View Full Version : 42.3% tax increase?
nassau boy
08-09-2005, 08:30 PM
Several people have agreed with the TV ad that states that the Dems have raised taxes more than 42%.
One person here asked how that number was determined, but none of the people who agree with it have provided an explanation. Does anyone care to explain?
Peterson
08-09-2005, 08:52 PM
Go ask Suozzola about the increase. I will be sleeping in the meantime.
finally a brain
08-09-2005, 09:16 PM
As a county worker in another dept finally I see someone with a brain replying on here. Wouldnt you rather make a decent salary without HAVING to do the OT? A few people hit the big 230.000 plus and they want to put a stop to that. Do the rest of you care? Are you going to say no so someone else can LIVE THERE? Most do a normal amt of Ot without having to give up family life. Life passes by too fast to have to be there 70 or 80 hrs a week...dont miss too many Tball or soccer games....before you know it ...they will be gone. Make a decent living for a 40 hr week and there will ALWAYS be some OT.
To young to retire
08-09-2005, 10:42 PM
While you busy doing your work at your county job rest assure that you'll be doing my work too. See I'm tired, tired, tired after putting in way to much time for little pay. Lord knows I need the rest and I'm glad that you have all that extra energy to spare what with Tball and soccer games. So for the time being I'll just rest my eyes knowing you'll be doing the work for two. Peace out my little minion
nassau boy
08-09-2005, 11:06 PM
Wow. So far there have been over 88 views of my question, (although some are probably the same people looking several times), but not a single person has offered an answer to my question or even addressed it. The only responses seem to be attempts to change the subject.
A number of people in other threads said they agreed with the 42% figure, so if they agree with it they must know how it was determined. What's the deal?
Let's hope only this results in only legitimate, civilized and mature replies...
MathWizz
08-10-2005, 02:37 AM
Here's the equation for how you get to 42%:
Step One:
Go to PArty HQ on Post Avenue with other "political strategists" like yourself.
Step Two:
After a quick go-round of how badly the machine is treating you these days, after years and years of waiting in the chairs, yadda, yadda, yadda...
Step Three:
Add up 12%, and 11% and 19%
(which are the increases in the COUNTY PORTION of the property tax for years 2000, 2001, and 2002
- an average of $249 total for those of you keeping score at home)
and you get "the mythical 42%" - point - something that is such a great sound bite.
Step Four:
Realize this is, in Flatbush Avenue terminology, "alls you got" for a message, and hold your head up high and:
REPEAT
REPEAT
REPEAT... and so on and so forth.
It;s called "Fear and Loathing in Nassau County" starring Greg P, in a limited role.
Or as the Dustin Hoffman " Captain Hook" used to say,
"Bad Form, Jack, bad form!"
Tax 05
08-10-2005, 05:07 PM
Do you mean the 4 1/2 % energy tax that will be tacked on any fule source used in your home??? People with fire places start heating their homes with fire wood (taxable also) and cause air quality to decline, and were back allright, Bring Nassau Back Team
Nassau to the smoke clogged overcrowded slums our grandparents worked so hard to escape. What a dream team!
nassau boy
08-10-2005, 08:33 PM
I'd like to thank the ONE person out of over 300 who tried to provide an actual reply to my question. I guess since he/she explained that it was a bogus number and no one disputed or corrected it, it must be a bogus number.
So someone made a commercial with an apparently fabricated number, a lie, and people who had no idea if it was legit or not jumped on the bandwagon just because they are on the same political side.
That's pretty disillusioning coming from a group of people who pride themselves on criticizing fraud, abuse and lying....
Please resist the urge to reply with juvenile comebacks or unrelated comments. If you're not adult enough to speak on a topic, just leave it alone.
There is no 4.5% energy tax now or planned for the future in Nassau. Move to Suffolk if you want to pay an energy tax. They have one.
Energy Tax
08-10-2005, 09:58 PM
at least thats what our dem legislator stated in a room full of people being coached on how to challange their assessment. As put
"it is a tax that they will have to right to enact should it be needed. The Bond rating agencies know it, the CE knows it, and his legislative hacks approved it, "as a cost cutting measure". Note all the feelers out there every now and then about the sales tax being down, when summers over and the gas tax fall's, and there is no money left to shop at the mall's???? Guess what sneaky little preapproved tax gets slipped in?? the energy tax, combine that with a proposed income tax by that moron and your working for the left wing state of Suozziland, 24/7 365 days a year.At that point we all quit our job's close our businesses, shift assest's off shore and apply for section 8 vouchers in Avalon bay, the housing block, in the great City of Glen Cove and we can all window shop in the concrete jungle called "downtown Glen Cove"
Just read the budget approved by the legislator. I could be wrong, or possibly like other documents in Nassau County are fradulant.
And in reguards to the property tax's mine, up 40 plus %. So someone is telling the truth and someone someis a big fat liar. Can I now go to the County assessor and file a lawsuit that due to misinformation and misrepresentation they start all over again?? If it's wrong, and my tax bill tell's me otherwise then I think they owe me and quite a few others our back tax'es with interest.
Zoomdoggie
08-10-2005, 10:01 PM
Compared a few of the largest County tax items I paid in 2001 compared those I paid in 2004. Here is a partial list:
General Purposes And Parks up 43.54%
NCC up 40.22%
Police & Headquaters up 59.56%
County Sewage up 22.42%
nassau boy
08-10-2005, 10:40 PM
All I'm looking for is a formula adding up to 42.3% across all county residents. That's what the ad claims. Some people had their taxes raised more than others, but the ad implies that the overall increase among all county residents was 42.3%.
I'm not going to argue with it if its reasonable. I just want to know if its accurate.
Here's something else I don't understand. If taxes went way up because re-assessments had not been done in a long time, doesn't that explain why there was a sudden large jump in property taxes? If re-assessments had been done at regular intervals over the last 20 or 30 years, wouldn't there have been smaller, regular increases each time, which would have left us at the same point we're at now? It just seems like a huge increase because it happened all at once.
Its like if your boss didn't give you a raise for 10 years, and then he suddenly gave you a 40% raise. You'd end up at the same level as if he gave you a 3.4% raise each year, but because you got it all at once he tries to convince you to be happy that you got a HUGE raise.
By george you got it
08-12-2005, 02:53 AM
So if that boss you mentioned gives everyone a raise, not just you, do you feel like you are earning more than everyone else?
Of course not - and that's the non-sequitur inherent in the reassessment - NOT EVERYONES TAXES WENT UP WHEN THEIR VALUE WENT UP (WAS REASSESSED) because EVERYONE was Reassessed at the same time.
And 40%?? One guy told me that his taxes went from $4000 to $6000, and he thinks thats too much (40%)!
But his home assessed value went from $400,000 to $795,000 and he's complaining?!?!?!?!!?
That's really chutzpah, 'cause he's STILL under assessed ! !
And has water views to boot!
Comptroller Insider
08-12-2005, 08:21 PM
In the beginning of his term, Suozzi raised the county tax 20%. Depending on where you live, the county tax only makes up 10-20% of your total tax. Taxes have gone so high because school taxes are out of control, and property values have skyrocketed.
Insider RU Kidding
08-12-2005, 09:01 PM
While CE SWAZEEEE, as the swells in NYC like to pronounce his name, his developer friends out here like to refer to him as their 24/7 ATM, fully loaded with taxpayer dollars.
Did anyone check CE TS re-assessment and taxes on his newly purchased $1 million plus home in Glen Cove, don't be shocked in what you see.
Did anyone check CE TS re-assessment and taxes on his newly purchased $1 million plus home in Glen Cove, don't be shocked in what you see.
The CE new address is listed in the phone book, but does not appear on the NC tax assessors web site, does anyone know why, or is the CE getting a free ride?
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