bothered. Then had the nerve to complain that we lost. That is the thing that I don't get.
Should be interesting at the full committee meeting in 2 weeks, don't you think?

[Prophet]

Prophet, you seem to have a reasoned thought in your head, so this is an interesting discussion. Don't you think that in the past there have been committeepersons who felt similar to the way you feel now? Maybe not to the same extent, but had a similar vibe from previous chairmen? I guess what I am getting at is when everything was wine and roses, those things didn't matter. People voted GOP b/c that is all they knew. Now people are taking a more "thoughtful" look at elections and when committepersons don't do what they are supposed to do, regardless of who is in charge or the candidate, there is only room for failure. They don't walk the neighborhood, they don't put campaign literature in the neighborhood. I had to cover multiple EDs b/c people couldn't be bothered. Then had the nerve to complain that we lost. That is the thing that I don't get.
Should be interesting at the full committee meeting in 2 weeks, don't you think?

Thought, we seem to have experienced some similiar situations, I also walked numerous ED's beside my own, went to six or seven mailings only to find 4 people there instead of the usual 12 to 15. the kicker is that when i was shot after 4 delirious hours of stuffing envelopes and had to get home to my kid I got an attitude from the chairman, he mumbles, " these F#$%* people are useless these days" I'm not sure what Ward your a commitee person in but in 5 they have this ED Ro savitch guy who has this brainstorm to name all new Hamlet captains, his idea was to bring in totally new people for these posts, so he names every person he pounds cocktails with down to his favorite bartender to lead the commitee people in ward 5. One or two of these choices were worthy recipients the others were total hacks, ghosts, they still have yet to get off their collective asses and show their faces....there i was walking multiple ED's to get the word out because this mutant picked a bunch of unproven deadbeats as hamlet captains and filled commitee spots with people who were convinced to do it NOT driven to do it...... and this guy still is ward captain, so the shit river the Chairman is flowing down just gets even more peutric the more you zoom in the lens. Oh and did i mention that for all this hard work and there's a hell of alot more then mentioned above I had the privlege to recieve a letter from Gene G E rard and Char lie Lef t Kowi tz stating that i did not fulfill my duties as a committee person and should arrange a meeting to discuss this......my thought, yeah i'll arrange a meeting alright but it will be to oust his sorry ass.............. I guess you can tell i get pissed reflecting on this stuff hehe anyway thats how it is and we are sooo lethargic as a commitee we are watching it all happen all over again, we obviously haven't eaten enough @$#% from these guys because we are still going back to Their table.....and that my friend is how i see it

[Republica]

Prophet you have a real feel for whats going on in our messed up party, why dont you lead the commitee men and women forward against this regime? you have my vote

Prophet you have a real feel for whats going on in our messed up party, why dont you lead the commitee men and women forward against this regime? you have my vote

As a fellow commitee woman i second that motion

[dr withers will]

save brrokhaven-trust me and ye all shall die

[jet]

Dittos from Huntington...Different borders, same @#%&. Lets start a shadow county committee. Think about it... it can only help at this point. Our great "leaders" led us off the plank . It's time to take back the republican party.

[thought]

Well, the meeting was last night, and NOTHING happened. A small pissing match about the renaming of the committee, but that is it. A question about the renaming, no one made a motion to debate it, and then it was over. For all the people who were posting about a change there was a eerie quiet in the room. So, the opportunity to voice concern/outrage/hatred for what is going on in the GOP went by the wayside. So now we will have to read about splinter groups, committeemen not wanting to support the efforts of the chairman, et al, for at least another year.

[William Wallace]

Well, the meeting was last night, and NOTHING happened. A small pissing match about the renaming of the committee, but that is it. A question about the renaming, no one made a motion to debate it, and then it was over. For all the people who were posting about a change there was a eerie quiet in the room. So, the opportunity to voice concern/outrage/hatred for what is going on in the GOP went by the wayside. So now we will have to read about splinter groups, committeemen not wanting to support the efforts of the chairman, et al, for at least another year.
There's things going on behind the scenes though, and last night was not the time and place to take on the chair and vice chair. We are trying to get a feel for just how many commitee people we have in our beliefs (if you noticed though, turn out was verrrrry light last night) it's not an easy task we are trying to do here, we have a stubborn old bastard who has re entrenched himself as leader and we have to have a pretty formidable amount of votes to get him out, and then a game plan in what to once he is out.....but it IS coming together

[Bubba Rep]

Well, the meeting was last night, and NOTHING happened. A small pissing match about the renaming of the committee, but that is it. A question about the renaming, no one made a motion to debate it, and then it was over. For all the people who were posting about a change there was a eerie quiet in the room. So, the opportunity to voice concern/outrage/hatred for what is going on in the GOP went by the wayside. So now we will have to read about splinter groups, committeemen not wanting to support the efforts of the chairman, et al, for at least another year.
There's things going on behind the scenes though, and last night was not the time and place to take on the chair and vice chair. We are trying to get a feel for just how many commitee people we have in our beliefs (if you noticed though, turn out was verrrrry light last night) it's not an easy task we are trying to do here, we have a stubborn old bastard who has re entrenched himself as leader and we have to have a pretty formidable amount of votes to get him out, and then a game plan in what to once he is out.....but it IS coming together

uhhhh lemme hear some potentiel names as good replacement chairs for the TOB Rep party

[another guest]

Like I said several pages back...why put up names now? Your guy will not be my guy so I won't work for him, or you won't work for my guy.........and so it goes. There isn't anyone out there right now that is a proven winner. Until we see someone rise up thru the ashes in the next election, forget it. The committee people have been invited to attend these meetings for change. They've been invited to join these new work teams, public relations, campaigns, finance, and something seems to be happening. Each week it appears more people are getting involved. So maybe something is working. Even the elected officials are getting involved. Its interesting.

Like I said several pages back...why put up names now? Your guy will not be my guy so I won't work for him, or you won't work for my guy.........and so it goes. There isn't anyone out there right now that is a proven winner. Until we see someone rise up thru the ashes in the next election, forget it. The committee people have been invited to attend these meetings for change. They've been invited to join these new work teams, public relations, campaigns, finance, and something seems to be happening. Each week it appears more people are getting involved. So maybe something is working. Even the elected officials are getting involved. Its interesting.

hmmmm i dunno where either of you think your going with your analogys, the party is at least 3-4 years away from even being competitive again broke financially and candidate depleted and sooo much time is gonna be needed to escape the corruption stigma

Like I said several pages back...why put up names now? Your guy will not be my guy so I won't work for him, or you won't work for my guy.........and so it goes. There isn't anyone out there right now that is a proven winner. Until we see someone rise up thru the ashes in the next election, forget it. The committee people have been invited to attend these meetings for change. They've been invited to join these new work teams, public relations, campaigns, finance, and something seems to be happening. Each week it appears more people are getting involved. So maybe something is working. Even the elected officials are getting involved. Its interesting.

hmmmm i dunno where either of you think your going with your analogys, the party is at least 3-4 years away from even being competitive again broke financially and candidate depleted and sooo much time is gonna be needed to escape the corruption stigma

WOW GENE G ERARD RESIGNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lock&load]

Ed is a RAT !!!! He turns in his own !!! Does anyone have cheese to feed the rat. He f---ed up Conklins campaign !
You are right about Ed. He just came to Conklins aid when he heard there was food being served. Who made the choice in 5? More rocket science. As fare as Gene and Charlie or the Joker and the Ridler send them back to the comic books where they belong. They lost every race! I don't count Mazzei and Mc Carrick cause they did not support either one. With all that WISDOM, how can they stay. They should have quit election night for the good of the party. All our $ went to Hennesy. He should have stayed at 6. Did anyone ok the $100,000+ loan? Not us! Let them choke on it. If anyone gives them a Dime they are crazy!!!!!!!

[Prophet]

Ed is a RAT !!!! He turns in his own !!! Does anyone have cheese to feed the rat. He f---ed up Conklins campaign !
You are right about Ed. He just came to Conklins aid when he heard there was food being served. Who made the choice in 5? More rocket science. As fare as Gene and Charlie or the Joker and the Ridler send them back to the comic books where they belong. They lost every race! I don't count Mazzei and Mc Carrick cause they did not support either one. With all that WISDOM, how can they stay. They should have quit election night for the good of the party. All our $ went to Hennesy. He should have stayed at 6. Did anyone ok the $100,000+ loan? Not us! Let them choke on it. If anyone gives them a Dime they are crazy!!!!!!!

Hey fellow Republicans Heed my warning and this is the truth DONT GIVE A DIME TO ANY FUNDRAISERS... IT'S NOT GOING TO OUR PARTYS FUTURE IT IS STILL GOING TO CLEAN UP THE UNDISCIPLINED SPENDING GENE AND CHARLIE DID (ESPECIALLY ON HENNESEEYS CAMPAIGN) LIKE THE ABOVE WRITER WROTE WHO THE HELL TOLD THEM TO MORTGAGE OUR FUTURE....THESE CLOWNS MUST GO AND TAKE THEIR DEBT WITH THEM SAVE YOUR MONEY FOR WHEN IT COUNTS.... IT'S OUR FUTURE

[lock&load]

You're all crying but no one has any ideas on what to do but get rid of Charlie and Gene. Putting in younger people who have no experience or political saavy will not help. It will make it worse. You need to get a big gun political analyst in to tell you what you need to do. Too bad the party's bankrupt because you need professional help.
Heres an idea. Gene and Charlie QUIT NOW!!!

[lock&load]

We need help out here. Lets start over, ask the committeemen for input and run QUALIFIED candidates and take this town back. Now before its too late! I can't understand why we continue to put up the same old people and same old names. Look for fresh blood.
Why ask the Committeemen and women? We all were there to hear the candidates, we voted, took time away from our families, and the leadership still picked their BUDDYS. So, I guess our input did not matter. Let them choke on the loan. They made the call on it themselves. So don't send a dime to them. They are not the Party we are!!! Don't foget it. They said we have a voice. Bull_ _ _ _! By not giving them $ we will have the last word. The GOP spoke election night. We didn't want Hennesy. Only GOP can vote GOP out. See the message PEOPLE!!! Why don't the leadership see. Give it up GRANDPA!!!!

[inssssider]

We need help out here. Lets start over, ask the committeemen for input and run QUALIFIED candidates and take this town back. Now before its too late! I can't understand why we continue to put up the same old people and same old names. Look for fresh blood.
Why ask the Committeemen and women? We all were there to hear the candidates, we voted, took time away from our families, and the leadership still picked their BUDDYS. So, I guess our input did not matter. Let them choke on the loan. They made the call on it themselves. So don't send a dime to them. They are not the Party we are!!! Don't foget it. They said we have a voice. Bull_ _ _ _! By not giving them $ we will have the last word. The GOP spoke election night. We didn't want Hennesy. Only GOP can vote GOP out. See the message PEOPLE!!! Why don't the leadership see. Give it up GRANDPA!!!!

Hey fellow Republicans Heed my warning and this is the truth DONT GIVE A DIME TO ANY FUNDRAISERS... IT'S NOT GOING TO OUR PARTYS FUTURE IT IS STILL GOING TO CLEAN UP THE UNDISCIPLINED SPENDING GENE AND CHARLIE DID (ESPECIALLY ON HENNESEEYS CAMPAIGN) LIKE THE ABOVE WRITER WROTE WHO THE HELL TOLD THEM TO MORTGAGE OUR FUTURE....THESE CLOWNS MUST GO AND TAKE THEIR DEBT WITH THEM, SAVE YOUR MONEY FOR WHEN IT COUNTS.... IT'S OUR FUTURE

[Prophet]

Prophet you have a real feel for whats going on in our messed up party, why dont you lead the commitee men and women forward against this regime? you have my vote

As a fellow commitee woman i second that motion

The best way right now to oust Gene and Charlie is to cut off their food supply their "Cash Flow" Now they are calling a full commitee person meeting Saturday April 8th, 2006 35 bucks a head DO NOT GO AND DONT GIVE THEM A DIME all of this money is to pay back Genes Loan for his wreckless spending during the last election NONE of it is for our partys future take away their cash flow and they will be forced to bail and since when did we have to PAY to go to a meeting? this just keeps getting worse agree or disagree? lemme here ya commitee people!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lock&load]

Who Cares! They should just quit already. Time is short. I hear they are trying to mend fences. Pressure is on, keep it coming Committee people they are coming apart. Don't give them a dime!!! Spend some time with your Families. Enjoy the weather. They will be gone by June. Time to say goodbye! Bye Gene Bye Charlie!!! Take your loans with you! You BUMS!!!!
Well, the meeting was last night, and NOTHING happened. A small pissing match about the renaming of the committee, but that is it. A question about the renaming, no one made a motion to debate it, and then it was over. For all the people who were posting about a change there was a eerie quiet in the room. So, the opportunity to voice concern/outrage/hatred for what is going on in the GOP went by the wayside. So now we will have to read about splinter groups, committeemen not wanting to support the efforts of the chairman, et al, for at least another year.
There's things going on behind the scenes though, and last night was not the time and place to take on the chair and vice chair. We are trying to get a feel for just how many commitee people we have in our beliefs (if you noticed though, turn out was verrrrry light last night) it's not an easy task we are trying to do here, we have a stubborn old bastard who has re entrenched himself as leader and we have to have a pretty formidable amount of votes to get him out, and then a game plan in what to once he is out.....but it IS coming together :twisted:

[Rep Heart]

.....to come to the aid of their Party. Why don't you whiners stop it already. Do the work of the Party and leadership will take care of itself when the time is right. 'Cause the rest of us will remember who was working along side us when that time comes, and the next leader will be from among the working stiffs, not some snooty lawyer or other rich-b#tch that never stuffed an envelope or made a phone call......but sat in meetings filmed by Zabby complaining and crying like a bunch of babies. As for now, Charlie & Gene will stay on and pay off the note the Party had to take on to help pay for the Republican campaign while JJL helped Foley. Too bad his plan to let Foley win and keep a Rep majority failed. Now we all pay the price for it. You wanna run a primary.....go ahead. It's your right as an American to do so. But when you lose the primary, its your obligation as a member of the Party to support the winner of the Primary. None of you did that. You don't deserve to call yourselves Republicans. Go join some other Party.

you miss it dont you :wink:

[ADD]

I sure do1

[Prophet]

.....to come to the aid of their Party. Why don't you whiners stop it already. Do the work of the Party and leadership will take care of itself when the time is right. 'Cause the rest of us will remember who was working along side us when that time comes, and the next leader will be from among the working stiffs, not some snooty lawyer or other rich-b#tch that never stuffed an envelope or made a phone call......but sat in meetings filmed by Zabby complaining and crying like a bunch of babies. As for now, Charlie & Gene will stay on and pay off the note the Party had to take on to help pay for the Republican campaign while JJL helped Foley. Too bad his plan to let Foley win and keep a Rep majority failed. Now we all pay the price for it. You wanna run a primary.....go ahead. It's your right as an American to do so. But when you lose the primary, its your obligation as a member of the Party to support the winner of the Primary. None of you did that. You don't deserve to call yourselves Republicans. Go join some other Party.

Hmmm shsssh where do i start Ok the reason we are so freakin disgruntled is NOT because we just feel like bitching for the hell of it, It is because many of Us have endured enough crap from the leadership of the party to just not make it worth while coming back into the fold right now, what for? another kick in the cojonnes? not me brother and sister Republicans these guys in charge are ghouls they will work your asses off wring every cent out of you to give you a bitch slappin and show zero accountability for their wreckless spending of campaign finances. I'm not saying join that "NEW Republican party" i mean look at the board of directors on that.. that's a train wreck waiting to happen BUt if you are an active Republican and Have been one for the last 3 elections you will understand what i'm saying.... enough is enough already, we are volunteers, we are supposed to get some enjoyment out of this, or get Something out of it.....You can still be a loyal Republican while waiting this out, nobodys gonna tell me i'm not a good Republican, in my eyes it's a disservice to help Gene and Charlie, Helping them rebuild is a time and effort investment you will surely lose you shirt on........and that My Bro and sis Repubs is how i see things!!!

[lock&load]

.....to come to the aid of their Party. Why don't you whiners stop it already. Do the work of the Party and leadership will take care of itself when the time is right. 'Cause the rest of us will remember who was working along side us when that time comes, and the next leader will be from among the working stiffs, not some snooty lawyer or other rich-b#tch that never stuffed an envelope or made a phone call......but sat in meetings filmed by Zabby complaining and crying like a bunch of babies. As for now, Charlie & Gene will stay on and pay off the note the Party had to take on to help pay for the Republican campaign while JJL helped Foley. Too bad his plan to let Foley win and keep a Rep majority failed. Now we all pay the price for it. You wanna run a primary.....go ahead. It's your right as an American to do so. But when you lose the primary, its your obligation as a member of the Party to support the winner of the Primary. None of you did that. You don't deserve to call yourselves Republicans. Go join some other Party.
Hey! When did you get off the boat. Where have you been? You don't know what your talking about.

[Lo Squad]

in contracts to campaign donors
BY ERIK GERMAN
erik.german@newsday.com

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April 3, 2007

The man in charge of fixing Brookhaven's cars, trucks and tractors gave $1.4 million worth of town business during four years to repair shops that donated to his son's Suffolk County legislative campaigns.

In nine repair accounts overseen by vehicle control chief Victor Losquadro, town records show that 80 percent of the money Brookhaven spent between 2003 and 2006 went to firms that contributed to Legis. Daniel Losquadro.





The companies gave his campaign nearly $40,000 during that time.

Brookhaven Supervisor Brian Foley called the findings "alarming" and said Victor Losquadro was removed from his post in January because of other concerns the town had about his financial management of the department. Town officials said they have referred the campaign finance matter to District Attorney Thomas Spota, who so far has declined comment.

"Obviously it's a very troubling finding," said Foley, a Democrat, describing Newsday's review of town invoices and campaign records obtained under Freedom of Information laws. "What the perception will be, rightly or wrongly, is that once again there's a problem in Brookhaven."

Daniel Losquadro (R-Shoreham) vigorously insisted that repair shops were never pressured to give campaign donations, nor were they promised town work for doing so. "I couldn't even tell you who's on any town repair list," he said.

Losquadro added that the decades his father spent in the auto repair business before taking a town job in 1999 explain why so many contributors come from that field. "It's the industry you've been around and your family knows, and those people believe in me and want to support me," he said. "I can't imagine anybody would even imply there's any nefarious intent there."

Victor Losquadro did not respond to repeated messages left over three days seeking comment.

The owners of several repair shops who contributed to Daniel Losquadro agreed. "I have a long-standing relationship with Danny," said William Hartion, owner of Royal Collision in Mount Sinai, which town invoices show did $54,878 worth of auto body repairs for Brookhaven between 2003 and 2006.

"If the town kicked me off their list tomorrow, I would still support that guy," Hartion said.

But some Democrats said they suspect otherwise. "It sounds to me like Victor Losquadro has been taking Brookhaven taxpayers for a ride," Suffolk Democratic Party chair Richard Schaffer said.

Some shop owners said contributing to town and county campaigns is a widely known cost of doing business with Brookhaven.

"We'd get a little work, then we'd get things in the mail that so-and-so was running for some office," said Chris Pikoulas, owner of Miller Place Auto Electric. "Me and my brother would just shake our heads."

Since 2003, his shop has given $690 to the Friends of Dan Losquadro, and Brookhaven has spent $31,898 there. As recently as a few years ago, Pikoulas said a town employee -- not Victor Losquadro -- would appear at his shop twice annually to solicit donations for various candidates. "He would actually show up here with an envelope," Pikoulas said. "He used to look over his shoulder before he walked in the door."

One Lindenhurst transmission shop, a contributor that once did almost $50,000 in yearly business with Brookhaven, suddenly stopped getting work after a non-contributor bought the shop in 2006. "It was kind of obvious that Victor Losquadro was going out of his way to keep this contract from us," said Mark Wedlock, the new owner, who unsuccessfully sued Brookhaven last year to reinstate his contact. "Anybody could put two and two together."

The nine town accounts where the largest percentage of work went to Losquadro contributors included those for repairing radiators, auto bodies, windshields, heavy equipment and lawn mowers. According to town officials, Victor Losquadro had broad discretion for contracting professional services such as insurance appraisals and for renewing long-standing contracts. He also controlled the accounts as the sole departmental signer of purchase orders.

While those orders were subject to approval by the town's purchasing department, an independent audit released last month by Albrecht, Viggiano, Zureck & Co. found that its internal checks were not being followed consistently.

For example, small purchases -- such as many of the repairs overseen by Victor Losquadro -- were made according to a manager's discretion, although they often added up to tens of thousands of dollars for a single vendor. Supervisor Foley has called it a system "ripe" for abuse.

Town Deputy Supervisor Jack Schnirman said Losquadro was pulled from his vehicle control post in January and made a secretary at Brookhaven Calabro Airport. Schnirman cited excessive waiting periods for vehicle repairs and "problems with purchasing" among reasons for Losquadro's removal.

Last year, the administration asked Losquadro to consider putting the repeated small-scale purchases out to bid or seeking requests for proposals. He declined, saying it would delay repairs, and wrote in a March 7 memo, "I do not see how RFPs would benefit or protect the town."




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[quote="Lo Squad"]in contracts to campaign donors
BY ERIK GERMAN
erik.german@newsday.com

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Printer friendly format
April 3, 2007

The man in charge of fixing Brookhaven's cars, trucks and tractors gave $1.4 million worth of town business during four years to repair shops that donated to his son's Suffolk County legislative campaigns.

In nine repair accounts overseen by vehicle control chief Victor Losquadro, town records show that 80 percent of the money Brookhaven spent between 2003 and 2006 went to firms that contributed to Legis. Daniel Losquadro.





The companies gave his campaign nearly $40,000 during that time.

Brookhaven Supervisor Brian Foley called the findings "alarming" and said Victor Losquadro was removed from his post in January because of other concerns the town had about his financial management of the department. Town officials said they have referred the campaign finance matter to District Attorney Thomas Spota, who so far has declined comment.

"Obviously it's a very troubling finding," said Foley, a Democrat, describing Newsday's review of town invoices and campaign records obtained under Freedom of Information laws. "What the perception will be, rightly or wrongly, is that once again there's a problem in Brookhaven."

Daniel Losquadro (R-Shoreham) vigorously insisted that repair shops were never pressured to give campaign donations, nor were they promised town work for doing so. "I couldn't even tell you who's on any town repair list," he said.

Losquadro added that the decades his father spent in the auto repair business before taking a town job in 1999 explain why so many contributors come from that field. "It's the industry you've been around and your family knows, and those people believe in me and want to support me," he said. "I can't imagine anybody would even imply there's any nefarious intent there."

Victor Losquadro did not respond to repeated messages left over three days seeking comment.

The owners of several repair shops who contributed to Daniel Losquadro agreed. "I have a long-standing relationship with Danny," said William Hartion, owner of Royal Collision in Mount Sinai, which town invoices show did $54,878 worth of auto body repairs for Brookhaven between 2003 and 2006.

"If the town kicked me off their list tomorrow, I would still support that guy," Hartion said.

But some Democrats said they suspect otherwise. "It sounds to me like Victor Losquadro has been taking Brookhaven taxpayers for a ride," Suffolk Democratic Party chair Richard Schaffer said.

Some shop owners said contributing to town and county campaigns is a widely known cost of doing business with Brookhaven.

"We'd get a little work, then we'd get things in the mail that so-and-so was running for some office," said Chris Pikoulas, owner of Miller Place Auto Electric. "Me and my brother would just shake our heads."

Since 2003, his shop has given $690 to the Friends of Dan Losquadro, and Brookhaven has spent $31,898 there. As recently as a few years ago, Pikoulas said a town employee -- not Victor Losquadro -- would appear at his shop twice annually to solicit donations for various candidates. "He would actually show up here with an envelope," Pikoulas said. "He used to look over his shoulder before he walked in the door."

One Lindenhurst transmission shop, a contributor that once did almost $50,000 in yearly business with Brookhaven, suddenly stopped getting work after a non-contributor bought the shop in 2006. "It was kind of obvious that Victor Losquadro was going out of his way to keep this contract from us," said Mark Wedlock, the new owner, who unsuccessfully sued Brookhaven last year to reinstate his contact. "Anybody could put two and two together."

The nine town accounts where the largest percentage of work went to Losquadro contributors included those for repairing radiators, auto bodies, windshields, heavy equipment and lawn mowers. According to town officials, Victor Losquadro had broad discretion for contracting professional services such as insurance appraisals and for renewing long-standing contracts. He also controlled the accounts as the sole departmental signer of purchase orders.

While those orders were subject to approval by the town's purchasing department, an independent audit released last month by Albrecht, Viggiano, Zureck & Co. found that its internal checks were not being followed consistently.

For example, small purchases -- such as many of the repairs overseen by Victor Losquadro -- were made according to a manager's discretion, although they often added up to tens of thousands of dollars for a single vendor. Supervisor Foley has called it a system "ripe" for abuse.

Town Deputy Supervisor Jack Schnirman said Losquadro was pulled from his vehicle control post in January and made a secretary at Brookhaven Calabro Airport. Schnirman cited excessive waiting periods for vehicle repairs and "problems with purchasing" among reasons for Losquadro's removal.

Last year, the administration asked Losquadro to consider putting the repeated small-scale purchases out to bid or seeking requests for proposals. He declined, saying it would delay repairs, and wrote in a March 7 memo, "I do not see how RFPs would benefit or protect the town."

:lol: Now this is funny--- "It sounds to me like Victor Losquadro has been taking Brookhaven taxpayers for a ride," Suffolk Democratic Party chair Richard Schaffer said.

If anyone knows how to take the public taxpayers for a ride the Democrats surely do.

Has anyone bothered to check the campaign donations list of prominent county legislators who are Democrat ?

What am I saying, of course not this is Long Island home to Newsday and corrupt bias media.

Entrenched Democrats have absolutely nothing to fear. So go on with your daily charade.

:o Oh I'm not Republican. I just hate people in power when they get cocky and arrogant after an extended stay. Absolute power will do that to you.

[Eddie Kendrix]

Mazzi wants ER out.

ER wants a DEM instead of TIM.

Bad move ER but typical of a person whose got nothing.

[Withers Away]

Harry can solve all problems!

[X Foley]

Harry, help me!

Get TT for the job