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08-15-2005, 12:03 PM
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August 15, 2005

When Islip town board member Christopher Bodkin thrice ran with Republican backing, he would collect 40 names on petitions and rely on the party committee to get thousands more to qualify for the November ballot.

Dumped by his own party, Bodkin this summer lost 10 pounds going door to door in sweltering heat to personally get 600 names. With friends, Bodkin got 4,407 signatures, double the 2,000 minimum needed to get on the primary ballot to keep his job.

But the Suffolk Board of Elections tossed him off the ballot and the grueling, and so far unsettled, gauntlet to get the courts to reinstate his petitions has left the veteran shaken.

"I thought the hard part would be getting the signatures," said Bodkin, because he opposes his party's efforts to alter the voter-approved term limits. "But this is far more upsetting."

Bodkin is not alone. More than three dozen courtroom battles are being played out in Nassau and Suffolk over election petitions. And in most cases, technicalities rather than substance rule. In Bodkin's case, three days of legal arguments centered not on the legitimacy of signatures, but whether his lawyer gave proper legal notice by taping court papers at his opponent's front door.

Experts, like Rachel Leon, executive director of New York Common Cause, call New York's ballot access laws "extremely archaic," designed to protect party-backed candidates and keep challengers off the ballot.

"Petitions should be simply a showing that a candidate has some level of support," she said. "But here it is a blatant means to keep people off the ballot rather than a standard you need to meet to get on."

Jeremy Creelan, of New York University law school's Brennan Center of Justice, agreed: "The requirements are nonsubstantive and meant to ensnare the nonprofessional candidate who cannot afford a good elections lawyer."

Backers maintain that petitions are intended to limit the field to candidates who can make a legitimate showing of support. They say mandating proper notice applies to everyone and is intended only to assure all sides get legal papers in time. Even critics say rules have loosened in the past decade. "It used to be be if you used the wrong color cover page it was rejected," said Leon.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) thought New York's elections laws were so bad that in 2000 he referred to Gov. George Pataki as "Comrade Pataki" and the state GOP "as the last vestiges of communism" when they tried, unsuccessfully, to deny him a place on the 2000 presidential primary ballot.

Richard Winger, editor of Ballot Access News, a San Francisco-based newsletter, said New York has the worst ballot laws, followed by Illinois and Pennsylvania.

Two-thirds of the states require no petitions, just a fee to assure that candidates are serious, he said. Others mandate just a handful of names with a system in which state officials check to see whether those who sign petitions are voters with no challenge process. Some combine the two.

In California, Winger said, candidates can run in district elections by gathering 40 signatures or 65 signatures for statewide office. Also required is a fee of 1 percent of the annual salary for a legislative office, 2 percent for a statewide post.

But what is most unsettling, Winger said, is that there seems to be so little interest in New York in changing its Byzantine system. "I'm struck by the resistance of people in power," he said, "It's [requiring fewer names or no petitions at all] the dominant system in the rest of the country; Canada does it and so do the British. But I get the impression that no one there even thinks about it."
Copyright 2005 Newsday Inc.

I told ya.
08-23-2005, 03:44 PM
The Appellate court has overturned the Nassau Judge's decision to place Bodkin and Flotterton on the ballot ending their crusade to get on the September Primary Ballot.

Say goodnight Gracie.

fix is in
08-23-2005, 08:18 PM
at what point does the public finally wake up and realize that they really don't live in a democracy even though their sons and daughters are being maimed and killed for the pretext of it? this is just so unbelievable. if the public allows these kind of election law abuses, they deserve exactly what they get.

Gust
08-23-2005, 08:31 PM
Court throws bodkin off ballot again
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Apealete court over turned Judge DeMaros decision.
Bodkin & Flippy off the ballot. No Primary!
Hope he told his few $ supporters at his fundraiser that they are giving Good Money after bad cause.
The Sad thing is All his donors will be listed on his next finance statement, So those who are in control will know
who the enemy is.
remember
to the victor goes the spoils.
Don't cry for me Bodkintina, the truth is you where always a loser..in the old days and in the future

IKnowitAll
08-23-2005, 11:37 PM
Where did you hear this ? I have not seen anything in Newsday yet. If this is true, it is another example of the dirty pool McMaybelliene Man will play. Oh wait, this post will be taken down once that scumbag 4-4-4-4-4- reads it or McGoons boyz read it and call him


The Appellate court has overturned the Nassau Judge's decision to place Bodkin and Flotterton on the ballot ending their crusade to get on the September Primary Ballot.

Say goodnight Gracie.

MCMAYBELINE
09-13-2005, 11:16 PM
BYE BYE MCMAYBELINE....BODKIN WINS!!!!!