public saftey

[plenty]

I noticed that the TOH has public safety officers, they ride around in what looks like police cars. Now Nassau County has Public Safety officers as well, they also ride around in what looks like police cars. Now I know the county has a police department,just what do these new public safety people do?
Could it be someone is building a new law enforcement agency under the guise of calling it security? What are their responsibilities. Do they carry weapons, etc.
Is a new administartion democrat running this organization?

[hornet]

they cars you refer to,as well as the people, ARE members of the Police Departemnt -- CIVILIAN members of the department. They do NOT carry weapons, and are responsible for various security functions countywide.

[I spy]

"Could it be someone is building a new law enforcement agency under the guise of calling it security? "

Yes. Its run by the same group that's causing CHEMTRAILS.

[real police]

The Department of Public Safety is just a renaming of the Security Office. They combined Security with the Park Rangers and renamed it. They are NOT part of the Police Department. They are not police offices. They are not Peace Officers. They are square badge civilians dressing up in smoky the bear hats so that the red rat can play cop again.

[hornet]

they are, as of about three weeks ago, CIVILIAN members of the department.

[Trouble]

Leader of that security office said to be looking into peace officer status for his officers.

[real police]

will have to check that out ---must have kept it pretty quiet. The (red) head of that outfit must want to be a cop again despite his disability retirement. 1st month on the job they gave him a police gun. Rumor was that after he had "retired" on disability from NCPD years ago he was inches away from indictment for disability fraud

[Straight up Cop]

There is nothing to check out, the union has been complaining about the new public safety dept. Suozzi made them part of the PD, despite none of them going through aan investigation, done by the Police.
It's just another Suozzi creation, that he added into the Police budget.
Unknown what his real plan is for them.
The union wants the cars to be changed, they look too much like real Rmps
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[Kyle]

Yes, The Town of Hempstead does have a Public Safety Department, and it is a tax saving - live saving method of providing assurance and peace of mind to the residents our the TOH. The Department has been around for over 40 years. The Officers, trained professionals, are civil service exam qualified and receive training from the Nassau, Suffolk and New York City Police Department. The are highly visible and provide a function that allows me to sleep easier, as I live adjacent to a Town of Hempstead Parks Facility. The Officers are on continuous patrol of all town facilities and therefore allow the NCPD to better serve us by attending to more serious matters. Thanks for the Public Safety Officers! And, I should know, I served as a New York City P.D. Command Officer for many years, and known the value of money and efforts well spent.

[Kyle]

As a user of Bay Park for fishing and Eisenhower Park for golfing, driving range, and jogging, I have noticed that there are no public safety officers at Bay Park during the day, plus the public safety headquarters building in Eisenhower Park is now closed and locked at all times. Where did they both go and why? Whose bright idea was this? Are all other county parks like this? Does anyone have an answer? What is a person to do if there is an emergency and they need help? Please bring back the park rangers.

[kemp]

I don't know what happened to your park rangers but have seen public safety guys at the parks. they drive cars that have similar markings to county police cars and have a phone number on the back panels I think its
516-MON-ETTE Just dial 911 if you need help.
If your so disturbed about it, why not E-mail suozzi with your concerns.

[hear dat]

kemp is dead on -- if you email Suozzi, you WILL recieve a reply -- it's be chock full of cliches and pat quotes, but.....

[kemp]

but..... IF he gets enough mail maybe just maybe he will start to get the message that not everyone likes newsdays brash young county executive. And if there's one thing this guy wants, it's to be liked.

Don't be afraid to challenge the cliches and pat quotes
it takes about as much time as it does to write here.

[Kyle]

Please, let's not confuse TOH DPS with the problems the County may be experiencing with their Public Safety Department. The TOH DPS was organized in 1965 and has had many of its alumni suceed and graduate onto professisonals in law, medicine and yes, current elected officials of our Town and County. The TOH DPS is a tried and true group of men and women who are law enforcement professionals that received their training in the Police Academies of Nassau, Suffolk and NYC. Local police executives, police unions and police fraternal organizations support and work hand-in-hand with the PSO of the Town. "Let's give credit where credit is due !" GOD BLESS AMERICA AND OUR TROOPS WORLDWIDE

[kemp]

Ok Kyle we know where you stand and I think we have limited this to the county public saftey people.
But tell me how does one get that TOH job without kissing some politicians ass or being his cousin.
Just what do they teach you in the academies of Nassau, Suffolk and NYC and when did the last class go through. I have been told that these academies do not teach security guards, they teach police officers.
Careful with that law enforcement professionals line, maybe you have a few retired law enforcement professionals but they are currently security professionals.

[any answers]

Does anyone have the answer to this? Was Public Safety created as a toy for the politically well connected appointed red headed director to play with. Who went out on a questionable police disability pension. Who wants to be a part of the police department again, but that would mean losing his questionable police disability pension. So create a bogus job title for him, give him an office in police headquarters. Pay him for a bogus job title and let him keep his questionable police disability pension. What a scam on the taxpayer and all the hard working county workers. Suozzi wants to lay off 600 county workers by September 2003. Will the red headed director be one of them? or will Suozzi make him his paid chauffeur instead of a volunteer chauffeur, which he was when Suozzi was running for the county executive office? Which would let the red head to keep his questionable police disability pension again.

[CE Insider]

I have heard that the creation of public safety was a BIG MISTAKE. The parks want the park rangers back, since there is not enough officers in the parks like there used to be. Most of them have been moved to the Mineola buildings. The CE and deputy CE’s have not seen any budget savings as promised by the appointed director of public safety. Who is getting a nassau county police department disability pension plus a salary as public safety director on top of that. It is know the employee moral is minus zero because of the director. Promised big changes to come. As I find them out I will post them.

[MS Butterfly]

The email is not read by Suozzi. It goes to a group called constituent affairs and they answer. He only gets selected emails filterd by Ian Siegal.

[kemp]

Public Saftey is a duplication of service designed to distribute patronage postions to friends of the new administration. Look around TOH, TONH, and TOB have public saftey units, why create another?

[stephen edmondson]

hade no town security or safety dept

[NassauResident]

public safety officers should replace the county security guards...these guards are lacking experience and are extremely unprofessional...they also do not have any weapons if something ever does happen...the social services building is one place you can find these people...and this building is known for its disputes
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[NJ PS Officer]

I am a Public Safety Officer in NJ. To straighten out your views on Public Safety, I am a trained Peace Officer (full police academy), Firefighter (full academy) and a Nationally Registered EMT. These three things are what create the triangle of Public safety. We do carry a weapon and respond to all emergency calls (Police, Medicals, and fires). We are not called Police because being trained in each EMS service, Public Safety is a much better name, and says it all. Sorry to disappoint those who thought we were disguised Security Guards.

[Cops]

That is true in your area and many other areas in the country, but in this area public safety officers for the most part are security guards...........Cops are cops, firemen are firemen and Amt's are Amt's.......So you have to know where your talking about before you can straighten anyonne out........
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[badboyz]

Once again we must hear from the almighty Nassau police Officer who has this inherint self image of supieriority and selflishness. Sorry to say, most States in the USA have public safety officers which carry out their duties alongside the county police. That's the right way, that's the most efficient way to insure public safety. Since our almighty cops make as much as doctors here in Nassau, we already must place 25% of all our taxes just to keep feeding them and making them "RICHER". Greed and an unforgiving EGO of course, is what drives cops like the ones who post here and ridicule hard working public safety officers (who make less than half the salary of our spoiled donut eaters) to try and squash any "sharing" of police related responsibilities.
I don't like Suozzi, but I do like how he has handled the COPS so far.. Bad Boys bad boys, what u gonna do?

[pingabc]

check your tax bill before you open your mouth. police less than 5 percent. How about your school taxes.....well over 50 percent. How about your "volunteer" fire department? How about your library taxes? Check your facts before you show your obvious envy.

[slaq567]

Police budget makes up 1/4 (25%) of the county budget. Why dont you get your facts straight!
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[pingabc]

slaq567, you get your facts correst. yes, 25 percent of the county's budget, for an agency that runs 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. BUT LESS THAN 5 PERCENT OF YOUR TAX BILL. SO YOU GET IT RIGHT BEFORE YOU POP OFF.

[Future Fire Marshal]

Could it be that in order to save some money those employees who were formerly in county security had a title chance so they would not have to meet the state requirement for a security guard. This way the county would not have to spend money to properly train them.

In regard to the PSO from NJ on what constitutes a PSO, the closest thing Nassau County has to a true PSO would be the Fire Marshals. They are Peace Officers (basic peace officer course, Firearms And Deadly Physical Force long course), Firefighters (because you must be an exempt firefighter (5 years) before you can even take the test), State certified EMT-D (minimum), State Code Enforcement Officer (142 hours of training on state building codes), Hazardous Materials Technician (minimum), and Confined Space Qualified.

[DIGI]

I WAS A TOH PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER AND NOW I AM A NYPD POLICE OFFICER I WAS PROUD TO BE ONE PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER TOH HAVE KEPT CRIME DOWN IN THE PARKS AND TOWN PROPERTY AND YES WE DO NEED THEM . STOP CALLING THEM SECURITY GUARDS THEY DO WRITE SUMMONSES AND HAVE MEMO BOOKS AND GO TO TOWN EMERGENCIES
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[Waldo]

I ditto that, but lets also mention the assistance that is rendered by their patrol vehicles when they happen an accident and the crime that may be deterred by theit uniformed presence.

[safety]

I AM CURRENTLY A TOH PSO. AND WE ARE A VERY BUSY DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE VARIOUS SECURITY POSTS, PATROLS, AND DETAILS. WE COME ACROSS ALL TYPES OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES ON A REGULAR BASIS. OUR DEPARTMENT HAS APPLIED FOR PEACE OFFICER STATUS 2 TYPES IN THE LAST 2 YRS AND HAVE BEEN DENIED, FOR REASONS WE DON'T , WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THE SUPERVISOR AND TOWN BOARD IS AGAINST OUR STATUS BUT YET THEY GIVE US PEPPER SPRAY AND HAND CUFFS. BUT NASSAU COMMUNITY COLLEGE PUBLIC SAFETY'S PEACE OFFICER STATUS PASSED?????? WE DO HELP OUT THE NCPD AND THEY HELP US WE HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL TYPES OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THEY ASSIST US WHEN NEEDED.

[Jerry]

The Nassau County Fire Marshal's inspection division is a duplication of all the town and village building departments. :">

[keep cops cops]

A POLITICAL TOOL. That is not good. They are supposed to enforce all laws but have proven themselves to be selective. Citizens don't want more police powers given too security guards for towns. Some towns use to have their own police force but found that the costs were better to have the county do it and it cut down on corruption.

[Safety town]

The Town of Hemp Public Saftey dept WOULD have gotten peace officer status if not for it being killed by the Police lobby in Albany.

Look north my friend

[Carriesdad]

Jerry
You sound as if you have had a run in with the Marshals but allow me to clear this up for you.

The inspection divisions of the Fire Marshal’s Office does not enforce the building code in one and two family dwellings it enforces the state building code and the Nassau County Fire Prevention Ordinance in all Public occupancies, all hazardous manufacturing processes, locations where there is storage or installations of gases, chemicals, oils and other flammable materials, all interior fire alarms, standpipes and automatic sprinkler systems, and such other hazards or appliances as required. The building departments do not

While the Building departments deal primarily with structural issues, the Marshals office deals with life safety and fire prevention issues.

All fire alarm plans, sprinkler/stand pipe plans, flammable and combustible liquid storage plans, LPG (propane) installation plans, and site review for Fire Department access are done by the Fire Marshals office local code officials do not review these plans.

The fire marshals office conducts or oversees fire protection system tests. These include fire alarm test, sprinkler tests, stand pipe tests, fire pump tests, emergency lighting tests, and inspection of new and in service LP installations, proper storage of oxidizers, tightness testing of flammable and combustible liquids storage, automatic extinguishing systems, hood and duct installations, flammable finish application booths, and more. These are not covered by local code enforcement officials and require a degree of knowledge not possessed by them there expertise is in structural systems while the Marshals is in fire protection systems.

Overcrowding of public assemblies is enforced by the marshal’s office as is locked and blocked exits, improper storage of combustible or explosive matter or unnecessary accumulations of rubbish, waste paper, boxes, or any other highly flammable materials which is so situated as to endanger property, or obstructions to or on fire escapes, stairs, steps, passageways, doors or windows, liable to interfere with the operations of the fire department or egress of occupants in case of fire, and the proper maintenance of fire protection systems.

In many cases the Fire Marshals work with the local building departments to resolve issues and conduct enforcement that the local department is not empowered to do.

So while there are some similarities and the Marshals can enforce the building code and are all state certified code enforcement officers like the building departments the Marshals do much more in the area of fire prevention. Each have a job and while there is some overlap they are not the same.

[county watchdog]

I RAN ACROSS ONE OF THESE PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS WHO INFORMED ME THAT THEY CAN GIVE OUT TICKETS FOR MOVING VIOLATIONS WHILE ON TOH AND PARK GROUNDS. IS THIS TRUE? IF SO I FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD LEAVE THIS TO TRAINED PROFESSIONALS.

[DIGI]

TO THE PERSON WHO WANTS TO KNOW THAT TOH PSO CAN GIVE MOVING VIOLATION OUT YES THEY DO HAVE BIG PARKS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN ROAD WAYS INCLUDING TOWN PARK POINT LOOKOUT IF YOU DECIDE TO BLOW A STOP SIGN THEY CAN PULL YOU OVER AND PERSONAL SUMMONSES TO CRIMINAL COURT AND PARKERS I LIKE TO SAY THEY ARE NOT SECURITY GUARDS AND STOP CALLING THE THAT ALOT OF THEM HAVE HELPED AND SAVED PEOPLE AND FELLOW LAW ENFORCMENT OFFICERS THEY ASSISTED WHEN THEY WHER IN TROUBLE INCLUDING THIS AUTHOR IN DECEMBER 1994 . I AM A POLICE OFFICER NOW BUT I WILL NOT FORGET WHERE I CAME FROM LITTLE DIGI LIVES ON GOD BLESS YOU GUYS STAY SAFE AND WE ARE ALL COPS
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[Jerry]

What you say is in part true and I believe there is a purpose for fire marshals and that is investigation the cause of fires and trained response for haz mat situations. The task of enforcement of the State Code in New York State rests on the towns and villages and in areas with no building departments the state, not the counties. Correct me if I am wrong but I do not know of a county building department in New York. The formation of the Nassau County Fire Prevention Ordinance, I believe was just another parallel legislation passed to insure the proliferation of the Nassau County Fire Marshall's Office. Everything you say about the sprinklers and other items pertaining fire prevention and to public assembly can be addressed by the local building departments during routine enforcement of the NYS Code therefore eliminating another layer of goverment and fees placed upon the already overstressed taxpayer of Nassau County as well as an additional time frame to deal with. I believe that if these individuals, who are all members of fire departments in Nassau want to be code enforcement officers, they should take tests for the towns and villages. I am sure that these jurisdictions would appreciate these dedicated individuals. As far as situations that may arise, please enlighten me on what type of code situation the NCFM office could enforce that a local building dept could not other than enforcement of the redundant Nassau Code or some other criminal activity which could be resolved by a 911 call by the CEO. As far as the enforcement of overcrowding of public assembly areas the NCFM Office doesn't have an exclusive on that situation. That is done by the police and the building department who issued the public assembly permit in the first place. You indicate that there is an expertise in the NCFM office that you think does not lie in the local building departments, aside from the peace officer training that was received by NCFM members, all the CEO's in Nassau have to pass the same state code enforcement training course as the NCFM does. Many of the individuals in these local departments are registered architects and engineers, so much for expertise. As far as jurisdiction in 1 and 2 family residential situations there have been attempts by NCFM to get invloved in that and if it had not been discovered by some alert CEO's from local jurisdictions to nip this backdoor legislation the residential property owner would have to deal with a multi layer goverment condition as the commercial owner does. Please do not think I am totally down on the NCFM office, as stated in the beginning of my message I believe that they perform well and are needed as stated but I question the need of the inspection division since it duplicates and possibly usurps the jurisdictions that actually issue the building and use permits and have the say on occupancy limitations.

[notthesame]

I am a code enforcement officer who works with the fire marshall's office periodically. I can honestly say there is a need for their inspection division. While the state building and fire prevention codes have their purpose, the Nassau County Fire Prevention Ordinance is much more restrictive in a wide variety of areas. It also provides for one uniform fire safety code enforced evenly across the county. In addition, their "expertise" comes in dealing with areas that local buidling inspectors are not familiar with or just don't take the time to learn. Finally all of the fire marshals have the safety of firefighters in mind when they conduct their inspections. I think this is something that all firefighters would like to know. I frequently call on the fire marshalls for assistance or advice and they have called on my from time to time. It's a good working relationship.

[slumlord]

I have people in the cellar. I have people in the attic.
I have multiple meters running. I pay taxes on a single family dwelling but I have in some single family dwellings up to 4 families living in them.

[Jerry]

I understand your point, but I don't think the taxpayers of Nassau County can afford the luxury of these duplications for much longer. If the various building departments are not enforcing the code properly, they should be turned to the Dept of State oversight unit. Another option would to have the local jurisdictions enforce the the NC Fire Ordinance as well the as the state and local codes , the ADA and the various ref. standards that they enforce now. Your one of the few CEO's that I have heard say anything positive about this situation. What does the local Fire Districts inspectors do ? I have heard of operators of public assembly locations being given conflicting information on their occupancies by the FI's in areas where the occupancy is controlled by the amount of parking , suggesting a mandate to these owners or operators to increase the amount of occupancy for profit motives and causing distress for the local surrounding residences. It appears some of the members of the NCFM office may not be concerned about zoning as it may not be a life safety issue normally but is a quality of life issue. It is also my understanding that the conflicts between the local building departments is so great particularly on the village level that the members of the Fire Marshall's office are not allowed in the Nassau building inspectors association as regular members. As an informed outsider who deals with these departments this leads me to believe that there may be some sort of rivalry going on at the taxpayers cost. Please don't think that this is my only issue I feel the same about the parks and road jurisdictions, we the taxpayers of Nassau must receive relief somehow.

[NCTP]

I hope your not a fire marshal.

[town resident]

why is the town of hempstead officers not "peace officers" what can they do or cant do?? i see them all over helping people in the streets and in the parks and espically at point lookout beach.. it looks like all they carry is a radio or a cell phone.. is there a way for them to get better protection for themselves and others, they look like cops they should be protected in the same way.

[town hall]

rumor has it that after last months heated board meeting, which public safety was a hot topic. the rumor is that the t.b wants to disban the group. but i did hear there closing down there headquartes, dont know why yet haven't heard that yet, and dont know if there closing or just relocating???
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[Carries Dad]

I?m glad you see the purpose of the Marshal?s Office for Fire Investigations and Hazmat Response I?ll be content when you see the differences between the Marshals and Local Code Officials.
First we will clarify your statement ?The task of enforcement of the State Code in New York State rests on the towns and villages and in areas with no building departments the state? this is only partially correct If a local village, city, or towns ops out of enforcing the New York state uniform fire prevention and building code (NYSUFPBC) enforcement is deferred to the county ? In such event the county in which said local government is situated shall administer and enforce the uniform code within such local government?( ARTICLE 18 NEW YORK STATE UNIFORM FIRE PREVENTION AND BUILDING CODE ACT Section 381.2)

Also due to the unique nature and make up of Nassau the State Legislature allowed for the adoption of local laws by Nassau allowing it to enact more restrictive standards. (ARTICLE 18 NEW YORK STATE UNIFORM FIRE PREVENTION AND BUILDING CODE ACT Section 379.5)

You stated ?The formation of the Nassau County Fire Prevention Ordinance, I believe was just another parallel legislation passed to insure the proliferation of the Nassau County Fire Marshall's Office.?
This is also an incorrect statement the original ?An Ordinance for the prevention of fires by establishing uniform regulations for the control of fire hazards and for the enforcement of such regulations? was passed by the County of Nassau in the 1950?s long before the New York State Uniform Building Code came into being in 1984.

As for sprinklers and other items pertaining to fire prevention and to public assembly not all can be addressed by the local building departments. The CEO?s though as you state many are registered architects and engineers their focus is on building construction not fire protection systems or fire prevention. In many instances the local building department is composed of one individual. It would be difficult to find an individual that had a through knowledge of all the disciplines needed to effectively enforce or review all aspects of the state codes and NCFPO.

Each jurisdiction has a responsibility that is specific in the sense that plan review of fire alarm systems, sprinkler systems, stand pipe systems, LPG installations, Flammable and combustible storage tank installations, as well as site plans for fire department access, and the inspection of all hazardous manufacturing processes, storage or installations of gases, chemicals, oils and other flammable materials, all interior fire alarms, standpipes and automatic sprinkler systems along with routine fire safety inspection falls to the marshal?s office. Routine fire inspections are conducted by the Fire Marshals office or the local assistant Fire Inspectors who work under the supervision and direction of the Fire Marshal. (Local Fire inspectors in cities or villages where a Bureau Of Fire Prevention has been duly created by the governing body of such city or village, May enforce the NCFPO. Assistant fire inspectors that are employed by fire districts, cities and villages that don?t have a Bureau Of Fire Prevention have no enforcement authority)

Plan review of new construction, additions and alterations and the required construction and structural inspections during construction are conducted by the local CEO?s..

As for the elimination of fees if the plan review for these items now done by the marshals office were done by the local building department where do you think they would get the money to provide the additional personnel to do the review. I would say it would be from an increase in fee?s for a building permit or a separate fee for those specific items. It would probably also increase the time frame in which plans are reviewed and approved.

Yes Enforcement of the NCFPO is a large part of the enforcement conducted by the Marshals. Since most violations of the NCFPO are either criminal violations or Misdemeanor offenses the local CEO?s can?t enforce them. Like wise you won?t see the NCPD rushing in to enforce them because they require a specific knowledge. Similar to that of the environmental conservation laws, Navigation law, or the taxation and finance law, which you don?t see most street cops enforcing, they?re outside the scope of their training.

Moving on to your statement ?You indicate that there is an expertise in the NCFM office that you think does not lie in the local building departments? yes there is All members of the Marshals Office must have a Minimum of five years in the fire service before they can even take the test, they must also have hazmat awareness. There is no requirement for the building departments similar to that. How does one really know or appreciate the effects of a fire on a structure unless one has first hand experience in dealing with it. Many times through experience the Fire Marshals point out unsafe features or areas missing required protection. These are things that can?t be learned from a book. Remember the codes were designed for structural stability and not really resistance to fire. They are to allow persons occupying the building a minimal amount of time to escape in the event of fire. Now comes the fire department they?re going into a potential death trap because the codes were designed to protect the occupants and allow them to get out not the fire department to go in and operate and extinguish the fire. The more restrictive requirements in the NCFPO allow a little better protection to the fire fighters and a lot more for the normal occupants. Fire alarm systems that give early warning, fire suppression systems that keep a fire in check before serious structural damage begins all are required more frequently in the NCFPO then in the state code. This does result in a safer community which I?m sure you would prefer.

As for your allegation that the NCFM has made attempts to get involved with one and two family dwellings I know of no legislation submitted to the county legislature from the fire commission that concerns these occupancies.

As for you comment on zoning issues and occupancies, As far as I know the Marshal?s always defer to the local code enforcement /building department to determine the occupancy of a building. Are you sure they are from the NCFM and not the local Assistant fire inspector?s that gave that information. (By the way the majority of the assistant Fire inspectors in the county receive no compensation but rather do it as an extension of their duties as a volunteer firefighter.) As for the local building departments having the state oversight called in on them I believe when conflicts arise that has happened. This usually ends resulting in the more restrictive requirements being implemented.

You say you?re an informed outsider that deals with these departments, what exactly is it that you do in your dealings with them are you a contractor, builder, property owner, architects, or engineers and do you deal with both or just the local building department.

And while you question the need for the Marshal?s office it should be clear that they have a different mission than the local Building departments. The continuing protection of the residents through regular fire safety inspection only adds to the quality of life in Nassau County. By having both even with some overlap on authority the county is made a safer place to live and work.
Edited by: Carries Dad at: 2/29/04 9:48 pm

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[what if]

In our town the codes are only selectively enforced. They allow the over crowding and unsafe conditions to exist. Especially when housing is owned by certain real estate businesses and the tenants are legal and illegal immigrants.

[DIGI]

REPLY TO TOWN HALL RUMOR I THINK THAT IT IS CRAZY TO SHUT DOWN TOH PUBLIC SAFETY AND I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAPPEN IF FACT THAT LIKE THE CITY NYPD WANTS TO SHUT DOWN HOUSING POLICE AND GIVE EVERYTHING TO THE PRECINCTS YOU KNOW WHAT A PRECINCT COP IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE RESPONDING :"> LIKE THAT NOT VERY HAPPY AND THE SAME FOR NCPD :">
AND THAT HAPPEN WHO THEIR GOING TO REPLACE THEM WITH 6.50 SECURITY GUARDS FROM GARRISON THAT LOOK LIKE THIS I CANT HELP YOU CALL 911 I HAVE HEARD THAT BEFORE AND THAT WHY THE COUNTY DON'T HAVE PRIVATE SECURITY ANYMORE IN THE PARK .
LITTLE DIGI:">
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[tdk]

The Town of Hempstead having Public Safety Officers is a false sense of security for all town residents. They don't even have police radios. What if they were to be approahed by someone saying "that man is threatening his ex wife with a gun" or " there is a guy in a car trying to lure kids in to it" ? They are going to have to use their radio to call their dispatcher and have the dispatcher call the police. At least the NC Public Safety have police radios. The people are supposed to feel safe in their comunity park because there is a marked car with pretty lights and a uniformed officer inside. Everything will be okay now! The Town of Hempstead needs to do something with its Public Safety Office so that the residents of this town can be safe in their parks!

[gcllt1]

What shift do you currently work?

[tdk]

What is the Safety Officer going to do when he stops a car for running a stop sign in a park and the driver speeds off? Or if the driver decides he wants to smack the crap out of the officer?

[call 911]

call 911

[shut down]

The only thing that should be done is that awful looking building they have over there. It looks like it is ready to fall down. I heard its over a hundred years old. They should send a building inspector in there. The driveway looks like Baghdad.

[shut down]

The only thing that should be done is that awful looking building they have over there. It looks like it is ready to fall down. I heard its over a hundred years old. They should send a building inspector in there. The driveway looks like Baghdad.

[exactly]

That building is nasty. There are squirrels and raccoons walking around in the ceiling. You can hear them. In the summer there are bugs and flies and who knows what. It's downright nasty. The building has thirty coats of crumbling paint around every corner, the stairs move when you walk on them, and the window in the back leaks water like a waterfall. Its not even handicapped accessible, not surprising in a town building. I feel bad for anyone who has to work in that building. At least I only have to go once a month for a meeting.

[gopher]

What makes anyone think that towns can have public safety guards have police powers? Towns are also more liable to have corruption due to many reasons than our county government. Who needs a town police force where they are under the domain of local politicians.
Perish the thought.
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[but]

In the TOwn of Hempstead Code, it is stated that any violation of the town code can be enforced by the Town of Hempstead Public Safey Department. This means that any building violation, stop sign in a park, noise disturbances, etc can be written by them. This means they can also right a parking ticket in front of your house for no inspection or whatever the case may be. BUT, the big boys do not want them doing all this. Why would you need Bldg dept. code enforcement then? Where could they give jobs to those who have contributed to the party? Or whose whole family works in the department and daddy is the commisioner? We need to just create a job for them. Another reason is that they would rather leave all of the violations and quality of life summonses and issues up to Nassau County. If the Town does it, it might cost them a vote or two at Election time.

[town hall]

yes the safety building has been looked at and is or is being condemned, and the rumor on the 4th floor is that their moving the safety dept sometime in the summer to 200 N. Franklin, i don't where they will put them but thats the talk.. anything is better then the present location.
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They should move their employees out of that building. There is another department in there as well. I believe it is DGS. For a municipality that boasts about a surplus, it is a shame to hear that they let their employees work in those conditions

[DIGI]

TO TDK WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH $6.OO HR SECURITY GUARD OR SOMEBODY HAS A PENSION TO RIDE ON I HAVE HEARD OF HEROIC STORIES OF OFFICERS DOING BRAVE STUFF TO PROTECT OTHER PEOPLE . I RESPECT THEM YES THEY SHOULD HAVE RADIO THAT HAVE FFREQUENCES TO NCPD I MUST AGREE WITH THAT . AS PER ASSAULTING ANY BODY A PSO YOU DONT THINK ARREST ACTION OF SOMETHING IS NOT GOING TO BE DONE USE SOME SENSE PEOPLE ASSAULT'S COPS TO I KNOW YOU THINK THEIR ARE NOT GOING TO DO SOMETHING YOU ARE WRONG IT IS CALLED SELF DEFENSE . YOUR OTHER QUESTION THEIR ARE NOT DUMB OFFICERS IF THEIR WAS DANGER HAPPENING TO A SOMEBODY AND THEY DO NOTHING SOMEBODY ASS WOULD BE GRASS .YES THEIR HAVE BEEN OFFICER ASSAULTED BUT THINK STRAIGHT ARE YOU WILLING TO BE LOCKED UP AND BEING CIVIL SUIED FOR ASSULTING ANYBODY. GROW UP FLYSMART.:">
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[tdk]

I see what you are saying DIgi. But, do they have the backing of the big shots of the Town? Say someone resists and this officer does not have the training to detain the guy. I highly doubt they would be backed by their bosses if they used whatever means they had to detain the person. Hitting them with a flashlight? or a radio? Kick in the nuts? I just dont think that they have the training that you think they do.

[tdk]

What about medical emergencies? Are Public Safety Employees trained in first aid? Not by the department. THe few who are have received the training are firemen or EMts. If a public safety officer gives CPR to someone and they don't make it, are they going to be backed and represented by the (My cousin Vinnie) Town Attorneys? What kind of position does that put them in where they have to worry about whether they are being backed by the Town before they act?

[officer and apples]

That is a great name! Purple Headed Warrior!
Now whats this about officers and apples?

[farmer]

thats an interesting one, what do you mean?? no one apple picks on my farm...

[apple picking]

sorry, don't know who it is must not be anyone to important to care..

[4th floor]

Is it the one that has a child with his coworker?

[George]

An apple a day keeps the doctor away.

[DIGI]

HEY TDK I LEARN SOMETHING FROM MY FIELD TRAINING OFFICER WHEN I BECAME A COP. "YOU LIKE TO PLAY MONDAY MORNING QUATERBACK FINE PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS ANDGET YOUR HELMET ON AND GET IN THE GAME" AND TELL THE DIRTY SOAP OPRA FILTY MOUTH FARMER GET OF THIS WEB SITE THIS IS A FAMILY SHOW NOT HOWARD STERN.:"> AND REMBER THIS WOULD YOU WANT A SECURITY GUARD LIKE THIS PROTECTING YOU OR THIS OR THI AFTER A BAD NIGHT OF SMOKING DOPE OR SOMEBODY LIKE THIS MY COUSIN VINNY SECURITY GUARD SERVICE MY I HELP YOU
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[town hall]

hey didgi your last comment made no sense?????
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[DGS 1]

For those who didn't hear yet, last night at the board meeting one of safety officers had an argument with The SUPERVISOR herself in the building, and then had a argument with his bosses in front of all of us.... does anybody know whats going on??? this dosen't really help matters for that department, which i feel does a great job.

[DIGI]

maybe somebody had enough but i will try to find out dgs . arguments don't get you anywhere :"> . but let me tell you something ladies and geltman pso work hard everyday for this town and they deserve a hand protecting the general public and town employees in facilities own by the town /:"> and little digi will live on i was once one of the boys of public safety and now i am a cop i never forgot where i came from .
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[I Know]

In front of all of us? That means it could be only one of three possible people. Are you the same employee that said "she totally egged him on, I heard the whole thing"? Nothin like a @#%$ stirrer. The supv. thinks who she is. She is rude and obnoxious and full of it. Not to mention cheap. Well said Digi.
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[I Know]

DGS, I just thought I would let you know, that the DPS bosses have been messing with that employee ever since he came here. He really is a nice guy, they just push him to the limit to make him snap. He is going through a really tough time in his life right now with issues I can not and will not discuss on an open forum like this. Just ask one of the officers when they are in the garage and they will let you know. Btw, thanks for saying that they do a great job, I take back the comment on @#%$ stirring.
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[In the Know]

IS THIS PSO THE SAME ONE THAT PUSHED A SERGENT INTO A CANDY VENDING MACHINE, AND RUNS TO THE UNION ABOUT MAGAZINES AND PAPERS THAT OFFEND HIM DURING THE WORK DAY.....
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[hmm]

Do you work at town hall?
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[I know too]

The sergeant pushed this guy to his breaking point too, by talking to him like a child. As far as the magazines go, another certain officer kept leaving them in the office because his wife did not allow him to buy them, therefore he could not bring them home. With females working there, they did not want anyone to be offended. This clown kept leaving them there and then cried on his own to the bosses about smoking while working.

[I know too]

The sergeant was pushed into a wall.

[REAL COP]

You guys are a bunch of buffs why dont you apply for the NYPD or NYS Troopers and become real cops.
You guys are a bunch of weiners

[Not a cop]

THey can deal with being 1 in 60 instead of 1 in 40,000. Get paid more money, dont have to constantly be watching their back. Dont get docked days for little things, 20 minutes from home. Excellent benefits package, you do the math.

[yippy skippy]

you forgot to mention thje ass kissing for the gop and the donations that go along with it.
OOps i forgot to mention the fliers and signs on election time.
yes your right i would love a job that i have to kiss ass all day and year to keep it.

[not true]

There may be a few people in that department like that, but I can tell you that alot of them really have no use for the gop, nor do they kiss ass. There are also a couple of buffs who really need to get their heads examined. SOme of them think that because they give someone a ticket for running a stop sign in a park that they are better than others. The dept heads dont like that @#%$, they just want people to go do what is asked of them and not bring any egative attention to them.

[cop too]

espically those on the night tours.... big egos and lots of useless crap on their belts..

[FINEST HERE]

Yes all PSO officers do get tickets after they show id.
what job are they on? for gods sake they dont even have sirens? lol

[tohps]

hey cop we do have sirens and lights too, so we can respond to help our officers when you real cops won't!!!!:">

[FINEST HERE]

Yes im sorry i forgot at t imes when a person is fishing at one of your parks and he gets tangled you have to respond with lights and sirens just like when we are on a gun run. Get a life

Ps Iheard toys r us has a special on toy guns and badges
this week only so hurry up , and also handcuffs oops i forgot you got those

[tohps]

you must be one of those high payed cry baby ncpd officers that hate doing your job, you must also be the kind that hang out at the fire houses all night... t i must say there are a good number of county guys that respect us and help us out when we need it, i thank them, they can look past the b.s.

[DIGI]

MY BUFF COP .YOU THINK THAT PSO CANT HANDLE THEM SELVES YOU GO INTO A PARK AND BREAK UP A FIGHT YOU HAVE NO CHOICE IN THE MANNER YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING . THEIR BEEN A LOT OF COPS WHO GOT THEIR ASS HANDED TO THEM WITH THEIR GUNS IN THEIR HOLSTER . FILE FOR NYPD EXCUSE ME A LOT OF THOSE PSO ARE BRINING THE SAME AMOUNT HOME AS NYPD OFFICERS AND DOING LESS NO COM STAT THEIR . @#%$ HAPPENS IN EVERY DEPARTMENT AND NOT EVERYBODY GET ALONG WITH THEIR SUPERVISORS THAT INCLUDES NCPD . SO GET OF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND SMELL THE COFFEE BECAUSE IF I WAS IN TROUBLE I WOULD BE GLAD AND HAPPY IF THEIR WAS A PSO TO HELP ME.LOVE DIGI:">
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[GIGI]

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[DIGI]

My name is DIGI! Get your helmet on and get into the game.:"> :">
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[tohps]

hey digi i wish you still worked with us, i don't know you ,ive been with the group for about a year, you sound like a great guy i wish there where more of you. keep the support and knowledge comming..

[Not]

A gun run in Nassau County? You must be joking! All I ever see County cops doing is sitting in a parking lot 2 or 3 deep or parked at a firehouse. I more often than not see the village pds working instead of slacking off.

[DIGI]

I DO MISS WORKING IN PUBLIC SAFETY GREAT BUNCH OF GUYS AND LOTS OF FUN YES THEIR WHERE PROBLEMS AND I CANT BEAT BEING A COP . I MISSED THE BEACH DURING THE SUMMER AND THE PARKS I PROTECTED MY TOWN WHICH I AM PROUD OF AND THE MEMORIES WILL NEVER DIE . I WORKED WITH ONE OTHER GUY IN SAFETY WE WORKED IN THE SAME COMMAND AND AT GROUND ZERO . BE PROUD IN WHAT YOU DO DON'T LET A THIRD PARTY BUST YOUR BUBBLE LITTLE DIGI WILL ALWAYS LIVE ON AND THE OTHER GUYS NO THAT WE ARE ALL COPS NO MATHER WHAT DEPARTMENT WE WORK FOR. REMEMBER THAT AS IN THE AFTER MATH OF 9/11 I WORKED WITH DIFFERENT AGENCIES NOTHING SHOULD BE A TURF WAR AND NOTHING SHOULD BAD MOUTH SOMETHING THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT!:">
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[pbaenvy]

Isn't the public safety union guy Rich Breausch?

I think so. You are the same bunch of people fighting the cops right? You people better forget it. If your waiting for him to defend you and get you your due protection your in trouble. He has become a puppet of Jane Damico..read the public relations piece she put out on him in the union newsletter. Nice guy, but quite useless.

[nope]

Public Safety does not have its own union. It is the same union that the rest of the town employees have. They are absolutely useless and are all a part of the GOP political machine!

[mediator]

i suggest all you public safety officers go to Cherry Grove on Fire Island and give each other a union Nassau Pd rules, you guys are looooosers

[OTJ007]

I gave a PSO a ticket last nite and Im proud of it

[DIGI]

YOU GAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER A SUMMONS YOU
PRICK!:">
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[good]

He probably deserved it! Whered ya write him and for what?

[pso 2]

hey cop are you sure the public safety officer wasen't a NASSAU COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER??. i can say we get a little more courtesy and respect then other public safety depts.

[nylaw]

Why? cause your former boss is now a commissioner with the PD??

[pso 2]

our boss in the town of hempstead public safety was never with the p.d. you must be confusing us with another public safety division..

[nylaw]

no nassau county's

[pso 2]

ok nylaw got confused because everyone has been talking about the toh safety dept not the county's..

[DIGI]

REMEMBER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM . FOR THAT COP WHO WROTE A TICKET TO THAT PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER YOU ARE STILL A PRICK:">
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[whocares]

who cares if your a toh pso or n.c. pso because.....

both are wanna be cops
both square badges
both got no guns
both drive llok a like rmps
both get tickets when show tin!!!!

[real copper]

I don't know about you guys, but after driving around Nassau in my new Crown Vic and get my usual 2 calls a tour, if I write a summons to a public safety guy or a volunteer fireman, it just makes my day.

[farmer]

I SMELL BACON, I SMELL GREASE, I SMELL NASSAU COUNTY POLICE.... GIVE TICKETS TO VOL. FIREMEN AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT TYPE ORGANIZATIONS, YOU MUST BE A REAL HARD ON.

[DIGI]

You are not a real cop. You are a fake. BTW when your ass smells and everyone knows, it is time to wash it, PRICK.:"> Love DIGI
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[real copper]

I am the real deal. I've locked up volunteer fireman for 1192.2&3. look it up you dike! you are a wanna be but will never become a real cop cause you are a dike. sorry for the reality check. enjoy your frirend poontang!

[real copper]

I read your comment from page 5 about how when you were on the job working the beach with other PSO. it brought a tear to my eye. you are such a loser. why don't you go home to your trailer on route 110 in lovely Amityville and have sex with your sister

[tired of the children cry]

Bloooow Me.

[mean machine]

you must be a fn democrat. why don't you hang out with Martin Sheen and Michael Moore and stroke each others puds. Nassau PD rules. We run this county.

[shocked]

Are you people for real. Your our Cops? Talking about screwing children and using such trash talk like bloooow me!

Yes, I can see Nassau PD Rules. You run this County?

And your proud of that?

WOW!
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[DIGI]

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[yea right]

Nassau PD rules? Where from the parking lot with eight cars in it babbling about what to do with their humongous paychecks?

[Mr Paycheck]

NYPD = 63,000 A YEAR AFTER 2O years
NCPD = 100,000 A YEAR AFTER 20 YEARS


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WHO IS THE LOOSER?

[Oh Yeah]

SCPD 130k (with OT) god I love this job
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[DIGI]

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[In the Know]

Rumor has it that the supervisor is filling charges against the officer who yelled at her and didn't do his job that he was hired to do.. that officer has nothing to worry about, he has a certain councilwomen on his side
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[nope]

There are no charges being filed. His bosses were too scared to talk to him about it or mention anything about the supervisor. You obviously are not as "in the know" as you think you are.........

[oh please]

shut up already! I am sick of hearing about you losers and your leader....Miss Piggy!

[FIVEOH]

To all you buffs,

Thesres a test coming out soon ........ if you guys wanna be real cops take the test....... if not just keep being a square badge and cry when you get a summons

[square]

Isn't the badge the same as a pd badge. They look exactly alike.

[DIGI]

Sorry you haven't heard from me in a while, but who is the real loser? PSO's who get paid and able to support their family, so what, at least they have a job. No matter what uniform you wear, we are all still on the job and that is comming from a cop.

Love Little DIGI!:">
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[hiring]

Are they hiring and how do I get the job?

[You Don't want this job -]

What is wrong with the administration? If you know that much about it, you should contact her and send it. I am not trying to be a jerk. At least share what is wrong with te administration.

[not likely]

Come on people, do you really think there are any problems in the public safety administration? The commissioner was appointed by the republican supervisor. There is no way that someone unqualified would be put in that position.

[ALERT1]

SEVERAL MONTHS AGO I WAS TOLD THAT THIS WEB SITE EXISTED. NOW THAT I HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO READ THE ENTRIES I WAS AMAZED THAT PEOPLE WOULD BR ARGUING ABOUT THE TOWNS PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT.

DURING THE 60'S THE TOWN BOARD FOUND THE NEED TO CREATE A DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD PROTECT THE REAL PROPERTY OF THE TOWN OF HEMPSTEAD. THE DEPARTMENT WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED PARK POLICE. SINCE THEN IT WAS CHANGED TO THE PRESENT NAME.
THE REAL PROPERTY OF THE TOWN INCLUDES PARKS, BUILDINGS, CEMETERIES AND SENIOR CENTERS. THEY ARE ALSO ABLE TO ENFORCE ANY CODE OF THE TOWN OF HEMPSTEAD.

YES THEY DO DRIVE VEHICLES THAT LOOK LIKE POLICE CARS.
YES THEY DO RECEIVE TRAINING FOR MEDICAL EMERGENCIES.
YES THEY HAVE RECEIVE TRAIN BY NUMEROUS POLICE ACADEMIES.
YES THEY ARE VERY QUALIFIED.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE NEXT STATEMENT TO THE NCPD OFFICER THAT GET PLEASURE OUT OF ISSUING SUMMONSES TO PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS AND VOLUNTEERS. IF YOU ARE A GOOD POLICE OFFICER YOU WOULD NOT FEEL THREATENED BY THIS DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE ASSISTED NCPD EVERYDAY OF OUR EXISTENCE. SO PLEASE TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO RESEARCH YOUR FACTS. YOU ALSO MUST REALIZE THAT WE, ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS HAVE HELPED NCPD OFFICERS BY DRIVING THEM HOME WHEN THEY DRANK TOO MUCH, MAKING CERTAIN THAT THE OFFICERS THAT STOLE A TOWN TRUCK AND THEN BROKE INTO CABANAS TO STEAL ALCOHOL WERE NOT PROSECUTED, TO ASSISTING THEM AT ACCIDENTS AND ARRESTS. MY POINT IS, WE EXTEND PROFESSIONAL COURTESY TO YOUR MEMBERS, WHY CAN'T YOU WHEN SO MANY OF YOUR FELLOW OFFICERS DO.

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THE NEXT TOPIC IS THE ONE THAT TOOK PLACE AT TOWN HALL. THE OFFICER INVOLVED SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED YEARS AGO FOR HIS TEMPER TANTRUMS. HE IS VIOLENT AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO KEEP HIS JOB. IF IT WASN'T FOR HIS ABILITY TO PLAY THE RACE CARD I AM CERTAIN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED YEARS AGO. BY THE WAY THE TOWN IS TAKING THE PROPER MEASURES. THEY ARE WAITING FOR THE OFFICERS HEALTH TO IMPROVE.

AS FOR THE HEADQUARTERS BUILDING-
THE TOWN RENT THIS BUILDING FROM THE CHURCH NEXT DOOR. THEY HAVE NOT ALLOWED ANY MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS AND THE ONE THAT HAVE BEEN DONE WAS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE TOWN. THE BUILDING SHOULD BE TORNED DOWN BUT BECAUSE THE CHURCH WANTS TO MAKE A DAYCARE CENTER, THE LAWS WILL BE OVERLOOKED.

HELLO TO DIGI AND KYLE.

[DIGI]

ALERT1 WE PROBALY MET BEFORE THANKS FOR TELLING THE TRUTH THATOH PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER DO ALOT FOR THW TOWN AND TELL THE GUYS BE SAFE OUT THEIR !:">
DIGI
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[DIGI]

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[COPP]

blah blah blah blah blah

[tohps]

2 MONTHS TILL THE BIG MOVE.... JUST IN TIME FOR THE BUSY SEASON AT THE BEACH

[Not Sure]

With all of the money that was put in to their current building in the last few years, they arent going anywhere.

[PD]

When's the next test?

[noone]

I bet that with all of the posts on this topic, noone here even works in that department. Test? What test?You have to know someone to get that job.
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[pso]

actually you do have to take a civil service test and a basic phyiscal exam with the civil service dept. so please get your facts straight about our job..

[noone]

Physical?
Can't be that hard with the employees I have seen.
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[marbles]

Digi
Why did you leave? If the clowns that are there now are unhappy, why dont they get on to your job?

[2nd floor]

public safety is to be moving very sooner than later, and yes 200 N Franklin will be their new home.. if any employees/ or registered visitors need passes do it know before they move you will have to drive to get one

[got through]

What good are those passes any way? I could show a phony license, and how would the wacko know if it is really me or not? And is 200 N Franklin gonna want them anyway?

[DIGI]

ha marbles stop calling them clowns bozo i left for better opportunities but better does not mean grass is greener . and if they want to take my job they can take the test by the way bozo you talking about people who have families and are taxpayers what do you do accept label people.
DIGI:">
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[marbles]

You are still a clown Digi, just as much as they are

[DIGI]

i may be a clown but i least made a mark in this world and i can sleep at night . by the way what type of work you do? since you call hard working town workers clowns
do you stock shelves at stop&shop?
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Hard working???

[DIGI]

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Anyone hear about the NC Public Safey Officer that was arrested for identifying himself as a cop, flashing a shield and a gun, then attempting to rob a deli in Uniondale? What was this guy on?

[dudley]

FROM THE NY POST....
May 18, 2004 -- An off-duty public safety officer bent on robbing a Long Island deli apparently bit off more than he could chew when customers and employees foiled the attempt - and sent the would-be robber to the hospital.At 8:25 p.m. Sunday, Jimmy Victor, 24, ordered a plate of chicken and rice at the Vasquez Deli in Uniondale.

While the clerk rang up the order, Victor pulled out a .22-caliber semiautomatic pistol and ordered the employee into a back room, where at least 10 men were playing pool, police said.

Seeing the crowd, Victor quickly put the gun to the clerk's head, whipped out a Nassau County park ranger's shield, and ordered everybody to place their money on the pool table.

When some of the patrons refused, the gunman tried to blast a few shots around the crowded room, said Yenis Vasquez, whose family owns the deli.

The pistol jammed in his hands, however, giving the crowd of men an opportunity to subdue the ill-fated stickup man.

"They beat the crap out of him when he was trying to get away," Vasquez told The Post.

"They even crashed him with that chair," she added, pointing to a stainless-steel stool. When cops arrived, Victor, a public safety officer with Nassau County, was rushed to a nearby hospital. He was reported in stable condition yesterday.

Victor was charged with attempted robbery, criminal possession of a weapon and criminal impersonation. Bail was set at $200,000 at a hearing convened in his hospital room.

[what does this guy drisco]

IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY TO THE WRONG TURN WRONG ROOM NOW GO BACK! AS FOR THE PERP THAT HAD A JOB THAT PEOPLE HAD TRUST IN SHAME ON HIM BUT FURTHER MORE HOW LONG WAS HE ON THE JOB? DID HE GO THE BACK GROUND CHECK THAT SHOULD BE REQUIRED ?
DIGI:">

[pso2]

remember everyone, it was a NASSAU COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER, not TOH PUBLIC SAFETY. just want to make people aware of it....

[buffy]

Its that time of the year again where you can see the keystone cops riding up and down the beach on their ATVs dressed up like someone out of madmax............

[DIGI]

I wish I could go back to those atv's instead of sweating my privates off in a hot RMP and building smelling of urine. DiGi:">
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[Nasty]

That Whole Beach is Nasty! From Long Beach to Point Lookout, Disgusting!!!!

[KFR703]

Where moving sooner than later, our building failed the OSHA & Health inspection. New home unknown. thats all for now.

[DIGI]

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DIGI:">
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DPW in Merrick will be their new home.
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[DIGI]

IS THAT A JOKE OR THE TRUTH I THINK 2NDPCT TOWN PARK WOULD BE A NICE PLACE I LOVED THAT SECTOR IN OLD 211 AND 212
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[Hempvillage]

They aren't going to 200 North Franklin. That whole section of land is going to be redeveloped in the next year or so. Wait and see...........

[Vlg DPW]

I hear that Costco or Bjs is going there. Might as well stay where they are now.

[DIGI]

THEY NEED A DESCENT PLACE TO WORK PUBLIC SAFETY WILL ALWAYS BE AROUND .
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[PR]

As long as they are not over here with us. Put em at 350 front st!

[tt]

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[DIGI]

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[ova hea]

Looks like they are coming over here to 200 N franklin

[KFR703]

yes we are going over to 200 but there are alot of issues that are not resolved yet, for example we need to have handicapped accessable work areas, male/female locker rooms and restrooms, office space, classroom space, kitchen & meal room, and cant forget our D.O./ signal monitor desk with all the radio communications for the rest of the town. Dep. Comm Rottkamp is in charge of our moving, lets see what happens in the next 2 months...

[up there]

I hear they are going on the roof

[DIGI]

good it is time they get their space and a descent place good luck public safety on your new home

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[outside]

In a trailer in the parking lot.............

[2nd floor]

or maybe they put them at the cemetery... that would be a good final rest for them.

[PLANNING DEPARTMENT]

OUT OF THE ENTIRE TOWN Y IS PLANNING DISRUPTED?

[not planning]

planning is a bunch of poo poo heads

[RALPH CRANDOM]

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DENNIS MONET?????????????

[huh]

WHO?
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[KFR703]

CHECK OUT THIS MONTH'S BOARD MEETING, WE ARE ON THE AGENDA ABOUT ARE CURRENT AND FUTURE LOCATION. MORE TO FOLLOW.

[DIGI]

GET OFF THE DOPE PUBLIC SAFETY IS HERE TO STAY LET GET THE BOYS PEACE OFFICER STATUS SO THEY CAN DO THEIR JOB RIGHT.
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[maximiz91]

Hey Digi r u still at mcb or r u a sgt yet?

Guess who?

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NO MORE MCB I AM BACK ON PATROL AS FOR SGT MAYBE NEXT TIME TILL NOW CRUSING THE TIME AWAY AND BEING A SLAVE TO THE RADIO HOW IS PAPD
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[DIGI]

where is your gig know
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[maximizz91]

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[Oh My Gosh]

My goodness, man, did you ever hear of 'Spell check?'

[DIGI]

HAVE A COKE AND A SMILE AND GET OFF THIS PAGE!:">
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[tohps]

THE TIME FOR GETTING STATUS IS NOW, AFTER THE HORRIBLE KILLING OF A SUFFOLK BAY CONSTABLE, SHOWS US HOW MESSED UP THE WORLD IS. I STORIES OF OUR CLOSE CALLS ARE GETTING WORSE. I HOPE THE ADMINISTRATION, AND TOWN BOARD WILL HELP US ..

[No Way]

What do they need status for? To check I D tags? To come fill out a report when a park gets damaged? TO write a parking ticket?
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[maximizz91]

check your stats, most uniformed personal get killed in the line of duty while conducting a car stop :IE parking tickets. give them what they need.
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[No Way]

Public safety does not do car stops. If they do, they should not be. I know that I would not stop if they tried to pull me over.
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[maximizz91]

Yes that is true however, they do write parking tickets which if your a leo you would know that parking tickets (if the person comes into there presence) could escalate into something more serious. It happens more often then you think.

thank you for time.
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[NCPD Civilian]

The Nassau County Police Dep't has civilians that took tests and became parking enforcement aids.

They give out parking tickets, AND USE THEIR OWN CAR!! They get paid next to nothing, and many of them are female.

They are smart, and would never make themselves 'in the line of fire'. They are ready for an upgrade...great and dedicated bunch of people who are very, very underpaid.

By the way, I am NOT in their Title, I just know how hard they work, and how professional they are.

[REUPGRADE]

IF THEY FEEL THEY ARE UNDERPAID THEY CAN REQ CIVIL SERVICE TO LOOK AT THEIR JOB SPECIFICATIONS AND EVALUATE IF THEY DESERVE MORE MONEY.. THE POLICE DEPT WILL FIGHT THIS AS CIVILIANS ALWAYS HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING FROM POLICE BUDGET...BUT IF THEY DESERVE IT THEY WILL WIN...GO TO CIVIL SERVICE ..REQ PAPERWORK TO START...MIGHT HAVE TO GET FORMS FROM P AND A..SUFFOLK COUNTY EMPLOYEES PUT THEMSELVES IN FOR UPGRADES ALL THE TIME...

[NCPD Civilian]

We are very aware of the Civil Service Requirements. Our (and YOURS TOO, CB) Police Civilian President has filled that out a year ago, will have meeting soon with PD. You KNOW how long it takes once it gets to the local.

Our president gets 1 day excusal; the President of PUBLIC gets 1 day excusal to

[NCPD Civilian]

Ahem as I was saying before I had to reboot my PC; actually, the Public Safety's president Richard Bruich (sic)gets FULL excusal, having 45 members. The Police Civilian Unit President gets 1 DAY for 700 MEMBERS!!!!!!!

AND THEY ARE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY!!

Guess which one is Jane's pet?

[No Way]

They SHOULD NOT be doing car stops. Try catching me
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[NCPD Civilian]

If you are speaking about car stops with regard to the PEA's,they do not and would not do that.
I do not know about the Public Safety Officers inclination.

[DIGI]

IT IS A TRAGEDY FOR THAT BAY CONSTABLE OFFICER NEVER THINKING THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN IN THAT UPSCALE COMMUNITY. PSO SHOULD GET THE PROPER TOOLS TO WORK WITH . FROM MY PAST EXPERIENCE THEIR ARE MORONS OUT THEIR WHO WILL CHALANGE THE LAW AND TEST WHAT THEY CAN DO AND CAN NOT DO NOT THINKING OF THE OUT COME. NEVER ASSUME THAT NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN NO MATER WHERE YOU WORK
DIGI :">
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[On the inside]

This guy with 45 members and zero union experience is Janes #1 cheerleader. He has become the instant expert in the local, makingseveral key errors, all the while not learning what he needs to know.

His purpose as a local staff member is simple. He is to listen and report back to Jane anything suspicous. He is Janes little rat-boy, and in return he is promised a spot on her pitiful board.
I can't wait until Jerry L. sends them ALL back to their jobs, where they can no longer do damage to us union members. Breaush gotta go and even more important Jane must be sent back to work.

David Greene will be very upset next year.

[DGS 1]

THE PRELIMINARY DRAWWRINGS ARE IN FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY H.Q. LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF ROOM FOR A SMALL GROUP, THE CONFIGARATION IS ALMOST THE SAME AS THEIR PRESENT LOCATION.CONSTRUCTION HAS LREADY STARTED AT 200. GOOD LUCK GUYS.

Construction has started? WHere?

[i hear]

that they are gettng a small part of the basement, with most of it going to their commissioners office

[DIGI]

I AM GLAD THAT TOH PUBLIC SAFETY IS GETING THEIR HOME THEY NEED ONE JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT IN THE TOWN.GOOD LUCK ON YOUR NEW HOME.
LOVE DIGI:">
P.S. CAN YOU TELL ME WHO RETIRED ?
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[The Hidden Agenda]

Public saftey is a joke and he knows it. That's why he put an inexperienced guy in charge. The job is just a place to let the guy hide out, earn big money (so he can use it to donate and run his own campaign) and give Suozzi tips about upcoming fed investigations and the inside track on such things. His hand picked Assistant US Atty General - whatever his fancy title - Deputy County Executive of Public Saftey and whatever else - is nothing more than Suozzi's candidate to run against Dillon for District Attorney. Dillon is dogmeat anyway unless he starts indicting Suozzi's felonious administrators who he's not going to be hard to beat. It's not about beefing up public saftey - it's about looking good on paper for another Newsday fluff piece Monty will happily write - or some kid with a crayon which will have as much insight - and that's all. Suozzi and his managment team is THAT superficial.

[agenda]

First off, wrong public safety jackass. Second, safety is spelled S A F E T Y, not S A F T E Y, jackass.

[The point for the schooly]

Aren't they talking about the Town Public Safety and not Nassau County Public safety? Suozzi has nothing to do with the Town Public Safety.

[correct - for the moment]

Suozzi has NOTHING TO DO WITH the Town of Hempstead Public Safety Department. NOTHING TO DO WITH IT! Clown! :">

[Forget these guys]

But don't even bother. you are not dealing with a normal mind. They don't have the mentality to grasp these issues. Go to another thread where you might find people who got out of high school. They will never understand the point of consolidation and they can't see beyond their bottle of beer. They won't get it until they are out of jobs - and then - maybe not even at that point. Problem is, even this class of person is allowed to vote and these are the people who vote for Suozzi - it's the intelligence level he shoots for.

[DGS 1]

THE CONSTRUCTION AT 200 NORTH FRANKLIN WILL BEGIN ON MONDAY THE WHOLE PROJECT IS SUPPOSE TO LAST NO LONGER THAN 8 WEEKS. PUBLIC SAFETY SHOULD START MOVING OVER AROUND MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER.

[PS]

WOO HOO!!!!!

[again]

I heard two of their guys went to blows the other day

[KFR703]

YEAH, DO YOU BELIEVE IT WAS ALL OVER A FELLOW EMPLOYEE THAT CLAIMED EYES WERE ROLLED AT (HER) , BUT NOTHING WILL HAPPEN JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE OVER HERE. MORE TO COME IM SURE

[again]

Apparently, this person has been starting trouble for a while now. The guy should have pressed charges if it was unprovoked. Rolling eyes at someone is a reason to have a physical altercation with someone?

[average citizen]

Public Safety Officers used to be present in all the Parks in the Nassau County System. They are now nonexistent in the three parks where they are most needed: Nickerson Beach Park, Wantagh Park and Battle Row. I guess no one cares that families are staying overnight in all three of these parks on a regular basis. In both the campgrounds there are many families with children spending time and boaters and their families sleep on their boats in the Wantagh Park Marina. Don't they deserve protection?

[DIGI]

YES DIGI IS BACK WHAT HAPPEN THIS TIME? NO MORE FIGHTING , LETS JUST GET ALONG . I HEARD THAT NASSAU COMMUNITY COLLEGE PUBLIC SAFETY WILL PROBALY GET THEIR PEACE OFFICER STATUS THEY NEED IT . KFR 703 LETS TRY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER IT SEEMS THAT THE DIRTY UNDER IS MAKING IT ONLINE ACT PROFESSIONAL NOT A TOWN HALL SOAP OPERA
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[Kyle]

Digi, KFR-703 and Alert, keep up the good work. Also to you old timers, we lost one of our own on 9-11, Horace Passananti of Uniondale, worked as a Seasonal PSO with us in the very early 1970s in the Second Precinct. Tragically, he was a VP for Marsh-McClenan Tower One - 95th Floor and his remains were never recovered. RIP Horace. I too miss TOH DPS.

[703]

KYLE
YOU ALWAYS COME UP WITH THE OLD FACTS - WE WISH YOU WERE STILL HERE ALSO - YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO COULD CONTORL THESE IDIOTS - WE ARE HEADING DOWN THE TOILET AND THE TOP IS LETTING IT HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID A CERTAIN FEW WHO MIGHT SCREAM DISCRIMINATION - SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE DON'T BELONG HERE ANYWAY - TALK TO YOU SOON KYLE

[Well]

What was the final outcome of this? What kind of disciplinary action has been taken against the two officers involved? Was either of them fired?
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[Little John]

The DPS is a great place to work, or it was a great place to work, incompetence at the top together with mustard seed for b*lls caused us to lose faith in our Job. We need the support and backing of our bosses, not just lip service. You know who just wants a big bathroom, and you know who else just needs a telephone and a 3 hour lunch to roam around with the ladies. I'm going to start looking soon, cause this job cant last, or can it? Let's hold on together, the pay is better than OK, you never work up a sweat (except at almost the very top).

[Truthsayer]

Lets all relax, remember this is our job, and its a great job. Sure it was better years gone bye, but its what we have now that counts. If we worried about what was expected from us instead of what the PSO next to us is doing, we'd all be a lot better off. As someone once said, "let's give credit where credit is due", we are reasonably well respected, and respect comes from within. Let's give the system a chance.

Keep smiling, remember every other Tuesday it's PAY DAY. Let's shape up those uniforms we get for free!(clean, pressed, and all one style on each tour). Be Proud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[pso 2]

yes truthsayer & little john our job would be alot better ounce the bosses support us, and once those officers that always complain everything at H.Q no matter what the issue, their assignment, their RMP, their meal time, etc once they stop it will get better. o yeah the seniority issue is and old one but im glad their trying to follow it but thier are still some issues with it, you all know what i mean just like why some of us dont get hoildays or overtime, but certain officer's within a click get it all. if we are going to follow seniority follow it 100 percent.

[DIGI]

RELAX GUYS IT SOME LIKE LITTLE THINGS ARE JUST GETTING OUT OF HAND I WORK FOR A BIG DEPARTMENT AND A MAYOR THAT BS THE AIRWAYS THAT CRIME IS DOWN AND WE HAVE NO MONEY TO GIVE THE COPS RAISES YEAH RIGHT CRIME IS GO THRU THE ROOF GUN COLLARS ARE UP AND TWO OF MY GUYS HAD TO OPEN UP ON A PERP LAST WEEK BECAUSE HE OPEN UP ON THEM AND STADIUM BUILD WITH WHAT DREAMS.LET ME TELL YOU I GO THRU THE RROJECTS EVERY NIGHT YOU WANT TO TRADE. AS ONE SGT SAID TO ME OVER THEIR LETS GO HOME AND COLLECT OUR PENTION . YOU GUYS LETS THIS GET ALONG YOU ONLY HAVE EACH OTHER OUT THEIR.
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[Truthsayer]

I don't wish to appear trite, but, please use a dictionary or just review what you write, thanks,
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[Big One]

Truthsayer
It seems you are one of the big cry babies everyone talks about - why else would you complain about ot or holidays - most people don't want to work the holidays!
You must be in the Town Hall day click with the big cry baby - why don't you just shut up and do your job! Or maybe your one of the ones who complain to the boss all the time so you get your way - you talk about seniority - most people don't have any and think they deserve so much - no wonder we never get status - Town Hall is sick of all the crying from people like you

[Truthsayer]

Hey jerk o**, I wasn't the one complaining about OT, but now that you mention it, the office keeps giving it to administration favorites. Ass kissing is what makes the world go around. GET WITH IT.
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[dunkin donuts]

maybe you need coffee thrown on you, to see the big picture

[Tijuana Tom]

I was not guilt of that, but even though I put on some weight, I still am in pretty good enough shape to deck your ass. Call me out and well see. Sempre fidelity!:"> :"> :">

[tell it like it is]

the only way to get you outside ,would be to roll you

[PSO III]

Not for anything, but we are barking up the wrong trees, we shouldn't be wasting our time and sd9's on blasting each other, we are career civil service workers, the problem still is the selfish i'm the king (and his heir to the chair) exec mismanagement hold overs from the Gulotta(#1)-Parola(#2)Hack years. Lets keep reminding them that we are people too! People with families, People that have lives that cant be moved around at there whim. Schedule changes, day off changes and assignment changes are importment to me too. Im going to pass around w/ car drivers a petition to have another general meeting. Lets have one of our reps set it up.

[pso I]

PSO III
I GUESS YOU HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND MUCH - WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY REPS FOR A WHILE - THE ONLY ONES WE HAVE ARE OUT FOR THEM SELVES - WHAT HAPPEN DID YOU GET A TOUR CHANGE - OTHERWISE YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO ANYONE ELSE - EVERYONE IS SELFISH - THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE JOB JUST THEMSELVES - LIKE YOU

[starbucks]

That is what the department has been brought to?

[unhappy]

IT IS A SHAME THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS BEING RULED BY SIX, OR SEVEN INDIVIDUALES WHO THINK THAT THEY CAN INTIMIDATE, AND THREATEN FELLOW EMPLOYEES, AND THEIR FAMILIES,FOR NOT THINKING LIKE THEM.
EXAMPLE:HAVE COFFEE THROWN IN YOUR FACE!!!
WE SHORE HAVE COME A LONG WAY!!!!!!!!!
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[starbucks]

Was the coffee hot? Did the person get burnt by it? Any charges brought up? The guy should be fired!!!

[DIGI]

i think everybody should come down before they do something that they might regret and loosing their job or worse get locked up. my suggestion is that you guys get intouch with a union repersenative talk it over and the then put it on paper that including grievances. take it Thur the chain of command . no coffee throwing remember you are responsible for your own actions.
digi
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[town hall observer]

And you Mr. Digi are responsible for your horrific grammar, spelling and syntax. Back to High School !

[pso 2]

the way to fix this problem is very simple simply get rid of the non civil service officers. I.E. PSA officers, SSA officers, And PT PSO officers, and a couple of those gold shields that don't support us. they know who they are!!! and watch our problems disappear, because the problem is that these people cant do what we can do, for example go on patrol, write tickets or summons, or handle special assignments. we have a stong allaince on our tour and we know what to expect from each other, the day tour is full of phony, liars, back stabbers, cheaters, losers, wannabes.

[alliance]

How can you say you have a strong alliance on your tour when you have guys fighting eachother and throwing coffee around? Maybe the 4th floor should arm everyone one with a large cup of Joe everyday

[pso 2]

we do have an alliance, have any of you been invited to one of our get to gethers, probably not just and why think about remember people can lose their cool from time to time, especially when there family is involved. anyone would :">

[unhappy]

PSO. II, IF YOU REALLY THINK THE WAY TO FIX PUBLIC SAFETY IS BY GETTING RID OF PSA.;SSA;AND PART TIMERS,THEN MANAGEMENT WOULD HAVE TO REPLACE THEM, AND I FOR ONE DO NOT WANT TO GIVE UP MY NIGHT PAY!! SO THINK BEFORE YOU TALK!!!
AND FOR GOING OUT AND WRITING TICKETS,AND PATROLLING WE DON'T DO THAT NOW,AND WHY DO YOU THINK WE WOULD START??? WE WILL NEVER HAVE ALLIANCE AS LONG AS WE HAVE TWO OFFICERS WHO THINK THAT EVERYONE IS BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO THEM.
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[ncps]

Sounds like the only way to solve these problems and fix the department is to get rid of these two officers. I dont think dating a person on your job that you work with all the time is a really good idea. It could create alot of problems if you ask me. Over here one of them would have to switch shifts or move to another department.

[3rd platoon]

this is for the following user names: again, 703, well, unhappy, starbucks, alliance, ncps and any one else. what you dont realize is the difference between man and mice. the officer who threw coffee that all of you are criticizing stood up for every one when he was union rep, stood up to management to make things better and stood up strong when you all were afraid. its real easy to talk about people but, what have you all done? nothing (but talk). the coffee thrower is the second smallest guy in the dept and has always been ready to defend any one who was wronged. he is not going to be fired, he will not kiss ass and he is not afraid like you babies. the coffee thrower is at the top of the food chain. he is not all mouth like you guys. he knows who his friends are and who all of you are. because a coward can not hide, a kiss ass can be seen in crowd and fear gives off the aroma of prey.
whats up digi and kyle miss you guys.

[My Rep]

So what he was union rep. He should know better than do act this way. The difference between man and mice? Are you for real? What kind of " man" throws coffee at someone? Just FYI, he COULD have been fired, he DID assault someone!

[day tour]

hey check the law books, it is not an assault and no one gets fired. so stop with the baby bull. its over, done with. all you cry babies wish you were respected. i wish i could work with the 3-11 tour. they work well together and management loves them. just dont step out of line, they will not run to the boss. they clean up thier own back yard. unlike some people

[toh]

hey officers whats with the "those people" and the "cry discrimination" remarks?. sounds like racism?

[3rd platoon]

my rep, are you! for real? what do you know about men? if you want to see a real man get out from behind your desk and take a look at the 1st & 3rd platoons. or better yet come out on patrol! oh i forgot your not speaking to us any more. sissy

[pistoff]

you got to be kidding ,the only person he cares about
is himself, and you call that standing up maybe if he stood on couple off phone books.He'll look good for trick or treating ,as mini officer,but you better go with him so you can ring the bells.

[PatSupv]

It is fascinating how people spend so much time talking about things that do not involve them. A coffee cup? A relationship? Is this what makes you guys tick? The sad fact of the matter is that this board is being perpetuated by probably the three most despised people on the 2nd Platoon (Weekends Excluded). It is amazing how much they talk about everyone else but deviate from the things that need discussion, their behavior, or should I say lack of. Approximately one week ago several officers listened to one officer explain how he thinks two other officers on the day tour (his known affiliates) are ridiculous, but then all three of them are observed hanging out (probably trying to figure out how to cause more trouble.) I'd rather have a friend like 3rd platoon who will at least give it to me as it is and be there when needed then have friends that talk about me behind my back on an insane level. Another interesting question is how come we spend so much time talking about a coffee cup and not the idiocies that occur on the Town Hall tour. I have witnessed a lot worse than a coffee cup on that tour and it is sad that that is the tour that represents our department. But again, if it wasn't for those two to three people in that building causing problems...so I suggest before members or should I say "outcasts" of other tour begin running their mouths regarding issues on the other tours, they should reexamine their lives, or once again, lack of, and see what problems they cause and begin to fathom why no one trusts them, or for that matter, even stomach them. Get rid off those members and see how fast things shape up in Town Hall.

[Post 19]

Careful careful, dont be a kiss ass. Because,
" a kiss ass can be seen in crowd and fear gives off the aroma of prey"

[let it die]

does everyone see what we have become?? why must we talk about and belittle each other? we should all be able to talk about our problems to one another. ya know groups or clicks will never die, because people tend to lefitate of hangout with the people they feel comfortable with, or have the same interestes, hobbies, or values. i use to hear alot about certain people on all the tours, but i was told one good thing by a senior officer of our dept, and that was don't let other people tell you how to judge people, you have to make your own decision from what you see on how you are treated. ya know and it has worked for me, most of the people that are talked about on here have not hurt me directly, as for the officer that talk about those other two from town hall on that sunday, i only take half of what he said with a grain of salt. those two guys have never done me wrong, probally sometimes misunterstood, or do things the wrong way, put as for people they are actually nice guys to talk to, and beleve it or not they are not the major problem, the officer who just came back from over seas and talk about them and others is. all i ask from everyone is to look at the big picture and see what has happened or changed in our dept in the past couple of months. when certain people were gone there were no problems with anybody or should i say major problems, just the usual he said she said stuff which is normal at any work place. so again everyone let this problem die out. just like anything else the people will get bored and stop writing and maybe get back to working things out on a one on one basis. remember everone make your own judgement on someone don't let others make them for you..

[Dont worry]

i love the drama can i join in the fun