Looking to leave the Dems

[On the fence]

Hello all. I am currently a democratic committeeman in Nassau County and have become disenfranchised with the Party and the Legislature. I am almost ready to switch my registration and join the GOP. I have been in touch with a Member of the State Senate whom I have known for a long time and he encourages me to follow my heart. I wonder what would be waiting for me if I switched. Would I be seen as someone not to be trusted? Would I be able to become a committeeman? This is a very difficult and life altering decision and I do not what to enter into it lightly. Any help would be nice!

[Yodel]

Not sure about Nassau, but in Suffolk the GOP tends to be distrustful of transplants.

If you're pro-choice and believe that government has the responsibility to help the working classes, then stay put.

Or try a minor party...
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[Switcharoo]

The Republicans are using you. Then they will spit you out like pigs feet.

[Yodel]

Anyway, I don't know if you passed the deadline or what. If you don't change your registration soon, it takes almost a year for the party change to take effect.

Maybe the deadline already passed.

If you're not going to run for office or at least a top-level post in the party, why's it matter anyway which party you belong to?

Yeah, you get a few signatures and your kid gets some summer job with the municipality, but big deal. Wendy's is hiring, too.
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[On the Fence is an Impost]

Well, this yeaf Jaffe is a turncoat from Dem to Rep and she is running for the district court on the Rep line in Nassau. She seems to be getting alot of support since signs and commercials are everywhere.


As for others who switch, regardless of which party affiliation they change to, you have to have reservations. Everyone has there own agenda. Look at Petrone in Suffolk. Why would you trust the guy. Or Jeffords in the US Senate. He switched right after winning the re-election as a republican.

Look at Bloomberg, the guy is a true liberal. I could not stand the fact that he ran on the republican line.

As for bad mouthing turncoats. Hoey brought it on himself. He bad-mouths every GOP candidate, regardless if they are good or not. Only years earlier, he was shinning the shoes of the chairman. That's a guy you can trust?

the other two I never heard a word about.

[Pollster]

This is the Real Pollster. AKA - Real Republican, AKA - Outster, AKA - you name it.

Member of the Republican political party to which I am official registered in the eyes of the law.

As for turncoat, you must have me confused with someone else. Perhaps that fiscally conservative organization that ran up $1B in local debt, made Nassau Co what it is today - the most overtaxed and poorly run municipality in the nation. Perhaps that organization that values loyalty so much that they lined up every one of their legislators to take turns running the budget of man they created in the image of themselves right through the shredder while the cameras rolled and the TV lights shone - loyalty? Isn't it a two way street? Perhaps that great organization dedicated to Democracy that routinely kicks those who dare oppose them off the ballot for nitpicking technicalities, or appoints people to public offices in lieu of those pesky Democratic avenues of competition called special elections. And how about that Great Conservative/Republican Governor - abortion rights, gay rights, teacher union endorsements, labor union bosses, gun-control, $10 billion debt, high taxes, patronage abuses, contracts to relatives etc, etc. If Pataki is a Republican then so is Ted Kennedy.

I didn't leave the Republican Party - it left me.

Turncoat? POLLSTER a turncoat? I don't think so.
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[Sorry for the confusion]

Was the day they turned there back on you Pat, they day you were fired?

Because before that, you were the bigggest brown-nose on Post Ave. Prior to your TERMINATION, you loved Big Joe, Pataki and every other candidate. Why didn't you say anything back then. Nobody heard a word of opposition. You seemed to support them every time I saw you.

So, if being fired can be considered turning you back, I could understand it.

But, since you were FIRED, people take you statements as suspect. Suddenly you anti-GOP. But that started the day AFTER you were Fired. Not a word beforehand. Curious about just how honest you are to the people, I must say.

[Pollster]

Like I've said before, been fired before might be fired again, who knows, who cares. The trick is landing on your feet. Haven't I?

Now, when you are fired Junior please inform us so we can ridicule you.

As to the circumstances, why don't you ask Boss Joe. If he's telling the truth you'll be apoligizing to me for the error of your ways.

If you only knew what you were talking about, you might be dangerous.
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[POLLSTER JR]

It has been well documented that you

1. At one time were the biggest kiss ass to Joe Mondello
2. Supported every Republican candidate, including Pataki
3. Biggest suck-up to elected officials(actual witness)
4. Rude to regular Committeemen/women(actual witness)
4. Were FIRED by your dreamman, Joe Mondello
5. Suddenly turned against anyone and everyone associated with your FORMER employer

That all adds up to, disgruntled former employye seeking revenge. If I am wrong please tell. Did you resign your position? What was your official title up at Post Ave, VP of lapdogs.

If you resigned from the position tewll us the circumstances. But from what I heard, you were canned. And I did witness your antics and ill treatment to several individuals.

Hence, Republicans take you with a grain of salt. Being fired is very imporatnt because of teh circumstances surrounding it. Employers like to know why someone gets canned, so I care. I care, because you say you know what is best. before I hire you, why not tell us your side of the story?

Are you afraid to tell us all the truth? I have heard one side of the story, why not fill us in with yours.

Until then disgruntled EXEMPLOYEE is your label. Deal with it!!

[Friend of Pollster]

Hey Junior, ever think it happened precisely because he told the truth - said exactly what was on his mind to the a person who was in dire need of being told exactly that?

And you are wrong about employers caring about the circumstances of someone being let go. They really don't care about that. But they are not particularly interested in hiring former municipal employees or those from the machine. Anyone with this background is well advised to hide this on their resume somehow - employers view these people extremely skeptically.

[POLLSTER JR]

Well, we employers here in the private sector like to have an idea about people we might hire. It is rather important to us.(Criminals, racists, sexists, we don't like to hire them)

Maybe in your position it isn't, but to others it is.

Hoey, he wants to be one of the bosses. I want to know why he was fired. He is free to tell his story, but never does. that makes him suspect and he gets placed in the no second interview box.

The floor is open to change my mind, but I would like him to stand up since he tells us everything else on his mind.

[Pollster]

Sorry, calander is booked for interviews. Can't squeeze you in until after the Holidays.

Wednesday - K Street, DC.
Monday - Richmond, VA.
Friday - West 52nd, NY.

But, make an offer I'll likely refuse.
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[woh]

Poor pat, when given the chance to explain his side of the story, the only thing he does is run away and act rude.

No wonder he was dislike by so many while employed at headquarters. But I do wish he would tell us his side. All he does is dodge the question, like a plliticain. No straight answers.

Pat fill us in, until then, I just can't trust you. And as a comitteeman that you want to help take out the current party leaders, doesn't my opinion matter to you? You seem no diffferent from the rest!

[NY Repub]

If you believe abortion, atheism, homosexuality, multiculturalism, socialism, high taxes, Islam and the ACLU are good things...stay with the Democrats.

[amazed]

I am amazed that you can make a post so removed from reality. You should check out some basic facts before you denounce "Poor Pat" for not telling "his side of the story."
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[bellkev]

Did you guys know that S got canned by Suozzi. Look for him to start bashing Suozzi admin. I bet that all of you that hate Suozzi will agree with him. But, of course if Hoey bashes Mondello for firing him its because he is a bitter butt kisser.
, you should have been an OTB holdover, we are doing fine over here. Still getting paid, and still answering to Joe Mondello.

[To on the Fence]

If you believe that woman does not have a right to make their own health care decisions, join the GOP.

If you believe that everyone should be able to buy a gun at a gunshow, join the GOP.

If you believe that arsenic in groundwater is a seasoning, join the GOP.

If you believe that only natural born Americans should remain in this country, join the GOP.

If you believe that tax cuts to the rich actually help the poor, then join the GOP;

If you believe that after school programs, school lunch programs, and day care have no value, join the GOP.

If you believe Nassau County was well run for the past 12 years, join the GOP,

If you believe the Town of Hempstead needs 4 garbagemen assigned to every truck, and 12 deputy parks commissioners, join the GOP.

If have a brain in your head, stay a dem.

[Rebuttal]

If you believe that exploitative men should be able to blackmail vulnerable women ("If you don't do it, I'm out of here- besides, it's no big deal, it's legal") into aborting children they would rather bear, then stay a Dem

If you believe that women should have no choice in where their children get educated, stay a Dem

If you believe that only criminals should have guns, stay a Dem

If you believe that you should only talk about environmental issues, and only then when they can work to your political advantage, stay a Dem

If you want to ignore immigration laws when you might be able to corral some illegal votes, but don't have the guts to actually address the issue because you might alienate your labor allies, then stay a Dem

If you believe that a nation can tax itself into prosperity, and that bureaucrats in Washington and Albany can spend you and your neighbors' money better than you can, then stay a Dem

If you believe that federal programs are the answer to every problem, but refuse to look at the actual results of those programs, then stay a Dem

If you don't care what happens to Social Security or retirees and only look at the issue as a political weapon, then stay a Dem

If you want to feel good about yourself because you "mean well," but don't really care if you actually solve any problems or care what harm is caused by the policies you champion, then stay a Dem

[To Rebuttal]

I can only assume that because you did not touch any of the local issues, then you conced that Nassau was run into the ground, by mismanagement and that Hempstead should have twelve deputy parks commissioners. What Town Job do you hold?

[Rebuttal]

You just proved the old adage about what happens when you assume.

I am not a Nassau County resident, so I can't give an answer to those charges. This leads me to an addition.

If you don't care about the facts of a matter and are satisified to just make it up as you go along, as long as it is politically advantageous, stay a Dem

[To Rebuttal]

If you know absolutely nothing about grammar, join the GOP.

[riding hi]

More for your rebuttal

If you're a white guy who thinks Black people can't make it on their own-stay a Dem.

If you think we should let our kids do WHATEVER they want because "they're going to do it anyway"-stay dem

If you think that poor people create jobs-stay dem

If you think multi-millionaire Clintons give a rats ass about "families" -stay a Dem

Plenty more where that came from

[nassaulaw]

Although I am a Republican, I feel bad for the many "disenfranchised" local Democratic Committeepeople who feel they were forgotten by their party when the new Nassau government was formed. These brave souls got nominating petitions signed for losers when nobody cared. Most of these committee people were volunteers in the best sense of the world. They did not have jobs in the Town or the County and performed their service as a labor of love, much like Met fans who still attended ball games in the mid seventies through the early eighties. There was nothing in it for them back then. And yes, the Democrats used some of these naive, mental defectives to do their grunt work. I am familar with one particularly sad case of a truly incompetent democratic committee person who served in the County Attorney's Office under Gulotta. This poor individual was canned by Suozzi even though he carried Suozzi's nominating petitions. Even though many of these Democratic committeepeople were not of the highest caliber, they were used like no human beings should be, and discarded like they were garbage, and for what, so that the administration could hire mediocre middle managers from NYC government. See, flakes and eccentrics are useful idiots when times are lean and there is nothing truly at stake. But these poor unfortunate souls are left in the cold by the hard reality that their volunteerism and small cash donations are considered mere "past consideration." It is a maxim in the Law of Contracts that "past consideration is no consideration." Past loyalties do not imply power and position moving forward. Although the Republicans tend to be more loyal than the Democrats, it is still a competition for scarce resources, and now it is the Democrats who control the lionshare of the local patronage in Nassau. If Fence Sitter wants a government job, he'll have to wait in a very long line at Republican Headquarters, where quite afew people are ahead of him.

So I guess the lesson for Fence Sitter and his ilk is to carefully reassess their reasons for being active in civic affairs. Do they just want a job? Or do they truly believe in a particular ideology or civic philosophy. I would recommend finding a job outside of the political areba and performing those civic and political services you truly believe in, without any thought of personal gain or recognition. There are good and bad, honorable and dishonorable public officials on both sides of the isle. Life can be brutal and you have to follow your beliefs.
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