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Bill OReilly
09-08-2002, 07:56 PM
With one good maildate left, here's the no-spin tall from this GOP primary voter.

O'Grady: 4 bulks mailed pieces, 1 first-class letter.
Frisa: 1 bulk mail piece.
Irace: 1 (smaller) bulk mail piece

Phone calls:

O'Grady: 1
Frisa: 0
Irace: 0

Other media: haven't seen or heard any, but heard that Frisa was on WABC radio during Limbaugh (boo!) and O'Grady was on cable.

Misc. Got an O'Grady piece on my windshield while at Mass.

Haven't seen any candidate in person, but would appreciate hearing of sightings.

Nassau GOP "neutrality." Don't know, but would like to.

Did hear from a committeeman that party polls show high recognition and negatives for Frisa and low name recognition for O'Grady. Said committeeman also said that his leader, while expressing no support of O'Grady, made it clear that he wouldn't support Dan.

Question: assuming Dan wins both primaries. Can he actually think he has a shot in the general?

Another question: Irace, nice posters, but why is is wasting his time? Will he pull enough votes in Garden City to play spoiler for Frisa?

Still. Does any of this matter? Sans spin, the GOP folks seem to expend quite a bit of $ for the right to take on the Widow.
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Publicus
09-09-2002, 07:14 AM
I've met all three and O'Grady is the most engaging and intelligent. Irace is a non-factor but could pull enough votes to give it to Frisa. Committeemen are still upset with Frisa's disappearance in '96 leaving us with the widow. Paybacks are always tough. O'Grady has tacit party support, Frisa has none. We'll see.

ridinghi
09-09-2002, 05:43 PM
Skorski has sent out over 20,000 emails to prime Rep. and Cons. voters on behalf of O'Grady
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Retired Colonel
09-09-2002, 06:10 PM
1. Where do you get voter e-mails from? Is this a Nassau thing?

2. Frisa was advertising on WFAN Imus this morning -- that's very expensive.

3. Irace -- good slogan could be "I Race, I Lose."


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john
09-09-2002, 07:19 PM
Irace is pulling votes away committeepeople who were going to vote for O'Grady.

Result is Frisa winning the primary with between 35% and 39%.
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Bill OReilly
09-09-2002, 08:02 PM
Got three pieces from Frisa this morning. I question the effectiveness of mailing several pieces so close together.

Heard though a committeeman from Garden City that Frisa has some sort of anonymous automated call accusing O'Grady of improper campaign financing.

Committeeman said O'Grady went nuclear and has automated calls of her own -- supposedly insinuating that Dan once dealt coke (not in cans).

All of this is entertaining if even only partly true.

The widow must enjoy this schoolyard brouhaha.

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Publicus
09-11-2002, 06:48 AM
Frisa received a good old fashioned whooping. Sets up an interesting showdown between the Doctor and the widow. Both women with Irish Catholic surnames. Except, O'Grady is the real Republican and McCarthy is a liberal Democrat. The pundits will say McCarthy but don't be so sure that O'Grady can't do some damage before this whole thing is over.

Pollster
09-11-2002, 08:45 AM
It will take Marilyn O'Grady far more than an Irish-Catholic surname to win this race.

The GOP gods are sadly mistaken if they think they can win a Congressional race simply by having an ethnically identifiable female candidate run against an ethnically identifiable female candidate. If they proceed to discuss issues, that makes it even tougher nut for Ms. O'Grady - she's so far out in right field Reggie Jackson couldn't find her.

Since you don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing, I give McCarthy a solid 10-12 point advantage just based on past performance and current environmental factors, even without the benefit of any current district level polling data at my disposal.
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Mr Conservative
09-11-2002, 11:50 AM
First, to answer the Col's question, Skorski's campaign was based primarily on direct contact with voters via email. He had, before he was knocked out, a huge list. AS for O'Grady, her whole campaign was based on anti-abortionism and 'I'm not a snake like Frisa.' That won't win in this county, not now, not ever. She's got to define herself better and do it fast, or else we're gonna be looking for a new challenger to mcCarthy in 04. All in all, it's a damn shame that these clowns have managed to botch this race, and by that I mean O'Grady, Skorski, Frisa and Irace. Mondello, Bruno, Skelos and Pataki went out on a huge limb to defend this seat, and now it's staying Democrat unless lightning strikes.

Pollster
09-11-2002, 01:20 PM
Excellent points, especially the last concerning the "leadership". Which is why we need comprehensive change in the leadership structure of the Nassau GOP. It's a great place to start.

Join the reform effort and add yourself to the movement that believes "Change Is Good".


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Take the high road
09-11-2002, 07:50 PM
Your characterization of her campaign is incorrect and clearly negatively biased.
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me
09-16-2002, 06:33 AM
Oh! I like this I might really get the final word.

I don't know about you, but I'm tired of schoolyard gossip. To make things worse, they make up a rumor, if one is not readily available that is true. It seems that our politico's are all about rumor(s). Noone to blame, but the apatheic citizenry of Nassau, Suffolk, Queens.....etc. I hope more people watch the O'Rielly Factor, for fair and balanced reporting. Maybe just maybe they'll get the fire in their bellies, and not be afraid to come out and speak it, live it and believe they have the right to fight for it, as provided for in our Constitution. Then we stand a chance of having elected officials who serve the people who elected them.
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GOP Reform
09-16-2002, 07:32 AM
Change is good.

Start with comprehensive change in the leadership of the Nassau GOP.

Move to comprehensive state election law reform and enact:

- The Frisa Rule - voiding attempts to kick candidates off the ballot for legal technicalities. All we are saying, is give Democracy a chance - let the people decided in a free and open contest. Break the grip of the bosses on nominations.

- Substantially lower the number of signatures required to get on the ballot. A rule of thumb can be school board requirements - 25 signatures (usually) and bingo, you're on the ballot.

- Campaign finance reform akin to McCain/Feingold

- Local initiative and referendum, get the politicians out of the way every now and then and let the people enact laws they won't even consider

- Local term limits - If Change Is Good it should come on a regular basis.

- End to multiple endorsements so that voters have clear choices, not some odd amalgamation such as Rabb running as the Democrat, liberal, green, Independent, working family, right to lifer nonsense. No other state in the nation permits multiple endorsements and NY pays the price by looking like second class electoral idiots (closely followed only by Florida).

Until ballot access/finance and similar initiatives central to the empowering of ordinary citizens are enacted it will be next to impossible to move onto the pressing problems of the day (systemic county budget quagmires, fiscal slight of hands in the townships, 1% kickbacks by muncipal employees, sweetheart deals with contractors -Dems and Reps alike, property tax reform/Income Tax phase in, and on and on and on....).

Mr./Mrs. ME (who ever you are) Join the effor to Reform Now, send your name to PO Box 2003 Manhasset NY 11030. Thank you.

Phase one, in which doris gets her oats will commence with the 2003 Town of Hempstead elections. Let's see if we can make some a 3 party race for a change and strive to win a plurality with a solid reform/fiscal conservative/socially moderate agenda - just like the original Independence plan called for.

Intruder
09-16-2002, 07:50 AM
Some reforms may be needed, but others are wrong.

Term limits are already in existence. Ask the voters in 1999 when they made a Dem majority in the Nassau legislator. Also look at the garbage the City Council does with term limits in the City Council. Last thing I need is a life-term employee of gov't calling the shots while the elected officials keep changing.

As for McCain and his reforms, have you seen his donor list. Big corps. I have lost so much respect for this guy over the last two years.

I would like to see reform with getting on the ballots, but I don't want to make it so easy that any crazy can run. We need some sort of control.

As to reform now, who runs this organization and who is on teh board of directors. We should know who we are sending money or information too when we are solicited!
Do you have a website?
Who is bank-rolling this group?

About challenging petitions, shouldn't someone who commits fraud be thrown off the ballot?

GOP Reform
09-16-2002, 10:02 AM
I see there is the basis for continued discussion.

Please send email address (no money) to Republicans For Reform or Republicans For A Future. PO Box 2003 Manhasset NY 11030. Both are worthy organizations.

There isn't really a bank roll to possessing a PO Box, but if you need to know it's the permit must be held by Bruce Bent or someone close to him. Regardless of your feelings about his 2001 CE campaign, he's been associated with this sort of thing for some time, as have many others, like myself.

And again, as to petition fraud. All violators should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the laws. However, the DA often laughs at these cases, and the best judge and jury happen to be the ordinary voters at the bottom of the political food chain. We say, give them a chance.

In God We Trust, but verify with a free and open debate in which multiple candidtes compete for the votes of citizens and the institutional barriers to contestation and participation are low.

We're getting it together now and finding support in surprising places, so as I said, Intruder is Welcome. It only takes a 37 cent stamp to get it going in your neighborhood.

CuriousIndy
09-16-2002, 10:48 AM
One more BIG reform we need is the end of the horrible "Winner-Take-All" system which we use to elect our political leaders. In other parts of the world, and perhaps a few localities in this country, they use Proportional Representation and Instant Runoff so that third parties have representation of their ideas, and don't serve to be "spoilers" to sometimes elect the party most diametrically opposite to them.

An excellent book on this topic is a recent one by Steven Hill, titles, "Fixing Elections". I am only about halfway through it but it is a page-turner.

I do not oppose those reforms posted by the others here. But this one is truly at the root of the way political campaigns are fought and how so many people are underrepresented in many parts of the country.

GOP Reform
09-16-2002, 12:50 PM
Let's talk about it.

PO Box 2003
Manhasset, NY 11030

First step will be to field Real Independent candidates (not multiple endorsement of any R or D) in the Hempstead Town Board Races.

Run at them from the right and they are a cooked goose, depict the Dems for what they are and bingo - Indy wins with 38% of the vote.