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ByeDems
10-24-2002, 10:33 PM
Last night I saw 2 white males and 3 black males get out of a blue van to put up McCall signs in Lynbrook, I followed them and they put them up in Valley Stream also, I followed the to a store front , somewhere past Rosedale in Queens, that had a huge McCall sign at the top of the store and other canddidates signs in the window.
Could this have been a Democrat HQ or a McCall HQ? Either way these Queens dems came into our county and littered up Sunrise Hwy.....

NEWSFLASH- Pataki will win Nassau County, so Queens Dems litter your oun area, stay out of ours!

Stop Littering
10-25-2002, 04:37 AM
I'm crying giant tears for you. Every other telephone poll in Nassau County has a Robert Ross sign on it, and that election ended 12 months ago. On those signs that don't, there is a David Sullivan or Phillip Grella Sign. Last time I checked each of these Hacks were on the Republican Line. Clean up your house, before criticizing others.

As a seperate thought, does anyone think that these signs translate into votes.

Truth Be Known
10-25-2002, 04:39 AM
You really needed to identify the races of the people putting up the signs in Lynbrook???? How do you know they weren't Nassau Dems working out of a Queens HQ? Or do no Black people live in Nassau? Sounds a little racist to me.

As far as "littering" sunrise hwy with signs...take a good look around all of our neighborhoods. All parties litter our roadways with signs during election season. Even some Green Party candidates.

And why were you following people?

People volunteer for state candidates and they may come from any part of the state...or from neighboring counties (like Queens and Nassau). You don't exactly need a passport and a plane ticket to get from Lynbrook to Queens.

Grow up.

Traveling Salesman
10-25-2002, 07:21 AM
I will contact the Queens Dems and tell them to stay out of Nassau if you tell the Nassau Republicans to keep their Pataki signs off of Route 110 and other Suffolk Roads.

I guess there are no Democrats that live in Nassau so they had to come from somewhere else. I guess Queens is the logical choice because they couldn't come from Suffolk because there are no Suffolk Dems right?

Are you just scared that McCall may be gaining ground or are you just looking for a reason to cry about something.
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true GOPer
10-25-2002, 04:10 PM
i dont think we have to worry about carl mccall gaining ground, lol. he is the worst candidate since the republicans ran pierre rinfret for governor in 1990!
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Ima Dem
10-25-2002, 05:00 PM
Yeah -McCall's a terrible candidate - raised in poverty to a single mother, put himself through school, Board of Ed President, Ambassador, Best Comptroller state ever had, a life time commitment to public service, and a beautiful wife who is a college president. In 1998, McCall received more votes statewide than George Pataki. Beats the hell out of some of the millionaires elected to National office in 2002. We should have such terrible candidates every year.

What McCall is, is underfunded and a lackluster campaigner, but to compare him to johnny-come-lately millionaire Rinfret is ridiculous.

true GOPer
10-26-2002, 04:47 AM
yeah mccall is a guy who lied about his poverty, said he lived in public housing and never did. was a do-nothing board of ed president who let the school system sink further into its morass. what you call a lifetime commitment is really better defined as a political hack who's "turn" it was to run. his beautiful wife was involved in a major scandal at the college, where she spent a million dollars to redecorate her office - they belong together, two hacks who like to spend and waste our money!!

if he is such a great candidate, how come democrats arent supporting him with money......or votes?

like i said, no fear of him gaining, golisano may even beat him and come in second, lol. keep sending these great candidates 'ima dem'!!
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Ima Dem
10-26-2002, 05:16 AM
I doubt seriously that McCall is going to finish 3rd, but if you really think that Golisano is going to do that well, you should start worrying. Dems would be embaressed to offer the people of New York the Mayor of Peekskill, but as the GOP has proven time and time again -sh*t sells.

true GOPer
10-26-2002, 05:55 AM
i notice ima dem, doesnt challenge any of my points about mccall, but how could he, they are all true!!

so go on name calling, instead of admitting the lack of quality in your candidate.
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Ima Dem
10-26-2002, 08:33 PM
I don't challenge your assertions, because it isn't worth the time or effort to do so. You're the one who criticized McCall. I think your candidate is a useless do nothing hack. I'm not going to change your opinion; you're not going to change mine. As any lawyer will tell you, silence is not an admision. Don't read too much into it.

We've known since September of last year, that the Governor's race this year would be tough. If Pataki wins (and it appears that he will), we'll endure another 4 unproductive years. We've lived through Reagan, we'll survive Pataki.

You'll live through Hillary and Suozzi - the candidates that you ran against them, make McCall look like a giant among men - and I'm sure you voted for both.

true GOPer
10-26-2002, 09:15 PM
mccall looks like a giant only next to suozzi and hillary.

in law silence may not be an admission, but in debate it is!!

what i said was all true and you know it!!
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Ima Dem
10-27-2002, 04:46 AM
I didn't realize this was a debate. A debate is generally based on facts. You made accusations without support. My understanding is that McCall was born into poverty, lived in Public Housing, and that his career as a Public Servant is long and distinguished, espcially when you compare it to the Pre-Governor experience of George Pataki. You apparently spend too much time watching television commercials. Guess What, Political TV commercials aren't always true. So where are the facts?
Your silence should be deafening.

true GOPer
10-27-2002, 05:15 AM
ima dem obviously doenst read the newspapers, if you did you would have seen the articles where news people went researching into mccalls past and couldnt find any proof of his living in public housing, you would hve read about the scandal of mrs mccall and her redecoration, you would have read about the failure of nyc's public schools, made worse during his tenure.

since you are still claiming he lived in public housing, which he has now backtracked on, then i know you do and and will not belive facts

start with these:

"Cuomo's campaign on Tuesday suggested that the question of whether McCall really lived in public housing undermined his credibility, a trait the comptroller has been touting, along with his considerable experience in the public and private sectors, as one reason he is more qualified for the job of governor than his pponent. "New Yorkers deserve to know what the true facts are," Cuomo's unofficial running mate, Charlie King, said in a release on Tuesday. "
www.timesunion.com/AspSto...ryID=55396

and this article:
www.nypost.com/news/regio.../54634.htm

i bet you still insist he didnt over step his fiduciary duties with those letters asking that friends get jobs , where he clearly mentioned all the stocks he controls in the company he was writing too, lol, get your head out of the sand, carl mccall is a political hack!!
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Traveling Salesman
10-27-2002, 02:50 PM
McCall doesn't rate anywhere close to SENATOR CLINTON, or next to COUNTY EXECUTIVE SUOZZI, just as he dosn't rate against RICK LAZIO. Now Bruce Bent, I will say McCall has a chance to rate better than him.

But to say McCall is better than Clinton, Suozzi or Lazio is just crazy.

Clinton, Suozzi and Lazio are all better candidates and public servants than McCall.
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Ima Dem
10-27-2002, 03:59 PM
I don't agree with everything McCall did, just as you couoldn't possibly agree with everthing that Tom Gulotta did (or do you). Can't defend the indefensible so I won't try.

As for the public housing issue, he spent the first ten years of his life living in Roxbury Massachusetts. Public housing would have been safer. Fairly safe to say that you've never even been to such a community. His mother told him, it was public housing - why would he question it. Based on the picture in the post, public housing would have been an improvement. Doesn't prove anything.

BTW - "True GoP'er" is an oxymoron, like commpasionate conservative, and military intelligence.

true GOPer
10-27-2002, 04:38 PM
well, ima dem, thanks for admitting you dont mind if democrats lie when they campaign. the truth doesnt prove anything - huh? well not to democrats, i mean you believe clinton, uhhh can u tell us how to define "is"?? lol

as for our military, i rather support them, than make jokes, they are defending our freedom and the world's freedom after all
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Ima Dem
10-28-2002, 11:02 AM
Since you were silent on the term "compassionate conservative", I can only assume that you admit that it is an oxymoron.