Remembering Ralph Marino

[citizendan]

Any comments or remarks regarding the political career of the late Ralph Marino?

[eros]

not really.........

[citizendan]

Why not?

[informer]

Because he's a stoolie for Joe Mondello and the corrupt GOP Boss Machine that disliked Ralph Marino, and whatever they say Eros mimics too.

Boss says Blah Blah Blah.
Eros says Blah Blah Blah.

It's that simple Dan, get it yet? There are a bunch of these idiots lurking on this website.

[citizendan]

That's foolish. At one time, he was probably the most powerful Republican from Nassau County. He was the State Senate Majority Leader. Regardless, of the GOP shakedown of 1994, doesn't anyone have anything to say about this former power broker from Oyster Bay?

[informer]

Perhaps it is fitting, perhaps it is not, but for sure just by mentioning it the GOP Boss will act retributively to erase the memory from his environment.

On the dedication plaque for GOP HQ in Westbury is an homage to the Oyster Bay Republican Leader at the time - Ralph Marino. For sure Bossman will now have this plaque removed.

Environmentalist, Educator, Pork Barrel Big Spender, Accomplished Legislator - yes.

Fiscal conservative, Populist, Public Watchdog - no.

Hey we could have done worse - Kemp Hannon! And, there's no way Carl Marcellino fills Marino's shoes, he'd need much bigger ones to do that!

[Mr GOP]

Despite Kimberly Wilder, Dead Board and all of my other enemies, I want to display my introspective side. Remember Ralph Marino as a wily leader. He may have been a liberal, but he defenately helped his district get what it wanted. he helped keep our great party in the majority, and by helping the Cursed crime-lover Cuomo pass his budgets, paved the way for George Pataki. If you live in Oyster Bay, you must love him for the bridge business. Think about it, gentlemen. All politics is local, and mr. Marino practiced it. Plus, he was a good and loyal Republican who stood by his party even when it attacked him. Unlike that slimeball Jim Jeffords

[edward thomas]

Is it Pat Hoey?

[That Mr To You]

Maybe not.

What if?

[the boss]

Is he an extremist?

[eduardo]

He's a Joe Mondello extremist to the 33rd degree...

[senor merrick]

Doesnt this guy work at Rep Headquarters on Post Avenue? Wasnt he supposd to run fr McDonough's seat months ago?

[Committeeman Mike]

Yes, he used to work there, but escaped just before the steep party losses began. Someone told me he now works in the City in the Survey and Election unit of a national broadcast company.

None of the GOP's problems are on his hands.

[eros]

He still gets blamed for badmouthing the GOP.

[Mr GOP]

I have a question for all of you insurgents.
What makes you think that I am Pat Hoey, other than the fact that I am a loyal member of the machine. Maybe, I am little more than a dedicated Republican worker who values loyalty? You seem to be a gang of conspiracy theorists, unwilling to accept the fact that the majority of the party accepts Joe Mondello's leadership as it is: elected and legal. The Place to propose a change is not in this rumor board, but in the backrooms of the county committee and on the street. So here's a peice of advice: get organised and start working for what you believe in, because, if what you say is so true and desperate, what you are doing is akin to Nero fiddling while Rome burned. So put up or shut up!
Actually, i'm curious. Is there an legitimate orgnised Dump Mondello movement that exists inside the party structure outside of the lunatic fringer Bent?

[Danny]

When Mondello went to Margiotta's home and feebly informed his wife that her husband was OUT, what became of Mondello's loyalty to his longtime mentor.

Hoey is loyal to the principles of the Republican Party. Mondello is loyal to his own ego. He couldn't give a hoot about Mr. GOP or any one else.
Mr. GOP's loyalty to Mondello is misguided.

[Mr GOP]

I'm loyal to the elected legal leader of our party, not Bruce Bent the Bloodsucker

[Count Gopula]

Who is the real bloodsucker?

The billionaire businessman who convinced the government 30 years ago to compel the market to accomodate one of the most revolutionary ideas in finance called the mutual fund - now the lifeblood of most investments and worth multi-billion dollars today.

Or the millionaire career politician who just exploited the market at the expense of Nassau taxpayers by bleeding the lifeblood of municipal finance through the industrial development agency for the benefit of his law firm and his cronies. His legacy of IDA looting now leaves the county in the red.

[Mr GOP]

What was the percentage of votes Bent won? under 40? after he stole our nomination? I think that my case is sufficient. Now you can back up your accusations with fact. Why do you think I'm Hoey?

[cg]

Bent didn't steal the nomination. The GOP followed the lead of the Conservative Party. Bent lost the election because the GOP didn't give their nominee their famous grassroots support that he needed to get his message out to win. The Bent campaign was hardly noticeable.

There were barely any signs posted. Bent appeared at the bottom of any displayed GOP signs. The bumper sticker was illegible - not one car carried it. There was no active campaign HQ. All campaign storefronts were just that - a front. There was no Bent website.

In contrast, the GOP Gullota campaigns were classic winners. Besides slamming the opposition with campaign slander and innuendos, voters were relentlessly bombarded with the Gulotta name on billboards, buses, bumpers, the PBA and signs. It was a relentless campaign of name recognition and character assassination. And it all worked.

But, last year, the famous GOP machine basically abandoned Bent. They have no one to blame but themselves for blowing it and losing the election.

[Mr GOP]

What happened to the multi million dollar campaign Bent promised? He didn't want our support, and was down in the polls. electoral politics mandated that the wagon be hitched to a star, and the star was Dillon. Bent doomed himself.

[cg]

Good point.

The Bent campaign made evident that old school rank and file party cohesion and grassroots campaigning backed by cash is still more potent than just a paid campaign consultant and political hack like Michael Dawidziak hired to achieve a hostile takeover of the party to ensure the endorsement of his associate.

Billionaires like Bent should be doomed in politics. They need to be discouraged from playing the same games with democracy as they do with the market. Their promises of political fortunes for the foolish party faithful is a fraud. They treat political parties the same way that they treat corporations. They claim that their motives are noble and that their cause is just. They claim that they are motivated to make the party better so that all constituents will realize the American Dream.

But, in truth, their motive is to dethrone the entrenched party chairman just as they would depose a corporate CEO. Their cause is simply self-aggrandizement. In the end, they would treat the party loyalists just like the corporate executives of Enron treated their shareholders.

[So who are today's BSOC?]

And so who are the big shots on campus today?