Randy Outsourcer

[NoMoreTea]

Just wanted to check in and see what's been going on with Randy Outsourcer.

I can't believe this unAmerican outsourcer has the gall to ship AMERICAN jobs to India and then ask us, the middle class taxpayers, to give him a job on our dime.

But I guess when you're in that special 1%, you aren't really keyed into the mind of regular, working class folks. We all can't be millionaires...and the guys who lost their jobs because of Randy Outsourcer will definitely never be millionaires.

Vote Randy if you support outsourcing...he's the "outsourcing pioneer"!

[BISHOPSGOTTAGO]

Just wanted to check in and see what's been going on with Randy Outsourcer.

I can't believe this unAmerican outsourcer has the gall to ship AMERICAN jobs to India and then ask us, the middle class taxpayers, to give him a job on our dime.

But I guess when you're in that special 1%, you aren't really keyed into the mind of regular, working class folks. We all can't be millionaires...and the guys who lost their jobs because of Randy Outsourcer will definitely never be millionaires.

Vote Randy if you support outsourcing...he's the "outsourcing pioneer"!

Maybe outsourcing wouldn't be necessary if the democrats didn't tax our businesses to death which causes such corporations to leave! STOP THE TAXATION-FIRE BISHOP!

[NoMoreTea]

Maybe outsourcing wouldn't be necessary if the democrats didn't tax our businesses to death which causes such corporations to leave! STOP THE TAXATION-FIRE BISHOP!

Uh, yeah. That makes a lot of sense.

I don't care if Bishop killed my cat. If it was him vs. Randy, I would vote Bishop. Why? Because I would NEVER vote for anybody who pioneered the model that lost thousands of honest Americans their jobs...all for a buck.

Randy Outsourcer is bad for honest, hardworking Americans who want to keep their jobs. He should run in India or Sri Lanka...I bet they LOVE him over there.

[BISHOPSGOTTAGO!]

Uh, yeah. That makes a lot of sense.

I don't care if Bishop killed my cat. If it was him vs. Randy, I would vote Bishop. Why? Because I would NEVER vote for anybody who pioneered the model that lost thousands of honest Americans their jobs...all for a buck.

Randy Outsourcer is bad for honest, hardworking Americans who want to keep their jobs. He should run in India or Sri Lanka...I bet they LOVE him over there.

What doesn't make sense? That when you raise taxes and increase regulation, businesses will outsource their jobs where labor is cheaper so they can make a PROFIT? Guess you never passed economics...

[WatchingU]

Uh, yeah. That makes a lot of sense.

I don't care if Bishop killed my cat. If it was him vs. Randy, I would vote Bishop. Why? Because I would NEVER vote for anybody who pioneered the model that lost thousands of honest Americans their jobs...all for a buck.

Randy Outsourcer is bad for honest, hardworking Americans who want to keep their jobs. He should run in India or Sri Lanka...I bet they LOVE him over there.

Our countries tax laws and regulations are chasing business away. Change the tax laws, but Democrats always spend until the run out of other peoples money.
Go Randy!!
Dump Bishop!!!

[NoMoreTea]

What doesn't make sense? That when you raise taxes and increase regulation, businesses will outsource their jobs where labor is cheaper so they can make a PROFIT? Guess you never passed economics...

Sorry dude, if you want to ax American jobs so you can make an even bigger profit than you already have by sending them overseas, you're a greedy bastard.

There's right and there's wrong. Just because you can make more money by firing a bunch of people and shipping their jobs to India doesn't make it right.

Sure, this is America and you have a right to do that, but don't be upset when people don't like you because of what you did. Don't be upset that you can't get elected into office because you hurt honest Americans to get rich.

As I'm sure your mother told you, you may have the freedom to do as you please in this country, but that doesn't mean you have freedom from consequences.

Unless corporatist, globalist, outsourcing Randy can bring those jobs back to America, I don't think he's going to have a good run next year.

[WatchingU]

As I'm sure your mother told you, you may have the freedom to do as you please in this country, but that doesn't mean you have freedom from consequences.


Exactly, you can tax only so much, and then you run out of other peoples money,
The consequences have already occurred in Europe, and we are next

[Randy from New Jersey]

First it was St. James; then it was Smithtown. The real problem for Altschuler is that he's from New Jersey. He doesn't know the difference between Ridge and Ridgewood!
If you left him alone in Wainscott, he wouldn't even know how to get home (without his driver, that is!).

[Unregisteredresident2313]

Sorry dude, if you want to ax American jobs so you can make an even bigger profit than you already have by sending them overseas, you're a greedy bastard.

There's right and there's wrong. Just because you can make more money by firing a bunch of people and shipping their jobs to India doesn't make it right.

Sure, this is America and you have a right to do that, but don't be upset when people don't like you because of what you did. Don't be upset that you can't get elected into office because you hurt honest Americans to get rich.

As I'm sure your mother told you, you may have the freedom to do as you please in this country, but that doesn't mean you have freedom from consequences.

Unless corporatist, globalist, outsourcing Randy can bring those jobs back to America, I don't think he's going to have a good run next year.


You act like he took pride in outsourcing. I don't know any businessman who wakes up in the morning and looks to fire hard working employees. It's either be in business or close the doors.

[NoMoreTea]

You act like he took pride in outsourcing. I don't know any businessman who wakes up in the morning and looks to fire hard working employees. It's either be in business or close the doors.

He did. He was featured in various trade magazines as a "pioneer." He used the money he made from this model to purchase a large house and the other trappings of luxury. I don't know if he thought about what those fired workers were able to buy, but it seems to me a pretty egregious lack of moral character. Sure, it's America and you're allowed to do that sort of thing to make money, but that doesn't mean you should.

Randy Outsourcer CHOSE to make his money by creating a model that sent American jobs overseas for pennies on the dollar, without any thought of the fallout back home.

I CHOOSE to remind everyone I know about this leading up to his next failed campaign. Because my parents taught me better than to make my money by hurting my fellow human beings.

[WatchingU]

Democrats are the party of great intentions, which is their appeal to America's youth. We will all live in Nirvana , just follow the way, unicorns and skittles for all!
And then they grow up. People eventually prefer to be told the truth, the Democrats are now comprised of a coalition of special interests, all want their little sliver, and none get what they want.

Youth - Unicorns and skittles for all
Black - I have no clue, over 50 years of voting Dem and more young men in prison than ever before
Hispanic - Pushing open borders, amnesty for illegal immigration, no border enforcement
Unions - secret ballot for voting, preservation of arcane pension rules, preservation of arcane collective bargaining rules

you try satisfing those special interests

[Unregistered516]

Democrats are the party of great intentions, which is their appeal to America's youth. We will all live in Nirvana , just follow the way, unicorns and skittles for all!
And then they grow up. People eventually prefer to be told the truth, the Democrats are now comprised of a coalition of special interests, all want their little sliver, and none get what they want.

Youth - Unicorns and skittles for all
Black - I have no clue, over 50 years of voting Dem and more young men in prison than ever before
Hispanic - Pushing open borders, amnesty for illegal immigration, no border enforcement
Unions - secret ballot for voting, preservation of arcane pension rules, preservation of arcane collective bargaining rules

you try satisfing those special interests

There are millions of democrats who are not young, black, hispanic, or belong to a union. Millions. And you are a perfect example of why hispanics don't vote republican. A lot of hispanics do not believe in open borders and amnesty, but republicans believe they all think that way.

[NoMoreTea]

Democrats are the party of great intentions, which is their appeal to America's youth. We will all live in Nirvana , just follow the way, unicorns and skittles for all!
And then they grow up. People eventually prefer to be told the truth, the Democrats are now comprised of a coalition of special interests, all want their little sliver, and none get what they want.

Youth - Unicorns and skittles for all
Black - I have no clue, over 50 years of voting Dem and more young men in prison than ever before
Hispanic - Pushing open borders, amnesty for illegal immigration, no border enforcement
Unions - secret ballot for voting, preservation of arcane pension rules, preservation of arcane collective bargaining rules

you try satisfing those special interests

I love how you're trying to shift the conversation away from Randy Outsourcer's black-and-white record on sending American jobs overseas by writing about tired stereotypes and propaganda from the right. Real rigorous debate you offer.

I remind everyone that Randy Boy is responsible for killing the economic lives of his fellow citizens. You say "What do you want? Bishop?" I say Randy chose to get rich by hurting his fellow Americans, you say "You act like he's proud of it." I say he was proud of it by referencing his acceptance of the trade organization awards he received for pioneering the outsourcing model with Office Tiger, you start talking about unions and Hispanics and borders.

If you can't explain to me how Randy's outsourcing is something voters should ignore or see as something good, then maybe you should go post in the Sesame Street forum.

Face it: Randy Althschuler hurt honest Americans by pioneering the model for their jobs to be sent to India, Sri Lanka, and Brazil. You can try to defend him all you want, you can try to shift the conversation in another direction all you want, you can IGNORE the TRUTH all you want.

The voters will not.

P.S. WatchingU? Is there a creepier handle out there?

[UnregisteredTRUTH]

I'm all for dumping Bishop but there is no way on Earth I would support Randy Outsourcer. I'm a conservative republican and I'm backing GEORGE DEMOS, the only real pro-american candidate running for this seat. It's too bad the conservative party's support can be bought, they are no better than the republicans in that way. Let's hope good can pervail over...well you know...let's all get behind George Demos!

[Simple Math]

Randy's formula is simple: A+B=C
a) Randy pays off Walsh for the Conservative line
b) Walsh muscles worthless LaValle
c) Randy gets the Republican line

Isn't America great!

[NoMoreTea]

Randy's formula is simple: A+B=C
a) Randy pays off Walsh for the Conservative line
b) Walsh muscles worthless LaValle
c) Randy gets the Republican line

Isn't America great!

Randy also used simple math to ruin the lives of middle class Americans:

"If you can pay a worker in India a fraction of what you pay an American worker, why would you hire any American workers? You can keep you business in America, benefit from the infrastructure and stability of this country, but hire workers on the other side of the globe after you fire all of your fellow Americans. Who cares? It's all about the Benjamins! Then buy your big house on the North Shore and then seek office on the basis that you're such a good businessman."

[Tparty]

Run Randy Run,

Bishop/Pelosi style of government is dying,
Their model, designed in Europe has already died,
lets not take this failed social experiment any further
Run randy Run

[Unregistered516]

Run Randy Run,

Bishop/Pelosi style of government is dying,
Their model, designed in Europe has already died,
lets not take this failed social experiment any further
Run randy Run

Sure, let yet another republican ruin the economy and destroy jobs. No thanks.

[Tparty]

2012
Run Randy Run!!!

[Unregistered516]

2012
Run Randy Run!!!

Yeah, far away from here!

[Tparty]

Straight to Washington as our Rep

[RandyOutsourcer]

And Randy boy, I mean "Randolph" is still at it: working hard to get more jobs to India while CRUSHING the middle class back home. What a patriot. Totally deserves our votes:

http://www.globallogic.com/randolphaltschuler.html

What a guy.

[LITruth]

And Randy boy, I mean "Randolph" is still at it: working hard to get more jobs to India while CRUSHING the middle class back home. What a patriot. Totally deserves our votes:

http://www.globallogic.com/randolphaltschuler.html

What a guy.

Hey, when you're good at something, you're good at something. Randy was pretty good at taking jobs away from Americans so why wouldn't he help companies continue to do it? I can't believe he's now asking Americans to vote for him.

[R.O. will be K.O.'d]

As a conservative, i cannot vote for Randy Outsourcer.
Why don't we just skip ahead to 2014 election. Unfortunately, Bishop's already won the 2012 election if R.O. is our candidate.

[Randy from New Jersey]

You don't want Bishop. Please vote for me.
See Walsh to get your share of my money.

[Watching2]

A far more adult approach, is to look at why American jobs are being outsourced, why is it prohibitively expensive to maintain manufacturing here and employers in droves relocate overseas.

You might not like what you find, therefore find it more politically expedient to isolate and point out 1 "outsourcer" than to determine the reason why.

[RandyOutsourcer]

A far more adult approach, is to look at why American jobs are being outsourced, why is it prohibitively expensive to maintain manufacturing here and employers in droves relocate overseas.

You might not like what you find, therefore find it more politically expedient to isolate and point out 1 "outsourcer" than to determine the reason why.

Yeah, it's called GREED. Randy came along and told everyone: "Hey, you want to make even MORE money? Get rid of your American workers and pay slave labor wages to Indians! I can help you do that!"

[Watching2]

Yeah, it's called GREED. Randy came along and told everyone: "Hey, you want to make even MORE money? Get rid of your American workers and pay slave labor wages to Indians! I can help you do that!"

I said an adult approach :)

Why is it too expensive in this country? Employers in droves relocate overseas,
Oh, c'mon, You know the answer, just afraid to say it....

[Randy from New Jersey]

So what you're saying is: Randy Outsourcer is an Outsourcer, but he's OUR Outsourcer! Brilliant.

[Watching2]

Oh, c'mon, yo are smarter than that. That is not at all what I said.
WHY?
WHY are ALL American manufacturing jobs relocating. GE, their chairman , is on Obama's jobs committee, just moved a lot of jobs to China.
There has to be a reason....

I know you will come up with it....

I believe in you, you can figure it out

[NoMoreTea]

I said an adult approach :)

Why is it too expensive in this country? Employers in droves relocate overseas,
Oh, c'mon, You know the answer, just afraid to say it....

It isn't too expensive to hire workers in this country. The problem is that the guys at the top all want private jets now, not just a comfortable existence. I truly believe this is what drives people like the Altschulers, Madoffs, and Lays of the world.

Greed. Always. Wanting. More.

Come on now: you seem like a smart fella. You DO see this right? Business was getting along fine in America for decades. The fat cats made money, their workers enjoyed respectable middle class lives with dignity. Then, free trade and outsourcing (thanks Randy!) come on the scene and what happens? The middle class begins to erode and the fat cats are now making the equivalent of multiple times what they were just a few decades ago.

Listen to me carefully: it's greed, plain and simple. Randy facilitates it.

Why would you ever defend someone doing this to Americans? Please explain to us what makes Randy Outsourcer with his PROVEN RECORD of increasing our unemployment rate fit to lead in this country?

I guess if you're a globalist, greedhead, outsourcer like Randy, you see nothing wrong with this picture. But if you're an honest, hardworking American, you do.

Which side are you on: outsourcers or working class Americans? It's a simple question. No politics on this one; it's a question of principle. Where do you stand?

[Watching2]

Nope, corporate jets is not the answer, you sound like Obama or Pelosi, or even Bishop now. Corpoate jet tax was a big laugh, it would put companies in this country that hire people out of work for a minimal amount of money.

Free trade is part of it, so 1 answer is no, many times companies cannot make money in this country, if the competition is overseas. You would prefer that the owner lose money thasn relocate his company?

And taxes and government regulations drive American business overseas.

So to correct this, change the laws, but don't attack the businessman.

Change the laws, and the politicians. Dump Bishop

Go Randy

[Unregistered516]

Nope, corporate jets is not the answer, you sound like Obama or Pelosi, or even Bishop now. Corpoate jet tax was a big laugh, it would put companies in this country that hire people out of work for a minimal amount of money.

Free trade is part of it, so 1 answer is no, many times companies cannot make money in this country, if the competition is overseas. You would prefer that the owner lose money thasn relocate his company?

And taxes and government regulations drive American business overseas.

So to correct this, change the laws, but don't attack the businessman.

Change the laws, and the politicians. Dump Bishop

Go Randy

You and Randy hate America. Bottom line.

[rerere]

You and Randy hate America. Bottom line.

I don't believe that for an instant, but what they advocate will eventually destroy this country. Taxes aren't what's pushing companies overseas, greed is. And while US capitalism inevitably seeks greater profits, it's the American consumer, the taxpayer, that supports these corporations, wherever they plant their corporate headquarters. The pro Randy poster probably believes that US taxes also pushed American millionaires to illegally hide their money overseas. Nonsense, just another manifestation of greed by the (self styled) entitled classes. I have no doubt that the problem is self-limiting though. With the ongoing destruction of the American middle class, the bankers, CEOs, and the others will kill the cow that feeds them.

[Watching2]

Just change the rules so the companies can make money here.
All of the "Outsourcing is evil" contingent never produce the numbers, just show the difference in the profit numbers, then maybe their argument will be more believable.

[rereee]

Just change the rules so the companies can make money here.
All of the "Outsourcing is evil" contingent never produce the numbers, just show the difference in the profit numbers, then maybe their argument will be more believable.

You already changed the rules. Deregulation resulted in record profits and the destruction of the greatest economy in the world. Nice job, but hey, you got what you wanted.

[From Sri Lanka with love]

Message to Watching2 from Randy Outsourcer:
"Thanks for your help. Meet me in the parking lot tomorrow night at 1 a.m. and bring a large bag!"

[Randy from New Jersey]

Can everyone get in on this, or do you have to be a government official?

[NoMoreTea]

Can everyone get in on this, or do you have to be a government official?

It's open to everyone. I'm a guy in the district Randy wants to represent. We don't like outsourcers here.

[UnregisteredDumpBishop]

Bishop has done more harm to the Nation by votoing lock-step
with Nancy "read the billl after you sign it" Pelosi, Barry "I bow to the enemy" Obama, Harry "let's support communism over capitolism" Reid,
should I go on?

Tim Bishop is a commie, left-wing, progressive. Check out how he signs
off on his letters, "in Progress"....

Socialism is not PROGRESS !!! Let's just ask Nazi Germany, Red China,
Russia and Cuba how PROGRESS worked out for the People of those Countries.

[back to school..]

Bishop has done more harm to the Nation by votoing lock-step
with Nancy "read the billl after you sign it" Pelosi, Barry "I bow to the enemy" Obama, Harry "let's support communism over capitolism" Reid,
should I go on?

Tim Bishop is a commie, left-wing, progressive. Check out how he signs
off on his letters, "in Progress"....

Socialism is not PROGRESS !!! Let's just ask Nazi Germany, Red China,
Russia and Cuba how PROGRESS worked out for the People of those Countries.

"Votoing"?? "Capitolism"? Yes, I'll listen to you. You're so intelligent.

[NoMoreTea]

Just change the rules so the companies can make money here.
All of the "Outsourcing is evil" contingent never produce the numbers, just show the difference in the profit numbers, then maybe their argument will be more believable.

Again, I'll ask you to state why the middle class on Long Island should ignore Randy's job killing career history and support him.

You aren't allowed to use code words like "Bishop, Pelosi, Commie, Obama, Lib." You can't run on a platform that you're "not the other guy." If Randy would be such a great leader, his ideas should stand on their own.

If outsourcing is a-ok with you and your party, then why should jobless Americans and those threatened with layoffs because of outsourcing vote Randy anyway.

I'll give you another shot.

[Watching2]

Just change the rules so the companies can make money here.
All of the "Outsourcing is evil" contingent never produce the numbers, just show the difference in the profit numbers, then maybe their argument will be more believable.

Altschuler will help change the rules where American business can thrive again

[Unregistered516]

Just change the rules so the companies can make money here.
All of the "Outsourcing is evil" contingent never produce the numbers, just show the difference in the profit numbers, then maybe their argument will be more believable.

Altschuler will help change the rules where American business can thrive again

Yeah, overseas. We know that already. Try again.

[Watching2]

That is the answer, change the rules for businesses here.

But Bishop won't do that, he will raise taxes higher on American business.

Bishop is the reason American business looks overseas, to escape taxation

[Unregistered516]

That is the answer, change the rules for businesses here.

But Bishop won't do that, he will raise taxes higher on American business.

Bishop is the reason American business looks overseas, to escape taxation

No, Randy knows that American companies don't pay $.50/hr. with no benefits.

[. Oh the humanity]

This is ugly, kind of like watching an elephant stomp on a bellowing mouse. PLEASE, someone help the Outsourcer guy form a cogent argument.

[Randy from New Jersey]

You're right. He's supporting me and I don't even understand his arguments.

[Office Lion]

Even Watching2 has given up trying to defend Randy Outsourcer.
Is there anyone left out there to defend Randolph?
Anyone?....Anyone?.... Bueler?

[Don'tBeABully]

Leave him alone; he's busy memorizing Fox network sound bites. He'll be back.

[Unregistered516]

It shows vision, insight and problem solving, skills needed in our politicians today.
As Congressman Altschuler brings all these to the table.

Operating as a private entrepreneur he came upon a novel approach, one that you don't like, American business did.

Now he will be called upon for more novel creative ideas as Congressman from LI, and he will deliver.

[Unregistered516]

It shows vision, insight and problem solving, skills needed in our politicians today.
As Congressman Altschuler brings all these to the table.

Operating as a private entrepreneur he came upon a novel approach, one that you don't like, American business did.

Now he will be called upon for more novel creative ideas as Congressman from LI, and he will deliver.

More novel creative ideas to screw the American worker and reward Wall Street? Gee, can't wait. That's who he serves, you know. Wall Street. As far as Randy's concerned the American worker can go screw himself. Looks like you share those feelings.

[Randy from New Jersey]

Is Unregistered516 actually debating himself?
I'm confused.

[Unregistered516]

Is Unregistered516 actually debating himself?
I'm confused.

The pro-Randy 516 poster has multiple personality disorder. He posts here under several names but always with the same content. Maybe he wants to be me now, who knows?

[Randy from New Jersey]

It's probably "Watching2".
He had to switch his name because his rants were too dumb, and he was embarrassed!

[From Sri Lanka with love]

Now there's no one left to defend me. Isn't there someone out there who can love an OUTSOURCER?

[From Sri Lanka with love]

Finally a supporter. When you hold the meeting of all of my supporters, please tell both of them that I appreciate it.

[zxzxzx]

Sadly, it seems that pro-business policies like deregulation and lower taxes only contribute more to the greed of the hyper rich. Randy's pro-business policies will make it easier for the 1% to make even more money while the 99% are left to fight over the scraps.

Randy is anti-American worker. Period. He's pro-rich, anti-middle class. That is his history, that is his record.

The good news is that the outsourcing problem is self-limited.

The bad news is that it will end with the total elimination of the US middle class.

[Unheardof]

Altschuler is a phony! He Buys the Conservative endorsement with his $$$ the Pubs love him because he has the $$ to run. Let's not forget this guy was a member of the Green Party a few years back and had a stretch of 10 years where he didn't even vote! Some Conservative alright. He's nothing but an ego maniac with a big bank account! DEMOS IN 2012!

[U22209]

The good news is that the outsourcing problem is self-limited.

The bad news is that it will end with the total elimination of the US middle class.

The good news is the the Republicans took over the House. The bad news , Obama is still President until 2012

[FourMore]

The good news is the the Republicans took over the House. The bad news , Obama is still President until 2012

2016.

That's not a hope or a dream...it's a reality.

[U22209]

2016.

That's not a hope or a dream...it's a reality.

U.S. registered voters, by 46% to 38%, continue to say they are more likely to vote for the Republican presidential candidate than for Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election. The generic Republican led by the same eight-percentage-point margin in September, and also held a lead in July. The August update, conducted just after an agreement to raise the federal debt limit, had Obama with a slight edge.

[Unregistered516]

Here's an idea - how about the pro-Randy Unregistered516, U22209, tered3131, and Unrered hold a rally for Randy. Of course, that would be a small rally since they are all the same poster.

[RandyOutsourcer]

Here's an idea - how about the pro-Randy Unregistered516, U22209, tered3131, and Unrered hold a rally for Randy. Of course, that would be a small rally since they are all the same poster.

And none of them can defend Randy's anti-American outsourcing, so they keep on trying to change the subject.

FACT: Randy started a company that helped already successful companies save money by firing their American workers and hiring workers in Third World countries for cheap.

FACT: Hundreds of thousands of American jobs were lost as a direct result of OUTSOURCING.

Now Randy claims to have some ideas about further deregulating businesses so that they can help make "jobs." What he leaves out is that these jobs will be available to residents of China, India, and Sri Lanka. No new American jobs from Randy Boy.

That Randy, what a patriot. Always helping his fellow Americans.

[red765]

U.S. registered voters, by 46% to 38%, continue to say they are more likely to vote for the Republican presidential candidate than for Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election. The generic Republican led by the same eight-percentage-point margin in September, and also held a lead in July. The August update, conducted just after an agreement to raise the federal debt limit, had Obama with a slight edge.

Republican president with a Republican House and Senate can reverse Obama policies and have US business thriving again.

[Unregistered516]

Republican president with a Republican House and Senate can reverse Obama policies and have US business thriving again.

NOT by outsourcing US jobs. You're trying to change the subject again. This thread is about Randy Outsourcer.

[Un2209]

As a sitting US Congressman Altschuler would be passing legislation proposed by the Republican House, Senate and President,
I do not believe any candidate is running on outsourcing jobs. I do not believe any Republican legislation would be for outsourcing jobs,
So how would Altschuler outsource jobs as a US Congressman?
He couldn't, So your whole argument is a false strawman.
In actuality, Altschuler is for business policy that would strengthen US business.

Exactly, make Altschuler part of the Republican team in 2012 that will stop the Obama policies and put this country on the right track. A vote for Bishop is a vote for Obama.
Stop Obmam now. Vote Altschuler!!!

[Unregistered516]

Randy and the reps kowtow to Wall Street. That means higher profits through cheaper labor. Where do you find cheaper labor? Overseas. A vote for Randy is a vote against the American worker.

[U22209]

Randy and the reps kowtow to Wall Street. That means higher profits through cheaper labor. Where do you find cheaper labor? Overseas. A vote for Randy is a vote against the American worker.

Obama has received more money from Wall Street in 2008, and still today has more money from Wall Street than all 9 republican candidates combined.

A vote for Bishop is a vote for Obama. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

Run away , run away! No More Obama!

[Randy from New Jersey]

As long as the Repubs control the House, we don't need Randy Outsourcer's vote for the Speaker.
On other votes, he's the same as Bishop, only worse. At least Bishop is proud he's a liberal.

[U22209]

As long as the Repubs control the House, we don't need Randy Outsourcer's vote for the Speaker.
On other votes, he's the same as Bishop, only worse. At least Bishop is proud he's a liberal.

In what universe?

Republicans will control the House and adding Randy will add to the majority.

[Unregisteredcvcvcv]

Obama has received more money from Wall Street in 2008, and still today has more money from Wall Street than all 9 republican candidates combined.

You making this up as you go? Thats not what the NY Times reported.

[Un2209]

You making this up as you go? Thats not what the NY Times reported.

Good catch! Actually the NY Times made it up, the Washington Post corrected them several days later!
Nice try though.

[RandyOutsourcer]

Hi, I'm Randy Outsourcer. I want YOU to elect ME to represent you.

I'm a rich boy carpetbagger from New Jersey who has always gotten everything he's wanted. I wanted to be rich, so I sold out American jobs to Indians for a ton of money. Now I'm on the north shore sitting on a Scrooge McDuck-like pile of money.

Now I want to be a politician, so I'm going to try to sling mud at a true Long Islander with a proven record of delivering to his constituents. What do you want from me? I'm a big, outsourcing, anti-American, Jersey boy baby.

Elect Randy Boy to office. I will fight to further deregulate businesses until YOU, the taxpayer, have no protections from them. I will fight hard to make sure the rich don't pay what they don't want to.

Run, Randy, Run! OUTSOURCING FOREVER!

[istered]

Obama has received more money from Wall Street in 2008, and still today has more money from Wall Street than all 9 republican candidates combined.

A vote for Bishop is a vote for Obama. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

Run away , run away! No More Obama!

[Unregistered516]

Obama has received more money from Wall Street in 2008, and still today has more money from Wall Street than all 9 republican candidates combined.

A vote for Bishop is a vote for Obama. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

Run away , run away! No More Obama!

Randy's whole history says he is pro-outsourcing and anti-American jobs. Bottom line: if you believe in keeping jobs in America, don't vote for Randy.

[Randy from New Jersey]

Adding to the majority in the House, unlike the Senate, is meaningless.
A simple majority rules in the House; it doesn't matter how many votes you get after 218!
In 2010-I could have bought your argument (when we were trying to capture the house). But now, with a large majority, we do not need him, and do not want him.
He would most likely switch parties if the Congress ever shifted anyway.

[From Sri Lanka with love]

If elected, do I have to stay a Republican?
I prefer the Green Party.

[UnObserveB]

As a sitting US Congressman Altschuler would be passing legislation proposed by the Republican House, Senate and President,
I do not believe any candidate is running on outsourcing jobs. I do not believe any Republican legislation would be for outsourcing jobs,
So how would Altschuler outsource jobs as a US Congressman?
He couldn't, So your whole argument is a false strawman.
In actuality, Altschuler is for business policy that would strengthen US business

[NoMoreTea]

As a sitting US Congressman Altschuler would be passing legislation proposed by the Republican House, Senate and President,
I do not believe any candidate is running on outsourcing jobs. I do not believe any Republican legislation would be for outsourcing jobs,
So how would Altschuler outsource jobs as a US Congressman?
He couldn't, So your whole argument is a false strawman.
In actuality, Altschuler is for business policy that would strengthen US business

You said it yourself: he is for business policy that would strengthen business. In the past, that meant easing regulations and fighting for global free trade so that outsourcing could be used more widely and for more corporate profits. That is Randy's concern: profits, not people.

Since young Randolf has never held public office, we can only look at his business record to deduce the kind of politician he would be. I think the fact that he practically invented outsourcing speaks volumes about what is important to him and paints a pretty clear and stark picture for voters. In a time when we have politicians essentially acting as the political wing for major corporations, Althschuler seems like more of the same: a self-serving, short-sighted, money-obsessed wannabe politician.

There's no straw man argument here: it's his record as a businessman. Sure, he may have made big profits for his clients, but you have to always ask, "At what cost to his fellow Americans?" That's a fair question and is absolutely relevant to his campaign.

[UnObserveB]

If that is your argument, Bishop is in real trouble. Republican policy is for creating jobs in the US,

Outsourcing was a business reaction to strict regulations pushed by liberal Democrats like Bishop.
The policies of Obama, Pelosi, Bishop is what caused outsourcing.



As a sitting US Congressman Altschuler would be passing legislation proposed by the Republican House, Senate and President,
I do not believe any candidate is running on outsourcing jobs. I do not believe any Republican legislation would be for outsourcing jobs,
So how would Altschuler outsource jobs as a US Congressman?
He couldn't, So your whole argument is a false strawman.
In actuality, Altschuler is for business policy that would strengthen US business.

[NoMoreTea]

If that is your argument, Bishop is in real trouble. Republican policy is for creating jobs in the US,

Outsourcing was a business reaction to strict regulations pushed by liberal Democrats like Bishop.
The policies of Obama, Pelosi, Bishop is what caused outsourcing.



Absolutely not. Outsourcing was a business reaction to GREED, plain and simple.

More profits, fewer expenditures. That's the motto. Don't fool yourself or anyone else with the bogus argument that it's the amorphous "regulations" you always mention, or that it had anything to do with "Obama, Pelosi, and Bishop." It is greed. That is all. Randy put profits before American jobs. That is it.

And it is a total lie that Republicans want to pass a jobs bill or create jobs. Their corporate constituents have received millions of public money, incredible tax breaks, and relaxed regulations and have done nothing with it except write bigger bonus checks.

Randy represents greed at the expense of American jobs. He is not fit to lead in this country. He can go back to the board room and find more lives to ruin for a nickel.

[Randy from New Jersey]

All right. I admit it.
I live in the gated community of Head of the Harbor, not St. James where regular people live. St. James just sounds better when you're asking the poor slobs to vote for you.
Originally, I tried to say I was from Smithtown, but even I couldn't get away with that. So now I use St. James. Oh well.
Once I'm elected, I can give my real address and concentrate on the one thing that matters most to me- making money by outsourcing American jobs!

[NoMoreTea]

All right. I admit it.
I live in the gated community of Head of the Harbor, not St. James where regular people live. St. James just sounds better when you're asking the poor slobs to vote for you.
Originally, I tried to say I was from Smithtown, but even I couldn't get away with that. So now I use St. James. Oh well.
Once I'm elected, I can give my real address and concentrate on the one thing that matters most to me- making money by outsourcing American jobs!

Randy's problem isn't SO MUCH that he's an opportunistic carpetbagger who thought he's ride the Tea Party wave to elected office so he could help out his billionaire friends...

no, his problem is that he's an OUTSOURCING carpetbagger who thought he'd ride the Tea Party wave to elected office so he could help out his billionaire friends.

[UnObserveB]

If that is your argument, Bishop is in real trouble. Republican policy is for creating jobs in the US,

Outsourcing was a business reaction to strict regulations pushed by liberal Democrats like Bishop.
The policies of Obama, Pelosi, Bishop is what caused outsourcing.



As a sitting US Congressman Altschuler would be passing legislation proposed by the Republican House, Senate and President,
I do not believe any candidate is running on outsourcing jobs. I do not believe any Republican legislation would be for outsourcing jobs,
So how would Altschuler outsource jobs as a US Congressman?
He couldn't, So your whole argument is a false strawman.
In actuality, Altschuler is for business policy that would strengthen US business.

[UnObserveB]

Is written below,
and you can't handle the truth,
Bye bye Bishop

If that is your argument, Bishop is in real trouble. Republican policy is for creating jobs in the US,

Outsourcing was a business reaction to strict regulations pushed by liberal Democrats like Bishop.
The policies of Obama, Pelosi, Bishop is what caused outsourcing.

As a sitting US Congressman Altschuler would be passing legislation proposed by the Republican House, Senate and President,
I do not believe any candidate is running on outsourcing jobs. I do not believe any Republican legislation would be for outsourcing jobs,
So how would Altschuler outsource jobs as a US Congressman?
He couldn't, So your whole argument is a false strawman.
In actuality, Altschuler is for business policy that would strengthen US business.

[dumdum..]

Is written below,
and you can't handle the truth,
Bye bye Bishop

If that is your argument, Bishop is in real trouble. Republican policy is for creating jobs in the US,

Outsourcing was a business reaction to strict regulations pushed by liberal Democrats like Bishop.
The policies of Obama, Pelosi, Bishop is what caused outsourcing.

As a sitting US Congressman Altschuler would be passing legislation proposed by the Republican House, Senate and President,
I do not believe any candidate is running on outsourcing jobs. I do not believe any Republican legislation would be for outsourcing jobs,
So how would Altschuler outsource jobs as a US Congressman?
He couldn't, So your whole argument is a false strawman.
In actuality, Altschuler is for business policy that would strengthen US business.

Outsourcing existed long before Obama, Pelosi or Bishop ever thought about running for office. It happened because of republican greed. You can't even get your facts straight before you post. And which Republican candidate has said he/she would stop outsourcing? Oh, that would be none. So your whole argument just fell into the sh_tter. Oh well.

[Un098987registered]

Tea PArty continues in 2012
Limit the size of government, reduce business regulations,
Let business flourish in America
2012 Republican
Vote Altschuler in...

[Unregistered8456]

Outsourcing existed long before Obama, Pelosi or Bishop ever thought about running for office. It happened because of republican greed. You can't even get your facts straight before you post. And which Republican candidate has said he/she would stop outsourcing? Oh, that would be none. So your whole argument just fell into the sh_tter. Oh well.

Don't even bother. The Observer is just a braindead follower of the elite superrich, thinking that if he licks their boots long enough, they'll accept him.

He can't see the forest for the trees.

[dumdum..]

Tea PArty continues in 2012
Limit the size of government, reduce business regulations,
Let business flourish in America
2012 Republican
Vote Altschuler in...

Tea party is toast:

28% favorable, 53% unfavorable
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2011/09/27/thumbs-down-to-tea-party-poll/

More strongly opposed (22%) than strongly support (15%)
http://www.gallup.com/poll/148940/tea-party-sparks-antipathy-passion.aspx

Looks like their 15 minutes is about over.

[3654red]

I love toast with my tea:)

We shall see in 2012,

Me thinks voters have had enough of Nancy Pelosi and her ilk.

Even the Democrat governor of NY is acting like a Tea Party favorite,

Man, did he take the unions to the woodshed.

Cuomo, Tea Party!!

[Unre007]

Andrew Cuomo, toast of the NY Tea Party.
Cuomo for Altschuler!!!

[Unre007]

Not likely,

Just ask our latest Tea Party champion,
Andrew Cuomo!!!

[Unregistered516]

Not likely,

Just ask our latest Tea Party champion,
Andrew Cuomo!!!

As long as Randy isn't in there destroying American jobs, fine.

[Pared]

Bye Bye Bishop,

2012 Tea Party - Continues the job started in 2010,
More Republican House members
Senate flips Republican
Sends Obama packing
Randy in 2012

[dumdum..]

Bye Bye Bishop,

2012 Tea Party - Continues the job started in 2010,
More Republican House members
Senate flips Republican
Sends Obama packing
Randy in 2012

Tea party was popular, not anymore.

28% favorable, 53% unfavorable
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepol...ea-party-poll/

More strongly opposed (22%) than strongly support (15%)
http://www.gallup.com/poll/148940/te...y-passion.aspx

[Randy from New Jersey]

The issue is not the Tea Party; the issue is that Randolph outsourced American jobs.

[UnObserveb]

Outsourcing was a business reaction to strict regulations pushed by liberal Democrats like Bishop.
The policies of Obama, Pelosi, Bishop is what caused outsourcing.

As a sitting US Congressman Altschuler would be passing legislation proposed by the Republican House, Senate and President,
I do not believe any candidate is running on outsourcing jobs. I do not believe any Republican legislation would be for outsourcing jobs,
So how would Altschuler outsource jobs as a US Congressman?
He couldn't, So your whole argument is a false strawman.
In actuality, Altschuler is for business policy that would strengthen US business.

[dumdum..]

Outsourcing was a business reaction to strict regulations pushed by liberal Democrats like Bishop.
The policies of Obama, Pelosi, Bishop is what caused outsourcing.

As a sitting US Congressman Altschuler would be passing legislation proposed by the Republican House, Senate and President,
I do not believe any candidate is running on outsourcing jobs. I do not believe any Republican legislation would be for outsourcing jobs,
So how would Altschuler outsource jobs as a US Congressman?
He couldn't, So your whole argument is a false strawman.
In actuality, Altschuler is for business policy that would strengthen US business.

How old are you, 5? You keep posting the same crap as if you had ADD.

[UnObserveb]

How old are you, 5? You keep posting the same crap as if you had ADD.

It is still the truth, whether posted once or 5 times.


Outsourcing was a business reaction to strict regulations pushed by liberal Democrats like Bishop.
The policies of Obama, Pelosi, Bishop is what caused outsourcing.

As a sitting US Congressman Altschuler would be passing legislation proposed by the Republican House, Senate and President,
I do not believe any candidate is running on outsourcing jobs. I do not believe any Republican legislation would be for outsourcing jobs,
So how would Altschuler outsource jobs as a US Congressman?
He couldn't, So your whole argument is a false strawman.
In actuality, Altschuler is for business policy that would strengthen US business.

[UnObserveb]

It is still the truth, whether posted once or 5 times.


Outsourcing was a business reaction to strict regulations pushed by liberal Democrats like Bishop.
The policies of Obama, Pelosi, Bishop is what caused outsourcing.

As a sitting US Congressman Altschuler would be passing legislation proposed by the Republican House, Senate and President,
I do not believe any candidate is running on outsourcing jobs. I do not believe any Republican legislation would be for outsourcing jobs,
So how would Altschuler outsource jobs as a US Congressman?
He couldn't, So your whole argument is a false strawman.
In actuality, Altschuler is for business policy that would strengthen US business.

[Unregistered516]

Funny, it's a year out and already Randy's finished.

[From Sri Lanka with love]

They still love me India. Do they get to vote in CD-1?

[Law Mama]

They still love me India. Do they get to vote in CD-1?

Remember, according to Mitt Romney & Randy, "Corporations are people too".

[UnDumpBishop]

Small business has always been the lifeblood of Long Island’s economy and we need policies in Washington that incentivize local residents to follow their dreams and turn ideas into products, jobs and profits that can revitalize our local economy,” said Altschuler. “In order to do that, we need full-scale reforms that make it easier to access credit, eliminate red tape and ease regulations, streamline government by creating a one-stop shop for business start-ups and make better use of the internet to provide information to willing entrepreneurs.”

[Unregistered516]

Small business has always been the lifeblood of Long Island’s economy and we need policies in Washington that incentivize local residents to follow their dreams and turn ideas into products, jobs and profits that can revitalize our local economy,” said Altschuler. “In order to do that, we need full-scale reforms that make it easier to access credit, eliminate red tape and ease regulations, streamline government by creating a one-stop shop for business start-ups and make better use of the internet to provide information to willing entrepreneurs.”

"..in India."

[Until2012]

Small business has always been the lifeblood of Long Island’s economy and we need policies in Washington that incentivize local residents to follow their dreams and turn ideas into products, jobs and profits that can revitalize our local economy,” said Altschuler. “In order to do that, we need full-scale reforms that make it easier to access credit, eliminate red tape and ease regulations, streamline government by creating a one-stop shop for business start-ups and make better use of the internet to provide information to willing entrepreneurs.”

The end of pelosi politics on LI

[RandyOutsourcer]

Small business has always been the lifeblood of Long Island’s economy and we need policies in Washington that incentivize local residents to follow their dreams and turn ideas into products, jobs and profits that can revitalize our local economy,” said Altschuler. “In order to do that, we need full-scale reforms that make it easier to access credit, eliminate red tape and ease regulations, streamline government by creating a one-stop shop for business start-ups and make better use of the internet to provide information to willing entrepreneurs.”

Yes. That is Randy's platform, but it only applies to Indians and Sri Lankans. This arrogant millionaire could give a shit less about his fellow Americans.

[444tered]

Small business has always been the lifeblood of Long Island’s economy and we need policies in Washington that incentivize local residents to follow their dreams and turn ideas into products, jobs and profits that can revitalize our local economy,” said Altschuler. “In order to do that, we need full-scale reforms that make it easier to access credit, eliminate red tape and ease regulations, streamline government by creating a one-stop shop for business start-ups and make better use of the internet to provide information to willing entrepreneurs.”

It's about time to write some legislation to keep American business in America.
Dump Bishop/Pelosi

Vote Altschuler

[Unregistered516]

It's about time to write some legislation to keep American business in America.

Don't vote Altschuler

Fixed.

[Waiting4]

It's about time to write some legislation to keep American business in America.
Dump Bishop/Pelosi

Vote Altschuler

Finish the job we started in 2010,

Vote Altschuler

[RandyOutsourcer]

Finish the job we started in 2010,

Vote Altschuler

Put more money in the hands of the 1%.

Vote Altschuler.

Send More American Jobs Overseas.

Vote Altschuler.

Suffocate the Working Middle Class in America.

Vote Altschuler.

[d80987]

Put more money in the hands of the 99%.

Vote Altschuler.

Keep American Jobs Here.

Vote Altschuler.

Help the Working Middle Class in America.

Vote Altschuler.

I concur

[Randy from New Jersey]

This is great news! Finally, some of my paid volunteers are starting to praise my ability to outsource American jobs.

[werw1]

Small business has always been the lifeblood of Long Island’s economy and we need policies in Washington that incentivize local residents to follow their dreams and turn ideas into products, jobs and profits that can revitalize our local economy,” said Altschuler. “In order to do that, we need full-scale reforms that make it easier to access credit, eliminate red tape and ease regulations, streamline government by creating a one-stop shop for business start-ups and make better use of the internet to provide information to willing entrepreneurs.”

Exactly, Democrats just want to push up taxes, as usual. We need Altschuler in Congress for another vote to STOP raisinfg taxes and cut spending.

[kjiy7]

I love toast with my tea:)

We shall see in 2012,

Me thinks voters have had enough of Nancy Pelosi and her ilk.

Even the Democrat governor of NY is acting like a Tea Party favorite,

Man, did he take the unions to the woodshed.

Cuomo, Tea Party!!

Exactly, even a NY Blue state governor, Andrew Cuomo is adopting the policies of the Tea Party.
Do the same and vote Altschuler

[Randy from New Jersey]

The reason I like the "Tea" Party is that it reminds of all those warm beverages I consumed when I was in India making deals to outsource American jobs.

[234rt]

Exactly, even a NY Blue state governor, Andrew Cuomo is adopting the policies of the Tea Party.
Do the same and vote Altschuler

This was a shock even to the Tea Party, Andy , Son of Mario, walking the Tea Party line.
Layoffs, no tax increases.....why that is a Altschuler platform

Not Bishop though

[Unregistered516]

How high does Randy want unemployment to go? 10%? 11%?

[UnregisteredGoRandyGo]

Bishop is worried and so are the rest of the Democrooks. I love the
flyer they have been sending around about the Tea Party - If the TEA party wins, we lose. You got that right !!!

I would say that Obama and Bishop will be gone in Nov 2012 !!!!!

[RandyOutsourcer]

How high does Randy want unemployment to go? 10%? 11%?

Randy is one of the causes for unemployment in this country. Just ask any of the thousands of middle class Americans who saw their jobs shipped to India in the 90s because of Randy Altschuler's Office Tiger.

The truth is that Randy doesn't care about unemployment, or his fellow Americans. Randy only looks out for Randy and if elected, will continue to do the same. Who loses? The American workers.

I would love to know why Randy's defenders on here support him. I get it that they aren't happy with democratic leadership, that's fine. So then support a true conservative candidate, not this outsourcer.

[kjiy7]

Bishop is worried and so are the rest of the Democrooks. I love the
flyer they have been sending around about the Tea Party - If the TEA party wins, we lose. You got that right !!!

I would say that Obama and Bishop will be gone in Nov 2012 !!!!!

Wait until Bishop, that old college president guy gets tied together with OWS, that group and Bishop go hand in hand in.
Bunch of anarchists, which is what Pelosi and Bishop were .
Altschuler in 2012

[UnregisteredOWS]

Send more jobs overseas so CEOs and can make more money!

Altschuler in 2012!

Exactly , We are the 99%, Bishop represents us,
We will overthrow capitalism and redistribute all the wealth to everyone,
As it should always be
Go Bishop,
We got your back, the 99%

[UnregisteredOWS]

Exactly , We are the 99%, Bishop represents us,
We will overthrow capitalism and redistribute all the wealth to everyone,
As it should always be
Go Bishop,
We got your back, the 99%

Call it a case of law and disorder.
Occupy Wall Street protesters today clashed with the NYPD on the steps of Manhattan Supreme Court — and at least 20 of them may soon find themselves inside a nearby courthouse.
Most of the protesters were arrested across from Foley Square during a tense standoff with police at about 4 p.m.
But at least one was nabbed while trying to run away.

“It’s our sidewalk! It’s our sidewalk!” several chanted as they pushed back against cops setting up netting to keep them off the steps of 60 Centre Street. Charges are pending.

More than 100 marched the 10 blocks from the Zuccotti Park encampment to Foley Square, where some immediately tried to get through to the steps.
Some cops continued to set up the barriers, while others used bullhorns to order the group to keep moving. Those who were not arrested hustled back to Zuccotti Park.

Earlier, a 26-year-old man believed to have been crashing with the protesters was busted for urinating on an NYPD van parked outside Zuccotti, cops said.
Edgar Rivera, described by cops as a Guatemalan immigrant and Queens resident, was caught at about 1:20 a.m. relieving himself on the vehicle from Brooklyn’s 70th Precinct near Trinity Place and Church Street.

He tried to escape but was collared half a block away, cops said.
“What did I do?” he demanded to know as he was taken into custody, according to arresting officers.
Rivera was charged with disorderly

[UnregisteredGoRandyGo]

A Nancy Pelosi puppet. If you think Uncle Timmy is going to win, they take a break next year and don't worry about the election.

Go Randy Go

[RandyOutsourcer]

A Nancy Pelosi puppet. If you think Uncle Timmy is going to win, they take a break next year and don't worry about the election.

Go Randy Go

Please explain to me why outsourcing is something Randy should be proud of? And he is proud of it; he's got the awards to show for it.

No more deflection, just explain why it's a good thing. Real easy.

[UnregisteredGoRandyGo]

He has companies in the USA and outside the Country it's call being an International Company.

Like all the other Major Corporations in the world. !!

TIm Bishop ran one thing, the Southampton College. !! And the end result? Fail !!!

Just like Bishop, a complete failure.

[Unregistered88]

2012: Time to outsource Randy!

[RandyOutsourcer]

He has companies in the USA and outside the Country it's call being an International Company.

Like all the other Major Corporations in the world. !!

TIm Bishop ran one thing, the Southampton College. !! And the end result? Fail !!!

Just like Bishop, a complete failure.

You still haven't explained what makes outsourcing a good thing. There's really no spin to the issue: he won an award called the "Outsourcing Award." This is what he does. Sends jobs from America to a third world country where he pay the same worker a fraction of what the American equivalent was.

Again, why is outsourcing American jobs a good thing for our country and for our fellow Americans? Just answer the question.

[kjiy7]

He has companies in the USA and outside the Country it's call being an International Company.

Like all the other Major Corporations in the world. !!

TIm Bishop ran one thing, the Southampton College. !! And the end result? Fail !!!

Just like Bishop, a complete failure.

We don't need another 2 years of Occupy Southampton.
Vote Bishop out now.

Republican business policies will be enacted, not the democrat job killing policies we have now

[RandyOutsourcer]

We don't need another 2 years of Occupy Southampton.
Vote Bishop out now.

Republican business policies will be enacted, not the democrat job killing policies we have now

It's ironic that you choose to use the term "job killing" in the same sentence as Democrats. Shouldn't you be more inclusive and add "Republican Outsourcers" to that sentence as well?

Again, please state why outsourcing is good for middle class Americans.

Thank you.

[Unregistered516]

It's ironic that you choose to use the term "job killing" in the same sentence as Democrats. Shouldn't you be more inclusive and add "Republican Outsourcers" to that sentence as well?

Again, please state why outsourcing is good for middle class Americans.

Thank you.

He can't and he won't.

[UnregisteredGoRandyGo]

So you are still hanging on to the word Outsourcing? Do you hate other International companies, or just Randy?

Do you hate the sky-high property taxes and the cost of LIPA which drive businesses off of LI?

Do you hate the fact that the Democrats in the Town of Brookhaven passed 3 million dollars worth of back-door taxes and siphoned money out of the reserve fund just so that Lesko could look good?

Do you hate the $787 Billion dollar Stimulus package, passed by the Democrats in DC, (including Bishop) that did not create one job but put our children's future into Hock?

Do you hate the Obama Affordable Health Care Bill, that no one read, and was passed by the Democrats, (include Bishop) that paves the way to Socialism?

Randy has created plenty of jobs right here in America in what is known as the Private Sector. Bishop has only created jobs for himself and his daughter in what is known as the Public Sector.

I would love to stay and chit-chat with you, but unfortunately, I have to go to work now. Have a nice day.

[Randy Outsourcer]

So you are still hanging on to the word Outsourcing? Do you hate other International companies, or just Randy?

Do you hate the sky-high property taxes and the cost of LIPA which drive businesses off of LI?

Do you hate the fact that the Democrats in the Town of Brookhaven passed 3 million dollars worth of back-door taxes and siphoned money out of the reserve fund just so that Lesko could look good?

Do you hate the $787 Billion dollar Stimulus package, passed by the Democrats in DC, (including Bishop) that did not create one job but put our children's future into Hock?

Do you hate the Obama Affordable Health Care Bill, that no one read, and was passed by the Democrats, (include Bishop) that paves the way to Socialism?

Randy has created plenty of jobs right here in America in what is known as the Private Sector. Bishop has only created jobs for himself and his daughter in what is known as the Public Sector.

I would love to stay and chit-chat with you, but unfortunately, I have to go to work now. Have a nice day.

Again, I will ask you for the last time to simply explain why Randy Altschuler's international outsourcing empire has been good for middle class Americans who want jobs. It's really just a simple question that deserves a simple answer.

You don't have to mention Obama or Pelosi or Bishop or Democrats or Socialism or Lesko or anything political. This isn't a political question, just one that I'd like some clarification on...

One last time: Why is Randy Altschuler's outsourcing model good for every day Americans, despite the fact that it's led to thousands of every day Americans losing their jobs (more lost than created)?

Please explain it to me like I'm a five-year-old. Because I cannot for the life of me figure out why it's good for America. Please enlighten me. Why is outsourcing good for America?

[Unregistered88]

Nice conversation you're having with yourself.

[kjiy7]

Go Randy
Ride the Republican wave in 2012

[RandyOutsourcer]

Go Randy
Ride the Republican wave in 2012

How is outsourcing good for middle class Americans? Randy personally helped companies send many thousands of jobs overseas while his fellow Americans back home suffered. Randy pioneered the model that many other companies used to do the same thing. How was this good for America?

Can you just answer this one simple question? How is outsourcing good for America?

Please, sir, just answer the question. Clearly you know something about the "benefits" of outsourcing that the rest of America doesn't. Please, explain to me and the public how Randy helped American by sending their jobs overseas?

Please...

[Pulse]

Are you really stupid? Or Bishop has nothing else to run on?
The Republican PArty does not support outsourcing, they will eliminate regulations and walls created by Democrat administrations that cripple business. Altschuler created a business, while working for himself.
Now , Altschuler will be working for the Suffolk County citizen, and FULLY support Republican policies.
Which include vote out OBama, keep Pelosi on the sideline, and send Bishop back to Southampton College, oops, no longer there.

[RandyOutsourcer]

Thank you GOP and Chamber of Commerce for defeating bills that would make it difficult for companies to offshore/outsource AMERICAN jobs!

I guess this is was "deregulation" means?

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/22871-republicans-support-outsourcing

If Pulse/kjiy7/GoRandyGo is right that Randy will fully support the GOP policies, then he'll probably continue to take jobs away from Americans and giving them to Indians.

Thanks Randy Boy!

[Pulse]

Are you really stupid? Or Bishop has nothing else to run on?
The Republican PArty does not support outsourcing, they will eliminate regulations and walls created by Democrat administrations that cripple business. Altschuler created a business, while working for himself, a successful business, which indicated his sharp mind and a way to look for new solutions to problems. He will bring that intelligence and problem solving ability to Congress.
Now , Altschuler will be working for the Suffolk County citizen, and FULLY support Republican policies.
Which include vote out OBama, keep Pelosi on the sideline, and send Bishop back to Southampton College, oops, no longer there.

If the ONLY argument against Altschuler is that he ran a successful business, Bishop is SUNK.

[Pulse]

As a Long Island voter, I do not consider a unique and personally advantageous business move made by a candidate to reflect his views on how he would represent LI voters.

Now that is a deflection from Bishop's record, which is terrible, he supported every Pelosi objective which has kept this economy anchored down.

Altschuler is a innovative businessman, and he brings that intelligence to the aid of Long Island .

Next you will tell me Altschuler will Outsource Long Island to Conneticut and leave NY State.

Deal with Long Island issues, and there is no comparison between the candidates.

[Pulse]

Randy's new job will be to provide government policy to benefit Long Island,
He has proven himself to be smart, innovative, and those skills will be useful as a LI Congressman.
Bishop has supported Obama and Pelosi, and we see what that has brought.

Time for new innovative thinking, college presidents belong protesting with OWS,
Retire Bishop,

Elect Altschuler

[Randy from New Jersey]

I'm sorry to break up this private debate you two have going on, but after all, this is about me. Shouldn't I be able to give my opinion?
I should have won last year. After all, I spread my money around to all the right places, but it still didn't work.
People just don't like me. That's why I stayed in my office the whole campaign except to do quick in and out photo ops.

[Unregistered516]

Shouldn't Randy be running in New Jersey?

[Randy from New Jersey]

Finally-someone got it right!

[rthj]

Shouldn't Randy be running in New Jersey?

Why would someone who lives in St James run for office in NJ?

[Outsourcethis]

Pulse got pwnd by Randy Outsourcer himself. Nice.

To the poster who is talking about St. Jame...Randy is originally from Jersey. He moved out here because he thought he'd run for office. Carpetbagger.

[Randy from New Jersey]

Just to set the record straight- it's really Head of the Harbor, but that makes me sound like the elitist I really am.
St. James sounds more middle class, and I can be one of the people!
Better for electoral purposes. If I fool them and win, then I can brag about where I really live!

[StJames]

He moved out here because he thought he'd run for office.

I didn't know you and Randy confided like that, because he told me he moved to St James and was asked to run for office.

[Randy from New Jersey]

After last night, I'll have to run as a Democrat to carry Brookhaven next year.
No prob- I'm more comfortable with the D's anyway!

[RandyOutsourcer]

Randy Boy lost his window. He was nothing more than an opportunist who thought he'd try to ride the anti-incumbent wave of 2010 into a federal government job so he could work from the inside to make it easier to outsource everything.

But the fever is over. People have woken up and realized that the Republican party is made up of people just like Randy. Self-serving, greedy, Gordon Gecko-worshipping "businessmen" who care nothing about the hardworking men and women in our nation's middle class.

Suffolk is blue, Randy. Go back to New Jersey, you Ivy League, outsourcing creep!

[UnregisteredGoRandyGo]

Your President is making trips to India to sell out what is left of America.

America is already owned by China.


Your little buzz word "outsourcing" is over-played already just like the
race-card. Can you get some new material. !! Thanks.

BTW: I don't shop Wal-Mart !

[Unregistered516]

Your President is making trips to India to sell out what is left of America.

America is already owned by China.


Your little buzz word "outsourcing" is over-played already just like the
race-card. Can you get some new material. !! Thanks.

BTW: I don't shop Wal-Mart !

Randy's an outsourcer, deal with it. And with high unemployment that doesn't sit well with a lot of people.

[Randy from New Jersey]

That doesn't even sit well with me!

[From Sri Lanka with love]

No one loves me any more-even the people I paid off!

[Big Ed]

I still love you (as long as you keep the cash flowing).

[Dim Bishop]

Time for him to go.

[RandyOutsourcer]

Time for him to go.

Maybe so, but no way in hell that representative spot is going to an unAmerican outsourcer who sent thousands of American jobs overseas.

Not happening.

[598yyy]

Maybe so, but no way in hell that representative spot is going to an unAmerican outsourcer who sent thousands of American jobs overseas.

Not happening.

Yup, And Ted Kennedy's former seat in the Senate, in deep blue MAssachusetts, would never go to a Republican

[Lloyd Bentsen]

I knew Ted Kennedy, and Randy's no Ted Kennedy.

Actually, now that I think about it, Outsourcers's politics are actually a lot like his!

[Randy from New Jersey]

Did you see the number Schaffer did on me?
And with a poll paid for by me, no less!!

[Ok, Ok]

I agree with you, but now you're just being a bully. You pull the wings off flies too?

[RandyOutsourcer]

Randy may have made a bunch of cash by outsourcing American jobs overseas, but with every action there is a reaction. This reaction is one by honest, hardworking Americans in Suffolk County. They don't want to be represented by a carpetbagging, anti-American worker outsourcer who would only push his globalist, job killing ideas if elected.

Keep swine like Randy Altschuler out of office.

[Randy from New Jersey]

I couldn't have said it better, and I'm Randy!

[Office Tigers]

Anyone interested in seeing how Randy made his fortune can watch the documentary "Office Tigers." It is currently streaming on Netflix.

It was released in 2006, probably long before Randy Outsourcer thought he'd be trying to get the very Americans he outsourced to vote him into office. In it, his remarkably egotistical business partner parades around the Indian offices of Office Tiger as he condescendingly talks down to his subordinate workforce. It's actually pretty hard to watch in a few places...definitely a cringe-worthy performance by these yahoos.

I don't know how long it will be on Netflix, but catch it now while you can so you can see these ex-banker hacks destroy American jobs for a quick buck!

[Justtobe Curious]

How is this going to effect his representation of Suffolk County?
He was representing his family then.
So you think he will sell American assets as a legislator to foreign countries?
I don't understand

[Randy from New Jersey]

Actually, I was planning to do that!

[JusttoCurious]

Actually, I was planning to do that!

Silly, nonsense post

[Office Tigers]

How is this going to effect his representation of Suffolk County?
He was representing his family then.
So you think he will sell American assets as a legislator to foreign countries?
I don't understand

It's easy to understand and you do. It's been explained to you multiple times in this thread alone.

Yes, Randy Outsourcer's past is prelude to how he would lead: the issues he would take up, the greed that will inevitably cloud his decision-making.

Let's not forget: he CHOSE to do what he did. He didn't have a family when he started Office Tiger. He wanted a lot of money for himself and he didn't care about who got hurt in the process. That's it.

If you want a man like that to lead you, if you truly believe that a greedy, outsourcing, anti-American worker millionaire politician is the right guy to put yours and your community's interests first, then by all means vote the greedy sombitch in. However, I think it's been proven - once in an election and twice in recent polling - that the majority of Long Islanders in this district don't want someone with Altschuler's pedigree in office. Period.

[JusttoCurious]

How is this going to effect his representation of Suffolk County?
He was representing his family then.
So you think he will sell American assets as a legislator to foreign countries?
I don't understand

Nah, his job will be to represent Suffolk County, and I expect him to do as good ajob providing for Suffolk as he did for his family. Glad he will be on our team!!

[Office Tigers]

Nah, his job will be to represent Suffolk County, and I expect him to do as good ajob providing for Suffolk as he did for his family. Glad he will be on our team!!

This post says more about you than you think. Your blind allegiance to party doctrine has made you support a millionaire outsourcer who made a fortune DESTROYING American jobs and lives. He destroyed the prosperity for thousands of Americans DIRECTLY and because his model was so popular amongst corporate greedheads, he is also responsible for the tens of thousands of American jobs that were lost to outsourcing.

He is a hypocritical person who would do anything for a buck. A man solely motivated by money and greed might fit in with the current crop of politicians but he will most certainly not be good for average, middle class Long Islanders.

Americans will never vote in a job destroying outsourcer who has ruined American lives.

[555rt]

You aren't serious , are you?
Ever hear of Jon Corzine?

Now talk about real issues, you know, ones that count.
What votes will each candidate be making, you know , what each party represents, because 1 single rep in Congress cannot change the world, but their vote will help their party get their agenda passed.
Now, those are issues.
Unless, you got nothing????

[Unregistered516]

but their vote will help their party get their agenda passed.


And the agenda is: destroy America.

[JusttoCurious]

And the agenda is: destroy America.

That, my friend, is the agenda of the ones in power right now. Liberalism, socialism, has been taught in our schools since the 1970's, children of OWS are the result, college grads with liberal arts degrees, 150k in loans, and the expectation that they are owed a job.
Europe is now feeling the pain of 60 years of socialism, their societies will crack as they can no longer afford the welfare states, but the people have grown up expecting it.

[Outsource Randy]

That, my friend, is the agenda of the ones in power right now. Liberalism, socialism, has been taught in our schools since the 1970's, children of OWS are the result, college grads with liberal arts degrees, 150k in loans, and the expectation that they are owed a job.
Europe is now feeling the pain of 60 years of socialism, their societies will crack as they can no longer afford the welfare states, but the people have grown up expecting it.

You, my friend, are a braindead sheep. Keep on following your corporate overlords as they tell you what to believe, how to vote, and when to look the other way as they pillage this country.

I thought you were smarter than this, but it's clear that you can't even define "socialism" or see that Obama is pretty much Bush Lite. No, keep on listening to your corporate handlers feed you your lines. You can't see the forest for the trees.

But let's get one thing straight: Randy "Globalist Outsourcer" Altschuler has done more to hurt working class Americans in this country and he's not even an elected official. Just think of the damage he could do to the middle class if he actually was able to win an election (not happening).

Merry Christmas. Wake up before it's too late.

Baaaaaa.

[Randy from New Jersey]

Start paying off a new Conservative Party Chairman.

Move back to New Jersey.

Rejoin the Green Party.

[32434tr]

That, my friend, is the agenda of the ones in power right now. Liberalism, socialism, has been taught in our schools since the 1970's, children of OWS are the result, college grads with liberal arts degrees, 150k in loans, and the expectation that they are owed a job.
Europe is now feeling the pain of 60 years of socialism, their societies will crack as they can no longer afford the welfare states, but the people have grown up expecting it.

You betcha!

[Randy from New Jersey]

Who do I send the bags of money to now?

[From Sri Lanka with love]

Better keep sending to Walsh; I hear he may have some big legal bills coming up.

[No love for Outsourcers]

Tim Bishop introduces bill to ban outsourcing of customer service call centers to foreign countries. Gee..who does that bring to mind?

[UnregisteredC]

People go into business for one reason, and one reason alone...to make money. They hire people to service the business and compete. That benefits everyone in the civil society. You end up with better goods and services at a lower cost.

Outsourcing occurs when companies can get the same work done at a cheaper price, hence netting a larger return on revenue.

Companies need to maximize revenue to survive in a competitive environment. That revenue is used to help them maintain their competitive position through hiring the right talent and investing in the growth of their business.

So, if you think outsourcing is unAmerican and evil, here's what happens when companies don't seek to remain competitive by lowering their costs...they get beat by other companies who can offer better goods and services cheaper. Then everyone working for that company loses their job. How does that make any sense?

The best thing about this situation is that people who lose their jobs can re-tool and re-invent themselves and move on. Yes, it can be a painful process, but it is reality. Opportunities open up, often in unexpected places and these people survive and often thrive in new roles.

You may not like to hear this or yearn for a mythical Utopian world where this doesn't happen, but economic facts are still FACTS.

[Pulse]

People go into business for one reason, and one reason alone...to make money. They hire people to service the business and compete. That benefits everyone in the civil society. You end up with better goods and services at a lower cost.

Outsourcing occurs when companies can get the same work done at a cheaper price, hence netting a larger return on revenue.

Companies need to maximize revenue to survive in a competitive environment. That revenue is used to help them maintain their competitive position through hiring the right talent and investing in the growth of their business.

So, if you think outsourcing is unAmerican and evil, here's what happens when companies don't seek to remain competitive by lowering their costs...they get beat by other companies who can offer better goods and services cheaper. Then everyone working for that company loses their job. How does that make any sense?

The best thing about this situation is that people who lose their jobs can re-tool and re-invent themselves and move on. Yes, it can be a painful process, but it is reality. Opportunities open up, often in unexpected places and these people survive and often thrive in new roles.

You may not like to hear this or yearn for a mythical Utopian world where this doesn't happen, but economic facts are still FACTS.

Thats what government subsidies are for, to keep these inefficient companies afloat, how else can the Democrats get votes.

[UnObserverb]

No one likes the idea of American jobs moving overseas. But in recent years, the U.S. has accepted the outsourcing of tens of thousands of jobs, in everything from technology support to Wall Street research. Many prominent corporate executives, politicians, and academics have argued that we have no choice, that with globalization it’s critical to tap the lower costs and unique skills of labor abroad to remain competitive. Samuel Palmisano, the chief executive of IBM (IBM), made this point last year when he hosted IBM’s investor conference in Bangalore, India, the first ever held outside the U.S. He pointed out that IBM now has 43,000 people working in India who are part of "a new kind of organization," one that’s designed not around a single country, "but on a truly planet-wide model."

Yet a critical point has been lost in the debate: The interests of U.S. corporations are often not the same as those of the country and its citizens. Hiring staff in India may help companies like IBM, Dell (DELL), Microsoft (MSFT), Accenture (ACN), and others lower their costs and boost their profits, but it hurts the workers who lose jobs and those who lose the prospect of jobs.

Economist Paul Samuelson, a Nobel Prize winner, wrote in a 2004 paper that the economic effect of outsourcing is similar to allowing mass immigration of workers willing to compete for service jobs at extremely low wages. They can drive down the income for huge swaths of the middle class, even if they benefit their employers. "Mainstream trade economists have insufficiently noticed the drastic change in mean U.S. incomes and in inequalities among different U.S. classes," he wrote.

There’s no question that the American people would like their government to take a stand against companies that send jobs overseas. A Zogby International poll found that 71% of Americans believe that outsourcing jobs overseas hurts the U.S. economy, and 62% say the U.S. government should tax or legislate to try to stop the job loss.

Yet virtually nothing has been done. "We need some creative solutions here," says Ron Hira, a public policy professor at the Rochester Institute of Technology who is now on leave at the progressive Economic Policy Institute. While some outsourcing opponents advocate taxes on companies that send jobs overseas, that’s controversial because it could end up handicapping U.S. companies and becoming counterproductive.

Still, there are other steps that government officials could take. Hira points out that decoupling health-care plans from the employer and making the plans more portable would be an important step, since U.S. companies now bear the costs of health care while rivals in countries with government-sponsored care don’t. U.S. visa programs could be modified too. He says that some of the most active users of visas for visiting workers are Indian outsourcing firms, which appear to be training workers in the U.S. and then sending them home to be more effective at taking U.S. jobs. The most important point perhaps is to reexamine the costs of letting American jobs go abroad. "The CEOs of international companies have been dominating the debate and the current situation serves their interests," Hira says.

[UnregisteredC]

UnObserverb, you make a good point about the affect of intrusive government intervention handicapping corporations, but you seem to be advocating for it in your post...maybe I'm misreading it?

The right approach, in my opinion, is to create the right type of competitive environment here in the US, to drive jobs here rather than overseas. History has proven that when governments reduce the tax burden, remove burdensome regulations, and clear the path for increased competition, then companies invest right here in the US.

I'm also not a fan of labeling groups, i.e. "the middle class." We need to think of Americans not classes. People lose their jobs daily and find new ones. Outsourcing only has a temporary impact to those affected by it. If the competitive environment here in the US was better, i.e. government got off our backs, there would be plenty of job opportunities to choose from and the market would do the rest.

What we need to avoid is creating barriers to business, i.e artificial disincentives to outsourcing. If the government does that, business will vote with their feet and move further out of the US.

[Randy from New Jersey]

I'm glad to see that my campaign staff is finally doing its work! Defending my outsourcing of American jobs by saying, sure it may hurt people but hey, it doesn't mean I'm a bad guy.
It just means I'm a rich guy and I can keep paying them to stay on top of this thread until election day.

[UnObserverb]

UnObserverb, you make a good point about the affect of intrusive government intervention handicapping corporations, but you seem to be advocating for it in your post...maybe I'm misreading it?

People lose their jobs daily and find new ones. Outsourcing only has a temporary impact to those affected by it. If the competitive environment here in the US was better, i.e. government got off our backs, there would be plenty of job opportunities to choose from and the market would do the rest.


Re-read the last paragraph:

Still, there are other steps that government officials could take. Hira points out that decoupling health-care plans from the employer and making the plans more portable would be an important step, since U.S. companies now bear the costs of health care while rivals in countries with government-sponsored care don’t. U.S. visa programs could be modified too. He says that some of the most active users of visas for visiting workers are Indian outsourcing firms, which appear to be training workers in the U.S. and then sending them home to be more effective at taking U.S. jobs. The most important point perhaps is to reexamine the costs of letting American jobs go abroad. "The CEOs of international companies have been dominating the debate and the current situation serves their interests," Hira says.

Also, that's a pretty cavalier attitude about people who lost their jobs. "People lose their jobs daily and find new ones." Really? Daily? Read the papers. There are a hell of a lot of long-term unemployed people out there.

And what do you mean specifically by if "government got off our backs"? What exactly would you take away?

[UnregisteredC]

UnObserverb, like your idea about de-coupling Healthcare, but flat out reject any thought towards Socialized Healthcare as the solution for the same reason in my prior posts. What we need is more providers/competition in the states. This is not the case today.

I oppose artificial restrictions on the market in the form of Visa restrictions, for the same reasons in my prior posts. If foreigners are being trained in the US, which they are, and being sent back, then restricting them will only make training happen in their own locales... doesn't solve anything.

Cavalier attitude...no, don't mean to make it come off that way and I do feel for people who are long term unemployed, but this is a problem the market easily solves when taxes and regulations are cut.

Government needs to create an environment that is friendly to business that stimulates investment, growth and hiring. Last year alone the Government issued over 87,000 pages of new regulations and that translates directly to high costs to business to meet them. The tax structure for Corporations also kills off business. Good example of that is the fact that corporations who earn money in other countries and pay taxes in those locales cannot transfer that capital back into the US without being taxed again... so, less money to invest in growing revenue and jobs here in the US. We are the only country in the world that does this.

Government is not the solution, and by its very nature, can never be the solution. Government is a necessary evil that needs to get out of the way of business.

Hope that helps...

[RandyOutsourcer]

All this obfuscation about the market and outsourcing and these corporate goons saying it's good ignores the obvious:

When jobs are outsourced to foreign countries, American workers are hurt. Period. They impact large scale layoffs have on the economy ripples throughout the country and Randy Altschuler could care less as he watches his own bottom line grow.

That's it. It's really quite simple.

If you support Americans losing their jobs, then vote for Randy Altschuler.

If you're a hard working, patriotic American who values what is left of a middle class life in America, keep this guy away from government. He'll only continue to stack the deck in favor of his rich friends.

Randy "Outsourcer" Altschuler has hurt America as a businessman. Imagine what he would do if elected.

The choice is yours.

[Unregistered Weir]

Oh that Diana! Working for this campaign too.

[dum dum]

They do not need to be located at a home base. They pick up and move,
just like Apple. Jobs wanted something, China was ready to roll it out without
government interference. America embraces his products and his stock to the detriment of our citizenry. The technolgy tsunami rolls and eliminates jobs permanently. Eventually 50% will land some place else, but in most cases they are not better off. The other are gone for ever. Tough luck Charlie!

[UnObserverb]

UnObserverb, like your idea about de-coupling Healthcare, but flat out reject any thought towards Socialized Healthcare as the solution for the same reason in my prior posts. What we need is more providers/competition in the states. This is not the case today.

I oppose artificial restrictions on the market in the form of Visa restrictions, for the same reasons in my prior posts. If foreigners are being trained in the US, which they are, and being sent back, then restricting them will only make training happen in their own locales... doesn't solve anything.

Cavalier attitude...no, don't mean to make it come off that way and I do feel for people who are long term unemployed, but this is a problem the market easily solves when taxes and regulations are cut.

Government needs to create an environment that is friendly to business that stimulates investment, growth and hiring. Last year alone the Government issued over 87,000 pages of new regulations and that translates directly to high costs to business to meet them. The tax structure for Corporations also kills off business. Good example of that is the fact that corporations who earn money in other countries and pay taxes in those locales cannot transfer that capital back into the US without being taxed again... so, less money to invest in growing revenue and jobs here in the US. We are the only country in the world that does this.

Government is not the solution, and by its very nature, can never be the solution. Government is a necessary evil that needs to get out of the way of business.

Hope that helps...

I think Randy should not be rewarded for hurting the American worker.

I also don't share your views about government. Yes, I've done my share of SOX reporting and it's a pain. There are probably too many regs. But government is not evil. The space program (which is where our wireless technology comes from), the internet (from DARPA), the Erie Canal, the Interstate Highway system, the Hoover Dam, the Tennessee Valley Authority, all contributed MIGHTILY to growing the economy.

[Pulse]

. Imagine what he would do if elected.

The choice is yours.

If elected, he will support Conservative principles, shrink the size of government, and make it possible for American business to survive in America. He knows firsthand that it can't in many cases.
The choice is yours, a Nancy Pelosi Socialist Democrat college president, or a former innovative American businessman who knows the stranglehold current regulations and taxes have on American business, and will work to unshackle the force of American business and the American worker!

[UnObserverb]

If elected, he will support Conservative principles, shrink the size of government, and make it possible for American business to survive in America. He knows firsthand that it can't in many cases.
The choice is yours, a Nancy Pelosi Socialist Democrat college president, or a former innovative American businessman who knows the stranglehold current regulations and taxes have on American business, and will work to unshackle the force of American business and the American worker!

You can't "unshackle the force of the American worker" by sending him/her to the unemployment line, which is what Randy has done.

[Pulse]

If elected, he will support Conservative principles, shrink the size of government, and make it possible for American business to survive in America. He knows firsthand that it can't in many cases.
The choice is yours, a Nancy Pelosi Socialist Democrat college president, or a former innovative American businessman who knows the stranglehold current regulations and taxes have on American business, and will work to unshackle the force of American business and the American worker!

You are living in the past. What will he do as a politician.

[RandyOutsourcer]

Randy Outsourcer: Corporate Greedhead who will continue to sacrifice American jobs and stability for the almighty dollar. He's been doing it since he started Office Tiger.

[UnregisteredDumpBishop]

Under Bishops watch, Southhampton college went belly-up. Same thing he has done to America under his watch.

He recently went to check on how much his pension will be once he retires from Congress.

I see where his priorities are - and hunny, it ain't you !! LOL

VoteRandy

[People First]

When it comes to this issue, it dosen't matter what party you belong to. If you own or owned a business which outsourced American Jobs than you have no right to represent the American Worker. Randy made millions while right here on Long Island people have lost not only their lively hoods, but homes and families. Outsource Randy from representing the publics interests, he only cares about his own pockets.

[ered334]

When it comes to this issue, it dosen't matter what party you belong to. If you own or owned a business which outsourced American Jobs than you have no right to represent the American Worker. Randy made millions while right here on Long Island people have lost not only their lively hoods, but homes and families. Outsource Randy from representing the publics interests, he only cares about his own pockets.

Exactly the opposite. Your approach sounds like banning business from making money, companies would go out of business if they did not change to the world economy. Randy knows this and will help American business suceed here in this country, he knows the restrictions our own government places upon business.
Your approach would be to make it illegal to outsource, the wrong message. Make the environment here one where companies would not have to.

[People First]

No one wants to make it illegal to make money, that is the American Way. Your answer is to lower the wages and working conditions for the American Worker to that of 3rd. world countries. Or ignor enviormental issues like China, India, etc. Let me ask you, when was the last time you called a large company and had someone who actually spoke good english and was from this country. The real reason we outsource, all American Corporate Greed.

[Pulse]

No one wants to make it illegal to make money, that is the American Way. Your answer is to lower the wages and working conditions for the American Worker to that of 3rd. world countries. Or ignor enviormental issues like China, India, etc. Let me ask you, when was the last time you called a large company and had someone who actually spoke good english and was from this country. The real reason we outsource, all American Corporate Greed.

Capitalism. We can make it illegal for business to outsource, or we can make it attractive for business to keep operations here. But you have to start with GE, their company president is in charge of Obamas jobs program and he just moved HQ from a major division overseas, China I believe. So tell Obama to dump GE as a corporate donor, and get the president of the company off of his "job committees"

[RandyOutsourcer]

Exactly the opposite. Your approach sounds like banning business from making money, companies would go out of business if they did not change to the world economy. Randy knows this and will help American business suceed here in this country, he knows the restrictions our own government places upon business.
Your approach would be to make it illegal to outsource, the wrong message. Make the environment here one where companies would not have to.

Look, the fact is that it is perfectly legal to outsource all your jobs while retaining a business address in America to benefit from our laws and infrastructure. You can then shelter all your money in Caribbean accounts to avoid corporate taxes. You can devote your entire life to making money hand over fist without a care for your fellow Americans. No one is arguing that this should be illegal.

Here's the point though: just because it's legal and you are allowed to do it, doesn't make it right. Just like we all have freedom of speech and can say whatever we want. Does that make saying whatever you want to always right? Of course not. Does that mean the First Amendment should be repealed because despicable people have hid under its aegis while spouting some of the most vile hate on the planet? Of course not.

There's a difference between legal and moral in many instances. And that's where Randy Outsourcer comes in. He CHOSE to make his money by hurting Americans. It was his choice to make and he benefitted personally from this. That's legal to do in America.

However, now he wants the very people he hurt to elect him into office and my fellow Americans have to make a choice also: is an outsourcer who spent his entire career letting greed guide him into make decisions that hurt honest, hardworking Americans the kind of man you want to elect to make laws and regulations in this country?

It comes down to this: Randy made his millions legally, but it wasnt right what he did. That's it.

Randy Outsourcer hurts America.

[UnregisteredDumpBishop]

Tim Bishop became wealthy on the backs of the taxpayers, while Randy the Job Creator Atlschuler created his wealth in the private sector.

The one who is hurting America is Tim, I support Socialism, Bishop.

[Randy Outsourcer]

Tim Bishop became wealthy on the backs of the taxpayers, while Randy the Job Creator Atlschuler created his wealth in the private sector.

The one who is hurting America is Tim, I support Socialism, Bishop.

No, socialism has nothing to do with it.

Fact is, Randy created his wealth by pioneering the model that shipped thousands and thousands of American jobs overseas...never to come back. He did this for personal gain. That's it.

[Gronk]

11,000 to be exact!

[Randy Outsourcer]

11,000 to be exact!

Those are the jobs that he had a direct hand in destroying. Bear in mind that he pioneered the model that other companies used as well. Some economists estimate that over 1,000,000 American jobs have been lost to outsourcing in the last decade.

Thanks so much for destroying the American economy Randy! Unlike your claims that Bishop's "socialism" did it, it is really black and white: it's your fault!

How's the mansion and luxury cars? You greedy, anti-middle class, job destroying outsourcer!

[Pulse]

Those are the jobs that he had a direct hand in destroying. Bear in mind that he pioneered the model that other companies used as well. Some economists estimate that over 1,000,000 American jobs have been lost to outsourcing in the last decade.

Thanks so much for destroying the American economy Randy! Unlike your claims that Bishop's "socialism" did it, it is really black and white: it's your fault!

How's the mansion and luxury cars? You greedy, anti-middle class, job destroying outsourcer!

You are correct. Capitalism is evil. It should illegal to change your business model, it should be a crime. Randy should be in jail, all jobs should be unionized and the minimum wage should be $15 an hour. and that is that!

[Randy Outsourcer]

You are correct. Capitalism is evil. It should illegal to change your business model, it should be a crime. Randy should be in jail, all jobs should be unionized and the minimum wage should be $15 an hour. and that is that!

Where in my previous posts have I said "capitalism is evil" or did I mention unions and minimum wage?

Typical. Just stick with exactly what I've written and we can debate the issue. If you can't hang with that, don't bother replying.

But you can't hang: it's absolutely impossible to ignore the FACTS here. Randy Outsourcer has been directly and indirectly responsible for the loss of over 1,000,000 American jobs over the last decade.

Randy Altschuler is a proven job killer. Unless, of course, you live in Sri Lanka or India, in which case, he's helped you tremendously. Too bad he couldn't do that for his fellow Americans.

[Pulse]

Where in my previous posts have I said "capitalism is evil" or did I mention unions and minimum wage?

Typical. Just stick with exactly what I've written and we can debate the issue. If you can't hang with that, don't bother replying.

But you can't hang: it's absolutely impossible to ignore the FACTS here. Randy Outsourcer has been directly and indirectly responsible for the loss of over 1,000,000 American jobs over the last decade.

Randy Altschuler is a proven job killer. Unless, of course, you live in Sri Lanka or India, in which case, he's helped you tremendously. Too bad he couldn't do that for his fellow Americans.

Your assault upon Altschuler is an assault on the american business model. Why are jobs going overseas is the intelligent question to ask. You actually think this never would have occurred without Altschuler?
You are essentially attacking the American business model. Where the intelligent person would look to why this occurred, instead of throwing mud, they would think of solutions. And that is where Altschuler is perfectly positioned, he knows why business has adopted this approach, and what needs to be done to make America the place to keep these jobs here,
Instead of ostracizing those who are creative.

[Randy Outsourcer]

Your assault upon Altschuler is an assault on the american business model. Why are jobs going overseas is the intelligent question to ask. You actually think this never would have occurred without Altschuler?
You are essentially attacking the American business model. Where the intelligent person would look to why this occurred, instead of throwing mud, they would think of solutions. And that is where Altschuler is perfectly positioned, he knows why business has adopted this approach, and what needs to be done to make America the place to keep these jobs here,
Instead of ostracizing those who are creative.

No. Wrong again.

Business in this country used to be led by men who put in time and hard work to build a business from the ground up. They provided the capital to start operations and then hired workers to help them meet their goals. They expanded and hired more workers. When certain benchmarks were met, they expanded or rewarded their American workers in the form of generous benefits, bonuses, and/or retirement options. There was a an understanding that the owners wouldn't have been so successful without the help of their American labor. They were happy to make 40 times what their lowest paid worker made and lived a fine life. The workers also did well. They worked hard, made money for the owners, and were compensated fairly. They all enjoyed the benefits of living in a country with a strong government that made sure roads were paved and utilities worked so that business could thrive, and they didn't mind paying for it.

This is American capitalistic model that worked and made more American more prosperous than ever before. This is the model that expanded the middle class and brought stability to our country in post-WW II America.

Then greedy pigs like Altschuler came along and decided that a salary "only" 40x the lowest paid worker (plus ownership of the company) wasn't enough. So what did they do? Randy helped them move their operations to Third World countries so they could make more money. They laid off their "overpaid" American workforce and they hid their assets in offshore accounts.

That is not the economic system this country was built on. So I applaud American capitalism, absolutely, but not Randy Altschuler's scorched earth vision of it.

Is that clear? You ask "why were jobs shipped overseas?" I just told you: GREED. That's the answer. It's been answered before on here, but you just seem to be a glutton for punishment.

GREED. That's the answer. Randy knows what I'm talking about. Oink oink!

[Sri Lanka Guy]

No. Wrong again.

Business in this country used to be led by men who put in time and hard work to build a business from the ground up. They provided the capital to start operations and then hired workers to help them meet their goals. They expanded and hired more workers. When certain benchmarks were met, they expanded or rewarded their American workers in the form of generous benefits, bonuses, and/or retirement options. There was a an understanding that the owners wouldn't have been so successful without the help of their American labor. They were happy to make 40 times what their lowest paid worker made and lived a fine life. The workers also did well. They worked hard, made money for the owners, and were compensated fairly. They all enjoyed the benefits of living in a country with a strong government that made sure roads were paved and utilities worked so that business could thrive, and they didn't mind paying for it.

This is American capitalistic model that worked and made more American more prosperous than ever before. This is the model that expanded the middle class and brought stability to our country in post-WW II America.

Then greedy pigs like Altschuler came along and decided that a salary "only" 40x the lowest paid worker (plus ownership of the company) wasn't enough. So what did they do? Randy helped them move their operations to Third World countries so they could make more money. They laid off their "overpaid" American workforce and they hid their assets in offshore accounts.

That is not the economic system this country was built on. So I applaud American capitalism, absolutely, but not Randy Altschuler's scorched earth vision of it.

Is that clear? You ask "why were jobs shipped overseas?" I just told you: GREED. That's the answer. It's been answered before on here, but you just seem to be a glutton for punishment.

GREED. That's the answer. Randy knows what I'm talking about. Oink oink!

This is a great point. And it should be noted that corporate taxes only decreased since the post-WWII period. They avereages around 52% throughout the fifties, the time most people associate with an expanding middle class. Now they are around 35%. With so many loopholes, many companies pay much less. So it isn't taxes that is sending companies overseas. It's profits and greed.

[Pulse]

No. Wrong again.

Business in this country used to be led by men who put in time and hard work to build a business from the ground up. They provided the capital to start operations and then hired workers to help them meet their goals. They expanded and hired more workers. When certain benchmarks were met, they expanded or rewarded their American workers in the form of generous benefits, bonuses, and/or retirement options. There was a an understanding that the owners wouldn't have been so successful without the help of their American labor. They were happy to make 40 times what their lowest paid worker made and lived a fine life. The workers also did well. They worked hard, made money for the owners, and were compensated fairly. They all enjoyed the benefits of living in a country with a strong government that made sure roads were paved and utilities worked so that business could thrive, and they didn't mind paying for it.

This is American capitalistic model that worked and made more American more prosperous than ever before. This is the model that expanded the middle class and brought stability to our country in post-WW II America.

Then greedy pigs like Altschuler came along and decided that a salary "only" 40x the lowest paid worker (plus ownership of the company) wasn't enough. So what did they do? Randy helped them move their operations to Third World countries so they could make more money. They laid off their "overpaid" American workforce and they hid their assets in offshore accounts.

That is not the economic system this country was built on. So I applaud American capitalism, absolutely, but not Randy Altschuler's scorched earth vision of it.

Is that clear? You ask "why were jobs shipped overseas?" I just told you: GREED. That's the answer. It's been answered before on here, but you just seem to be a glutton for punishment.

GREED. That's the answer. Randy knows what I'm talking about. Oink oink!

That is such a invalid argument. Obamas jobs chief is head of GE, they just relocated some division HQ and production sites in China. How can you vote for Obama, putting people like that in charge of his jobs program?
The real answer, my little communist friend, is that the world has changed, it is a global economy, get with the program or all the jobs will dry up. Figure out how to fix it, or just write laws preventing it. Which seems to be your answer, I would would prefer a dynamic thinker than opposed to a stodgy old college professor.

[Randy Outsourcer]

That is such a invalid argument. Obamas jobs chief is head of GE, they just relocated some division HQ and production sites in China. How can you vote for Obama, putting people like that in charge of his jobs program?
The real answer, my little communist friend, is that the world has changed, it is a global economy, get with the program or all the jobs will dry up. Figure out how to fix it, or just write laws preventing it. Which seems to be your answer, I would would prefer a dynamic thinker than opposed to a stodgy old college professor.

Nope. You did it again. Stick with the facts.

Randy is responsible for destroying 1,000,000 American jobs.

Randy wants those very Americans to now vote him into office so he can collect government healthcare and a pension.

People need to decide if that's right or not. Not legal or illegal, but right and wrong. This is a moral decision.

You can continue to name call and try to shout me down with insults and buzzwords; you can try to deflect by making this about Obama and China. But facts are facts and you are choosing to ignore them.

Now you can't say you haven't been told.

If you want to vote for Randy Outsourcer because you think he is a good man whose business history makes him the ideal man to lead you, then go ahead. If you truly believe that "dynamic thinking" means firing employees and doing it in the Third World for less, then by all means. That's obviously the bar you have set for yourself and your leads. I won't try to change your opinion.

However, I think Randy is a greedy pig who hurt the very Americans I swore to protect when I served. He is NOT the man I would want to lead me. A truly dynamic thinker would be one who is able to double his profits AND make the lives of his employees in AMERICA better. Randy doesn't fit that bill.

I will leave you with this: you say the world has changed. You should ask yourself who changed it.

With that, I know who you'll be voting for and you know who I'll be voting for. I will continue to broadcast my feelings about Randy Outsourcer because that is my right as an American. You can continue to parrot back whatever you heard on the radio or TV today. That's fine too.

God Bless the USA!

[TooMuchLogic]

Nope. You did it again. Stick with the facts.
Randy is responsible for destroying 1,000,000 American jobs.

This is a moral decision.

You can continue to name call and try to shout me down with insults and buzzwords; you can try to deflect by making this about Obama and China. But facts are facts and you are choosing to ignore them.

God Bless the USA!

1,000,000 jobs? Moral decision.
If you want to talk about 1 million jobs, look at GE and Obama. Your morality changes according to the D or R by their name. Someone wrote an intelligent post and you reply with this , you couldn't respond to a intelligent discussion, your answer is to make "outsourcing" illegal.

That is such a invalid argument. Obamas jobs chief is head of GE, they just relocated some division HQ and production sites in China. How can you vote for Obama, putting people like that in charge of his jobs program?
The real answer, my little communist friend, is that the world has changed, it is a global economy, get with the program or all the jobs will dry up. Figure out how to fix it, or just write laws preventing it. Which seems to be your answer, I would would prefer a dynamic thinker than opposed to a stodgy old college professor.

[2012]

All of this stuff about "outsourcing" is totally irrelevant but par for the course in politics. China, India and the rest of the emerging capitalist countries represent 3 billion people.

Bashing "outsourcing" is just pretending they don't exist and leading gullible people into a fool's paradise. Tim Bishop claims that he can protect uncompetitive jobs in sunset industries. If you believe that, there's a bridge in Brooklyn he could sell you as well.

The only way to keep a job is do do it better than anyone else. Anybody who claims otherwise is blowing sunshine where sun doesn't shine.

[Pulse]

All of this stuff about "outsourcing" is totally irrelevant but par for the course in politics. China, India and the rest of the emerging capitalist countries represent 3 billion people.

Bashing "outsourcing" is just pretending they don't exist and leading gullible people into a fool's paradise. Tim Bishop claims that he can protect uncompetitive jobs in sunset industries. If you believe that, there's a bridge in Brooklyn he could sell you as well.

The only way to keep a job is do do it better than anyone else. Anybody who claims otherwise is blowing sunshine where sun doesn't shine.
Exactly
It is someone who spends 150k on a liberal arts degree and then complains about the inability to get a job to pay off their loans.
Life isn't fair. They were taught all through school , life is fair. adaptability, change is what is required in this world today.

[Randy Outsourcer]

You guys are doing it again. You've been conditioned to herd together to protect the pro-company head paradigm. It's ok, I know it's hard to think for yourself.

You talk about liberal arts degrees, GE, global market, Obama, communism, and now you're using multiple anonymous names to try to combat the truth. I understand, it's what you've been raised on, young 'em.

But let me school you about the golden age of American capitalism. It wasn't always like this. There were "haves" and "have nots", sure. There always will be. But the industrialists and company heads actually had a sense of responsibility to the common good. They recognized that their wealth wasn't created alone. They reaped the rewards of their risk taking and investment of capital but then let that wealth also trickle down. This was the only time in American history that that credo of Reagan really worked. Not when he talked about it, but 20 years before.

Now it's all about greed and Gekko and maximizing profits and getting "lean" and all these other abstract terms that devalue the people who got them there in the first place. This is a problem. It's not the capitalism that put this country on top, that's for sure. It's actually killing us. And Randy Boy is part of the problem.

Stick with one name - Pulse - and stick with actual historical facts, and stay on topic and we're good. Try any of this Fox News, deflection, buzzword nonsense again and you'll be exposed for the braindead sheep you are.

Here's a concrete question for you: how has outsourcing helped the middle class in this country? Please provide factual, non-partisan evidence as support.

You're ball, my friend.

[TooMuchLogic]

Outsourcing was not formally identified as a business strategy until 1989 (Mullin, 1996). However, most organizations were not totally self-sufficient; they outsourced those functions for which they had no competency internally. Publishers, for example, have often purchased composition, printing, and fulfillment services. The use of external suppliers for these essential but ancillary services might be termed the baseline stage in the evolution of outsourcing. Outsourcing support services is the next stage. In the 1990s, as organizations began to focus more on cost-saving measures, they started to outsource those functions necessary to run a company but not related specifically to the core business. Managers contracted with emerging service companies to deliver accounting, human resources, data processing, internal mail distribution, security, plant maintenance, and the like as a matter of “good housekeeping”. Outsourcing components to affect cost savings in key functions is yet another stage as managers seek to improve their finances.
Strategic partnerships
The current stage in the evolution of outsourcing is the development of strategic partnerships. Until recently it had been axiomatic that no organization would outsource core competencies, those functions that give the company a strategic advantage or make it unique. Often a core competency is also defined as any function that gets close to customers. In the 1990s, outsourcing some core functions may be good strategy, not anathema. For example, some organizations outsource customer service, precisely because it is so important.
Eastman Kodak’s decision to outsource the information technology systems that undergird its business was considered revolutionary in 1989, but it was actually the result of rethinking what their business was about. They were quickly followed by dozens of major corporations whose managers had determined it was not necessary to own the technology to get access to information they needed. The focus today is less on ownership and more on developing strategic partnerships to bring about enhanced results. Consequently, organizations are likely to select outsourcing more on the basis of who can deliver more effective results for a specific function than on whether the function is core or commodity.
What is outsourcing
Outsourcing can be defined as “the strategic use of outside resources to perform activities traditionally handled by internal staff and resources”. Sometimes known also as “facilities management”, outsourcing is a strategy by which an organization contracts out major functions to specialized and efficient service providers, who become valued business partners. Companies have always hired contractors for particular types of work, or to level-off peaks and troughs in their workload, and have formed long-term relationships with firms whose capabilities complement or supplement their own. However, the difference between simply supplementing resources by “subcontracting” and actual outsourcing, is that the latter involves substantial restructuring of particular business activities including, often, the transfer of staff from a host company to a specialist, usually smaller, company with the required core competencies.
Why do companies outsource
Here are some common reasons:
• Reduce and control operating costs
• Improve host company focus
• Gain access to world-class capabilities
• Free internal resources for other purposes
• A function is time-consuming to manage or is out of control
• Insufficient resources are available internally
• Share risks with a partner company

[2012]

Lets's go back to a world before outsourcing....

Everything was made locally and trade was forbidden. Foreign lands were unknown.

Those days were called the Middle Ages.

Everything from horeseshoes to armor to food was made within a few miles of the village. Nobody moved. There we few scary foreigners.

But does anybody really want to go back in time?

The IPad is better than the univac. A 2012 Ford is much, much better than a 1972 Ford, and a lot of that improvement is due to the pressure to compete on a world market. If there were no competition, there would be no robots to assemble cars and oil would flow as freely from domestic crankcases as it did in the 1970's.

Getting worked up about globalization is both pointless and counterproductive. We need to outcompete the rest of the world, not pretend it doesn't exist.

[UnObserverb]

This is a bad year to run as a 1 percenter.

[Randy Outsourcer]

Lets's go back to a world before outsourcing....

Everything was made locally and trade was forbidden. Foreign lands were unknown.

Those days were called the Middle Ages.

Everything from horeseshoes to armor to food was made within a few miles of the village. Nobody moved. There we few scary foreigners.

But does anybody really want to go back in time?

The IPad is better than the univac. A 2012 Ford is much, much better than a 1972 Ford, and a lot of that improvement is due to the pressure to compete on a world market. If there were no competition, there would be no robots to assemble cars and oil would flow as freely from domestic crankcases as it did in the 1970's.

Getting worked up about globalization is both pointless and counterproductive. We need to outcompete the rest of the world, not pretend it doesn't exist.

Wow. You must have learned argumentative skills at Bedrock University. What pains me is that I can tell you actually really tried to present a valid, cogent argument. Poor little guy.

In spite of the glaring leaps in logic that you present, I will say only this:

Voters will choose who they want: a man who killed 1,000,000 jobs so he could waterski behind his yacht...or a stodgy old college professor.

[Pulse]

This is a bad year to run as a 1 percenter.

You mean Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi, Tim Bishop. Democrat politicians hide the fact very well theyare the 1% also. I think it will be a bad year to run on tax increases, see 2010. Occupy Wall Street , say, sort of fizzled, and got themselves arrested. Not many Tea Partiers got arrested

[Randy Outsourcer]

You mean Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi, Tim Bishop. Democrat politicians hide the fact very well theyare the 1% also. I think it will be a bad year to run on tax increases, see 2010. Occupy Wall Street , say, sort of fizzled, and got themselves arrested. Not many Tea Partiers got arrested

FACT: Under Obama, taxes are at their lowest since the presidency of Harry Truman.

Sorry guys, your arguments hit a brick wall when confronted with facts.

RANDY OUTSOURCER is a GREEDY PIG who DESTROYED AMERICAN LIVELIHOODS!

[UnObserverb]

You mean Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi, Tim Bishop. Democrat politicians hide the fact very well theyare the 1% also. I think it will be a bad year to run on tax increases, see 2010. Occupy Wall Street , say, sort of fizzled, and got themselves arrested. Not many Tea Partiers got arrested

Read what I wrote. None of those people are RUNNING AS a 1 percenter. And who increased your taxes, by the way? None of the people you listed.

[Pulse]

Read what I wrote. None of those people are RUNNING AS a 1 percenter. And who increased your taxes, by the way? None of the people you listed.

When the Bush tax cuts expire, Obama

Who runs as a 1 percenter?

[2012]

I don't see the issue as 1%ers but 1.7%ers. The entire U.S. economy grew by 1.7% last year, slower than the rate of population growth.

Even the fourth quarter number, when adjusted for inventory buildup, was much lower than we need to sustain our growing population, let alone return to prosperity.

Bishop is deeply invested in this slow-growth economy. Much of his donor base consists of government unions and contractors who demand more and more tax dollars. His base doesn't need economic growth, they are happy with stagnation as long as long as they can tax and spend their way to raises.

[UnObserverb]

When the Bush tax cuts expire, Obama

Who runs as a 1 percenter?

Romney and Randy.

[Pulse]

Romney and Randy.

Only in your tiny little universe.
Romneys father worked his way the old fashioned American way,
with hard work,
sent his son to college,
where he succeeded with double majors, law and business at Harvard,
through hard work,
If you can get there with hard work, you deserve it
Altschuler got there with innovation adapting to a global economy
Bright minds and hard work,
Not bad examples for Americans to emulate,

or should we be given things by our government instead?

[UnObserverb]

Financial engineering. Often costing people their jobs. One percenters.

[Pulse]

Financial engineering. Often costing people their jobs. One percenters.

It is America, it is our future. Financial engineering created Staples.

Or, if you choose , create tariffs, revoke NAFTA

[UnObserverb]

It is America, it is our future. Financial engineering created Staples.

Or, if you choose , create tariffs, revoke NAFTA

A lot of people don't like NAFTA.

Private equity guys, both. One percenters.

[Randy Outsourcer]

Only in your tiny little universe.
Romneys father worked his way the old fashioned American way,
with hard work,
sent his son to college,
where he succeeded with double majors, law and business at Harvard,
through hard work,
If you can get there with hard work, you deserve it
Altschuler got there with innovation adapting to a global economy
Bright minds and hard work,
Not bad examples for Americans to emulate,

or should we be given things by our government instead?

First of all, Romney grew up with advantages 99% of Americans do not have. Having an Ivy League education paid for and given the resources wealthy families can afford for their children should have all but ensured that Romney would do well in school. Show me a kid whose parents never emphasized education, had to pay his way through Harvard by working long hours in addition to studying, and then amassed advanced degrees while living in squalor and I'll show you a harder worker than Romney. And probably someone more in touch with the educational experiences of most Americans.

But that's neither here nor there: you say that Randy Outsourcer showed innovation and hard work. I disagree. Giving money to someone willing to work for less isn't innovation, it's a no brainer if you haven't any thought about the impact this transaction will have on a larger scale. That isn't bright thinking to me. It's narrow minded and driven by a single desire: greed.

Randy Boy is a Greedpig.

We can keep going like this, it's up to you. You haven't a leg to stand on with this. It's right vs. wrong. People will decide.

[UnregisteredC]

When I read the posts here from those who are against outsourcing, like the ones from UnObserverb, there appears to be a few major arguments from the Left that are worth pointing out...

1. There is an implied moral imperative for business owners to "do the right thing." I.e. earn less profit and invest less in making the business more competitive to employ more people here in the US

2. There is a reliance on increased Governmental involvement as the answer to the perceived problem with outsourcing, involving unnatural market restrictions to make this practice illegal at worst or very difficult at best

3. An understanding that lifetime employment at a job, even if it is not practically sustained in a competitive market is paramount.

These ideas belie a complete lack of understanding of the realities of how a free market works, which is the underlying problem with all forms of Utopian Statism in general.

I agree that creating jobs here in the US is of critical importance.

If you follow the arguments above you end up with a "moral standard" that has no bearing on economic reality or human behavior. So, government gets heavily involved, forces companies to do what is unnatural and companies end up either going out of business (ie. everyone loses their job) or they move to more favorable business environments, like those outside the US (ie. more people in the US lose their jobs). In these cases, everyone loses, not just a few folks who lose their jobs.

The only solution is to understand fully how the profit motive dictates economic behavior as a reality and stop trying to impose a Utopian ideal for how you think people "should" behave and create an environment here in the US that favors business investment. If we do this, more people will be working and we will lose far fewer jobs to foreign competitors. We will also have better products and services available here in the US that can directly compete and win.

Why this so difficult to understand, I just don't know...

[Randy Outsourcer]

When I read the posts here from those who are against outsourcing, like the ones from UnObserverb, there appears to be a few major arguments from the Left that are worth pointing out...

1. There is an implied moral imperative for business owners to "do the right thing." I.e. earn less profit and invest less in making the business more competitive to employ more people here in the US

2. There is a reliance on increased Governmental involvement as the answer to the perceived problem with outsourcing, involving unnatural market restrictions to make this practice illegal at worst or very difficult at best

3. An understanding that lifetime employment at a job, even if it is not practically sustained in a competitive market is paramount.

These ideas belie a complete lack of understanding of the realities of how a free market works, which is the underlying problem with all forms of Utopian Statism in general.

I agree that creating jobs here in the US is of critical importance.

If you follow the arguments above you end up with a "moral standard" that has no bearing on economic reality or human behavior. So, government gets heavily involved, forces companies to do what is unnatural and companies end up either going out of business (ie. everyone loses their job) or they move to more favorable business environments, like those outside the US (ie. more people in the US lose their jobs). In these cases, everyone loses, not just a few folks who lose their jobs.

The only solution is to understand fully how the profit motive dictates economic behavior as a reality and stop trying to impose a Utopian ideal for how you think people "should" behave and create an environment here in the US that favors business investment. If we do this, more people will be working and we will lose far fewer jobs to foreign competitors. We will also have better products and services available here in the US that can directly compete and win.

Why this so difficult to understand, I just don't know...

Nice try. Nowhere on here has anyone advocated for or even implied that outsourcing should be illegal. And nowhere on here has anyone advocated for or even implied that government involvement to restrict the market is necessary. Why is this so difficult to understand? I just don't know. I mean, it's in black and white all over this thread. I guess some people don't have the time to read.

But you are correct in your statement about morality. I believe that greed is primary motivator when companies decide to fire their stateside employees and pay Third Worlders pennies-on-the-dollar to do the same job for free. I will say this again and for the last time (hopefully): it is legal to do. That doesn't make it the right thing to do.

It's a philosophical question of values, not an economic argument. I understand someone's desire to make money regardless of the negative impact that has on human beings. It's easy to remove humans from the equation when we're talking about economics and money. It's easy to talk about growth when we're ignoring the side effects. Nothing is for free.

I value human beings and American livelihoods. I believe that companies do have a moral obligation to do the right thing by the very workers who made their business a success. Business used to run like that in the states. Globalization may have changed the playing field, but many executives have chosen to not play that game and have seen continued success.

Listen to me carefully: just because you are allowed to do something doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do.

Voters will decide if electing a man who made his millions by destroying American jobs is the kind of man they want to lead. Because, news flash, governing is about people...not always profits. Randy has proven he can turn a profit...but at the expense of people.

I know where you stand on this values issue. And you know where I stand.

Why is this so difficult to understand? I just don't know.

[Unregisterednbama]

When I read the posts here from those who are against outsourcing, like the ones from UnObserverb, there appears to be a few major arguments from the Left that are worth pointing out...

1. There is an implied moral imperative for business owners to "do the right thing." I.e. earn less profit and invest less in making the business more competitive to employ more people here in the US

2. There is a reliance on increased Governmental involvement as the answer to the perceived problem with outsourcing, involving unnatural market restrictions to make this practice illegal at worst or very difficult at best

3. An understanding that lifetime employment at a job, even if it is not practically sustained in a competitive market is paramount.

These ideas belie a complete lack of understanding of the realities of how a free market works, which is the underlying problem with all forms of Utopian Statism in general.

I agree that creating jobs here in the US is of critical importance.

If you follow the arguments above you end up with a "moral standard" that has no bearing on economic reality or human behavior. So, government gets heavily involved, forces companies to do what is unnatural and companies end up either going out of business (ie. everyone loses their job) or they move to more favorable business environments, like those outside the US (ie. more people in the US lose their jobs). In these cases, everyone loses, not just a few folks who lose their jobs.

The only solution is to understand fully how the profit motive dictates economic behavior as a reality and stop trying to impose a Utopian ideal for how you think people "should" behave and create an environment here in the US that favors business investment. If we do this, more people will be working and we will lose far fewer jobs to foreign competitors. We will also have better products and services available here in the US that can directly compete and win.

Why this so difficult to understand, I just don't know...

They view the world as they see it should be, not as it is.

You know, unicorns and skittles, thats how we ended up with this President, he doesn't live in the reality around us

[UnObserverb]

They view the world as they see it should be, not as it is.

You know, unicorns and skittles, thats how we ended up with this President, he doesn't live in the reality around us

Nice try Pulse. You always give yourself away. I'm not calling on the government to do anything. I'm calling on the voters to do the right thing. Simple.

[2012]

Show me a kid whose parents never emphasized education, had to pay his way through Harvard by working long hours in addition to studying, and then amassed advanced degrees while living in squalor and I'll show you a harder worker than Romney. And probably someone more in touch with the educational experiences of most Americans.


You've just described Randy. He grew up in a single parent home and worked his way though Princton and Harvard Business School.

[Unretered]

You've just described Randy. He grew up in a single parent home and worked his way though Princton and Harvard Business School.

Self made, rather than government forced.
We need more industrious, enteprising, risk taking leaders.

Can you imagine what the libs would have done to the USA idf they were around inthe 1800's. Country was built by bold aggressive action, sometimes not pretty, but we have reaped the rewards for it.
If libs had their druthers , we might still ahve 13 states, maybe....

[Randy Outsourcer]

You've just described Randy. He grew up in a single parent home and worked his way though Princton and Harvard Business School.

It's too bad the guy started out so promising and then sold out American livelihoods to get rich.

It's too bad he couldn't have used some of that promise to find a way in a globalized marketplace to keep jobs at home AND turn a greater profit.

It's too bad that this guy who worked his way through college abandoned his fellow middle class workers and sided with greedpig corporate heads...all for MONEY.

Why use your education and intelligence to help your fellow strivers when you can just take care of yourself, right? So what if it costs millions of people their jobs, right?

Randy Boy, what a guy!

[Randy from New Jersey]

I forgot to tell you guys my poor single mother lives on Sutton Place in Manhattan.
Not as nice as my place in the gated community of Head of the Harbor, but still an OK neighborhood.

[UnregisteredC]

Nice try. Nowhere on here has anyone advocated for or even implied that outsourcing should be illegal. And nowhere on here has anyone advocated for or even implied that government involvement to restrict the market is necessary. Why is this so difficult to understand? I just don't know. I mean, it's in black and white all over this thread. I guess some people don't have the time to read.

But you are correct in your statement about morality. I believe that greed is primary motivator when companies decide to fire their stateside employees and pay Third Worlders pennies-on-the-dollar to do the same job for free. I will say this again and for the last time (hopefully): it is legal to do. That doesn't make it the right thing to do.

It's a philosophical question of values, not an economic argument. I understand someone's desire to make money regardless of the negative impact that has on human beings. It's easy to remove humans from the equation when we're talking about economics and money. It's easy to talk about growth when we're ignoring the side effects. Nothing is for free.

I value human beings and American livelihoods. I believe that companies do have a moral obligation to do the right thing by the very workers who made their business a success. Business used to run like that in the states. Globalization may have changed the playing field, but many executives have chosen to not play that game and have seen continued success.

Listen to me carefully: just because you are allowed to do something doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do.

Voters will decide if electing a man who made his millions by destroying American jobs is the kind of man they want to lead. Because, news flash, governing is about people...not always profits. Randy has proven he can turn a profit...but at the expense of people.

I know where you stand on this values issue. And you know where I stand.

Why is this so difficult to understand? I just don't know.

Randy Outsourcer, try reading the posts from UnObserverb before you accuse me of not reading carefully. Your vitriol is also not appreciated.. This is an argument, not a fight.

You are making assumptions that are not based on facts and you are trying to make the world the way you want it to be, rather than working in reality.

Losing a job is not a world crushing end of life event, people lose their jobs all the time and find other jobs.

Calling profit greed is a really stupid way to look at the market...when people make money, what do you think they do with it? Stuff it in their mattress or invest it? Investment creates capital that others, especially small business, uses to create opportunities and jobs. If you own your own home and have a mortgage you can thank your local "greedy" businessmen who made that possible.

I also value Human Beings and my Country, and the Free Market is the only way to achieve the greatest benefit to the greatest number of people ever devised in human history. Just look around and compare what you have here in the US to what others have in their countries. Most of the world is struggling just for basic necessities. In any direction you go here in the US you can find nearly anything you want from all over the world at reasonable prices...take your supermarket as an example. You don't get these benefits when you coerce people into unnatural acts...think about it...

[UnObserverb]

Losing a job is not a world crushing end of life event, people lose their jobs all the time and find other jobs.


Huh? It's traumatic. We're not talking about a 16 year-old who loses his job pushing carts at Waldbaum's or shelving books. People lose their homes and families because of job loss. You're trivializing.

[Recession reality check]

I don't buy into the idea that international trade costs the economy jobs. Lots of people are employed by Canon and Nikon in Long Island, for example.

But even if you do, look at the timing.

Mr. Altschuler sold Office Tiger in six years ago when the unemployment rate was under 5%. Since then it jumped to 10% and only recently subsided to a still miserable 8.3%.

Why not blame the people who were running the country for the last five years of recession?

[maxmo]

. You don't get these benefits when you coerce people into unnatural acts...think about it...

You don't understand, they have thought about it, and decided it is not fair!
It is not fair that the top 5 percent earned 31.7 percent of the nation's adjusted gross income!!
but paid approximately 58.7 percent of federal individual income taxes.

It is a child like approach, taught through our school system, and when they graduate, they realize life isn't fair.

Darwins law, survivival of the fittest, makes for the most efficient and best world wide economy. People can learn to adapt, but they don't like change, they would rather have government regulations protect them.

Adapt, learn new skills, prosper and flourish. And stop the naive childlike view of the world.

[UnObserverb]

by September 2006, OfficeTiger expanded to 29 offices and 42 client locations across nine countries and employed 4,000 people in India, 4,000 in Europe, 1,000 in Sri Lanka, 750 in the United States, and 300 in the Philippines.[8] Altschuler has claimed OfficeTiger is not a traditional outsourcing company, but rather one whose overseas employees "enhance the services and jobs that Americans are doing here domestically." Later in the interview, he contends, "You want the professionals here doing different kinds of things than he or she is doing today. Office Tiger allows them to take some of the more traditional tasks and outsource that offshore." [5] However, later in the same interview, Altschuler admitted some companies use OfficeTiger to "cut costs and save money by shipping jobs off shore."[5]

[Pulse]

by September 2006, OfficeTiger expanded to 29 offices and 42 client locations across nine countries and employed 4,000 people in India, 4,000 in Europe, 1,000 in Sri Lanka, 750 in the United States, and 300 in the Philippines.[8] Altschuler has claimed OfficeTiger is not a traditional outsourcing company, but rather one whose overseas employees "enhance the services and jobs that Americans are doing here domestically." Later in the interview, he contends, "You want the professionals here doing different kinds of things than he or she is doing today. Office Tiger allows them to take some of the more traditional tasks and outsource that offshore." [5] However, later in the same interview, Altschuler admitted some companies use OfficeTiger to "cut costs and save money by shipping jobs off shore."[5]

you have successfully cut through all the BS here. The real culprit here is NOT Office Tiger, but the unscrupulous evil American business owner. Officer Tiger didn't ship the jobs away, the company owners did. Th epurpose of Office Tiger was to "Office Tiger allows them to take some of the more traditional tasks and outsource that offshore", but the evil American businessman used this tool for other purposes.
So you will attribute every murder to Samuel Colt because he invented the Colt .45?
Randy, you have beencleared! But we already knew that :)

[UnObserverb]

from the bong. Too early in the day to be getting high, don't you think?

[Randy Outsourcer]

you have successfully cut through all the BS here. The real culprit here is NOT Office Tiger, but the unscrupulous evil American business owner. Officer Tiger didn't ship the jobs away, the company owners did. Th epurpose of Office Tiger was to "Office Tiger allows them to take some of the more traditional tasks and outsource that offshore", but the evil American businessman used this tool for other purposes.
So you will attribute every murder to Samuel Colt because he invented the Colt .45?
Randy, you have beencleared! But we already knew that :)

Nope. Randy pioneered the model and then created a company that helped people do this. He has the blood of American workers on his hands.

Who is guilty: the assassin or the guy who ordered the hit...or both?

Guilty as charged.

[2012]

What about all the jobs destroyed by Steve Jobs? How many people does IBM employ making Selectric typewriters anymore. Horrible!

And think of what John Deere did to the mule drivers? Henry Ford is personally responsible for a great many blacksmiths losing their jobs since people stopped riding horses.

Let's be consistent and put a stop to all of this. We would have jobs for all!

Trade and innovation always have costs and benefits, but the costs always outweighs the benefits.

[Recession reality check]

Let's be consistent and put a stop to all of this. We would have jobs for all!

.What about all the jobs destroyed by Steve Jobs? How many people does IBM employ making Selectric typewriters anymore. Horrible!

And think of what John Deere did to the mule drivers? Henry Ford is personally responsible for a great many blacksmiths losing their jobs since people stopped riding horses.


They can't deal with that. For Tim Bishop has nothing to run on. And when you have nothing to run on, you make things up about your opponent.

[UnObserverb]

Such as?