re; CO's contract---please tell me this isnt true

[just a hack]

please tell me this isnt true-------

Johnny Boy Duer was on vacation in pennsylvania during the contract negotiations that got the co's their new contract?
he came back to sign the contract with suozzola, got his picture taken and zipped back to pennsylvania when the news hit the floors to avoid having to answer for ot caps and give backs?

please please please tell me this isnt true?!?!?!?!

[popper]

:twisted: :twisted: :evil:

[give backs too much]

we keep giving, they will keep closing floors and posts.

[INTESTINES]

they should hand out a bottle of vaseline with this contract proposal!

[Notmybunghole]

Let me lay out some facts as I see them. The contract on the whole has some drawbacks. The fact that it is back loaded isn't going to help anyone get a woodie. But, on the other hand if you look at where you stand in the mix, it might be better than okay. For example, if your a midnight officer at top pay. This contract is a home run. Yes, the overtime rate will decrease over the life of the agreement, then you'll be making true time and a half. It's not the end of times. Forget the pop! You have to look at the big picture, you'll be making $90,000 to walk in the door. With night diff, holiday, and any overtime, making well over $100,000!! Let's be real boys and girls, look deep inside and tell me your not getting your money's worth! Who knows if the pop will thrive forever, you can't rely on it. Make more money for less hours incured. Then, add the pop to your total. The overtime cap is still pretty good if you can double your max rate! The sad fact is, if the contract is kicked back in Suozzi's face, we may not see anything for a very long time!

[snapperhead]

look at the big pic is right on the $$. true you will lose a few bucks on the o.t. rate, but thats if the o.t. is there to work. work less, get paid more in base salary, go home to see your wife, or the neighbors wife. you prob will not get much more than is proposed now. :wink:

[another hack]

to vote against a contract with guaranteed raises and other benefit issues is ridiculous!! the ot can go away at any time, but the higher rate of pay will stay forever as will the benefits.
you vote against this contract and you'll regret it ----wake up and smell the coffee.

[Johnny (Wayne) Duer]

please tell me this isnt true-------

Johnny Boy Duer was on vacation in pennsylvania during the contract negotiations that got the co's their new contract?
he came back to sign the contract with suozzola, got his picture taken and zipped back to pennsylvania when the news hit the floors to avoid having to answer for ot caps and give backs?

please please please tell me this isnt true?!?!?!?! :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: Sorry guys and girls.... I am a little red faced and embarrassed about this gettting out, but it is definetly NOT true....... I was never, and I repeat never intentionally in Pennsylvania on vacation with my family all weekend while my boys were finalizing my contract with Tommy Boy for me......Anyone who doesnt believe me can check the EZPass you bought for me and see that I was actually Upstate.....sorry for the inconvenience, I know how fast rumors get started on "the tiers"...by the way, my wife and kids are really mad because I missed the rodeo stampede Monday morning when I had to sign my contract......thankfully I made it back for the rocking horse races later on that afternoon!!!! :P :P :P Hi Ho Silver....Away!!!!!!!!!

[on the tiers]

just in case you haven't relized, or aware of, but we lost b5, they are trying to close b4, what is next. So, as for rumors on the tiers, the way things are going, there will be a real estate sign in front of the B building by summers end

[zyxw]

The percentages were better in the last contract, and the county was dead broke.

[INTESTINES]

hey it's a good contract if u r at top pay. BUT WHAT ABOUT IF YOU'RE NOT?? U WILL BE LOSING MONEY! I HAVE A HOUSE AND FAMILY TO SUPPORT! I CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE MONEY! ALL THIS CONTRACT WILL DO FOR A GUY UNDER TOP PAY IS GIVE HIM AN APPROX. INCREASE OF $18OO.00 A YEAR. THAT PUTS ME AT $63K. HOW THE F**K AM I SUPPOSED TO LIVE OFF OF THAT? THIS DEPT. NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT THE GUYS WITH LESS TIME, (THE FUTURE OF THE DEPT.), AND START THROWIN THEM A BONE! F**K YOU DUER & ANYONE ELSE WHO VOTES YES!!

HOT SOUP!!

[just a hack]

f**k the new guys, hit some punches and catch up. where were you 'new' guys when we were all locked in for 16 hours a day with no way out for a lot less money than we're making now? the last contract was a catchup one to get us on par with everyone else on this sh**ty island. im voting yes yes yes.
you got one thing right though, screw duer
this contract is a step in the right direction---ot formula's or not, but from what im hearing duer was in the mist the whole time---leaveing the grunt work for somebody else-----from what im hearing he's checking out places to retire now anyway.......
USELESS

[6yr hack]

hey it's a good contract if u r at top pay. BUT WHAT ABOUT IF YOU'RE NOT?? U WILL BE LOSING MONEY! I HAVE A HOUSE AND FAMILY TO SUPPORT! I CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE MONEY! ALL THIS CONTRACT WILL DO FOR A GUY UNDER TOP PAY IS GIVE HIM AN APPROX. INCREASE OF $18OO.00 A YEAR. THAT PUTS ME AT $63K. HOW THE F**K AM I SUPPOSED TO LIVE OFF OF THAT? THIS DEPT. NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT THE GUYS WITH LESS TIME, (THE FUTURE OF THE DEPT.), AND START THROWIN THEM A BONE! F**K YOU DUER & ANYONE ELSE WHO VOTES YES!!

HOT SOUP!!
in 4 years you wil be at 88,700 walking in the door. We'd have to be the biggest idiots who ever lived to shoot this down. OT is a privledge and you should apprecieate it when it is there and not bitch when you dont. i'm in the same boat as you paywise and i can live on another $1800.

By the way shoa should set up a rant on their website so the public doesnt think we are all greedy idiots like the guy i quoted

[not a 6year hack]

first off, jackass, how many kids do you have. Next question, how many of us, come here, and say, I can't wait to do a double. The reason soo many of us made decent money was to survive on this island. In case you haven't relized, the price of gas, heatin oil, and pretty much everything around us is always going up. How about you make a provision in the new contract that all cost of living expenses be held till 2007, just like most of the so called perks in this new contract. Before you were here, we worked for about 4 years without a new deal, and we, are willing to do it again. Overtime is not a privledge, like you state, you moron. How many of us were getting ordered as a privledge. How about addressing the current problems, with post closings, single officer hospital posts, single officer gatehouse post. Please, don't pat yourself on the back with your six year itch.

[Impeach Do Nothing Duer!]

At least Fat Mike left his wife and kids and came back from vacation when the last contract negotiations were being finalized.... I cant believe Do Nothing Duer has that little respect for his position and the members of our union......Impeach Him!!!!

[on the pop(for less)]

At least Fat Mike left his wife and kids and came back from vacation when the last contract negotiations were being finalized.... I cant believe Do Nothing Duer has that little respect for his position and the members of our union......Impeach Him!!!! Its a joke...this P.O.S contract they got us.....get rid of em all......Bruce Jennings could run a better union............................. "thank you, Sir!" :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

[Professional]

It is time for certain Correction Officers to stop whining, moaning, complaining and acting like "spoiled" children. I say "spoiled" children because most children I know act more like adults than the people I work with. Try showing respect to the job and fellow officers and people will respect you. By posting on this forum with bickering, degrading insults and airing dirty laundry you only demean the "good officers" who would not lower themselves to your standards. Offer solid, good constructive criticism in a professional manner. Stop embarassing the good officers in gray with your petty name calling. How would you enjoy your friends and family members reading online such rude comments about you? It is uncalled for and rude. It is time to grow up and use some empathy.

[Anonymous Officer]

It is time for certain Correction Officers to stop whining, moaning, complaining and acting like "spoiled" children. I say "spoiled" children because most children I know act more like adults than the people I work with. Try showing respect to the job and fellow officers and people will respect you. By posting on this forum with bickering, degrading insults and airing dirty laundry you only demean the "good officers" who would not lower themselves to your standards. Offer solid, good constructive criticism in a professional manner. Stop embarassing the good officers in gray with your petty name calling. How would you enjoy your friends and family members reading online such rude comments about you? It is uncalled for and rude. It is time to grow up and use some empathy.Whoever you are, you should post your name because that was the best comment I have ever read on this board or any others......be proud, and the job(and the union) needs more people like you!

[Hackelhead]

I don't know how this whole thing is going to turn out. I suspect that the contract is going to pass by a large margin. The best part is everyone you talk to says to your face, vote no. But, mark my words, those same people will vote yes when there behind curtain number one. Then they'll come out and say they voted no. I can't wait for the special meetings at the hall! Bring a cooler, and some boxing gloves and let the games begin!!!!

[geust]

I don't know how this whole thing is going to turn out. I suspect that the contract is going to pass by a large margin. The best part is everyone you talk to says to your face, vote no. But, mark my words, those same people will vote yes when there behind curtain number one. Then they'll come out and say they voted no. I can't wait for the special meetings at the hall! Bring a cooler, and some boxing gloves and let the games begin!!!!

just like everyone swears they didn't vote for duer!!!!! just kidding It should be a good meeting hopefully more than 20 people show up

[snapperhead]

i wonder if 523 or the shuttle would give me a ride to the meeting, cause my hole still urts a little from the last hosing we took..thank you sir, may i have another !! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol:

[suffolk hack]

hey whats up fellas .i am a suffolk brother hack and i have to say this sounds like a good contract ..man our freakin union prez is a fat piece of shit stuffin his face on our union dues ..i dont know how many years on the job you guys have to do to make top pay but your top pay on mids walkin in the door ( 90,000 ) ...wow!!! our midnighter which i am 1 of ...at top pay ...5 steps ...is just about 75000... and i am being generous !!! we need a contract like you guys are getting offered ..i have to work over 65 o/ts to break 100000 $ ..what we really need is a copy of your previous and present contracts so our fat ass prez can use them as barganing tools for us ..we have been w/out a contract since jan 2004 ...and our county conciders us the red headed step children ...they give everything to cops and deps but we get shit ...i dont know ..i know i am lookin in from the outside but it seems like your union prez is doin the right thing for u. maybe i am wrong ..anyway goodluck fellas ...

[ed778]

CO's and cops deserve high pay. They can't pay them enough to do those jobs and dealing with the animals they deal with on a daily basis.

[another hack]

How can you guys keep complaining about this overtime issue like its the end of the world? Overtime can dry up at any time. Get the base pay and benefits up, and the OT will follow in suit. Even if ot's paid at a lower percentage youre still getting paid at a higher base pay, so youre making out.
Stop believing all the naysayers and get your asses in the booth and vote yes (you know you will anyway). You know what'll happen if you dont? We'll be picketing (all 5 people that do) and we'll end up eating more at the next agreement. Guaranteed we'll be eating more zeroes and not seeing the bennies.

[another hack]

yes its true that useless f**k Duer has been out of town this whole time (while they negotiated, and this whole week while the heat is on and people are tearing this contract apart)
DUER NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED!!-----even during the bad times last contract at least fat mike stayed in town and took the heat.
Duer will be back to wave his hand and say "hey we have a contract!!" then he'll disappear and we'll never ever see him again.
do us all a favor johnny boy----retire now or go hide on midnights because youre useless either way!!
VOTE YES ON THE CONTRACT, VOTE NO ON DUER!!

[another another hack]

If we impeach duer, who is left to run our union? the 2 headed monster of sully and zorn? sounds like we need mike adams back!

[notattoppay]

these are the facts

its not so much the OT rate it is the HOLIDAY RATE u should be worried about take the OT leave the HOLIDAY pay
the reason u get a high rate is a combo of reasons
1 where u work its a hell hole
2 u have to work holidays (so at least be well compensated)
3 the reason they give us that is so if you have to work and be away from your family on (sometimes) all holidays its worth it

but then again if you have a day job u dont care or are at top pay who cares less

if u think u are going to a bonus for not banging then u should come to work in shorts and change in that new locker room we got in 2001

COPS
when we get what they get then we can give back what they give back ie,
1 sick day 1 vacation day every pay period
night diff starts at 11am not for new hiree but for the vets it does
they dont get ordered to stay on holidays
they work outside in fresh air
they dont have to be with skids 8-16 hours a day
they dont work in mold, dirt, scum, leaks, etc. etc.

the real deal is there are a million reasons to argue our case the union needs to talk to the men and women and find the answers

dont forget most of ur union reps are at top pay and on midnites
its run by bosses for bosses
they should tell Tom we cant trust the sheriff giving us any thing look what happened with the locker room

[snapperhead]

forget the locker room. I would rather change at home than get bugs an roaches in my shorts !! o brother. :x :x just vote yes so i can have some steak with my beans and rice..o lay !!

[notattoppay]

first of all jackass stop whinning about getting ordered every day that was the best thing that ever happened 4 u u were 21, 24, 27, so u were forced to make money whaaaa thats why u have a house u bought for 125- 200 and prob kept u from being on the other side of the bars plus............................ there was NO I'll say it again NO SLA u could bang all u wanted so stop crying
u same guys sign up every day........................
WHER WAS I...... I WAS BANGING 20 year olds at nass. comm. and drinking my balls off, runnin from the cops

[notattoppay]

when will u guys get the clue we are a union we should fight like one if u only look out for ur self then get a non union job
or become a boss they have locker room
its not about the locker room its about the sheriff not abiding by the contract and the union doing squat
wheres the beef the B building OM wheres my meal money
its all a joke its a done deal already it u go to meetings all u will get is a stroke job bring beer have fun its over
BY THE WAY THAT 12% will be gone on next contract cause the cops dont get it

[Boneheads]

Times have changed, the county is trying to be more fiscally responsible. Yes, we got more last time around when the county was broke. But, we had public support! We were working without a contract for more than a few years. This time around is much different, we don't have public support. People are fed up with the taxes in Nassau, and who could blame them. NIFA is watching, the public is crying, and Suozzi is not biting. People, wake up! Even if we vote this proposal in, the legislature could still say it's too generous and vote it down!

[another hack]

hey notattop you must have been the top of the class at levittown high school. ive never seen actual moronspeak put down in words.
we are a union? what union? anytime we have to make a stand and do something, there's tops 10 guys there. no one wants their names attached to anything, including this anonymous forum.
all i see is "i want this and i want that" -----lets see how manypeople turn up at these meetings to bitch and put a face to their gripes. plus i guarantee this contract gets voted in by at least 90% all of us will just go in and vote for the money.
what would you do if you had a real job with real work to worry about?

[happy hack]

THE TWO HEADED MONSTER OF ZORN AND SULLIVAN HAS AND IS THE ONLY REASON OUR UNION WAS ABLE TO GET A CONTRACT AS WELL AS WELL AS WIN THE MAJORITY OF OUR GRIEVENCES AND ARBITRATIONS, WITHOUT THEM I SHUTTER TO THINK WHERE WE WOULD BE. PERHAPS WITH JOHN IN CHURCH OR RIDING A HORSE!

[Think about it!]

Sure our overtime rate is going down to time and a half, which is what just about everyone in the United States gets but lets see what we are getting.
a. 20% over six years
b. in 2007 we go from 6% to 12% for shift diff compensation
c. longevity increases never before seen
d. top pay lowered from 11 to 10 steps
e. retirees in 2006 see 6% increase in termination pay, in 2007
increases of 9.5%.
f. sick leave abuse remains the same.
g. equipment allowance increased for first time in over 20 years
h. matenance allowance for uniforms, never before seen.
i. we still have 13 holidays

Still think its a bad contract? Vote no and you will see a bad contract. Plus remember its possible Johnny do nothing may actuallly try and negotiate the next one if we vote no. Horseshoes, bibles and time and a half await.

[Rubber]

Listen up bung holes, everyone knows that half of our department is retarted. Yes, we have jerry's kids. Sorry, but if some people didn't have this job god help them. What would they do for employment? They wouldn't even make it as a grape in a fruit of the loom commercial!! Be realistic, then ask yourself a question when your in the voting booth. Am I worth almost $90,000 to walk in the door? After you vote yes, come out and kiss your wallet because things could be worse. Open your eyes, floors are closing. [ They're not done yet] Inmates, are being shipped out to wackenhut [They're not done yet] We may price ourselves right out of a job! Don't think for one minute it can't happen. It's food for thought, you can draw your own conclusions!!!

[Hack Attack]

It's a shame we have to give back anything when the county is in the black. But it looks like once again will take it up our crack! I'll give them 152hrs per month, time and a half, no more then double our top base within rank, and that's it!!!!

3 conceessions are enough we shouldn't have to work 24 hrs overtime for straight time and give up 6 month's retro. if these 2 things were changed to full retro at 3.5% not 2.5% and gave us CCT for the 24 hrs this contract would be ok, I didn't say good I said ok!

this meeting should be interesting! :twisted: :evil: :oops:

[heres a kleenex]

waaaaaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaaaawaaaaa ! just vote and stop your crying. step up and speak at a closed meeting with people that are affected by the contract not on a public message board. as if any of this s--t makes a bit of difference. p.s. my dad can beat up your dad. :(

[notattoppay]

wake up its done why go to meetings u think they will say hey good idea lets vote it down only go if u like to argue for no reason there is a hand full of guys who have balls to say no they dont need to argue all day about it read the facts in the hand out
union u call this a union all they do for you is say write a to from or we are busy with the contract still have no names of one person who won any grievance except for bull shit that never should of had to be there in the first place but for the sheriff and ahole DUS's just saying no we wont do it WHAT U ALL FORGOT ABOUT LINE UP TIME THAT WAS AS MUCH AS DUERS AND UR UNION (BOSSES) FAULT
WHEN WE HAVE WHAT THE COPS HAVE THEN WE CAN AFFORD TO GIVE BACK WHAT THEY DO
WE BACKED SLICK TOM THEY DID NOT
WHAAAAA I GOT ORDERED EVERY DAY WHAAA YOU NEVER EVEN HIT RAPS .....THE NEW GUYS HIT ALL THE RAPS I REMEMBER I WAS ONE OF THEM WHEN YOU HAD PIZZA AND JUST SAID KEEP WALKING NEW JACK
WHAAA I GOT ORDERED EVERY DAY AND WAS ABLE TO BUY A HOUSE WHEN HOUSES WERE CHEAP AS SHIT NOW THEY ARE 450 - 800 AND THE NEW JACKS STILL DO ALL THE WORK (WELL THAT AINT SO BAD) WHEN ARE U PEOPLE GOING TO STICK TOGETHER AS A UNION U PEOPLE NEED TO GET OUT MORE AND FORGET THE POP
ALL THAT THEY GAVE YOU IS SMOKE AND MIRRORS CAUSE ALL THEY GIVE IS PAID FOR BY THE GUY WHO HAS LESS TIME AND THE NEW JACKS AS SOON AS THEY CUT HOLIDAY PAY I'LL BANG EVERY ONE I HAVE TO WORK I GIVE UP THE GREED AND GIVE AWAY THE FREE 8
AND THERE WILL BE 100 GUYS WAITIN TO LEAVE THEIR FAMILY AND COME TO WORK THE ONLY MORONSPEAK U HEAR IS YOUR UNION WHEN THEY OPEN THEIR HOLES DID I MENTION THEY ARE ALL BOSSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NOTATTOPPAY]

U GOT A ZERO AND NOT ONE PERSON HAS SEEN IT
THE CONTRACT YOU NEED TO READ THIS
2005 -2010

JULY TO JAN 2.5 2005 ..... ...........ZERO FOR JAN 2005 TO JULY
2.5 FOR ENTIRE YEAR WHEN INFLATION IS 3.86

JAN 2006 3.5

JAN 2007 3.5

JULY 2008 3.5 YES JULY......NOT A TYPEO......6 MOUNTHS NO RAISE
18 MONTHS NO RAISE

JAN 2009 3.5

JAN2010 3.5

SO YOU WORKED 6 MONTHS NO RAISE(JAN TO JULY 05) AND TOOK 2.5 FOR ONE YEAR AS A RAISE THATS SMOKE AND MIRRORS FOR HIDING ZEROS
THINK ABOUT IT JAN 2005 TIL JULY 6 MONTHS NO MONEY NO RAISE CAUSE YOU GET NO RETRO UNTIL JULY 1ST
JAN 2008 TO JULY 2008 NO MONEY NO RAISE THATS ANOTHER 6 MONTHS WHICH EQUALS========================== THATS 1 YEAR NO MONEY NO RAISE THAT IS A ZERO BOYS
AH I AM NOT AS STUPID AS YOU THOUGHT
THAT IS A ZERO NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY NO MATTER WHOS MATH YOU USE I AM SURE JHONNY BOY AND UNION GUYS WILL ARGUE TIL THE SUN COMES UP BUT THATS CALLED BAIT AND SWITCH, SMOKE AND MIRRORS, SLIGHT OF HAND, THEY SPLIT THE MONTHS APART SO YOU WOULD NOT NOTICE THE ZERO THE ONLY GOOD ANSWER FROM THE CRACK UNION WOULD BE HEY WE DIDNT NOTICE SHIT YOUR RIGHT CAUSE THEY ARE THAT BAD
THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE ITS NOT ALL ABOUT TOP PAY

[dumb hack]

U GOT A ZERO AND NOT ONE PERSON HAS SEEN IT
THE CONTRACT YOU NEED TO READ THIS
2005 -2010

JULY TO JAN 2.5 2005 ..... ...........ZERO FOR JAN 2005 TO JULY
2.5 FOR ENTIRE YEAR WHEN INFLATION IS 3.86

JAN 2006 3.5

JAN 2007 3.5

JULY 2008 3.5 YES JULY......NOT A TYPEO......6 MOUNTHS NO RAISE
18 MONTHS NO RAISE

JAN 2009 3.5

JAN2010 3.5

SO YOU WORKED 6 MONTHS NO RAISE(JAN TO JULY 05) AND TOOK 2.5 FOR ONE YEAR AS A RAISE THATS SMOKE AND MIRRORS FOR HIDING ZEROS
THINK ABOUT IT JAN 2005 TIL JULY 6 MONTHS NO MONEY NO RAISE CAUSE YOU GET NO RETRO UNTIL JULY 1ST
JAN 2008 TO JULY 2008 NO MONEY NO RAISE THATS ANOTHER 6 MONTHS WHICH EQUALS========================== THATS 1 YEAR NO MONEY NO RAISE THAT IS A ZERO BOYS
AH I AM NOT AS STUPID AS YOU THOUGHT
THAT IS A ZERO NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY NO MATTER WHOS MATH YOU USE I AM SURE JHONNY BOY AND UNION GUYS WILL ARGUE TIL THE SUN COMES UP BUT THATS CALLED BAIT AND SWITCH, SMOKE AND MIRRORS, SLIGHT OF HAND, THEY SPLIT THE MONTHS APART SO YOU WOULD NOT NOTICE THE ZERO THE ONLY GOOD ANSWER FROM THE CRACK UNION WOULD BE HEY WE DIDNT NOTICE SHIT YOUR RIGHT CAUSE THEY ARE THAT BAD
THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE ITS NOT ALL ABOUT TOP PAY


Your right, we got fucked out of 1 year retro not 6mo's, Fuuuuuuuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit, Motherfuckerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! VOTE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

[notattoppay]

hey just another hack
while u were riding the short bus to boces with your rubber helmut on drueling on the window some of us graduated from high school you must be one of those cause you insult our job and say we have a union like you said 10 guys show up
thats the point bone head thats not a union if only10 people out of 1000 show up i guess boces doesnt bother with vocabulary cause you dont know what union meens what if i had a real job with real work you must be that guy that shows up on a post and goes to sleep and wonders why no one talks to you its like the boces short bus you must be used to it by now the reason we are getting a shit contract is morons like you whats the rush to vote cause the more you contemplate this deal the more you will see it sucks for boces boy contemplate meens think why would they want us to vote so fast
hopefully the legislature votes it down that would be great so the bosses union can address the zero and the holiday pay
the cops gave up OT to 1.5 but their holiday pay never changed asshole its the little bs they threw in to fool all those boces boys into thinking this is a good contract its below average hey just like you gotta go to the meeting yeah right
its time for me to go enjoy my life something you know nothing about

hey just another hack
while u were riding the short bus to boces with your rubber helmut on drueling on the window some of us graduated from high school you must be one of those cause you insult our job and say we have a union like you said 10 guys show up
thats the point bone head thats not a union if only10 people out of 1000 show up i guess boces doesnt bother with vocabulary cause you dont know what union meens what if i had a real job with real work you must be that guy that shows up on a post and goes to sleep and wonders why no one talks to you its like the boces short bus you must be used to it by now the reason we are getting a shit contract is morons like you whats the rush to vote cause the more you contemplate this deal the more you will see it dddddddd for boces boy contemplate meens think why would they want us to vote so fast
hopefully the legislature votes it down that would be great so the bosses union can address the zero and the holiday pay
the cops gave up OT to 1.5 but their holiday pay never changed xxxxxyy its the little bs they threw in to fool all those boces boys into thinking this is a good contract its below average hey just like you gotta go to the meeting yeah right
its time for me to go enjoy my life something you know nothing about

If you want to use education to berate another here, you may want to make sure you don't look totally stupid and moronic yourself. Punctuation is your friend, as are capital letters. Spellcheckers are a dime a dozen, find one. Lastly, try organizing your thoughts, it makes a lot more sense that way.

[snapperhead]

:o what school you went :?: :?: :shock: :shock:

[INTESTINES]

Listen up bung holes, everyone knows that half of our department is retarted. Yes, we have jerry's kids. Sorry, but if some people didn't have this job god help them. What would they do for employment? They wouldn't even make it as a grape in a fruit of the loom commercial!! Be realistic, then ask yourself a question when your in the voting booth. Am I worth almost $90,000 to walk in the door? After you vote yes, come out and kiss your wallet because things could be worse. Open your eyes, floors are closing. [ They're not done yet] Inmates, are being shipped out to wackenhut [They're not done yet] We may price ourselves right out of a job! Don't think for one minute it can't happen. It's food for thought, you can draw your own conclusions!!!

IT'S SPELLED "RETARDED" WITH A "D" YOU DIPSHIT.

f**k the new guys, hit some punches and catch up. where were you 'new' guys when we were all locked in for 16 hours a day with no way out for a lot less money than we're making now? the last contract was a catchup one to get us on par with everyone else on this sh**ty island. im voting yes yes yes.
you got one thing right though, screw duer
this contract is a step in the right direction---ot formula's or not, but from what im hearing duer was in the mist the whole time---leaveing the grunt work for somebody else-----from what im hearing he's checking out places to retire now anyway.......
USELESS

YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOUR NAME TO JUST A SCHMUCK. I CANT SPEAK FOR OTHER NEW GUYS, BUT I WAS LOCKING DOWN TIERS IN RIKERS AT $38K A YEAR WHILE U PUSSYASS COUNTY C/O'S WERE MAKING A FORTUNE FOR A 1/4 OF THE WORK I WAS DOING, SO DONT GET THERE. SPARE ME THE "NEW GUY" SH*T BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN AND BEEN THROUGH SH*T U HAVE ONLY SEEN IN YOUR NIGHTMARES. BUT ANYWAY, NEW GUYS ARE THE FUTURE OF THIS DEPARTMENT AND IT'S BECAUSE OF A-HOLES LIKE U THAT THEY HAVE GOTTEN SCREWED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. HMMM....WE NEED TO SAVE SOME MONEY....LETS SCREW THE NEW GUYS. WHAT THEY DONT HAVE FAMILY AND BILLS ALSO?? NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO TAKE A BEATING AT ANYTIME! WE ARE ALL PART OF THE SAME TEAM. BUT IT'S GREEDY F*CKS WHO THINK LIKE U THAT SET A PRECIDENT FOR EVERY OTHER NEW F*CKIN GUY THAT JOINS THE UNION. F*CK THE GIVE BACKS, F*CK SCREWING FELLOW CO-WORKERS, AND F*CK U JUST A SCHMUCK!!!

HOT SOUP!!!!!!! BRATTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOT SOUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rikers??? Rikers?!?!?!]

you were putting up with things in rikers that are only in my nightmares? you must be kidding me!
anyone with any time on THIS JOB in nassau knows that only two things ever came out of rikers-----inmates with bad attitudes and pussy co's that turned their heads while the inmates ran that asylum. ask anyone with more than 5 yrs on this job and they'll tell you, all rikers inmates that ever came through our doors treated co's like pieces of shit. theres only reason for that. the co's in rikers let themselves be treated like shit. one last thing too, they hire co's in the city with felonies on their records. that makes for a very blurry line between inmate and co. 38k can buy a lot of crack

f**k the new guys, hit some punches and catch up. where were you 'new' guys when we were all locked in for 16 hours a day with no way out for a lot less money than we're making now? the last contract was a catchup one to get us on par with everyone else on this sh**ty island. im voting yes yes yes.
you got one thing right though, screw duer
this contract is a step in the right direction---ot formula's or not, but from what im hearing duer was in the mist the whole time---leaveing the grunt work for somebody else-----from what im hearing he's checking out places to retire now anyway.......
USELESS

YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOUR NAME TO JUST A SCHMUCK. I CANT SPEAK FOR OTHER NEW GUYS, BUT I WAS LOCKING DOWN TIERS IN RIKERS AT $38K A YEAR WHILE U PUSSYASS COUNTY C/O'S WERE MAKING A FORTUNE FOR A 1/4 OF THE WORK I WAS DOING, SO DONT GET THERE. SPARE ME THE "NEW GUY" SH*T BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN AND BEEN THROUGH SH*T U HAVE ONLY SEEN IN YOUR NIGHTMARES. BUT ANYWAY, NEW GUYS ARE THE FUTURE OF THIS DEPARTMENT AND IT'S BECAUSE OF A-HOLES LIKE U THAT THEY HAVE GOTTEN SCREWED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. HMMM....WE NEED TO SAVE SOME MONEY....LETS SCREW THE NEW GUYS. WHAT THEY DONT HAVE FAMILY AND BILLS ALSO?? NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO TAKE A BEATING AT ANYTIME! WE ARE ALL PART OF THE SAME TEAM. BUT IT'S GREEDY F*CKS WHO THINK LIKE U THAT SET A PRECIDENT FOR EVERY OTHER NEW F*CKIN GUY THAT JOINS THE UNION. F*CK THE GIVE BACKS, F*CK SCREWING FELLOW CO-WORKERS, AND F*CK U JUST A SCHMUCK!!!

HOT SOUP!!!!!!! BRATTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOT SOUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
any thing good in this contract like 825 uniform allowance you are paying for it from your give backs you give back 24 hours straight time or OT cut to 1.5 thats you giving back thousands so they bait you with 825 and most of you dumb aholes are falling for the oldest trick in the book f*ck the new guy you should not be in a union job you are a schmuck and by the way when are you gonna stop whinnnning about getting ordered every day how stupid are you now you want to get ordered for 1.5 an hour when no one can afford to take this job at 25 you will be getting ordered every day again except this time you cant bang as much as you want and for much less pay hot soup........B....yaaaach

[snapperhead]

whatever man, i hope this contract goes through so i can get a raise and a year closer to top pay. oooo wait, lets vote it down so i can ( prob not) get a little better 2 yrs from now. thats 2 yrs of lost raises. :cry: you think you are going to get retro ??? ha ha ha silly boy, :lol: you should be beaten with a wet noodle. you do what you want, i vote YES :!: :!: 8)

[charlieking]

[quote="just a hack"] where were you 'new' guys when we were all locked in for 16 hours a day with no way out for a lot less money?

I WAS BALLZ DEEP IN A CHIC NAMED MARCY!!

CHARLIE UP!!!

[terrazzaaaaaaaa tad]

gee how times have changed. I remember when the new guy kept his pie hole closed and just did his job, and learned. Now the new guy not only knows it all, seen it all, but comments on it all. If you love Rikers that much, go back! Obviously the money and your talents served you more here then in Rikers. The money is always there if you want to make it. Be glad you are here when that heating oil bill comes in at 4 bucks a gallon. I remember when the old building was packed, C&D had all eight tiers running, with one officer on the south side, pulling visits, court, medical, and hitting all 4 tier patrols, every 15 minutes. Hey new guy, C&D is ont he building next to B, not in the Satellite. Maybe they should go back to working the wheel, and really cram it up your ass. It never ceases to amaze me how people, who have only experianced 2 to 5 years here, KNOW IT ALL. You know jack shit. Go to the meeting tonight and express your views, till then, hit the rap RUBBER

gee how times have changed. I remember when the new guy kept his pie hole closed and just did his job, and learned. Now the new guy not only knows it all, seen it all, but comments on it all. If you love Rikers that much, go back! Obviously the money and your talents served you more here then in Rikers. The money is always there if you want to make it. Be glad you are here when that heating oil bill comes in at 4 bucks a gallon. I remember when the old building was packed, C&D had all eight tiers running, with one officer on the south side, pulling visits, court, medical, and hitting all 4 tier patrols, every 15 minutes. Hey new guy, C&D is ont he building next to B, not in the Satellite. Maybe they should go back to working the wheel, and really cram it up your ass. It never ceases to amaze me how people, who have only experianced 2 to 5 years here, KNOW IT ALL. You know jack shit. Go to the meeting tonight and express your views, till then, hit the rap RUBBER

you tell those newjacks what time it is boy!

[terrazzzza tad]

don't get me wrong, I have nothing against new people, but, oh have times changed. I would love to see you cry babies tell Sgt. Paulie O , I can't work with her/him. It's too cold, I can't walk stairs.

don't get me wrong, I have nothing against new people, but, oh have times changed. I would love to see you cry babies tell Sgt. Paulie O , I can't work with her/him. It's too cold, I can't walk stairs.

you tell those crybaby newjacks, boy! :P

[snapperhead]

i love the one where they cant touch the keys because they are allergic to brass....what a crock, i should have thought of that one.. :evil: :evil:

i love the one where they cant touch the keys because they are allergic to brass....what a crock, i should have thought of that one.. :evil: :evil:

yeah right, don't forget latex gloves too. maybe they should ask that on their medical and exclude these losers. they scate at the desk and I get stuck for 25 in the trenches with skids! :twisted: :oops: :evil:

[207ccccccccccccccccccccc]

go crap yourself and say it was from stress

[snapperhead]

you want to crap yourself, just eat the o.m. food. mmmmm that greaseman is quit the chef.

you want to crap yourself, just eat the o.m. food. mmmmm that greaseman is quit the chef.

yeah and that csea's presidents flunky too

[CHARLIEBOYY]

yeah, he made me an omelette i'll never forget. i was on the bowl droppin' a duece for almost an hour. it threw my back out and forced me to "charlie up" for a week.

[Insane]

What I cant figure is how we as Correction Officers will be making less than a cook especially when it comes to overtime.
Who saw that coming?

yeah, he made me an omelette i'll never forget. i was on the bowl droppin' a duece for almost an hour. it threw my back out and forced me to "charlie up" for a week.

Thats pretty bad

[Read em and weep]

503 for contract--- 288 greedy a$$holes against..........Too bad losers, now you will make more money for less hours and have to be forced to go home and spend time with your wife and kids....if you still know what they look like! "Mom, who is the strange man at the dinner table?" :?: :?: :?: "C'mon kids, dont you remember, that is your father!" :P :P :P

503 for contract--- 288 greedy a$$holes against..........Too bad losers, now you will make more money for less hours and have to be forced to go home and spend time with your wife and kids....if you still know what they look like! "Mom, who is the strange man at the dinner table?" :?: :?: :?: "C'mon kids, dont you remember, that is your father!" :P :P :P

I don't want to be home!!!! I'll miss my SKIDS and they'll miss me... what am I suppose to do? :oops:

[Neverhappy]

How many cry babies do we have on this job? At this moment wer'e the highest paid C.O's in the world!! Shut your pie holes!Oh my god, how dare they expect me to make $90,000 to walk in the door, and only earn time and a half on overtime!! I just can't live on that welfare pay. I guess I'll have scale down some of my toys. Buy a car and house that I can afford, and live within my means. Shit, it just ain't fair I tell ya!!!!

[lalala]

I guess you will be making 90,000 as of right this moment?

[SuperHack]

2 1/2%, 3.5%, This contract is a gift to the County. Whether or not anyone else gets 1 3/4 time for OT is not relevant. That is the County's opportunity to reduce their OT payout by almost 15%. We left CSEA because they ratified every contract we voted down. Contract time is the time for us to Man up and fight. If you think they pay us too much then that is your self esteem problem. God bless the good citizens who pay us but if anyone thinks we are paid too much then take the test.

[Really Super Hack]

Did any of you guys read the contract proposal or go to the meetings the union gave? how the hell are we making less than the cooks with this contract? cooks make 60k at top pay with 11 yrs to get there, while we'll make 88k at 10 yrs. Show me that math and tell me how your High School reunion at Island Trees went! Dumb Dumb Dummies!!!

[Just Guessing]

just in case you haven't relized, or aware of, but we lost b5, they are trying to close b4, what is next. So, as for rumors on the tiers, the way things are going, there will be a real estate sign in front of the B building by summers end

You wonder why they closed floors you might want to check the count. When the count goes down there isn't much the unoin can do about it. If you know any cops you might want to tell them to start doing there jobs and start locking people up.

[house of blues]

I agree, but why condense when you can isolate, and seperate and actually run the facility more safely. How about the union enforcing post assignments by senority, not by whose buddy you are. Seems like we forgot about what time on this job stands for.

[Floor Hack]

i guess you guys forgot that overtime is a part of this job that isn't going away. Everyone I know was hired to stop the pop. By lowering the overtime divisor we conceeded millions of dollars. Suozzola himself said it's cheaper to pay OT than hire. The difference now is that you will be doing it for a lot less ( it's more profitable to order you at a lower rate now ala Rykers). It was nice of the union guys to increase all the benefits they get (night diff, uniform allowences' longevity etc.) on the backs of the guys in security. If you don't think that the cooks make more than co's look at a cook11 's pay it's 30 dollars a pay period more than a co. Look at a kitchen supervisors pay (fake sergeant) it's more than sgt's pay. Don't even go to asst to Sheriff (chief of staff) or the new Supervisor of bldgs and grounds. For the first time in the history of this dept the Deps will make more than us (3 grade increase). In a time of prosperity this union gave way to much back. These guys do nothing but go on vacation, trips and golf outings. Since being in office these guys have increased their stipend, hired Donohue to do their work, moved off campus and tailored a contract to get themselves more money. WAKE UP SECURITY