Town of Hempstead Democratic Leader

[The Truth]

Is there one? Eleanor Sciglibkasejfewfhwuehfiu or whatever her name is. Does she do anything?
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[toh]

She has not done anything since Darcy spanked her in the TOH 2000 election. Other then raising school taxes through the roof as a member of the school board, she is a nobody.

[Party Girl]

Yes, she is a "nothing", but she thinks she is "something." That can mean trouble for the good people who know what they are doing. When you are "nothing", you feel threatened by everyone around you, and lash out at them. If a likable, knowledgeable person ran for TOH leader, he/she would win.
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[Mojo Jojo]

Just because they lost? All is most certainly not forgiven.

[Party Eye]

All she ever wanted was to become an elected official. She has tried a number of times and not even come close. Too bad for the dems that she is the leader of the Town of Hempstead. And I agree that she has done nothing since losing to Darcy. Time for a new leader.

[Party Girl]

I agree. It is time for a new leader. Best one we had was Grebinger, but the Republicans have him now. Who else is out there? Any suggestions? Any volunteers? And how could anyone who knows him even suggest that Denenberg would use a name like "Party Girl?" Get real.
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[Darcy Supporter]

Now that Eleanor proved that she is a do nothing as leader of the TOH Dem. Party, we need to get her out of here. Just look at the election numbers at the Town of Hempstead. Time for a change.

[Hempstead Dem]

Rita Kestenbaum!!!

Bright, articulate, full of energy and ideas. She would be perfect for the job.

She wanted to go after the town big time after the snow removal fiasco of a few years ago. But, as usual, got no assistance from the lazy Town Dem leaders.

Someone big has got to make this decision and give her a call. Maybe she just needs to be asked.

[Just Me]

Suozzi and Jacobs are in teh process of moving her aside right now. They recently called a meeting of active TOH Dems to discuss what needs to be done to build an organization in light of Eleanor's failures.

Eleanor is an example of Jacobs' failed leadershp with regard to rewarding loyalty above competence.
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[PoopedPimped]

They blew their chance when the late Gene Nickerson was County Executive. Didn't build a patronage base and have been paying for it for four decades. They haven't had a decent leader since that time.

Put Dave Denenberg in charge of the TOH Democratic Party. After a few years, have him run against Kate Murray for TOH Supervisor. At least someone with fire in the belly would beat her.

[TOH Democratic Leadership]

The TOH Dem. Leader's job is to raise money for the candidates. That covers about 80% of the job.

It's about fundraising!!!

[DT]

And if Denenberg proved to be a successful elected official, party leader, and fundraiser, he would be a force to reckon with inside Nassau Politics. I may be the opposition, but I must acknowledge that Denenberg is smart, savvy, and works hard. He could be the future of the Democratic Party in Nassau.
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[Citizen Kane]

A good Town Leader has to set themselves apart from their own self-interests. Putting a Town Leader in place, that is an elected official or someone who strives to be one, is a recipe for disaster. That person will always be thinking of how to strengthen their own power base, not the overall base. And they never want to see someone else succeed over them.

[In the Know]

What about Scott Banks as town leader? he served on the board didn't he? what happened to banks?
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[Darcy Supporter]

He got bounced out. Could not win re-election.

[Rita]

November only came close because of $$ from Albany and lost cause of lack of support on gotv by TRS and Jacob's not because of "organization".
the denenberg, gold,November,stonehill crew couldn't organize a club meeting never mind an election the only thing that motivates them is their noses up denenbergs butt hoping for some scraps, and dreams of glory!denenberg wins cause he is a working incumbent period, no brain-trust and quite narcissistic! He rode a wave in.
its everyone for themselves thats why they will never be a power because to share is not in their character!

[The Real World]

The races in the Merrick Bellmore Wantagh areas over the past few years have been far more competitive than in other areas of the County. Who knows if its Denenberg or some other factor, but the truth is the candidates walk to a lot of houses, go to a ton of train stations, work the fairs hard, are out in the community, send a lot of letters and do their own Get Out The Vote campaign.

Contrast what Denenberg's organizaion did the past six years, with the simply amateurish campaign that Dot Goosby ran for supervisor. There are lot more motivated Dem voters in Denenberg's district now then when he first ran. That shows his organization is working.

[Cicero]

No, it shows Denenberg is working. If it was his "organization," it would work for other candidates in the same area, no?
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[Real World]

Cicero - you of all people should know that Rome was not built in a day. The district is barely 35% dem. Gains are slow, bu they are gains.

[popstar]

Here is a person with no political savvy, no political background before being unintentionally thrust into the Council seat, and, yes, a terrible campaigner. If JJ has plans for Rita, then it is to his disadvantage. Here is someone who deliberately chose not to coordinate her campaign with November's 2000 campaign, who has disappeared from the scene. How can Jacobs have any plans for her? Makes no sense.
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[popstar]

But i"m on the run. catch me!
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[Hempstead Dem]

Popstar:

I think you may actually be Steve November. Whether you are or not, the facts are the same: Rita did very well as a councilwoman and to date, has pulled the best numbers for a Democratic town candidate in that district.

She did walk the district hard in 2000, and started in the spring. I know because I walked with her. Not sure about the animosity directed toward her. She is a decent, loyal well-liked person and your attacks are one of the reasons Democrats have failed in the TOH. They never stop attacking each when they should be attacking the Republicans as a united front. Sad.

[Chere Hite]

It reflects his ability.

[Kestenbaum?]

Before you spout your venom about my efforts on behalf of the residents of the Town of Hempstead, know the record. You have no idea about my constituent service in Elmont and West Hempstead. I drafted several pieces of legislation in the Town, including a night meeting resolution, a nuisance law, a resolution to stop the Town from charging civic groups for using Town facilities for meetings. In West Hempstead I led the movement to shut down the Curtesy Hotel which is running down that community. I dare say if I were still in office that place would be shut down!

I raised the issue of the unsafe fence line along the LIRR property in West Hempstead. A year or so later that fence was repaired. I am proud of that accomplishment.

I worked to enforce illegal housing laws in the TOH. Indeed, through my efforts sales of homes, where brokers actually advertised rental capacity of homes, were stopped.

You don't know me. You don't know how I became a voice for residents who never even knew their local representative.

Yes, I have friends who are Republicans. These are good people, who don't have an agenda or an axe to grind.
I worked with Republicans because I had to. We were the damn minority in Town Hall. To get things done for the residents who needed assistance you have to cooperate. I cooperated when I had to. I picked fights when it was warranted.

I am proud of my service to the residents of the Town of Hempstead. The fact that you consider me a patsy is unfortunate, but completely false. Get your your facts straight. I was fortunate to serve with Rita Kestenbaum. She is a caring, compassionate person, who served her constituents well.

If you have all the ideas, why don't you try to run against a Republican machine which outspends you 50-1. Try running against a Republican party which spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on television ads months before the election.

It's easy for you to criticize people who have the guts to put their names and reputations on the line, while you sit idly by. Shame on you!

[Hempstead Dem]

NSBESQ:

Thank you. You answered that poster better than I could have.

[NSBESQ]

I beg to differ with you that we had a unique opportunity to change things when I served in the TOH. To the contrary, a month or so after I won, I was faced with an immediate re-election bid. My time had to be spent learning to be a councilman (albeit without any support from the leadership of our party). We were alone in the Town. I had to spend my time dealing with local issues for constituents with real local concerns. My strategy was to focus on those issues because I had to get know fast in just a few months.

You can't do it alone. My campaign staff consisted of my wife, a few friends and family (most who didn't live in my district) and my dear friend, Scottie Coads. We raised over $50,000. I put a great deal of my own funds into the race. I served as councilman and campaigned at the same time. In doing so my law partnership suffered and eventually dissolved.

Besides Tom Suozzi, not one person in the Democratic leadership ever visited me or my colleagues in Town Hall, after we were sworn into office. Larry Aronson and Howard Weitzman did organize meetings with us to help with budget analysis. However, it wasn't enough. I was new to government and yet I did my best to adjust to this new experience.

I did propose a ten percent reduction in Town taxes. That proposal was defeated. I did not vote in favor of the Guardino budget.

I am no fool to think that Republican leaders or committee people were supporters of mine. However, Republican contituents did support me. I beat Joe Kearney in high Republican enrollment areas, like West Hempstead (4-1 Repub. to Dem enrollment), in North Valley Stream. I had a huge victory in Elmont. I even held my own in Republican Franklin Square. I was destroyed in the Villages of Garden City and Floral Park. In Garden City, Hillary lost by 12,000 votes, I lost by 8,000 votes. That was where the election was lost. And you know what, it didn't matter what I did for the folks of the TOH, Garden City residents were voting for Kearney no matter what!

I truly resent your statement that I wasted a "golden opportunity". That is not the case. I guess I also resent your earlier statement that I should never run for public office again. I don't have anything to be ashamed of.

Rome wasn't built in a day. You could not possibly expect three newcomers to government to upset 100 years of Republican rule in less than a year. I don't know who you are, but I would think you are brighter than that to think otherwise.

I guess I don't understand why people like you choose to attack people like me, who did nothing more than to run for elective office and serve.

[Baldwin Dem]

It's true that you did the best you could as a newcomer to TOH government. Hopefully, you will have another shot. You certainly have my support as well as the usual crew you know about when you think about it. Fundraising by itself is not the answer but it is part of the solution. Let's just say that efforts to really take the town have begun. Be of good cheer. Your friends are there.

[Question]

How is your cousin Doreen doing?
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[Lovely Rita K]

What is your opinion of Terry Butler working for Harvey Levisnon? Is she qualified and have an advanced degree or is she just a Jay Jacobs hack? PLEASE ANSWER

[Query]

Do you think that individuals who were employed by the City of New York during a time there was widespread bribery, fraud and mismanagement in the NYC Department of Finance real estate tax division be permitted to serve with you on the Board of Assessors?
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[Stormin Norman]

Shame on you for blaming everyone but yourself.

[NSBESQ]

Hey Storm: you don't get it. I don't blame anyone. It's simple political reality. I certainly find no fault in how I represented residents in the Town. Did I hurt anyone? Did I misuse my office? I did none of those things. If anything I brought honesty and integrity into politics. If you don't see it then I am sorry for you.

Hey Storm? Why so bitter? Did I do you wrong when I sat on the Town Board? What do you blame me for? Relax and enjoy the rest of the year.

By the way, why is it that everyone in this posting refuses to identify who they are? I have nothing to hide. Do you?

Query? I am on the Assessment Review Commission (ARC). I am not a member of the Board of Assessors. To my knowledge only Mr. Borin is from the City. My fellow Commissioners are from Nassau County.

[Query]

Are you familar with Scott Stringer's report as Chairperson of the Assembly Real Estate Finance Committee regarding New York City's massive real estate tax bribery and racketeering scandal, which occurred over the course of nearly twenty years and cost the New York City Taxpayers at least $200 Million dollars, and resulted in the indictment, prosecution, and conviction of fifteen assessors? I think it would be interesting to discuss NYC Real Estate Tax Administration strategies with Mr. Borin, who served as a Deputy Commissioner in the Department of Finance immediately before these indictments went down. How could so many assessors be taking bribes under the watchful eyes of Mr. Borin, or with the keen oversight of Elizabeth Dworkin-Botwin, who served as the Chief of the Corporate Counsel's Tax and Condemnation Bureau, and who currently advises your commission. As a fidicuary of Nassau County, you may perhaps wish tofamiliarize yourself with the events that occurred in New York City so that we can be ever watchful. Hopefully, Mr. Borin and Ms. Dworkin-Botwin have learned from the debacle that was the New York City Department of Finance.
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[Johnny Carson]

When you were at Town Hall rate the officials you worked with. And last question why do you think you lost taking out Garden City.

[EXGOPER]

N. Scott Banks is a passionate, caring person who deserves to be involved in government. I do not always agree with his opinions, HOWEVER, he is honest, decent and cares about people. He is the perfect foil for the staunch Nassau GOPer, who is really not a GOPer at all. Do the guys who work at the TOH Dept of Highways, Sanit District, Water Dept. etc really think they are Republicans in the true sense of the word?? They are clowns. They are parasites. They are oportunists.
People like SCOTT BANKS have and can and if given the chance again, WILL make a difference (FOR THE BETTER) in government. HAPPY HOLIDAYS SCOTT!

[Hempstead Dem]

Since I worked on the TOH campaigns in 2000, I think I can help answer the question I why they lost.

First and most importantly, was the Party leadership and organization at that time. Looking back, I can see that, for some reason, the party leadership didnt take these races as seriously as they should have. I have no idea if it was intentional or not, but the end result was the same. A lot of effort was put into the Judgeship races and even, unwinnable assembly and state senate races. I may be wrong but I feel all efforts and dollars should have been directed to the TOH races.

Second, of course was the funding. As Scott pointed out earlier, the Reps spent a ridiculous amount of money on their races.

Third is the fact that in 2000 all eyes were on Gore vs. Bush and even more so locally on Hillary vs. Lazio.
It was very difficult to get people to pay attention to local issues that year. And in Scott and Rita's district, HIllary did much worse than County wide so this did not help either. If you dont believe this theory just ask an average voter who they voted for in 2000, Hillary or Lazio. Then ask who they voted for TOH council seat. Chances are they wont have any idea.

[Elmont voter]

Scott was in a buzz-saw from the beginning. Kearney was a joke and could care less about us. Scott had no chance because the ballot locally for Banks was heavy against him. Having Skelos, Balboni and Alfano running that year cursed him. It's too bad he did a great job.

[Query]

In the Banks race did Skelos, Balboni and Alfano run? If so, they are known to be the most popular locals in the west-end by far. Scott you should of campaigned with them. At least you would have shown up to work at Town Hall unlike Kearney and they would of had somebody who got something done for Elmont's East End.
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[another query]

So, are you going to at least try to investigate the background of Ms. Borin and Dworkin-Botwin with respect to the Department of Finance real estate tax assessment scandal? Do we have another Pete Sylver or Robert Asti situation here? Did the County fail to thoroughly check backgrounds before hiring?

[loyaldem4]

I want to commend Scott on an excellent job as councilman. I know Scott and he is a fine lawyer and a true gentleman. I only wish he was on the ballot for County Court Judge instead of lightweight ex-goper ayers. Scott is a true Dem who has paid his dues and deserved another shot. Instead we get an opportunist who has given nothing to the party and has just taken Judge Brown's (another loyal Dem) law secretary as his own. Nice and classy move, ayers! Meanwhile, Jeff Brown must scramble to fill that position. Can't we find a better class of candidates than this me first ex-rep? Why have we passed over a first class lawyer such as Scott for a no class lightweight? What gives? Do any other rank and file loyal Dems care about this travesty?

[Tightfisted]

Whatever you want to call it, waste, corruption, fraud exists in any level of government. It is the responsibility of the Town of Hempstead Comptroller, John Mastromarino to root out any & all corruptive practices within TOH.

[Banks LowDown]

Here are some insights on the Banks-Kearney Race:
1. Kearney spent over 100K on the race from his area alone.. Not counting the west-end.
2. Town mailings boosted Kearney name id for a councilperson who was a no-show for a very long time.
3. Cairo and west-end leaders pulled all stops for Kearney and ran no races for Skelos, Balboni, Alfano and Judges. They were left to fight for themselves.
4. Kearney had walks with hundreds of people from special districts on weekends.
5. Kearney spent money and had Banks play defense in WH, Elmont when Banks should have attacked in Floral Park and worked a little harder in North Valley Stream.
6. Banks resources were too scarce and a great staff person in Scotty Coads could not do the whole lift.

Outside Insight:
1. Banks should have used his position more effectively in getting out into the community and used the office as an entre. I know easy to say but could have been done better.
2. Attacking the LIRR while a smart move probably put Banks on the radar screen of Dean Skelos who campaigned hard for Kearney in WH.
3. Banks should have used the Courtesy a little more as an attack piece against GOP.
4. Banks should have ID'd vote in WH, Elmont, NVS, and Dems in Franklin square to pull everyone.
No matter what however, Banks ran as good a race as he could. And, in the final analysis, while I believe Scott would agree with the insights, he knows too well he was but one and had a big job to do with very little to do it.

[Mojito Jones]

You are clearly misinformed. First, you can like Mr. Banks all you want, but the fact remains that when he had his chance to run for County Court, he lost, and he bitched and moaned the entire way. He did nothing but complain about Jacobs and Terry and others who were looking to help him. He burned far too many bridges to get a second chance. Second, why do you feel the need to denounce another candidate to make your point. If your only beef about Dave Ayres is that he is a former Republican, than you must have the same beef with alot of other good dems. Dave Mejias, Joe Scannell, Angela Iannacci, and many many others left the GOP and have become loyal and excellent dems. Finally, as for Ayres taking another Judges law secretary, that was done with the complete blessing of the leadership, and was initiated by the law secretary herself approaching Ayres and the leadership about the switch.
The bottom line is that Ayres is highly qualified, is a helluva good guy who ran a great race, and won a countywide race with only 2 lines. Stop your whining and try to do it yourself if you're so damn indignant about it!

[NSBESQ]

I don't know where you get your information, but the truth is I never bitched and moaned about anyone during my County

I raised money, and ran a hard campaign. No candidate worked longer and harder than me.

The Truth, Mojito, is that the only time I ever complained was about the lack of effort for our other Judicial candidates, particularly in the Town races. I thought it was a shame and an embarassment that Judge Fred Hirsch, was handing out black and white flyers, all alone at the Bellmore Fair. It was about October and judical candidates (aside from those who purchased lit on their own) had no literature to hand out.
So, yes, I complained for them. NEVER ABOUT ME!

You want the Truth? Mojito, "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"! (Gee always wanted to use that line)

Congratulations to Dave Ayers. It was a wonderful victory. He will be a fine judge.

Edited by: s at: 1/2/04 5:56 pm

[loyaldem4]

mojito, why the hostility? are you related to ayers? highly qualified? rumor has it the guy was a complete zero in the da's office. owes it to his first wife for cushy rep law secy job(mondello's law firm) who did nothing for reps while a rep. if such a standup guy why not resign your position and become dem. didn't see mejias or scannell collecting paycheck from reps while campaigning as dem(they at least stand for something)! he has contributed nothing to dems and now we won't see him for another 9 yrs. won with two lines because reps ran terrible candidate(another gift from ex-wife?) meanwhile a true dem jeff brown, who ran for us when we were nothing in this county, must scramble to fill a position!who cares if leadership signed off--the problem is leadership allowing this! scott and jeff are true dems!

[Query]

So now that you're on the "outs" with the party bigs, what do you think of former Chairman of the Board of Assessor Charlie O'Shea's opposition to Democratic efforts to gain real estate tax preferences for large commercial properties while socking it to the residential home owner? Let it all out..... Dude... They deserve it!
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[$15.000 To Run For Judge]

when only $10,000 will get you one in Brooklyn.

[Bargain Hunter]

Imagine that.... $10,000 in Brooklyn for a "lock" versus $15,000 for a contested race in the general election where you can lose, much like Scotty Banks did. Gee, if this is true, I wonder why Suozzi was able to select so many staffers from New York City government. Were these folks even untouchables as per the exacting standards of Clarence Norman?

[New Dem]

I'm new to the Democratic Party and went to a meeting in Valley Stream.

I'm confused about these posts regarding the Hempstead leader considering she was able to keep the Legislature for the Democrats by getting Denenberg, Toback, Scannell, Corbin and Abrahams re-elected.

Do you guys realize where you would be without her?

[Eleanor Scigxxxxxxx]

He will make a great judge someday in the far distant future!

[Uh Oh]

WHY
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[Another Hemp Dem]

Hey There Scott,

Boy have you been quiet! Your absence is deafning!

Is it true that they whacked you yesterday? Could it be over your post that you paid $15k to run? Nothing like getting screwed by JJ! If you are half the man you claim to be, then you should do like Tom Williams...see Fred Brewington and go after these guys. How stupid..why fire one of the guys that could take you down JJ & TS? Although Denis Dillion is a big zero in the world of political crime, I guess you have to start there. If you do not get any satisfaction with him, then take it to Elliot (our next gov.) Spitzer.

Another brilliant move there JJ!..Wow this administration is just rocking along .. Peter Sylver, Tom Williams and now Scott Banks! Who will be next..Uncle Lew?

[another hempstead dem]

In the city (sorry, DT) there used to be a joke that went something like:

Q. How do Reform Democrats organize a firing squad?

A. First, form a circle...

One of the few predictable things in life is that, sooner or later, we Democrats will set to slaughtering each other, usually over items too trivial to be remembered, or slights too minor to be of any consequence.

I don't know why Scott Banks wasn't a leading candidate for County or Supreme this year. On the merits, as a lawyer, he should be on the bench. He's the kind of lawyer we'd be proud to refer to as a Democratic judge.

He's no slouch politically, either.He did the party a terrific service by getting elected to the Town Board, an equal service running in a suicide race to keep the seat, and he ran a commendable campaign with no support. (Having been there myself, I know exactly how he feels.)

Do you have the right to gripe a bit when, self-employed, you assume the burden of a campaign and then don't get the help (financial and otherwise) that you deserve? I think so.

Is it embarrassing that Fred Hirsh is a law secretary now, instead of a judge, because the party didn't give him the support he deserved? Fred's loss is Justice Austin's gain, but I think we should be embarrassed over it. He is an excellent lawyer too, did his share of hopeless work for the benefit of the party, and he deserved better.

And now I read that Scott seems to be in the shite with some nameless somebody or other at Party Central, for some reason, with the implication being that it's over for him. I hope that it isn't so, but if it is, more's the pity. He deserves better and so, frankly, do we.

[loyaldem4]

Kudos to JJD!! We don't need egotistical lightweight former reps like ayers to run when we have real dems like Scott Banks and Fred Hirsh on our side. Wake-up people! Why are they passed over or given poor funding? Where was ayers when we were running and losing year after year? Collecting his rep paycheck and working against us. Where was he working for our candidates? Nowhere, exactly where you will find him for the next 9 years, then depending on the political winds maybe he'll go back to the gop. We are better than this! Scott and Fred deserved better. We are the major party now and we still turn to lightweights from a failed party. Why? Keep on stepping on the workers, JJ, and we'll be back in the minority in no time. Scott and Fred and Jeff Brown are the party not ayers. Put your time in for the party first like they did. Rumor has it ayers has no felony trial experience and this is our best? That's pathetic! JJ, you hear this? Scott and Fred will always have my support.

[LoyalDem05]

Then we'd see some action!!!

[JJD. Your Thoughts?]

You got to be kidding