Watch NIFA Meeting Live 7/14/2011 4pm

[Voting Yes Forever]

Nassau County budget and Coliseum are expected to be reviewed.

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[Unregistered12384858]

The rate of return on the money that tax payers have to pay is a terrible investment.A smart businessman would never agree to this deal.To increase taxes on home owners, and a projected break even could possibly be in 30 years is crazy. To possibly make 14 million a year on a 400 million investment would get any executive fired. Most taxpayers will not even be living in Nassau county when the money is repaid. This project would also create a tremendous amount of traffic, it would be impossible to use hempstead turnpike during rush hours or events.The project would also be a money pit because if it didnt make money the politicians would keep raising taxes to keep it afloat.The politicians are looking for any extra money they could throw in the pot and spend how they see fit.They should sell the land for 400 million to an investor and make the money this way instead of waiting 30 years.The public has been burned too many times by politicians.

[Voting Yes Forever]

To possibly make 14 million a year on a 400 million investment would get any executive fired.

Like the investment to give Smg all the real revenue of the Coliseum since 1985, and then extend it until 2015 (when the lease was supposed to be reviewed every six years) because Al D'Amato was on Smg board and Tom Gulotta was too incompetent?

That's how the Islanders, the taxpayers and the county got screwed.

As for this deal it's fourteen million plus eleven percent of all Coliseum revenue generated which would be around 3-4 million so the likely starting point is eighteen of twenty eight million covered. One naming rights deal for a stadium or the Coliseum and it could be a net profit immediately.


Most taxpayers will not even be living in Nassau county when the money is repaid. This project would also create a tremendous amount of traffic, it would be impossible to use hempstead turnpike during rush hours or events.


The bond could be repaid very quickly if other development happens on that site. For the foreseeable future the increased traffic would be a 1,500 seat capacity increase on the Coliseum and a 6,000 seat stadium used 70 days a year for baseball. That's not a great deal different than what's happening there now. Baseball games do not take place in winter during hockey games.


The project would also be a money pit because if it didnt make money the politicians would keep raising taxes to keep it afloat.The politicians are looking for any extra money they could throw in the pot and spend how they see fit.

The bond is for a straight 350m + 50m for baseball, there is a $ 58.00 max per year while construction takes place and the current building is still open so it will not be that high. There is no raising taxes on a set bond limit and if this facility cost 500m Wang pays another 150m out of his own pocket.

Not too many sports arena's in New York cost 350m, Cablevision's Garden renovation costs 800m and that's a dump.


They should sell the land for 400 million to an investor and make the money this way instead of waiting 30 years.The public has been burned too many times by politicians.

Why is anyone going to hand over 400m to be treated like garbage by Nassau and the Town of Hempstead?

After the Lighthouse project, the Milstein project, it's obvious Town of Hempstead and Nassau County will only lease the land and not sell to private development unless it makes their friends money. The politicians have burned themselves, the Islanders and the public by letting the Coliseum fall apart, but they cannot walk away from over a million plus current customers by closing the building without that huge cost being passed down to the taxpayers, along with the massive hit the local economy will take.

This is the equivalent of closing down Roosevelt Field and Hofstra University and replacing it with nothing to make up the revenue for the County.

[Nifanix]

Hopefully NIFA will nix this.

[Voting Yes Forever]

Hopefully NIFA will nix this.

And then NIFA will be asked to approve the huge permanent tax increase by the next county executive when everyone wakes up and sees Nassau just lost the Coliseum, the Islanders and a million customers who generate revenue for Nassau County taxpayers.

[HockeyPuck]

And then NIFA will be asked to approve the huge permanent tax increase by the next county executive when everyone wakes up and sees Nassau just lost the Coliseum, the Islanders and a million customers who generate revenue for Nassau County taxpayers.

Which presumes you knpw WTF you're talking about. First, I dont think NIFA is going to approve of the County floating close to half a billion dollars right now, and second, there are other options for the land than a frikkin hockey rink.

No one is going to be lining up to get the Isanders either. Give it a rest pal. Everything that comes out of your mouth is a lie, including the words "and" and "the."

[Just Build It]

Which presumes you knpw WTF you're talking about. First, I dont think NIFA is going to approve of the County floating close to half a billion dollars right now, and second, there are other options for the land than a frikkin hockey rink.

No one is going to be lining up to get the Isanders either. Give it a rest pal. Everything that comes out of your mouth is a lie, including the words "and" and "the."

But everything you say is gospel

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

[HockeyPuck]

But everything you say is gospel

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

At least its not based on wishful thinking, questionable figures, or a moneyed interest in this project going forward.

People can build whatever they like- but you're not going to put me on the hook for it.

Take THAT to the bank, sonny.

[Just Build It]

At least its not based on wishful thinking, questionable figures, or a moneyed interest in this project going forward.

People can build whatever they like- but you're not going to put me on the hook for it.

Take THAT to the bank, sonny.

sonny? really haha wow just wow

If this gets voted down youll be on the hook for whatever they put there to replace this so voting no won't get you off the hook for development at that site.

[HockeyPuck]

sonny? really haha wow just wow

If this gets voted down youll be on the hook for whatever they put there to replace this so voting no won't get you off the hook for development at that site.

Says who? The land can be sold, and then assessed and taxed. Why MUST this be a hockey rink, or even a sports facility? There are plenty of other options out there.

If someone wants to build a mixed use office/retail/residential complex, that would be a far more beneficial outcome for the County and the taxpayer.

The way this deal is structured, we get next to nothing, and thats even if your numbers are correct, which I doubt they are since their origins are biased.

[Unregjkknmhj]

This is NOT going to be broadcast live.

[Voting Yes Forever]

Says who? The land can be sold, and then assessed and taxed. Why MUST this be a hockey rink, or even a sports facility? There are plenty of other options out there.

If someone wants to build a mixed use office/retail/residential complex, that would be a far more beneficial outcome for the County and the taxpayer.

The land can be sold and then assessed and taxed? So what was stopping Nassau and TOH for doing that the last forty years? The Coliseum does not occupy the entire 77 acres, the Islanders owners never owned the rest of the property. They will not own it with this deal.

Someone did want to build exactly what you wanted AND renovate the Coliseum for you. Kate Murray told you she preferred concrete parking lots.

Maybe you have not figured this out yet, but Kate Murray, Joe Modello, Desmond Ryan, Al D'Amato, Tom Gulotta, Tom Suozzi, Ed Mangano, NIfa, Charles Wang, Scott Rechler, James Dolan, all want only what they want for that property.

That's why outside developers want no part of spending their money to come here and deal with that aggravation and every one of them want the same tax breaks/infrastructure from the public.

[HockeyPuck]

The land can be sold and then assessed and taxed? So what was stopping Nassau and TOH for doing that the last forty years? The Coliseum does not occupy the entire 77 acres, the Islanders owners never owned the rest of the property. They will not own it with this deal.

Someone did want to build exactly what you wanted AND renovate the Coliseum for you. Kate Murray told you she preferred concrete parking lots.

Maybe you have not figured this out yet, but Kate Murray, Joe Modello, Desmond Ryan, Al D'Amato, Tom Gulotta, Tom Suozzi, Ed Mangano, NIfa, Charles Wang, Scott Rechler, James Dolan, all want only what they want for that property.

That's why outside developers want no part of spending their money to come here and deal with that aggravation and every one of them want the same tax breaks/infrastructure from the public.

This excuse won't do. And if this is voted down, then the County will have the impetus to explore other options. How odd it is that you feel Ed Mangano is an idiot, but you trust him to deliver the goods on his own plan.

Just because it was turned down before, doesnt mean it should again, and that we the people should be held hostage to Messrs Wang and Mangano.

You seem to think that we should take a crummy deal just because a better one was turned down before. That's not logical

[Voting Yes Forever]

This excuse won't do. And if this is voted down, then the County will have the impetus to explore other options.

The County for the last forty years has had the impetus to explore it's options for that property, the Islanders and the Coliseum are not in the way of that now, in the past or the future so go and do it.

You turned down billionaires Milstein, Rechler, so go turn down the next one who dare be dumb enough to come here and be mocked for their efforts.


How odd it is that you feel Ed Mangano is an idiot, but you trust him to deliver the goods on his own plan.

How odd it is that you think I work for him then.

Even an idiot like Mangano can see regardless who the county executive is or what plan they endorses everyone (but you) understands that the closing of the Coliseum and the loss of the a million visitors spending money there is simply an alternative that cannot happen under any circumstances. That there is nothing coming to replace that revenue at best for a decade without the same taxes to the next Wang or Walmart will be demanding.


Just because it was turned down before, doesnt mean it should again, and that we the people should be held hostage to Messrs Wang and Mangano.


After a good ten years plus of huge tax increases, everyone only wanting their friends to get the property to make up for the empty hole you are demanding for not being held hostage, two or three county executives down the road will be doing the exact same thing another Mangano is doing now for the next developer.

And the same people against it will be doing the same thing they are doing now. Nothing changes besides all the revenue and business leaving Nassau which raises taxes.


You seem to think that we should take a crummy deal just because a better one was turned down before. That's not logical

You seem to think something is going there that generates over a million visitors a year to the tax base starting in October 2015. The only thing your plan does is take away all incoming revenue for a long time, displace even more local business and hope someday someone can defeat the politics that has defeated everything proposed for close to forty years.

You seem to actually believe developers are lining up to walk into this political climate and build you something for free without the same burden placed on the taxpayers.

[HockeyPuck]

The County for the last forty years has had the impetus to explore it's options for that property, the Islanders and the Coliseum are not in the way of that now, in the past or the future so go and do it.

You turned down billionaires Milstein, Rechler, so go turn down the next one who dare be dumb enough to come here and be mocked for their efforts.



How odd it is that you think I work for him then.

Even an idiot like Mangano can see regardless who the county executive is or what plan they endorses everyone (but you) understands that the closing of the Coliseum and the loss of the a million visitors spending money there is simply an alternative that cannot happen under any circumstances. That there is nothing coming to replace that revenue at best for a decade without the same taxes to the next Wang or Walmart will be demanding.



After a good ten years plus of huge tax increases, everyone only wanting their friends to get the property to make up for the empty hole you are demanding for not being held hostage, two or three county executives down the road will be doing the exact same thing another Mangano is doing now for the next developer.

And the same people against it will be doing the same thing they are doing now. Nothing changes besides all the revenue and business leaving Nassau which raises taxes.



You seem to think something is going there that generates over a million visitors a year to the tax base starting in October 2015. The only thing your plan does is take away all incoming revenue for a long time, displace even more local business and hope someday someone can defeat the politics that has defeated everything proposed for close to forty years.

You seem to actually believe developers are lining up to walk into this political climate and build you something for free without the same burden placed on the taxpayers.

It is amazing how much facile nonsense can be pumped out by one person.

I dont care what happened in the past 40 years, so you can stop leveraging the mistakes of the past in order for you to make another mistake for our future.

This stupid project will have no effect on our property taxes whether it goes through or not. Our tax problems stem from many issues, but this doesn't amount to anything of substance. If we had a normal police contract, and our schools weren't funded so haphazardly by Albany and our teachers weren't so greedy, and we junked our assessment system in favor of what NYC has, we would have no tax problems.

And I didn't "turn down" anything.

This project needs to go- its back to the drawing board.

[Voting Yes Forever]

If we had a normal police contract, and our schools weren't funded so haphazardly by Albany and our teachers weren't so greedy, and we junked our assessment system in favor of what NYC has, we would have no tax problems.

After conversations with you I would love nothing more right now to have what NYC has, over a billion dollars in handouts for a 2x convicted felon because he wanted a stadium so big it swallowed up the entire south bronx. A Brooklyn Dodger ballpark again with huge taxpayer hands and Bloomberg promising Willets Point be demolished for Fredo Wilpon's Brooklyn neighborhood.

Or you can give Wang, Msg's 1981 oermanent tax exemption 11m a year forever at 2011 prices, which would be around 25m dollars a year to Wang with Coliseum ownership and low cost electricity.

All as NYC school houses, NYC firehouses and services are cut by Mike " Three Terms For Me " Bloomberg.

All done in the backroom with no referendum's no NIFA and no legislature.

[HockeyPuck]

After conversations with you I would love nothing more right now to have what NYC has, over a billion dollars in handouts for a 2x convicted felon because he wanted a stadium so big it swallowed up the entire south bronx. A Brooklyn Dodger ballpark again with huge taxpayer hands and Bloomberg promising Willets Point be demolished for Fredo Wilpon's Brooklyn neighborhood.

Or you can give Wang, Msg's 1981 oermanent tax exemption 11m a year forever at 2011 prices, which would be around 25m dollars a year to Wang with Coliseum ownership and low cost electricity.

All as NYC school houses, NYC firehouses and services are cut by Mike " Three Terms For Me " Bloomberg.

All done in the backroom with no referendum's no NIFA and no legislature.

Excuse me- I was talking about their property tax system- they have ten times the land parcels and only one tenth the tax challenges. Ever wonder why instead of yapping about this stupid project of yours?

As far as your yapping about Steinbrenner, grow up already. Most of Nassau's ruling class is made up of felons- they just haven't been prosecuted- yet.

[Voting Yes Forever]

As far as your yapping about Steinbrenner, grow up already. Most of Nassau's ruling class is made up of felons- they just haven't been prosecuted- yet.

Different rules for different teams, shows your hypocrisy all the way.

Why should we give a 2x convicted felon over a billion dollars in tax exempt bonds and tons more so he can built a restaurant and hijack an entire neighborhood business community with a perfect stadium that was already renovated for over a 100m of the taxpayers money in 1973.

The last time the South Bronx near that pile of junk had a park to play in? August 2006.

Because he needed more food to eat or to give a fat baseball pitcher 150m dollars or our money the same week he was crying for even more cash from the public.

That felon even hijacked Tampa and had the taxpayers build his minor league stadium.

[Unregistered100car]

Why don't you 2 asswipes just exchange phone numbers? Same bullshit, back and forth. You're both getting on my fucking nerves.

[UnregAgainstThis]

Where's the live webcast? Wouldn't you know, more misinformation from VotingYesForever.

[HockeyPuck]

Different rules for different teams, shows your hypocrisy all the way.

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Oh, stop it. Why the hell would I care about what went down with Yankee stadium? Im not a City resident, and it doesnt affect me, so stow it already.

Besides, the Yankees are the Yankees- the toothless thugs on skates are nothing compared to them

[Voting Yes Forever]

Oh, stop it. Why the hell would I care about what went down with Yankee stadium? Im not a City resident, and it doesnt affect me, so stow it already.

Besides, the Yankees are the Yankees- the toothless thugs on skates are nothing compared to them

That's why the New York Islanders had more back to back championships than any Yankee team since 1950 and more playoff series wins in a row than any sports team in history.

In fact the last team in any professional sport to win four championships in a row was our NEW YORK ISLANDERS.

When Boston came back and humiliated the convicted felon's team down three games to none and came back and won four straight in the Felon's stadium and rocked the sports world, guess what's sports team got the attention?

The New York Islanders, who were the last professional sports team to come back down 3-0 to win a playoff series in 1975.

Only thing better was watching Red Sox fans take over the real Yankee Stadium and celebrate in front of the felon.

[UnregisteredSpammer]

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[UnregAgainstThis]

That's why the New York Islanders had more back to back championships than any Yankee team since 1950 and more playoff series wins in a row than any sports team in history.

In fact the last team in any professional sport to win four championships in a row was our NEW YORK ISLANDERS.

When Boston came back and humiliated the convicted felon's team down three games to none and came back and won four straight in the Felon's stadium and rocked the sports world, guess what's sports team got the attention?

The New York Islanders, who were the last professional sports team to come back down 3-0 to win a playoff series in 1975.

Only thing better was watching Red Sox fans take over the real Yankee Stadium and celebrate in front of the felon.

You are a sports fanatic, no wonder why you want this passed. I didn't know any of the above and I don't care about sports. Why don't all of you sports fans hit the pavement and collect the money for a new coliseum yourselves?

[UnregisteredSpammer]

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[HockeyPuck]

That's why the New York Islanders had more back to back championships than any Yankee team since 1950 and more playoff series wins in a row than any sports team in history.

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Now if THAT isn't a reason to back a flawed plan like this, I don't what is!

After all, since winning those back to back championships over 20 years ago, and doing anything SINCE then, we should certainly throw all caution to the wind! Especially since the Islanders franchise must be worth at least, uhm, one tenth of one percent of the New York Yankees!

Congratulations, sir. The orifice is wide open. Enjoy!

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[KilltheBond]

Board member George Marlin said county leaders have "exhibited delusions of fiscal balance." He added sales tax increases, labor concessions and other payments had failed to materialize.

"Today there is a crisis of confidence on the county's fiscal management," Marlin said. "If corrective actions are not pursued now to cure the county's fiscal ailments, Nassau will be plunged into fiscal chaos."

The panel took no official position on a scheduled Aug. 1 referendum in which county voters will be asked to approve a $400 million bond issue to replace the aging Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, which is home to the NHL's New York Islanders. NIFA Chairman Ronald Stack noted, however, that approval of the referendum would likely result in a 3.5 to 4 percent average property tax increase.

-AP-

[HockeyPuck]

Board member George Marlin said county leaders have "exhibited delusions of fiscal balance." He added sales tax increases, labor concessions and other payments had failed to materialize.

"Today there is a crisis of confidence on the county's fiscal management," Marlin said. "If corrective actions are not pursued now to cure the county's fiscal ailments, Nassau will be plunged into fiscal chaos."

The panel took no official position on a scheduled Aug. 1 referendum in which county voters will be asked to approve a $400 million bond issue to replace the aging Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, which is home to the NHL's New York Islanders. NIFA Chairman Ronald Stack noted, however, that approval of the referendum would likely result in a 3.5 to 4 percent average property tax increase.

-AP-

That's $600 a year for me. Kill this disaster.

[Voting Yes Forever]

That's $600 a year for me. Kill this disaster.

Here goes fuzzy math again. You are so much like Mangano, one of these tea party knuckleheads, with no real plan, no clue and your own revised history that contradicts all the facts that changes hourly when it conveniently suits your viewpoint.

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Where's the live webcast? Wouldn't you know, more misinformation from VotingYesForever.

This is voting yes forever - the guy that's running all around here - dissecting every sentence coming up with delusional responses to convince everyone else to vote yes when nobody wants this

He published the website live nifa meeting here and on his own website

He is very much invested in the colliseum deal and probably a close personal friend of Mangano & Walker


This is the idiot who is voting yes - his website posts mirror the ones he puts on here and of course the old boy who runs this site and gets handed $80k directly from the county won't delete his posts - but everyone else gets banned

tsk tsk boys - bye bye Eddie



http://www.newyorkislanderfancentral.com/2011/07/new-york-notablesprospect-camplive-nifa.html

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If nifa approves it must unfreeze salaries of county employees.

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When was the last time a politician made a smart business deal?

Especially now that the County is desperately searching for solutions to it's budget mess it's only more likely to fumble the ball.

How can you trust $400 million dollars to them?

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I hope you are happy.

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