NASSAU POLICE LOSING VILLAGES?

SOUNDS LIKE ALOT OF VILLAGES ARE ATTEMPTING TO START THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, OR ARE TRYING TO GET ANOTHER VILLAGE WITH A POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TAKE OVER POLICE SERVICES, TO GET RID OF NASSAU PD

[unkle kraker]

Get off the pipe and back into the real world. Many villages are looking to do away with their Police Depts because of economics. Yes, its cheaper to have NCPD do the work. Good examples : Laurel Hollow, Woodsburgh, Cove Neck, Mill Neck....etc. Yup, economics, and these I've listed aren't exactly poor communities.

[u r wrong]

Mill Neck patrolled by Old Brookville

[Skippy]

Yes, Mill Neck is patrolled by Old Brookville, but it used to have its own Police Dept, which IT DOES NOT HAVE ANYMORE.

[Hubba Bubba]

SOUNDS LIKE ALOT OF VILLAGES ARE ATTEMPTING TO START THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, OR ARE TRYING TO GET ANOTHER VILLAGE WITH A POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TAKE OVER POLICE SERVICES, TO GET RID OF NASSAU PD

You are very close to the mark. There have been discussions between a large village department and a neighboring village.

you make no sense, mill neck, and cove neck are covered by old brookville, a village pd.....cove neck had nassau for police service, but fired them as soon as the contract ended, and went with odpd. nassau was alot more $$, and alot less service.

[hedgehog III]

Mineola was also unhappy with NCPD and was trying to start their own police force.

[SecuritySix]

Rest assured, they all work together and comminnicate well for our saffety. Got that, you bad guys from out a town? You hear?

[NOidea]

you make no sense, mill neck, and cove neck are covered by old brookville, a village pd.....cove neck had nassau for police service, but fired them as soon as the contract ended, and went with odpd. nassau was alot more $$, and alot less service.
Old Brookville does cover those areas, but they used to have their OWN Police Departments, so did Cove Neck, and when they disbanded, some went to NCPD, some went to Oyster Bay Cove PD, and one went to Rockville Centre. NCPD was NEVER used for Cove Neck, there was no "contract". As for $$$, you really haven't got a clue. Look at your tax bill and actually READ it, see how much you pay in school taxes. THATS whats truly breaking the back of taxpayers. You actually pay MORE for cable TV then you do for Police service. :D

clueless.. cove neck was covered by nassau pd for 2 years, the length of the contract that was signed, car 224 to be exact, it was created just for cove neck. oyster bay cove pd policed cove neck for many years until mayors couldnt get along, that is when cove neck went to ncpd. since the price of police patrol for nassau pd is alot higher than most villages, cove neck went with old brookville for police patrol services...better patrol, at less cost.

[thehornet]

clueless.. cove neck was covered by nassau pd for 2 years, the length of the contract that was signed, car 224 to be exact, it was created just for cove neck. oyster bay cove pd policed cove neck for many years until mayors couldnt get along, that is when cove neck went to ncpd. since the price of police patrol for nassau pd is alot higher than most villages, cove neck went with old brookville for police patrol services...better patrol, at less cost.


yeah, keep believing that one...until you get a<n affluent> village cop that starts making arrests, and upsetting the powers that be. Or, don't you find it oddly coincidental that so few arrests are made By village cops in the villages they patrol?

[Guesswho]

Get off the pipe and back into the real world. Many villages are looking to do away with their Police Depts because of economics. Yes, its cheaper to have NCPD do the work. Good examples : Laurel Hollow, Woodsburgh, Cove Neck, Mill Neck....etc. Yup, economics, and these I've listed aren't exactly poor communities.

Screw the rich. Let them pay for their own police force. And charge them double for their donuts.

[Tom77]

Mineola was also unhappy with NCPD and was trying to start their own police force.

They are not getting a police force. That was just a political game by their Mayor who has an ego trip.

Mineola was also unhappy with NCPD and was trying to start their own police force.

They are not getting a police force. That was just a political game by their Mayor who has an ego trip.
Exactly another know nothing, hedgehog iii, who read a article in a newspaper chimes in, thanks for setting him straight

[hedgehog V]

I used to live in Mineola, schmuck. So bite me.

I used to live in Mineola, schmuck. So bite me.
And ? obviously doesnt mean you know anything, you still were wrong, ignorant fool

[Guest2]

I drove thru Mineola once, I guess that makes me an "expert" too !!!!! :D :D :D

I drove thru Mineola once, I guess that makes me an "expert" too !!!!! :D :D :D depends what rode was it the one hedgehog iii, iv or v lived on, if so no, you are now contaminated and must be deliced

[hedghog]

Gee, can you tell that cops post here? Such class.

The FACT is the Mayor of Mineola was looking into starting its own village PD because he was dissatisfied with NCPD service. Why not address the question? (duh, cuz I'm a cop?)

Gee, can you tell that cops post here? Such class.

(duh, cuz I'm a cop?)
class;
hedgehog V Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:36 pm

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I used to live in Mineola, schmuck. So bite me.
nuff said, trailor park class at its best.

(duh, cuz I'm a cop?)
the epitome of class, boy

Gee, can you tell that cops post here? Such class.

The FACT is the Mayor of Mineola was looking into starting its own village PD because he was dissatisfied with NCPD service. Why not address the question? (duh, cuz I'm a cop?)
how about having enough class to use 1 name? If you even are the same person, and certainly if you are so ''above'' the people you attempt to mock, why do you bother posting here?

[hog]

That's up to the site administrator. But why won't anyone address why Mineola wanted to move away from NCPD?

That's up to the site administrator. But why won't anyone address why Mineola wanted to move away from NCPD?because we are low class unitelligent cops quite similiar to low class snippy little dweebchild who thinks he can troll here and then demand a answer,go you are dismissed .

That's up to the site administrator. ?
What you having class? Or pretending to be not a child?

[hogg]

Har har. Well, look at my first post, then look at the response. I can take it, but I'll also give it back. Big deal. But what about the point of the thread? Some villages are not happy with NCPD. True enough.

Har har. Well, look at my first post, then look at the response. I can take it, but I'll also give it back. Big deal. But what about the point of the thread? Some villages are not happy with NCPD. True enough.
what did you give, i didnt notice?
Who are you anyway, this is your first post

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POST, THATS WHY MINEOLA WAS TRYING TO START OWN POLICE FORCE, NASSAU PD COSTS ALOT FOR PATROL, AND DO LITTLE. CARS ARE ALWAYS PULLED FROM THE AREA TO GO TO OTHER AREAS. AND I BELIEVE MINEOLA IS NOW TALKING WITH SURROUNDING VILLAGES THAT HAVE OWN POLICE FORCE ABOUT TAKING OVER COVERAGE.

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POST, THATS WHY MINEOLA WAS TRYING TO START OWN POLICE FORCE, NASSAU PD COSTS ALOT FOR PATROL, AND DO LITTLE. CARS ARE ALWAYS PULLED FROM THE AREA TO GO TO OTHER AREAS. AND I BELIEVE MINEOLA IS NOW TALKING WITH SURROUNDING VILLAGES THAT HAVE OWN POLICE FORCE ABOUT TAKING OVER COVERAGE.

Mineola will refuse to pay the amount it might cost for a surroufding village to hire more cops and patrol

They will stick with NCPD - its a lot cheaper for them.

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POST, THATS WHY MINEOLA WAS TRYING TO START OWN POLICE FORCE, NASSAU PD COSTS ALOT FOR PATROL



Mineola's mayor has a low rating with the public. He was trying to use this as a political move. It will never happen.

any surrounding village with a police force, patrol tax is alot less than nassau pd

any surrounding village with a police force, patrol tax is alot less than nassau pd

Not really...many small villages have now switched back the NCPD...especially the smaller villages. Having their own PD was not financially workable.

many have switched? laurel hollow, woodsburg? and..?

plandome

how many years are we going back here

There are a number of villages that are struggling with the issue of who will police them. NCPD is more expensive than working with a neighboring village force, and the service is better for some purposes and worse for others. The police presence is often inadequate, with a single sector car at most that can be pulled for emergencies, which arise regularly. The cops don't know the residents by name, the addresses, the village quirks, the local issues that get people riled up. Also, the cops are sometimes a little rough for some villages. But, NCPD offers the full assortment of police skills and equipment that small forces cannot.

On the other hand, the cost of maintaining a police force for a small village is very high. While it provides a boutique force, where they know all the residents and addresses, they often lack the skills, equipment and management to handle anything out of the ordinary and, in the eyes of residents, fail to provide value for the money.

On the third hand, neighboring village forces have similar drawbacks, but as they get bigger to handle multiple villages they become a hybrid of the two. However, the contracting villages are put in the position of paying the capital costs without having adequate control over costs, and the owning village has to commit to hiring additional cops and purchasing additional equipment to cover, without assurance that the contracting village will stick around long enough to make it worthwhile. As villages have moved in and out of police contracts, the situation has become very unstable and risky for all involved. What do you do with the extra cops and equipment when a village decides to change policing contracts?

While the issues are far more involved, and differ somewhat from village to village, then can be discussed here, the point is that none of the solutions is perfect and contrary to what some have written, there are no good and bad answers, just trade offs that have to be weighed in light of the needs and desires of different villages. And villages sometimes come to realize, after a change of force or administration, that they made the wrong choice.

alot of typing there, but very little factual information !!

p.s. headquarters tax, covers all of the special services you are referring to- k-9, ambulance, detectives, aviation, crime scene, etc etc etc

not factual? do all those fuzzy things like ideas confuse you?

:roll:

[Romeo]

These small villages would not be opting for their own police department if the NCPD was adequately patrolling the county. Even if the cost is slightly higher, the service that a village police department offers is unbeatable. The NCPD is not giving the residents their monies' worth of service. It is pathetic that the County Executive cannot get this department under control

These small villages would not be opting for their own police department if the NCPD was adequately patrolling the county. Even if the cost is slightly higher, the service that a village police department offers is unbeatable. The NCPD is not giving the residents their monies' worth of service. It is pathetic that the County Executive cannot get this department under control

Exactly - the nassau county cops are the high school geeks who are now drunk with power they think they have and have to take out their rage and frustration on the residents of nassau county.

To use an analogy to schools, the nassau county police think they are the principal or teachers, but they are really just hall monitors. No more educated or sophisticated than anyone else, but given the duty to tell on people. Just like most hall monitors, most police officers abuse their post, especially in the NCPD where the union has total control over the inept managers of nassau county.

I've had multiple bad experiences with the nassau police. Seems as though they are more focused on making their crime stats and their paychecks than they are on serving the community.

I thought police work was civil service? I've never heard of another profession with such a sense of entitlement than the nassau police have.

ARE VILLAGES WITHOUT THERE OWN POLICE DEPT. STILL ASKING SURROUNDING VILLAGES THAT HAVE THERE OWN POLICE DEPT TO PATROL THEM?

ARE VILLAGES WITHOUT THERE OWN POLICE DEPT. STILL ASKING SURROUNDING VILLAGES THAT HAVE THERE OWN POLICE DEPT TO PATROL THEM?

Yes, due to the lack of coverage for the NCPD.

Why aren't they performing their duties? - There aren't enough NCPD police officers

Why aren't there enough NCPD police officers? - Because the county cannot afford patrol policemen making >$110,000 a year in addition to all of the other benefits these cops gets.

What can we do about it? - Write your local mayor and tell him/ her to establish a task force to assess the feaibility of adopting their own police force.

We've put up with the incompetence, ineptitude, and feelings of entitlement of the NCPD for far too long - NASSAU COUNTY HAS HAD ENOUGH!

ARE VILLAGES WITHOUT THERE OWN POLICE DEPT. STILL ASKING SURROUNDING VILLAGES THAT HAVE THERE OWN POLICE DEPT TO PATROL THEM?

Yes, due to the lack of coverage for the NCPD.

Why aren't they performing their duties? - There aren't enough NCPD police officers

Why aren't there enough NCPD police officers? - Because the county cannot afford patrol policemen making >$110,000 a year in addition to all of the other benefits these cops gets.

What can we do about it? - Write your local mayor and tell him/ her to establish a task force to assess the feaibility of adopting their own police force.

We've put up with the incompetence, ineptitude, and feelings of entitlement of the NCPD for far too long - NASSAU COUNTY HAS HAD ENOUGH!

its Suozzi's micromanagement of the police department that is causing problems. Suozzi needs to let the professionals do their jobs.

ARE VILLAGES WITHOUT THERE OWN POLICE DEPT. STILL ASKING SURROUNDING VILLAGES THAT HAVE THERE OWN POLICE DEPT TO PATROL THEM?

Yes, due to the lack of coverage for the NCPD.

Why aren't they performing their duties? - There aren't enough NCPD police officers

Why aren't there enough NCPD police officers? - Because the county cannot afford patrol policemen making >$110,000 a year in addition to all of the other benefits these cops gets.

What can we do about it? - Write your local mayor and tell him/ her to establish a task force to assess the feaibility of adopting their own police force.

We've put up with the incompetence, ineptitude, and feelings of entitlement of the NCPD for far too long - NASSAU COUNTY HAS HAD ENOUGH!

its Suozzi's micromanagement of the police department that is causing problems. Suozzi needs to let the professionals do their jobs.

Nassau county police are professionals? ARe you kidding me? They are the biggest bunch of slime balls Nassau County have to offer! They don't do their job well, they focus on traffic violations instead of the more important qualify of life issues such as graffiti, and they make an astronomical amount of money - bleeding the nassau county homeowner! Please, if nassau county cops are professionals, then I'm George Washington!

Hi George...

Hi George... Say what

TRUTH IS, MANY VILLAGES WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE NCPD PATROL THEM, THEY ARE TRYING TO CONVINCE SURROUNDING VILLAGES THAT HAVE THERE OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TAKE OVER THERE POLICE PATROL....THATS THE FACTS

[deadest horse]

TRUTH IS, MANY VILLAGES WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE NCPD PATROL THEM, THEY ARE TRYING TO CONVINCE SURROUNDING VILLAGES THAT HAVE THERE OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TAKE OVER THERE POLICE PATROL....THATS THE FACTS


Yeah, the crushing DEFEAT of the Mineola proposal backs that up....

ok, i see i have to type slow....
i did not say villages are looking to start their own police departments, i said...
villages that are patrolled by nassau, are looking to surrounding villages that have their own police department, to take over police patrol for them, since you brought up mineola, they have and are still trying to get surrounding villages to take over patrol...garden city, old westbury etc...

[deadest horse]

type as fast or as slow as you want. You're upset that your proposal went down in flames, and you left grasping at straws.

what villages are looking to bail from nassau patrolling them?

[Unregistered13]

1. Village cops make just as much money as NCPD cops.
2. The only advantage of have a Village PD is that Village cops stay in the village, they are not called off. Freeport once talked about getting rid of their PD and go to NCPD. BUT when they were told only 2, 2 man cars were going to cover the entire village, they said no thanks. Right now Freeport gets a minimun of 6 1 man cars covering Freeport only, thats a minimun. They also have 2 k9s, 4 traffic enforcement cops, 6 detectives and 6 plainclothe cops. All only cover Freeport. The North/East side of Freeport is shit hole but the rest is pretty nice, just imagine if only 2 cars would cover the whole Village. The residents of Freeport pay higher taxes for this serve but are glad to have them. I am not saying that NCPD cops are bad, they are the best cops around. Freeport pays the HQ tax so they can use their detectives, which are the most profetional and best detectives around. The residents of Nassau don't know how good they have it, with their police. NCPD hold it down so that Nassau doesn't become the 6th barou. If you want more cops covering your area don't compain about your taxes. Nassau residents have a big bargain with NCPD, they just don't know it.

[Cops Making Bux]

Too much bux. too much.

[NCPD Cops]

time for another raise!

[It's a Shame]

Running a police department is not for rookies. The officials of smaller villages are barely competent to do anything, no less manage a PD.

There are some chief who are better than others, but police (like any other government agency) needs civilian oversight to properly serve the residents. There is no one competent to provide this oversight, and even if there is a person sufficiently interests and capable, the PD will go on after the person is long gone.

The idea of Village police forces is a great one. The execution is simply beyond the ability of the village officials. Sad but true.