View Full Version : James Kevins, cop on LOD disability running for Sheriff
Ripping off the Tax Payer
07-23-2005, 01:59 PM
How can James Kevins run for Sheriff when he is collecting three quarters, tax free, from Suffolk Police?
For that matter how can he be on the County payroll as an Assistant to the Sheriff while he collects three quarters?
Is he also Fire Chief?
Something is very wrong here.
If Vito wants to go to the DA with something real he should question this one.
Guest111
07-23-2005, 03:38 PM
Maybe he has a front seat at Butterfields. Teh rules only apply to those who aren't in the inner circle.
A police disability pension means that the officer is permanently disabled to the extent that he/she can no longer perform police duties.
Tischy 2
07-23-2005, 10:09 PM
I like him already.
How can James Kevins run for Sheriff when he is collecting three quarters, tax free, from Suffolk Police?
For that matter how can he be on the County payroll as an Assistant to the Sheriff while he collects three quarters?
Is he also Fire Chief?
Something is very wrong here.
If Vito wants to go to the DA with something real he should question this one.
Two issues here
1. Jimmy Kevins or any other police officer receiving a 1/2 or 3/4 disability retirement FROM THE NYS FIRE/POLICE RETIREMENT SYSTEM not from the Suffolk County police Dept. may work for another municipality or the same one without limit to how much they may earn. There are two caveats to this if you have not reached 20 years before receiving your disability retirement you are "capped" to earning up to the next ranks pay including your pension money. If you go over this amount the retirement system will diminish your pension dollar for dollar. When you reach what would have been your 20th year there is no longer a salary cap from either private or municipal employment.
2. As for how can he be on the payroll as an assistant to the sheriff? Jimmy Kevins is an Attorney and has been for many years, it is primarily for that reason that he is employed as an assistant to the sheriff. His duties do not require nor allow him Police/Sheriff arrest powers, hence he is not working as a police officer/sheriff. I am sure his current duties are far less physically demanding than his duties as a Full duty Police Sgt.
Kevin's ability to run for Sheriff is no more questionable than Pete O'Leary retiring as a Suffolk PD detective and then becoming a County Legislator.
How can James Kevins run for Sheriff when he is collecting three quarters, tax free, from Suffolk Police?
For that matter how can he be on the County payroll as an Assistant to the Sheriff while he collects three quarters?
Is he also Fire Chief?
Something is very wrong here.
If Vito wants to go to the DA with something real he should question this one.
Two issues here
1. Jimmy Kevins or any other police officer receiving a 1/2 or 3/4 disability retirement FROM THE NYS FIRE/POLICE RETIREMENT SYSTEM not from the Suffolk County police Dept. may work for another municipality or the same one without limit to how much they may earn. There are two caveats to this if you have not reached 20 years before receiving your disability retirement you are "capped" to earning up to the next ranks pay including your pension money. If you go over this amount the retirement system will diminish your pension dollar for dollar. When you reach what would have been your 20th year there is no longer a salary cap from either private or municipal employment.
2. As for how can he be on the payroll as an assistant to the sheriff? Jimmy Kevins is an Attorney and has been for many years, it is primarily for that reason that he is employed as an assistant to the sheriff. His duties do not require nor allow him Police/Sheriff arrest powers, hence he is not working as a police officer/sheriff. I am sure his current duties are far less physically demanding than his duties as a Full duty Police Sgt.
Kevin's ability to run for Sheriff is no more questionable than Pete O'Leary retiring as a Suffolk PD detective and then becoming a County Legislator.
Who are you kidding?
It is Suffolk County PD that had to allow Kevins to get a disability.
If he is so injuried that he cannot preform any duty as a cop how can he do basicly the same job now? He could not be a boss in the inpound yard, Data Services, Crime Scene, Pistols, Applicant Investigations, to name a few? Give me a break.
Being an attorney has nothing to do with the job he has now.
Kevins' ability to run for Sheriff is far different from O'Leary becoming a legislator. Kevins is saying his fit enough to be a COP again.
The way you spin things you must either be lousy attorney or the guy running Tisch's failling campaign.
Hey, at least Jim Kevins knows what he believes in, and what the Conservative Party stands for. He should be commeded for trying to preseve the intergity of the values of the Conservative Party. Has anybody asked DeMarco how he can be a Democrat and a Conversative thinker at the same time? He only cares about himself and his agenda. He has sold his sole to the Conservative in the wheelchair, and made promises to his kindergarten friend the Dem. chairman to please his money bags father-in-law. Seems he would rather have a son-in-law who is Sheriff then just a Deputy.
Real Story
07-24-2005, 10:13 PM
Jim Kevins is not going to win first of all. He was put on a petetion to try to knock out Demarco and then hand it over to Tisch period end of story.........................
the real truth teller
07-25-2005, 12:41 AM
Not end of story, beginning of story, Jim Kevins knows what he stands for and the meaning of being a Conservative. What is a Democratic Conservative. Please explain.
yourwrong
07-25-2005, 01:28 AM
Please.....we're talking about the suffolk county sheriff....not the President. Get some perspective. As for James Kevins, he is a civilian in the sheriffs office. He is not a p.o. But if he wins the sheriff election, let alone the conservative nod, which is virtually impossible, he will be legally considered a Police Officer. Im not sure but it seems to me that if he retired from the state pensions system on disability as a Police Officer, that he couldnt or shouldnt be allowed to be Sheriff due to the fact that the Sheriff is legally a Police Officer and also in the retirement system. Regardless of what his duties are. If that were the case any police officer who is disabled and unable to do the "functions of a po" should be transfered to other jobs in the dept. like property section or quatermaster.
Not end of story, beginning of story, Jim Kevins knows what he stands for and the meaning of being a Conservative. What is a Democratic Conservative. Please explain.
Kevins nows what he stands for? What a joke.
Tell us what does he stand for ripping of the taxpayer? Getting his entire family on the tax payer gravey train?
The only reason the guy is running on the Conservative Line is so he can prove a what a good water boy he is for Tisch.
Guest111
07-25-2005, 03:06 PM
Too bad the County, PD, and DA weren't as equally generous with the 3rd Pct cop who was locked up for fraud. The operative words in a previous post are: " police duties.
"Police Duties" carry a far and wide range. I don't know this Kevins fellow. And for all I know he is a nice guy. But let's face it the 3/4 thing is mostly a scam. No, I didn't get it but I didn't try because I was too lazy to go thru the process. Not that I begrudge anyone who does get it that doesn't really deserve it.
The trouble with 3/4's is there are many who are truly worthy and have to go thru the gates of hell to get it while those connected get it very easily.
I am a believer that if you get it you don't do any work. That you should get 3/4's of the prevailing wage until you die. Sure there would be exceptions to work but to run for a sheriff in the same county????? Come on give me a break. While it may be technically OK , it sure smells like hell.
ON top of it is you get the 3/4's and then you get another fat check which is taxable on it's own and your pension doesn't add t to the tax base.
The shame of this latest thing with Kevins is it can awake an outrage and the persons who may suffer are the legitimate people looking for disability.
goofyyuui
07-25-2005, 07:39 PM
hey remember DEMARCO IS A REGISTERED
CONSERVATIVE, NOT DEMOCRAT.
KEVINS SOUNDS LIKE A FOOL WHEN
HE SAYS THAT IN THE PAPERS AND
CAMPAIGNING.
I GOT DEMARCOS MAILER TO THE
CONSERVATIVE PARTY ON SATURDAY
Too bad the County, PD, and DA weren't as equally generous with the 3rd Pct cop who was locked up for fraud. The operative words in a previous post are: " police duties.
"Police Duties" carry a far and wide range. I don't know this Kevins fellow. And for all I know he is a nice guy. But let's face it the 3/4 thing is mostly a scam. No, I didn't get it but I didn't try because I was too lazy to go thru the process. Not that I begrudge anyone who does get it that doesn't really deserve it.
The trouble with 3/4's is there are many who are truly worthy and have to go thru the gates of hell to get it while those connected get it very easily.
I am a believer that if you get it you don't do any work. That you should get 3/4's of the prevailing wage until you die. Sure there would be exceptions to work but to run for a sheriff in the same county????? Come on give me a break. While it may be technically OK , it sure smells like hell.
ON top of it is you get the 3/4's and then you get another fat check which is taxable on it's own and your pension doesn't add t to the tax base.
The shame of this latest thing with Kevins is it can awake an outrage and the persons who may suffer are the legitimate people looking for disability.
If anything smells its your boy DeMarco and his way of acquirng party lines. Political jockeying is a game . There is another name for what he is doing. You wish to jump on a SCPD hero you couldn't carry his jockstrap. He does a dam good job for the sheriff's dept.
Don't be envyous because people are motivated . Thats what private industry is all about. Maybe it should rub off on some of you slow starters.
hero lol
07-25-2005, 09:02 PM
come on buddy. SCPD hero???? hero in East Cupcake????
try walking a footpost in Brooklyn then come back with your hero crap. I give more credit to the guy who works a cab in sufflok over scpd hero???
come on buddy. SCPD hero???? hero in East Cupcake????
try walking a footpost in Brooklyn then come back with your hero crap. I give more credit to the guy who works a cab in sufflok over scpd hero???
No you come on you ignorant moron. You don't know the first thing about Jim and his standing and as well what injuries in the line of duty he sustained, so stop your crap about walking a beat in Bed Sty. I know plenty of individuals who have done both and I give them credit , and as far as heros moron they exist in all walks of life not just where you say.
No you try walking through the jungles of southeast Asia with NVA and VC encusted in the trees.
Thats just about how you sound no different kind of dumb isn't it.
hey remember DEMARCO IS A REGISTERED
CONSERVATIVE, NOT DEMOCRAT.
KEVINS SOUNDS LIKE A FOOL WHEN
HE SAYS THAT IN THE PAPERS AND
CAMPAIGNING.
I GOT DEMARCOS MAILER TO THE
CONSERVATIVE PARTY ON SATURDAY
THATS COOL, SO HOW ARE YOU A CONSERVATIVE AND A DEMOCRAT AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE TO HEAR THAT LINE. THEY ARE AS FAR APART AS EAST AND WEST, AND HE BELIEVES IN BOTH. RIGHT--GROW UP
knowjim
07-26-2005, 12:44 AM
Kevins was on duty and investigating suspicious activity, I think on the x-way, when he cracked up his cruiser and broke his neck. It was no trumped up injury.
2sides
07-26-2005, 02:42 AM
Spota is getting both nominations. I did not see Kevins with his high morals run a primary against him.
Tisch was also quoted several times in the papers asking for the democratic nomination and he is a republican.
Tisch stated it would be good for the people of Suffolk county if both he and Spota was cross endorsed so they would not have to run a campaign and could better serve the taxpayers(lol).
its a big joke
07-26-2005, 04:43 AM
Come on now - just admit it...It's a big joke, right?
Kevins for Sheriff?
Truth be told, he's a nice guy, probably a good husband and father too. As a lawyer ---awwww Don't think he ever had a real case.
As an aide? Great job - very loyal and obedient!
As the next Suffolk County Sheriff? - Don't be ridiciulous!!!!!!
(but you see, this is only because of his loyalty and obedience to the BOSS)
Wow - talk about taking a bullet for your partner - Maybe he is a real HERO ? (either that, or a real jerk)
Come on now - just admit it...It's a big joke, right?
Kevins for Sheriff?
Truth be told, he's a nice guy, probably a good husband and father too. As a lawyer ---awwww Don't think he ever had a real case.
As an aide? Great job - very loyal and obedient!
As the next Suffolk County Sheriff? - Don't be ridiciulous!!!!!!
(but you see, this is only because of his loyalty and obedience to the BOSS)
Wow - talk about taking a bullet for your partner - Maybe he is a real HERO ? (either that, or a real jerk)
And you think DeMarco's credentials are better. Lets see a Deputy with 11 years and has not been promoted thus far. Please don't blame the administration. Look at what the hell your saying and supporting. You have negatives against an individual that DeMarco could not shine his shoes. WAKE UP !!!
guest10007
07-26-2005, 05:02 PM
FORUM: A public meeting place for open discussion. Which is not what this “forum” is by any stretch of the imagination.
I was discussing the issue of a LOD retired cop running for the office of Sheriff in Suffolk County. I thought my comments were reasonable, not inflammatory, and not judgmental as to the character of Mr. Kevins. I simply stated in so many words that I thought the idea of someone drawing down a very generous tax free pension should not be engaging in any employment with the same government that give him the pension.
Apparently my views and are not in step with Mr. as when I posted the other day I was notified I was banned. I have been banned before and vowed not to come back. Stupid that I am I did come back and maybe gave the Board another hit and thereby enriched the owner of this Board a few pennies. I will not make that mistake again. So don’t bother replying, either pro or con…. I won’t be looking in.
Or as a famous comedian once said: I wouldn’t belong to any club that would have me for a member anyway.
Dude....you got banned here? Thats pretty hard to do.
THE BEST
07-27-2005, 01:38 PM
I know James Kevins personally and he is an upstanding, moral individual. I saw Jim in the hospital with his neck broken---this is no joke and no fake injury. I think it is disgraceful for you to print this slanerous crap against Jim.
James Kevins is running for one reason --to bring back integrity to the conservative party. Dimarco may be running on the conservative line but he is a democrat in donkey clothing!
For all the conservatives, please vote for Jim in the primary. We do not want Dimarco endorcing the democrats.
I don't think the Sheriff is a p.o. It sounds weird, but I'm pretty sure it's true because bmp does not just issue an "honorary" basic police officer's certification to the winner of the election. Also, if you are a po you cant solicit campaign $ on or off duty, and there are other hatch act limitations to holding political office, so even though it sounds ridiculous, I dont think the sheriff has po status under the cpl, just the certified po's he/she employs.
guest94
07-27-2005, 06:28 PM
Actually guest you are wrong. The Sheriff and under-sheriff's are given police officer status according to NYS CPL-8 section 1.20 #34b
Actually guest you are wrong. The Sheriff and under-sheriff's are given police officer status according to NYS CPL-8 section 1.20 #34b
Actually if you look up the cpl you will also find out that Correction Officers of the rank of LT and above are given Police Officer status. Most in the departmaent do not relize this but it is a fact. Ever wonder why all C/O Lt.s are issued weapons upon their promotion.
So, Yes a newly elected Sheriff would and does get Police Officer status. All it takes in NY is the swipe of a pen, nothing more.
no peanuts
07-28-2005, 04:01 PM
Actually guest you are wrong. The Sheriff and under-sheriff's are given police officer status according to NYS CPL-8 section 1.20 #34b
Actually, you are wrong - learn how to read.....
34. "Police officer." The following persons are police officers:
(a) A sworn member of the division of state police;
(b) Sheriffs, under-sheriffs and deputy sheriffs of counties outside
of New York City;
(c) A sworn officer of an authorized county or county parkway police
department;
(d) A sworn officer of an authorized police department or force of a
city, town, village or police district;
(e) A sworn officer of an authorized police department of an authority
or a sworn officer of the state regional park police in the office of
parks and recreation;
(f) A sworn officer of the capital police force of the office of
general services;
(g) An investigator employed in the office of a district attorney;
guest94
07-28-2005, 04:28 PM
Actually, you are wrong - learn how to read.....
34. "Police officer." The following persons are police officers:
(b) Sheriffs, under-sheriffs and deputy sheriffs of counties outside
of New York City;
Seems to me that proves my point! WE ARE outsaide NYC
NO PEANUTS
07-28-2005, 06:21 PM
Actually guest you are wrong. The Sheriff and under-sheriff's are given police officer status according to NYS CPL-8 section 1.20 #34b
Actually if you look up the cpl you will also find out that Correction Officers of the rank of LT and above are given Police Officer status. Most in the departmaent do not relize this but it is a fact. Ever wonder why all C/O Lt.s are issued weapons upon their promotion.
So, Yes a newly elected Sheriff would and does get Police Officer status. All it takes in NY is the swipe of a pen, nothing more.
HEY DUMMY, IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT CORRECTION OFFICERS.....READ IT AGAIN!
guest94
07-28-2005, 10:50 PM
You are arguing with 2 different people--
Only the Sheriff & unders are police, was the point I was making.
Actually guest you are wrong. The Sheriff and under-sheriff's are given police officer status according to NYS CPL-8 section 1.20 #34b
Actually if you look up the cpl you will also find out that Correction Officers of the rank of LT and above are given Police Officer status. Most in the departmaent do not relize this but it is a fact. Ever wonder why all C/O Lt.s are issued weapons upon their promotion.
So, Yes a newly elected Sheriff would and does get Police Officer status. All it takes in NY is the swipe of a pen, nothing more.
please let me know where in the cpl it says anything about corrections officers Lt's being police officers....whatever this guy is drinking, make mine a double
[quote=guest94]Actually guest you are wrong. The Sheriff and under-sheriff's are given police officer status according to NYS CPL-8 section 1.20 #34b
Actually if you look up the cpl you will also find out that Correction Officers of the rank of LT and above are given Police Officer status. Most in the departmaent do not relize this but it is a fact. Ever wonder why all C/O Lt.s are issued weapons upon their promotion.
So, Yes a newly elected Sheriff would and does get Police Officer status. All it takes in NY is the swipe of a pen, nothing more.
You idiot jail guards do not have any idea what you are talking about. The CPL does not grant powers of arrest. It states who may have what powers. It further breaks down who is a police officer and who is only a peace officer. It further states what peace officers may carry a weapon and who may not. It also states that peace officers have a very limited right to carry.
To be recognized as a police officer in NY you need to receive the proper training and be certified by the state.
No jail guard in NYS has any power about peace officer.
Now go back to backing Tisch and his lackey so that come November you can look like the fools you always are.
WhiskeySour
07-31-2005, 10:51 PM
So who cares if Lt's and above have 'police powers'? It's bad enough getting a roster straight from them, and you want them giving out tickets? Wtf guy? Listen, just get the roster correct and sign my o/t slips so I can go home, and forget about that guy talking on his cell phone while passing a stopped school bus. It's the PD's problem, or the Deps when they aren't busy heckling us on these message boards..
The issue I have are with these guys who one day are divorce lawyers and then, due to an election, are appointed as Sheriff's or UnderSheriff's and think they are the greatest thing since Wyatt Earp. I mean, you have an elected/appointed guy telling senior hacks who have been around how the jail works- it's ridiculous. What a brilliant piece of Constitutional prose that was.
Give a lawyer a shiny badge, pressed uniform and a gleaming Crown Vic and watch their head swell like Floyd Wright's melon did back in the North lobby.....
[quote=guest94]Actually guest you are wrong. The Sheriff and under-sheriff's are given police officer status according to NYS CPL-8 section 1.20 #34b
Actually if you look up the cpl you will also find out that Correction Officers of the rank of LT and above are given Police Officer status. Most in the departmaent do not relize this but it is a fact. Ever wonder why all C/O Lt.s are issued weapons upon their promotion.
So, Yes a newly elected Sheriff would and does get Police Officer status. All it takes in NY is the swipe of a pen, nothing more.
You idiot jail guards do not have any idea what you are talking about. The CPL does not grant powers of arrest. It states who may have what powers. It further breaks down who is a police officer and who is only a peace officer. It further states what peace officers may carry a weapon and who may not. It also states that peace officers have a very limited right to carry.
To be recognized as a police officer in NY you need to receive the proper training and be certified by the state.
No jail guard in NYS has any power about peace officer.
Now go back to backing Tisch and his lackey so that come November you can look like the fools you always are.
To correct you on even half of what you have written would talk more time then you took to write it - you are an idiot - you are a fine example of a person with a little knowledge being dangerous. Go back to your comic books, maybe Capt Marvel can save you - better yet go back to the third grade and finish it, ya - I know it was the best two years of your life, but you really need to complete it this time - moron!!!!
Conservative primary
08-03-2005, 02:19 PM
word on the street is that kevins is going to get his clock cleaned in the conservative primary against demarco. evidently, his fate is tied to tisch who is losing ground each and every day. from what i hear, even the republicans are secretly acknowledging that tish is lost cause. vinny gets all the lines and tisch is lucky to hold on to the one he has now.
word on the street is that kevins is going to get his clock cleaned in the conservative primary against demarco. evidently, his fate is tied to tisch who is losing ground each and every day. from what i hear, even the republicans are secretly acknowledging that tish is lost cause. vinny gets all the lines and tisch is lucky to hold on to the one he has now.
So you think your boy Vinny is a savior. This half baked loser couldn't make rank in 11 years , and you think he is going to help you. Tisch is not by any means the perfect fit , however you guys lived with the most dishonest administration in Mahoney for 12 years. If your boy Vinny wins (IF) , people like you will be complaining about him within a year. I still put my backing with Tisch if not for anything but his ability to work the system and not kiss ass.
Think man, DeMarco is only in this because his father in law is ashamed of his current position in life. Not to help you guys.Its all about him. You may find this out .but only too late.
word on the street is that kevins is going to get his clock cleaned in the conservative primary against demarco. evidently, his fate is tied to tisch who is losing ground each and every day. from what i hear, even the republicans are secretly acknowledging that tish is lost cause. vinny gets all the lines and tisch is lucky to hold on to the one he has now.
The word on the street is DeMarco is petrified of a debate ultimately with Tisch. Look at the facts not just incumbent gossip.
Your boy DeMarco has criticized overtime he says its not necessary. You guys who work the OT and it is justified know dam well that DeMarco is only kissing up to Levy and his goons. Think man before you make decisions you will regret. It is obvious what this squirt is doing and the deputies will be the pawns once again.
idiot of the year
08-03-2005, 04:09 PM
DEMARCO IS A REGISTERED CONSERVATIVE, NOT DEMOCRAT
EVERY CONSERVATIVE VOTER IN THE COUNTY KNOWS THIS
word on the street is that kevins is going to get his clock cleaned in the conservative primary against demarco. evidently, his fate is tied to tisch who is losing ground each and every day. from what i hear, even the republicans are secretly acknowledging that tish is lost cause. vinny gets all the lines and tisch is lucky to hold on to the one he has now.
The word on the street is DeMarco is petrified of a debate ultimately with Tisch. Look at the facts not just incumbent gossip.
Your boy DeMarco has criticized overtime he says its not necessary. You guys who work the OT and it is justified know dam well that DeMarco is only kissing up to Levy and his goons. Think man before you make decisions you will regret. It is obvious what this squirt is doing and the deputies will be the pawns once again.
De Marco is not the person who made Deps pawns that was Tisch.
Tisch removed Deps from District court to try and get in good with CO's.
Most Deps hate working OT. If you look at what De Marco really said about OT you will see he is correct. Tisch has actually caused OT to rise. He is paying between 55 and 65 OT shifts between the 7-3 and 3-11 shifts in the jail so that he can keep the Deputies out of District.
If I was De Marco I doubt I would debate this corrupt Sheriff.
One, De Marco is way out in the lead in all early polls. He should beat Kevins by a 30% margin. Two, a debate with Tisch gives him coverage that he cannot afford. Just look Tisch lost money on his golf fundraiser. Tisch was fooled into thinking that his CO union friends were going to knock De Marco off the Dem line. He used a rope a dope against Tisch and it worked.
Just remember this: you can call De Marco all the names you want now but come Jan 1 you will be calling him Sheriff!
I would be interested in seeing a debate between the two - that would put an end to most of these allegations.
I would be interested in seeing a debate between the two - that would put an end to most of these allegations.
I agree let it be put before the public. I certainly would be more interested in that results rather than the crap thats being spewed on this blog. Where some of you guys get this bs from is beyond reason. Stop dreaming and start thinking like a voter. The poles show Demarco is ahead! What poles you moron. No one cares about the sheriffs race and thats a fact.So stop your bs gossip and look at the facts.Debating is one way of getting to the bottom of who should be sheriff.Its easy to critcize the person in office. Look at what Demarco is promising and then ask how and when if in office he would accomplish it.
Its easy to make promises much more difficult to keep them. If Demarco wins he will no longer be a deputy then he becomes a politician, and you could well bet the only promises he will keep is to the politicians that helped him in get in office.
WhiskeySour
08-05-2005, 01:48 PM
The debate(s) should be very interesting. The Collins/ Tisch debate was a yawner. There are some juicy issues that we as employees should pay close attention to (no, not whether or not they'll keep serving beef hot dogs).
This Dept./ Office generates some funny rumors. You need a discerning eye to see through the total bs for what's really valid- sometimes that lame rumor is in fact truth.
slo gin fizz
08-06-2005, 03:06 AM
Yeah - keep pushing the debate. Good campaign tactic.
The truth is, however, DeMarco doesn't need to go there-Tisch does. Yes, I'm sure Mr. Tisch speaks more eloquently and can be a master of double talk (most lawyers can), but just because a person can portray themselves to be itelligent does not mean that it is necessarily so.
Case in point - Bill Clinton is a great speaker - sucks as president
George Bush - not a great speaker, but a great president.
Case closed.
LIBERAL EXPOSER
08-06-2005, 04:27 AM
Hey, at least Jim Kevins knows what he believes in, and what the Conservative Party stands for. He should be commeded for trying to preseve the intergity of the values of the Conservative Party. Has anybody asked DeMarco how he can be a Democrat and a Conversative thinker at the same time? He only cares about himself and his agenda. He has sold his sole to the Conservative in the wheelchair, and made promises to his kindergarten friend the Dem. chairman to please his money bags father-in-law. Seems he would rather have a son-in-law who is Sheriff then just a Deputy.
jimmy kevins must be the only conservitive to graduate from BERKLEY!!!!THE ONLY REASON KEVINS IS A CONSERVITIVE, :shock: :shock: IS THAT tISCH"S LAW PARTNER SIGNED HIM UP!
just thinking
08-06-2005, 12:10 PM
I would like to know why Kevins is only running a Primary against demarco. Spota is also getting the democratic and conservative nomination as well as several judges. Tish was cross endorsed several times as a judge. Tisch also requested the democratic nomination for this election so he would not have to run a campaign. So if Kevins is only interested in the integrity of the conservative party like he claims he should have spoken out before this. It just shows his true colors.
Yeah - keep pushing the debate. Good campaign tactic.
The truth is, however, DeMarco doesn't need to go there-Tisch does. Yes, I'm sure Mr. Tisch speaks more eloquently and can be a master of double talk (most lawyers can), but just because a person can portray themselves to be itelligent does not mean that it is necessarily so.
Case in point - Bill Clinton is a great speaker - dddddddd as president
George Bush - not a great speaker, but a great president.
Case closed.
Case not closed, I voted for Bush . However, I would be hard pressed to call him a great president. Its what people perceive. Clinton had growth and smooth years . Bush has not. The sign of a great president or other leaders is how they tackle the issues and difficulties. With that I'm sorry to tell you a debate is necessary. DeMarco may have your support ,but does he have the general public. If he avoids a debate its a strategic error. He claims to know the issues , then thats all he should be concerned with.
No debate no win. I for one won't vote for someone who is afraid of verbal conferentation. He going into politics, is he going to hide from from the hard issues.
Yeah - keep pushing the debate. Good campaign tactic.
The truth is, however, DeMarco doesn't need to go there-Tisch does. Yes, I'm sure Mr. Tisch speaks more eloquently and can be a master of double talk (most lawyers can), but just because a person can portray themselves to be itelligent does not mean that it is necessarily so.
Case in point - Bill Clinton is a great speaker - dddddddd as president
George Bush - not a great speaker, but a great president.
Case closed.
Case not closed, I voted for Bush . However, I would be hard pressed to call him a great president. Its what people perceive. Clinton had growth and smooth years . Bush has not. The sign of a great president or other leaders is how they tackle the issues and difficulties. With that I'm sorry to tell you a debate is necessary. DeMarco may have your support ,but does he have the general public. If he avoids a debate its a strategic error. He claims to know the issues , then thats all he should be concerned with.
No debate no win. I for one won't vote for someone who is afraid of verbal conferentation. He going into politics, is he going to hide from from the hard issues.
Who cares who you vote for? This election is not going to be won or lost because of a debate. No one watches debates anyway.
This race is going to be won by the person with the lines. As of this moment that is DeMarco.
Tisch is a Brookhaven Republican with only the Republican line. He does not have a record worth mentioning to run on. Suffolk Life is going to endorse DeMarco because Tisch wants to spend $400 million on a jail.
DeMarco has 5 lines, is running as a Conservative Democrat and has Tom Spota in his corner.
DeMarco has both out smarted and raised more money. DeMarco is running a positive grass roots campaign.
Tisch is running a typical Crookhaven attack and dirty tricks campaign using his taxpayer paid aid to run against DeMarco.
Yeah - keep pushing the debate. Good campaign tactic.
The truth is, however, DeMarco doesn't need to go there-Tisch does. Yes, I'm sure Mr. Tisch speaks more eloquently and can be a master of double talk (most lawyers can), but just because a person can portray themselves to be itelligent does not mean that it is necessarily so.
Case in point - Bill Clinton is a great speaker - dddddddd as president
George Bush - not a great speaker, but a great president.
Case closed.
Case not closed, I voted for Bush . However, I would be hard pressed to call him a great president. Its what people perceive. Clinton had growth and smooth years . Bush has not. The sign of a great president or other leaders is how they tackle the issues and difficulties. With that I'm sorry to tell you a debate is necessary. DeMarco may have your support ,but does he have the general public. If he avoids a debate its a strategic error. He claims to know the issues , then thats all he should be concerned with.
No debate no win. I for one won't vote for someone who is afraid of verbal conferentation. He going into politics, is he going to hide from from the hard issues.
Who cares who you vote for? This election is not going to be won or lost because of a debate. No one watches debates anyway.
This race is going to be won by the person with the lines. As of this moment that is DeMarco.
Tisch is a Brookhaven Republican with only the Republican line. He does not have a record worth mentioning to run on. Suffolk Life is going to endorse DeMarco because Tisch wants to spend $400 million on a jail.
DeMarco has 5 lines, is running as a Conservative Democrat and has Tom Spota in his corner.
DeMarco has both out smarted and raised more money. DeMarco is running a positive grass roots campaign.
Tisch is running a typical Crookhaven attack and dirty tricks campaign using his taxpayer paid aid to run against DeMarco.
Hi MORON don't count your chickens yet idiot. You know NOTHING about politics nor character. If you did you would realize what the hell your friend DeMarco is giving away. He may be running a smart campaign , but certainly not an honest one. Where the hell do you think his $ is coming from . All you idiots can relate to is Crookhaven. Well Tisch is not part of that and when he wins I hope the hell you back stabbing cowards are revealed. By the way Spota has not endorsed DeMarco. You would vote for a person that has a selfish agenda not for the perople . Please go to sleep you uneducated jerk.
OT Guy
08-07-2005, 03:21 AM
Vinny says he will cut OT. Do youreally think he'll cut deputy OT?? The only way OT costs will go down is if they hire more people.
Hi MORON don't count your chickens yet idiot. You know NOTHING about politics nor character. If you did you would realize what the hell your friend DeMarco is giving away. He may be running a smart campaign , but certainly not an honest one. Where the hell do you think his $ is coming from . All you idiots can relate to is Crookhaven. Well Tisch is not part of that and when he wins I hope the hell you back stabbing cowards are revealed. By the way Spota has not endorsed DeMarco. You would vote for a person that has a selfish agenda not for the perople . Please go to sleep you uneducated jerk.
Wow must have hit a nerve! Lets see we have inmature name calling, ignorance, hate, and lies. Yes you are a Tisch supporter.
About 40% of DeMarcos money has come from either himself or his family. About 50% of it has come from grass roots support!
Tisch has always been part of Crookhaven. You saying that Tisch was not supported by Neppel, Acampora, Hazlet and Powel over the years? Well you should see the pics of Tisch with them over the years!
Only back stabbing done in the last four years has been by Tisch, he promised not play politics with employees and to give one union's jobs to another union. Tisch broke that promise and planted that knife in his employees backs.
Spota has filmed commercials and taken campaign photos with DeMarco, Spota is with DeMarco!
So next time Vito gives you koolaid I suggest you go for a shot and a beer, you have a long four years coming up!
Hi MORON don't count your chickens yet idiot. You know NOTHING about politics nor character. If you did you would realize what the hell your friend DeMarco is giving away. He may be running a smart campaign , but certainly not an honest one. Where the hell do you think his $ is coming from . All you idiots can relate to is Crookhaven. Well Tisch is not part of that and when he wins I hope the hell you back stabbing cowards are revealed. By the way Spota has not endorsed DeMarco. You would vote for a person that has a selfish agenda not for the perople . Please go to sleep you uneducated jerk.
Wow must have hit a nerve! Lets see we have inmature name calling, ignorance, hate, and lies. Yes you are a Tisch supporter.
About 40% of DeMarcos money has come from either himself or his family. About 50% of it has come from grass roots support!
Tisch has always been part of Crookhaven. You saying that Tisch was not supported by Neppel, Acampora, Hazlet and Powel over the years? Well you should see the pics of Tisch with them over the years!
Only back stabbing done in the last four years has been by Tisch, he promised not play politics with employees and to give one union's jobs to another union. Tisch broke that promise and planted that knife in his employees backs.
Spota has filmed commercials and taken campaign photos with DeMarco, Spota is with DeMarco!
So next time Vito gives you koolaid I suggest you go for a shot and a beer, you have a long four years coming up!
Hey buddy I may not agree with that guys name calling , but I certainly agree with his premise of facing your opponent. The money that DeMarco has come into is not just family money . You obviously hate Tisch based on your lies. However, people like you will ultimately feel the same way about anyone who takes office. I for one see a race between two relatively uninformed candidates. Additionally, I see the deputies never being satisfied. Fortunately its not up to them to sway this election.
In summary DeMarco has the Dems support and the independent line , oh the workers party.
Tisch has the Republicans.
At this point no one has the conservatives and you won't know until mid Sept. who does. Either way a debate would clear the air.
By the way deMarco does not have Spota's endorsement and definitely not the scpd. So Mr. know it all as the nasty blogger said don't count your chickens.
By the way if you answer this blog. What will people like you do if Tisch wins.To me it doesn't matter I don't work for the Sheriffs dept.
Just Me - Again
08-13-2005, 12:28 AM
When the last poster said that the Conservative endorsement was not Demarco's he was wrong. Demarco was endorsed by the Conservative Party leadership in April, and stands endorsed by the Suffolk County Conservative Party and its leaders. James Kevins - in collusion with Tisch chose to post a primary against Demarco and he has that right. But Demarco has been endorsed.
heellloo
08-13-2005, 02:38 AM
Al tisch's wife, sigs for Kevins
Don Sullivan, sigs for kevins
Denzler relative, sigs for kevins
kevins treasurer, same treasuer for a brookhaven REPUBLICAN club.
demarco has the full support of brookhaven, islip, smithtown, huntington, babylon, county, dan donelly. OFFICIAL CANDIDATE, HE IS A REGISTERED CONSERVATIVE
who does kevins have?
ken auerback and john kay...PLEASE...
Al tisch's wife, sigs for Kevins
Don Sullivan, sigs for kevins
Denzler relative, sigs for kevins
kevins treasurer, same treasuer for a brookhaven REPUBLICAN club.
demarco has the full support of brookhaven, islip, smithtown, huntington, babylon, county, dan donelly. OFFICIAL CANDIDATE, HE IS A REGISTERED CONSERVATIVE
who does kevins have?
ken auerback and john kay...PLEASE...
Please what , you think you know what path this is all taking . For a know it all you don't. There are more in the conservative party who are against Cursio and realize your friend Demarco has 0 backing amongst the cops. Please what ...You guys are so damned confident until you start complaining about the next sheriff.
Your hopeless.
What zero backing, DeMarco will get the DSPBA, DSIA, SHTPD, EHTPD, Police Conference to name a few.
What zero backing, DeMarco will get the DSPBA, DSIA, SHTPD, EHTPD, Police Conference to name a few.
Tell me what union is going to back Kevins?
Regular Guy
08-14-2005, 12:16 PM
I amnot a civil servant, but I have enjoyed reading these threads. I can understand why the people who work for the Sheriff care who wins the race. Why should I? Will it really make any difference to the average tax payer at all? :?:
What zero backing, DeMarco will get the DSPBA, DSIA, SHTPD, EHTPD, Police Conference to name a few.
I am a cop and your both wrong . The cops despise Levy and know DeMarco is his puppet. So stop you BS and admit the situation is not what your spewing.
I amnot a civil servant, but I have enjoyed reading these threads. I can understand why the people who work for the Sheriff care who wins the race. Why should I? Will it really make any difference to the average tax payer at all? :?:
Yes it will make a difference.If you read Newsday the other day Levy is quoted as saying "if the Sheriff doesnt put the Deputies he took out of District Court back,then he cant hire more C/O's."
The DSPBA is the only law enforcement union that backed Levy for Executive.Now that Demarco(DSPBA president) is running for Sheriff he asked Levy for a favor.
What people should realize is that move will cost the taxpayer more money.C/O's perform the same work in District court with nearly half the officers it takes the Deputies to do the same work.Deputies also require more training as police officers.So why pay someone with police officer status to maintain a holding pen in the basement of the courthouse.That is a job performed by correction officers in the jail,it only makes sense to have them do that job in the courthouse basement.They are sufficiently trained in handling inmates.
Hiring more C/O's will save the taxpayer money by reducing even more overtime at the county jail.The suffolk County legislature asked the Sheriff to reduce overtime in the sheriffs offfice and he is doing just that.
Demarco is trying to spend more money on the deputies he represents and he is not even the elected Sheriff.God only knows how much more he will spend if he were elected.
So to answer your question,yes it does make a difference to the average taxpayer.Al Tisch needs to be re-elected,he does not have a secret agenda.
oh boy waiting to see what the Overtime will be in Newsday next year. Granted Deps have almost no overtime now but CO's have just doubled the Overtime. And being that COs make more money the County lost alot more with the CO's making overtime than the Deputies working it.
oh boy waiting to see what the Overtime will be in Newsday next year. Granted Deps have almost no overtime now but CO's have just doubled the Overtime. And being that COs make more money the County lost alot more with the CO's making overtime than the Deputies working it.
The control is in the hands of the county exec. .When he denies hiring add'l C/Os or DP's he creates the OT situation , not the sheriff. So put the responsibility where it belongs. Tisch is faced with state mandates regarding the safety of the jail and at that same time must put up with the politics of a weasel like Levy. DeMarco is just writing checks( Promises) he cannot cash. He is the biggest mistake this county could make.
He is a Levy lackee.
enlightener
08-15-2005, 08:10 PM
oh boy waiting to see what the Overtime will be in Newsday next year. Granted Deps have almost no overtime now but CO's have just doubled the Overtime. And being that COs make more money the County lost alot more with the CO's making overtime than the Deputies working it.
The control is in the hands of the county exec. .When he denies hiring add'l C/Os or DP's he creates the OT situation , not the sheriff. So put the responsibility where it belongs. Tisch is faced with state mandates regarding the safety of the jail and at that same time must put up with the politics of a weasel like Levy. DeMarco is just writing checks( Promises) he cannot cash. He is the biggest mistake this county could make.
He is a Levy lackee.Sounds like someone is tryIng to get a free add here again. Tisch only follows the mandates that suit his purpose. He is being sued for not adhering to the mandates in the sheriff depts budget. As far as The overtime is concerned, You will FIND THE SAME NAMES IN NEWSDAY THIS YEAR, BECAUSE TISCH REFUSES TO CUT HIS CRONIES OVERTIME. iF YOU ARE A TISCH SUPPORTER YOU ARE STILL MAKING OT BIG TIME. DOES THE STATE MANDATE TISCH TO UNDER STAFF DISTRICT COURT IN ORDER TO BE RE-ELECTED?. SHAME ON THE CO UNION FOR NOT DEMANDING ADEQUATE STAFFING. WE ALREADY HAD A FEMALE OFFICER HURT DOWN THERE. THE DEPS ARE NOT BOUND BY MINIMUM STAFFING YET TISCH IS PULLING CO'S FROM MANDATED POSTS, BACK FILLING THEM WITH CO'S ON OT, WHILE DEPS RIDE AROUND WITH NOTHING TO DO. IF THE DEPS ARE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR LAWSUIT. tHE NEW CO'S WONT BE NEEDED ;IF THEY AREN'T THEN THE DEPS WONT BE NEEDED. LEVY'S ACTION IS FISCALLY SOUND. TISCH'S REQUEST IS JUST ANOTHE EXAMPLE OF POOR MANAGEMENT. I AGREE THAT TISCH'S PLAN IS COSTING MORE, BUT BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE INCORRECTLY IDENTIFIED THE WEASLE. A SHERIFF THAT CAN GET ALONG WITH OTHER POLITICIAN S WOULD BE AN ASSET TO THE DEPT. ONE WHO PLAYS CO'S AGAINST DEPS AND USES PEOPLES LIVELYHOOD AS SOME KIND OF POLITICAL TOOL, DOESNT DESERVE TO PUMP CESPOOLS LET ALONE BE SHERIFF. I'LL BUY ALL THE TICKETS DEMARCO IS SELLING. BECAUSE HE HASNT LIED TO US LIKE TISCH. AND IS HONESTLY INTERESTED IN THE BETTERMENT OF THIS DEPT. WAY TOO MUCH EGO ON THE OTHER SIDE!
oh boy waiting to see what the Overtime will be in Newsday next year. Granted Deps have almost no overtime now but CO's have just doubled the Overtime. And being that COs make more money the County lost alot more with the CO's making overtime than the Deputies working it.
The control is in the hands of the county exec. .When he denies hiring add'l C/Os or DP's he creates the OT situation , not the sheriff. So put the responsibility where it belongs. Tisch is faced with state mandates regarding the safety of the jail and at that same time must put up with the politics of a weasel like Levy. DeMarco is just writing checks( Promises) he cannot cash. He is the biggest mistake this county could make.
He is a Levy lackee.Sounds like someone is tryIng to get a free add here again. Tisch only follows the mandates that suit his purpose. He is being sued for not adhering to the mandates in the sheriff depts budget. As far as The overtime is concerned, You will FIND THE SAME NAMES IN NEWSDAY THIS YEAR, BECAUSE TISCH REFUSES TO CUT HIS CRONIES OVERTIME. iF YOU ARE A TISCH SUPPORTER YOU ARE STILL MAKING OT BIG TIME. DOES THE STATE MANDATE TISCH TO UNDER STAFF DISTRICT COURT IN ORDER TO BE RE-ELECTED?. SHAME ON THE CO UNION FOR NOT DEMANDING ADEQUATE STAFFING. WE ALREADY HAD A FEMALE OFFICER HURT DOWN THERE. THE DEPS ARE NOT BOUND BY MINIMUM STAFFING YET TISCH IS PULLING CO'S FROM MANDATED POSTS, BACK FILLING THEM WITH CO'S ON OT, WHILE DEPS RIDE AROUND WITH NOTHING TO DO. IF THE DEPS ARE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR LAWSUIT. tHE NEW CO'S WONT BE NEEDED ;IF THEY AREN'T THEN THE DEPS WONT BE NEEDED. LEVY'S ACTION IS FISCALLY SOUND. TISCH'S REQUEST IS JUST ANOTHE EXAMPLE OF POOR MANAGEMENT. I AGREE THAT TISCH'S PLAN IS COSTING MORE, BUT BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE INCORRECTLY IDENTIFIED THE WEASLE. A SHERIFF THAT CAN GET ALONG WITH OTHER POLITICIAN S WOULD BE AN ASSET TO THE DEPT. ONE WHO PLAYS CO'S AGAINST DEPS AND USES PEOPLES LIVELYHOOD AS SOME KIND OF POLITICAL TOOL, DOESNT DESERVE TO PUMP CESPOOLS LET ALONE BE SHERIFF. I'LL BUY ALL THE TICKETS DEMARCO IS SELLING. BECAUSE HE HASNT LIED TO US LIKE TISCH. AND IS HONESTLY INTERESTED IN THE BETTERMENT OF THIS DEPT. WAY TOO MUCH EGO ON THE OTHER SIDE!
Keep dreaming buddy the mandates are not chosen by the sheriff. The state issues the mandates and the county exec. provides or DECLINES the budget . Buy what you will ,your comments show your total ignorance and lack of formal education. Thats why a follower like you will always be in the shadow of a loser like DeMarco. Look at your critique of the sheriff and maybe you will realize why you are nothing but a loser. the person your describing is not Tisch . Its people like you that do nothing but waste the tax payers $. I earn my $ in private industry, and I will be dammed if the likes of DeMarco is going to collect my tax $.
Its people like you that give civil servants the name they inherited.
NOT ON THE GOV'T T!T !
08-16-2005, 07:39 PM
ARE YOU ALL KIDDING? I OWN MY BUSINESS, I PAY INSURANCE, WORKERS COMPENSATION, TAXES, ETC. FOR MYSELF AND SOME THING FOR MY EMPLOYEES AS WELL. I READ SOME OF THE STUPID THINGS WRITTEN HERE AND CANT BEIEVE YOU PEOPLE ARE STILL WRITING THIS CRAP.
THE AVERAGE TAX ROLLS ARE UNEFFECTED BY THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET. TISCH COULD GIVE YOU ALL A TWENTY % RAISE AND YOUR ENTIRE TAX BURDEN STILL WOULDN'T COME WITHIN A MILE OF THE TAXES I PAY TOWARDS THE SUFFOLK COUNTY POLICE DEPT. BUDGET. DO ANY OF YOU REALLY THINK WE, 9THE TAXPAYERS0, GIVE A SH!T WHO WORKS AT THE DISTRICT COURT, OR HOW MUCH YOUR DEPT. RINGES UP IN OVERTIME - THE ANSWER IS NO WE DONT! WHY DONT WE? BECAUSE IT IS A MINOR AMOUNT COMPARED TO THE MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS WE ARE PAYING OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND TO THE SUFFOLK COUNTY POLICE BUDGETS. YOU HAVE A TINY DEPARTMENT WITH A SMAL GOVERNMENTAL BUDGET SHOVED WITHIN THE ENTIRE COUNTY SYSTEM. YOU DONT EVEN HAVE A SEPERATE BUDGET LINE WITHIN THE TAX BILLS - YOU ARE STILL WITHIN THE COUNTY GENERAL FUND. SO DONT KID YOURSELVES, WE DONT CARE ABOUT WHERE YOU WORK, WE DONT CARE WHO WATCHES THE PRISONERS SO LONG AS THEY STAY IN JAIL AND DONT ESCAPE, AND WE DONT REALLY CARE ABOUT ANY OF YOUR PETTY BULL CRAP. THE POLITICOS WILL PUT THIS NEW GUY IN OFFICE BECAUSE HE'S THE NEW GUY AND THEY ARE DONE WITH THE "OLD GUY" , END OF STORY. IT WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE THE NEW GUY HAS ALL THE LINES AND EVEN I CAN FIGURE OUT THAT THIS KEVINS GUY IS RUNNING A PRIMARY AT HIS BOSS' BEQUEST TO THROW A JAB AT THE NEW GUY TRING TO TAKE HIS JOB AWAY. DUHHHHHH?
SO STOP TRYING TO MAKE YOUR CASES HERE FOR THE "PUBLIC" BECAUSE WE DONT GIVE A DAMN!
Amen, brother. Finally another person who sees the world as it should be. My neighbors and I feel the same way. Keep your damn OT and lets give all of you a raise. Christ people pay more for garbage pick up than the Sheriffs budget. Hire 70 and 20 more of each of you. Just keep the sludge and scum behind bars. Also, get those damn "UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS" off the damn roads, out of our schools and out of the emergency rooms. The taxes and auto insurance are going to bury this county, not some deputy or corrections officer who decides that that they would like to spend thier life working all the OT they can handle.
DeMarco's a Dupe
08-17-2005, 01:20 AM
Demarco has no credability with the cops. He will say almost anything to get his name out. Listen to his heming and hawing about the discrace of the Streets of Huntington.
He wants to line up his views depending on which way the wind is blowing.
Ps all thes memos and notes and "debates" are probably from the same two people. These party hard liners: Preaching party line crap to the choir. I just how those security guards are not typing their letters on doubletime...
Newsday-krap almost as bad as most of these new little propaganda papers. I disagree will Mr Wilmont on many issues but as least his paper presents editorials as opinions and they present both side of an issue. All of these " new" local papers are full of "slanted" news stories with hidden agendas and a slew of stories from their favorite stealth candidates." Just gimme some Truth. As Mr Wilmont would say and Why not!!!!!
Get a dictionary
08-17-2005, 04:21 AM
Hey Mr. Dupe - You write like a Dope. :roll:
Enough Already People
08-21-2005, 04:28 PM
I don't work for the County, but I do live here and it is a shame that so many of those who do work for the county and the Sheriff's Department have to use this informational site to raise harsh criticism of the two candidates in this race. I still don't fully understand what each part/section of your Department does, but am already tired of hearing what you don't have. All sides should be happy you have decent jobs that pay enough to allow you to reside here in this county. Nothing is ever perfect and frankly, I'm very sure that you all are necessary to the safeguard of our citizens. Try to look at what you writing before you press that button to submit your post. There are many people on these sites who simply are not who they claim to be and come here to piss others off. I am quite sure that the last few people who called them wanna be's or jail guards were probably not whom they claim to be. I also see a distinct writing style over and over in defense of Mr. Tisch on numerous sites. Each time I see this writing the author claims to be someone else and uses different user names. This person becomes seriously irate when someone fires off a volley at Mr. Kevin James or Mr. Sullivan. I'm not saying it is one of them, I'm only saying that one person has had an aweful lot to say in these texts under the guise of being six or eight different persons.
So read these ramblings, enjoy the controversy and most of all have fun with it.
I don't work for the County, but I do live here and it is a shame that so many of those who do work for the county and the Sheriff's Department have to use this informational site to raise harsh criticism of the two candidates in this race. I still don't fully understand what each part/section of your Department does, but am already tired of hearing what you don't have. All sides should be happy you have decent jobs that pay enough to allow you to reside here in this county. Nothing is ever perfect and frankly, I'm very sure that you all are necessary to the safeguard of our citizens. Try to look at what you writing before you press that button to submit your post. There are many people on these sites who simply are not who they claim to be and come here to piss others off. I am quite sure that the last few people who called them wanna be's or jail guards were probably not whom they claim to be. I also see a distinct writing style over and over in defense of Mr. Tisch on numerous sites. Each time I see this writing the author claims to be someone else and uses different user names. This person becomes seriously irate when someone fires off a volley at Mr. Kevin James or Mr. Sullivan. I'm not saying it is one of them, I'm only saying that one person has had an aweful lot to say in these texts under the guise of being six or eight different persons.
So read these ramblings, enjoy the controversy and most of all have fun with it.
Hey Sherlock I amongst many know Mr Tisch and Kevins and Sullivan. They are decent people some of the blogging that goes on is intentional to bring anger to this forum. Please don't ever think these guys only have a friend or two.
I for one am not part of the civil service roll . Additionally, I can speak for quite a few who have read some of the garbage coming from DeMarco supporters. In many cases deputies. This type of libilous print is nothing but a waste of time. The suffolk county residents will make up their mind on election day , and all the garbage that will be blogged will be nothing but that GARBAGE.
Tell us what are the lies about Kevins?
Is he not collecting a disability pension from Suffolk PD?
Is he not on the county payroll as Assistant to the Sheriff?
Did he not get his son a county job with the Sheriff?
Is he not running a primary on the Conservative line just to keep his job?
Tisch had the Conservative line last time and lost it.
The only lies being told are the ones Tisch and company are telling. Newsday nailed him good the other day.
I have another question, Tisch had his three top bosses with him when he did his political presser about OT. I thought it was illegal to have County Workers doing politics while working? Didn't Mahoney/Moris get in trouble for that?
Tell us what are the lies about Kevins?
Is he not collecting a disability pension from Suffolk PD?
Is he not on the county payroll as Assistant to the Sheriff?
Did he not get his son a county job with the Sheriff?
Is he not running a primary on the Conservative line just to keep his job?
Tisch had the Conservative line last time and lost it.
The only lies being told are the ones Tisch and company are telling. Newsday nailed him good the other day.
I have another question, Tisch had his three top bosses with him when he did his political presser about OT. I thought it was illegal to have County Workers doing politics while working? Didn't Mahoney/Moris get in trouble for that?
Hey you total moron read and you will see the crap that your type spews. Lies you invented them you and your ignorant type.
You could not shine Kevins shoes you waste. I cannot wait until Tisch gets in again so your type shuts their lying mouths. If you wish to start talking about utilizing county time for other than taxpayers needs .Look at your friend DeMarco. Read and weep at Primary time . You gutless wonder , open your mouth to the current admin. I don't tie my income to the taxpayer as you do loser.
ggggggg
08-22-2005, 03:28 AM
demarco will win, WATCH AND SEE
ggggggg
08-22-2005, 03:29 AM
demarco will win, WATCH AND SEE
demarco will win, WATCH AND SEE
Hey gggggg don't be so sure.
observer guest
08-22-2005, 02:10 PM
Tell us what are the lies about Kevins?
Is he not collecting a disability pension from Suffolk PD?
Is he not on the county payroll as Assistant to the Sheriff?
Did he not get his son a county job with the Sheriff?
Is he not running a primary on the Conservative line just to keep his job?
Tisch had the Conservative line last time and lost it.
The only lies being told are the ones Tisch and company are telling. Newsday nailed him good the other day.
I have another question, Tisch had his three top bosses with him when he did his political presser about OT. I thought it was illegal to have County Workers doing politics while working? Didn't Mahoney/Moris get in trouble for that?
Hey you total moron read and you will see the crap that your type spews. Lies you invented them you and your ignorant type.
You could not shine Kevins shoes you waste. I cannot wait until Tisch gets in again so your type shuts their lying mouths. If you wish to start talking about utilizing county time for other than taxpayers needs .Look at your friend DeMarco. Read and weep at Primary time . You gutless wonder , open your mouth to the current admin. I don't tie my income to the taxpayer as you do loser. If what Kevins claimed in his application for his disability pension is true, HE COULD NOT SHINE HIS OWN SHOES!! As for lying, Newsday exposed Tisch when he claimed he had nothing to do with Kevins running. Newsday also exposed Tisch when he gave mis info about the Dept OT. He tried to hide $800,000 in OT paid to CO's from the public. How about his pledge to take politics out of the Sheriff's Dept. Then there were the claims that he had the conservative and independant endorsements locked up. The lies only come from one side in this campaign. :oops:
demarco will win, WATCH AND SEE
You are bitter , why don't you quit and go into private industry and see injustice as it really is. Tisch is a lot more savey then you give him credit. Honesty in politics stop your dream'in . Please don't compare the likes of DeMarco with any of those guys in the front office. He has already lied about his education at St.Johns. He has already violated campaign policies by soliciting for donations within the sheriffs office So please Mr Know Nothing . Stop trying to blog your BS to someone that knows a hell of a lot more inside than you do.
Your a waste of time. By the way where are you going to work when Tisch gets back in..
He can always be a SCCOA Board Member
SJU Alumni
08-23-2005, 01:07 AM
I went to St.John's with Vinnie DeMarco. He also played ice hockey there.
Tell us what are the lies about Kevins?
Is he not collecting a disability pension from Suffolk PD?
Is he not on the county payroll as Assistant to the Sheriff?
Did he not get his son a county job with the Sheriff?
Is he not running a primary on the Conservative line just to keep his job?
Tisch had the Conservative line last time and lost it.
The only lies being told are the ones Tisch and company are telling. Newsday nailed him good the other day.
I have another question, Tisch had his three top bosses with him when he did his political presser about OT. I thought it was illegal to have County Workers doing politics while working? Didn't Mahoney/Moris get in trouble for that?
I see that no one has given any proof that all the above is not true!
You're An Idiot
08-23-2005, 09:36 AM
any proof that all the above is not true!
Hey, have you stopped beating your wife?!
I went to St.John's with Vinnie DeMarco. He also played ice hockey there.
Maybe you did. I think whats being said did he graduate with honers or at all.
Tell us what are the lies about Kevins?
Is he not collecting a disability pension from Suffolk PD?
Is he not on the county payroll as Assistant to the Sheriff?
Did he not get his son a county job with the Sheriff?
Is he not running a primary on the Conservative line just to keep his job?
Tisch had the Conservative line last time and lost it.
The only lies being told are the ones Tisch and company are telling. Newsday nailed him good the other day.
I have another question, Tisch had his three top bosses with him when he did his political presser about OT. I thought it was illegal to have County Workers doing politics while working? Didn't Mahoney/Moris get in trouble for that?
I see that no one has given any proof that all the above is not true!
Newsday nailed who . Your an idiot that reads into things your twisted way. So what if Kevins receives a pension . So what if Tisch is on another line. It shocks the hell out of me that someone as stupid as you even holds a job in the sheriffs dept.
Do yourself a favor look at yourself and wonder where the hell you are going. Stop degrading other peoples accomplishments and start counting your own. If there are any at all.
SJU Alumni
08-23-2005, 11:55 AM
DeMarco graduated and recieved a bachelors degree. Please stop the nonsense.
DeMarco graduated and recieved a bachelors degree. Please stop the nonsense.
No nonsense and no honors and no pertinent degree . So you stop the BS. If you would read some of his proporganda you would know what was stated.
M.I.A.
08-23-2005, 05:54 PM
[quote="Hey Sherlock I amongst many know Mr Tisch and Kevins and Sullivan. They are decent people ...
I couln't hep but notice you left out Denzler. Thats odd.... or is it??
Newsday nailed who . Your an idiot that reads into things your twisted way. So what if Kevins receives a pension . So what if Tisch is on another line. It shocks the hell out of me that someone as stupid as you even holds a job in the sheriffs dept.
Do yourself a favor look at yourself and wonder where the hell you are going. Stop degrading other peoples accomplishments and start counting your own. If there are any at all.
You don't see a problem with a cop who says he is too injuried to work and is collecting about $90,000.00 a year tax free all the while working in a very similar job for another $50,000.00 plus a year?
You don't see a problem with a guy who claims to be the true CONSERVATIVE canidate only running to protect his job?
You may think I am stupid, that tends to be the MO for Tisch supporters. But, very soon you will find out how smart the voting public is.
If anyone is twisted it's surely not me.
Newsday nailed who . Your an idiot that reads into things your twisted way. So what if Kevins receives a pension . So what if Tisch is on another line. It shocks the hell out of me that someone as stupid as you even holds a job in the sheriffs dept.
Do yourself a favor look at yourself and wonder where the hell you are going. Stop degrading other peoples accomplishments and start counting your own. If there are any at all.
You don't see a problem with a cop who says he is too injuried to work and is collecting about $90,000.00 a year tax free all the while working in a very similar job for another $50,000.00 plus a year?
Hey idiot I am sure my education and income dwarfs yours so please don't compare. Kevins was injured and deserves his DIA. You on the other hand are just envious piece of garbage that wishes you had the same. By the way your #s are all off. Go get a real job and stop complaining about other people loser.
You don't see a problem with a guy who claims to be the true CONSERVATIVE canidate only running to protect his job?
You may think I am stupid, that tends to be the MO for Tisch supporters. But, very soon you will find out how smart the voting public is.
If anyone is twisted it's surely not me.
Newsday nailed who . Your an idiot that reads into things your twisted way. So what if Kevins receives a pension . So what if Tisch is on another line. It shocks the hell out of me that someone as stupid as you even holds a job in the sheriffs dept.
Do yourself a favor look at yourself and wonder where the hell you are going. Stop degrading other peoples accomplishments and start counting your own. If there are any at all.
You don't see a problem with a cop who says he is too injuried to work and is collecting about $90,000.00 a year tax free all the while working in a very similar job for another $50,000.00 plus a year?
Hey idiot I am sure my education and income dwarfs yours so please don't compare. Kevins was injured and deserves his DIA. You on the other hand are just envious piece of garbage that wishes you had the same. By the way your #s are all off. Go get a real job and stop complaining about other people loser.
You don't see a problem with a guy who claims to be the true CONSERVATIVE canidate only running to protect his job?
You may think I am stupid, that tends to be the MO for Tisch supporters. But, very soon you will find out how smart the voting public is.
If anyone is twisted it's surely not me.
What the hell do you know about the public. You and your kind are nothing but leeches on the civil service payroll. All you can do is hide and moan about the current administration.
"Hey idiot I am sure my education and income dwarfs yours so please don't compare. Kevins was injured and deserves his DIA. You on the other hand are just envious piece of garbage that wishes you had the same. By the way your #s are all off. Go get a real job and stop complaining about other people loser.
You don't see a problem with a guy who claims to be the true CONSERVATIVE canidate only running to protect his job?
You may think I am stupid, that tends to be the MO for Tisch supporters. But, very soon you will find out how smart the voting public is.
If anyone is twisted it's surely not me".
For someone who claims to be educated so well you come off as an insecure little man who seems to be under the influence of alcohol.
Don is that you posting again?
"Hey idiot I am sure my education and income dwarfs yours so please don't compare. Kevins was injured and deserves his DIA. You on the other hand are just envious piece of garbage that wishes you had the same. By the way your #s are all off. Go get a real job and stop complaining about other people loser.
You don't see a problem with a guy who claims to be the true CONSERVATIVE canidate only running to protect his job?
You may think I am stupid, that tends to be the MO for Tisch supporters. But, very soon you will find out how smart the voting public is.
If anyone is twisted it's surely not me".
For someone who claims to be educated so well you come off as an insecure little man who seems to be under the influence of alcohol.
Don is that you posting again?
Once again moron I will match my income and education to yours any day. Go back to your brainless job.
"Hey idiot I am sure my education and income dwarfs yours so please don't compare. Kevins was injured and deserves his DIA. You on the other hand are just envious piece of garbage that wishes you had the same. By the way your #s are all off. Go get a real job and stop complaining about other people loser.
You don't see a problem with a guy who claims to be the true CONSERVATIVE canidate only running to protect his job?
You may think I am stupid, that tends to be the MO for Tisch supporters. But, very soon you will find out how smart the voting public is.
If anyone is twisted it's surely not me".
For someone who claims to be educated so well you come off as an insecure little man who seems to be under the influence of alcohol.
Don is that you posting again?
Once again moron I will match my income and education to yours any day. Go back to your brainless job.
Great exchange of info. one claims to be brilliant and the other is a physciatrist. If either of you work for the sheriffs dept. you missed your calling.
sooo confused
08-26-2005, 02:11 AM
It is just me?
I don't get it:
James Kevins (not Kevin James - he's the King of Queens guy) is the sheriff's aide
He recently donated to the Re-elect Tisch Campaign?
He's running in a Conservative primary against a deputy who already has the Conservative endorcement to run for Sheriff?
If by some miracle from above, he (Kevins) wins the primary, would he actually run for Sheriff against his friend/boss, Al Tisch?
And- here's the kicker: Tisch knew nothing about this?
You just can't make this stuff up. :?
Out of control
08-26-2005, 02:27 AM
I would rather have Kevins than tisch as the Sheriff. :twisted:
sooo confused
08-26-2005, 02:35 AM
I would rather have Kevins than tisch as the Sheriff. :twisted:
I would rather have anyone - who had a clue what his henchmen were doing!
I used to like Tisch
08-28-2005, 12:27 PM
As I wrote that I recalled a movie where the girl stands up at the AA meeting and says she was an Alcholic. Yes, I used to like Tisch, I actually talked to him many times. The guy seemed so sincere when he ran the first time, he made a boatload of promises and frankly didn't break any of them for almost three months into his tenure. I sincerely hope that all of the ridiculous, backstabbing, and underhanded things carried out by this administration were done without his knowledge. Even if they were, he still cant remain as Sheriff - he's just too damn stupid. As far as anyone can tell Tisch was talked into running by some old guard Crookhaven Republicans who were on their last legs and trying to stay in the game. Sullivan is an old time politician with zero morals and a bag full of dirty tricks and lies in his briefcase. Denzler is a private sector bully, turned cop buff, who has no idea of what it takes to run the jail. Murphy is a BULLY plain and simple, he has more favorites and pets than Bide - a - wee. Kneitel is a shrimp with a high school level IQ and a grade school temperment - this guy has imploded a hundred times in the last three or four years and always lays it off on someone else. Everyone in this administration is a bully and a tyrant without fail. The Sheriff's aid is a whole other story. Retired cop, law firm buddy to Tisch, basically hired on to do "the dirty work". He's the blag bag guy of the administration - right behind Sullivan. These guys have to go .
As I wrote that I recalled a movie where the girl stands up at the AA meeting and says she was an Alcholic. Yes, I used to like Tisch, I actually talked to him many times. The guy seemed so sincere when he ran the first time, he made a boatload of promises and frankly didn't break any of them for almost three months into his tenure. I sincerely hope that all of the ridiculous, backstabbing, and underhanded things carried out by this administration were done without his knowledge. Even if they were, he still cant remain as Sheriff - he's just too damn stupid. As far as anyone can tell Tisch was talked into running by some old guard Crookhaven Republicans who were on their last legs and trying to stay in the game. Sullivan is an old time politician with zero morals and a bag full of dirty tricks and lies in his briefcase. Denzler is a private sector bully, turned cop buff, who has no idea of what it takes to run the jail. Murphy is a BULLY plain and simple, he has more favorites and pets than Bide - a - wee. Kneitel is a shrimp with a high school level IQ and a grade school temperment - this guy has imploded a hundred times in the last three or four years and always lays it off on someone else. Everyone in this administration is a bully and a tyrant without fail. The Sheriff's aid is a whole other story. Retired cop, law firm buddy to Tisch, basically hired on to do "the dirty work". He's the blag bag guy of the administration - right behind Sullivan. These guys have to go .
(and people like you have negatives all over their pathetic lives)
Your a joke and certainly no asset to any administration. The likes of you should be exposed to the real world. Maybe then you would comprehend the image you portray.
Your opinion will only strengthen people like Sullivan , Tisch , Denzler etc. Your written blog above displays an uneducated blood sucker of the taxpayer. You know little or less when it comes to people and probably less about the job you collect a paycheck.
Hope you enjoy the next four years because no matter who gets in you will be complaining again .
Tru Dat
08-28-2005, 06:07 PM
[quote=Hope you enjoy the next four years because no matter who gets in you will be complaining again .[/quote]
Truer words have never been spoken. These are the same people who claimed they hated Warden Bednosky (God rest his soul) but now say "He wasn't so bad"
Bitch Bitch Bitch. Get constructive.
Warden Wes
08-28-2005, 06:43 PM
In regard to Warden Wes, it helped his memory that his replacement is such a tyrant that he made Wes look good.
If CE had been Warden, Wes would have continued to be seen in less than a positive light.
It is all a matter of perception.
Stuffing Envelopes
08-28-2005, 11:05 PM
January is around the corner my friend.
Perception Is
09-01-2005, 07:31 PM
Perception is one thing, opinion is another, and fact is a third thing. The fact is Murphy is a big fat pig with an agenda two miles long and not an honest bone in his body.
Perception is.......dont bang a girl in your recruit class. Your wife will be pissed.
SCSO Old Guy
09-05-2005, 03:33 PM
I am a uniformed employee at the SCSO , I have been here for five Sheriff's terms, four Sheriff's. I mind my own business, I do my job, and this job has given me the ability to provide for my family, provide for both my wife's and my futures. I have only started a new year with a contract in place one time in all those years. The PBA members cant say that, they've been catered to as long as they have existed, and why? Because they stick together, they have a clear message to their members, and they all want one thing - MONEY AND PERKS. We, (Deps and C/o's), have been missing the boat for so many years we should just forget about it.
Every time an election is near we pick one candidate and they pick the other. The candidates USE all of us to do their bidding, they pit us against each other and we allow it. You notice I am going to great lenghts so as not to tell you which job I am on - purposely done. I wish for once we could simply agree that we would pick a candidate together, and that we would establish a fund - together that would allow for ALL donations these guys would see from us. But the only way to do that is if we combine our unions as one. It would take an extremely strong man or woman to pull this off and one who could be trusted by all of us - but who and how do we do it? Until we join the unions, stop allowing them to pit us against each other - we are destined to sit back and accept the scraps that they are offering to the few who sell their souls to get ahead. Its no puzzle how Investigators are picked. Its no puzzle how bosses get made. Why are we allowing them to continue to push agendas that serve them. Remeber what I said earlier - I have been here for five terms. I am still here, they are all gone - except Tisch who is here now and could be gone as of January. The point is this is my lifelong career, for them it is either a political stepping stone or a politicians place to hide for a few more years or to build a larger pension. Enough already. Somebody stand up and start the conversations that need to take place and lets merge the unions, we dont necessarily have to merge the jobs, just the unions.
THINK ABOUT IT . LETS DO WHATS GOOD FOR US - NOT THEM !
WOW !
09-05-2005, 09:24 PM
Old dude, your ideas are sound but I suspect your mind may not be. I also suspect that you are a much younger man than you profess to be and probably not a "uniformed member" of the Sheriff's Office. The C/O and Dep union will never merge because there is so much unrest within both organizations that we could never agree on anything at all.
Joined At the hip
09-05-2005, 10:04 PM
Didn't there used to be one union here? I am not being sarcastic only asking.
guest99
09-05-2005, 10:05 PM
No never was, although we all used to be part of AME in the 70's.
one union
09-05-2005, 11:11 PM
Obviously you haven't been around long enough to know the correct answer. Yes there was one union , it was split in the mid 80's it was A.D.S.C.O.
guest99
09-05-2005, 11:24 PM
Sorry you are right, but it was very short time and very useless I forgot about it, before that we were all part of ame (csea) until 1980. and believe me I did 32 yrs in the Dept. I think I know about it I was there! maybe I'm just alittle burnt and if you think dsba and sccoa are bad you should have been on back then.
semi old timer
09-06-2005, 02:06 AM
If you step back for a second and take a look, you'll see that there is and has always been only one reason why the unions have not been able to merge: That would mean that each Union Board would be unearthed and taken out of those "perk-ridden, quasi-empowered, EXTRA $$, out of uniform, off the street, out of jail, paid to socialize, forgot what my main function and goal was- positions".
Don't think for a moment that the Administration is the only group that would like to keep the Deps and C.O.'s in constant opposition.
Why? Job security.
Why else? Selfishness
Unions are supposed to support and protect it's members:
ALL OF THE MEMBERS
what primary?
09-11-2005, 12:58 AM
Well, tell us please.
What is Kevins' format, experience, qualifications, background? Is it all a big secret?
Inquiring taxpayers (Conservative ones) want to know.
I just heard that Kevins has refused to debate DeMarco Monday night. Must be a reason.
I just heard that Kevins has refused to debate DeMarco Monday night. Must be a reason.
The same reason Demarco won't debate Tisch. Don't sell Kevins short. Your little man Demarco is not that bright..
Truth9
09-11-2005, 05:36 AM
DeMarco has not refused to debate Tisch. That is just a rumor. Kevins has refused a Monday night debate because polls taken this weekend show him winning the Primary by about 10%(60/40) Maybe Vito was right to attack DeMarco after all.
The BS trail continues
09-11-2005, 12:59 PM
The last poster said that polls taken over the weekend showed Kevins ahead? What polls? You are a moron, this is an unercard, (Conservative), primary there aren't any polls conducted because there is no reason to conduct them - ie: it doesn't sell newspapers or TV add time. Who conducted the polls YOU? Who did you ask your mommy, or possibly Tisch's mom or Kevins mom? Oh, sorry - Tisch's mom would have to be 157 or something just to be drawing any breath at this point right? I mean Tisch is over a hundred right? So who did you poll in this imaginary poll you so fraudulently quoted - Kevins and Tisch's wives. Or maybe Denzler's wife and his girlfriend? Or possibly Sullivan's family and his old warhorse drinking buddies from his D.A. days? Get real there was no poll, Kevins did flatly refuse to debate Demarco and Tisch has not returned phone calls referrence the question of debates. The only saving grace in all of this is that in less than two months Fat vito, and all the other liars can shut up and go home for another for loser years. At very least stop posting lies - after lies - after lies!
The BS Trail continues
09-11-2005, 01:04 PM
Four - loser years. (sorry).
I still cant beleive the Horsesh!t you spin doctors keep trying to put over on the world. I also found it quite interesting that you quote a poll that occured over "the weekend" yet today is Sunday. So even if your pretend poll was to be conducted it would have been a Saturday Poll , not a weekend poll. It's little slip ups in your post like that which show you up as the liar and fabricator that you are. Have fun in Tischyland or whatever Fairytale village you are the idiot of.
The last poster said that polls taken over the weekend showed Kevins ahead? What polls? You are a moron, this is an unercard, (Conservative), primary there aren't any polls conducted because there is no reason to conduct them - ie: it doesn't sell newspapers or TV add time. Who conducted the polls YOU? Who did you ask your mommy, or possibly Tisch's mom or Kevins mom? Oh, sorry - Tisch's mom would have to be 157 or something just to be drawing any breath at this point right? I mean Tisch is over a hundred right? So who did you poll in this imaginary poll you so fraudulently quoted - Kevins and Tisch's wives. Or maybe Denzler's wife and his girlfriend? Or possibly Sullivan's family and his old warhorse drinking buddies from his D.A. days? Get real there was no poll, Kevins did flatly refuse to debate Demarco and Tisch has not returned phone calls referrence the question of debates. The only saving grace in all of this is that in less than two months Fat vito, and all the other liars can shut up and go home for another for loser years. At very least stop posting lies - after lies - after lies!
You son are the moron. Polls in Suffolk are never taken to be sold to the media. They are called "internals", Friday night 84 people considered to be likely voters because have voted in the last two primaries were contacted. Saturday 97 people were contacted. Of the 181 out come was 54 to 44 (not the 60/40 mentioned by the other guy]. The question was this simple: "In Tuesday's Conservative Primary for Sheriff who do you plan to vote for James Kevins or Vincent Demarco?
Nothing else was asked of the question. DeMarco is in big trouble if he loses this primary. It will take all his thunder and support.
Not looking good for DeMarco
How could anyone in their right mind vote for Kevins?
The guy is involved in one scam after another.
He scams his way off SCPD with a major tax free pension.
Takes another job scamming the taxpayer as Assistant to the Sheriff.
Gets a job for his son scamming the county out of yet more taxpayer money.
Now he is running a scam against Conservatives to help Tisch continue his scam.
NONSENSE NOTHING BUT NONS
09-12-2005, 01:46 AM
First off your poll is nonsense. Secondly why didn't jimmy kevins screen with the Conservative party if he truly was interested in running? How come on his mailing he list this bogus committee as being the Conservative committee? The real Conservative committee that found his boss Al Tisch to be the best candidate last time around, is all of a sudden no good because they think REGISTERED CONSERVATIVE VINCENT DEMARCO IS THE MOST CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE RUNNING this time.(hmmmmmm) I guess if it goes your way they are good, but if it doesn't they are bad. It seems to me that the Conservative Executive committee showed great courage endorsing Vincent Demarco. They chose the most Conservative candidate this time not just someone because they were the incumbent. VOTE DEMARCO because it is the RIGHT thing to do.
PS. If jimmy kevins was to win would Al Tisch be his aid? :roll:
Tisch is not qualified to be an Aide let alone the Sheriff. He never walked a floor in his life.
I'm wearing my boots
09-12-2005, 04:12 AM
DeMarco has not refused to debate Tisch. That is just a rumor. Kevins has refused a Monday night debate because polls taken this weekend show him winning the Primary by about 10%(60/40) Maybe Vito was right to attack DeMarco after all. Get Real. I was knocking on doors for DeMarco. My personal experience, not some fictional poll, says 90% positive response for DeMarco. Why are you guys still lying? Tuesday will tell all. Kevins would be eaten alive in a debate. He'd have to explain why he donated to Tisch's campaign, why he didn't screen/,what he would do if he won/, and how he can be a homeland security liason, but not be able to perform any job in the PD.How his son could be a brookhaven young republican leader yet tell Riverhead PD that he is a Riverhead resident . Deception is the name of his game, and nobody is buying in!
I think the first thing DeMarco should do after he wins Tuesday is call NYSPF and ask for an investigation into Mr. Kevins and whom ever signed off on his fake disablity pension. Even better if he wins just think of the fun Newsday will have with Kevins.
Knock - Knock
09-12-2005, 08:31 PM
Knock - Knock !
Who's there ?
Al !
Al who ?
Thats what everyone will be saying on January 1st 2006 !
DeMarco has not refused to debate Tisch. That is just a rumor. Kevins has refused a Monday night debate because polls taken this weekend show him winning the Primary by about 10%(60/40) Maybe Vito was right to attack DeMarco after all. Get Real. I was knocking on doors for DeMarco. My personal experience, not some fictional poll, says 90% positive response for DeMarco. Why are you guys still lying? Tuesday will tell all. Kevins would be eaten alive in a debate. He'd have to explain why he donated to Tisch's campaign, why he didn't screen/,what he would do if he won/, and how he can be a homeland security liason, but not be able to perform any job in the PD.How his son could be a brookhaven young republican leader yet tell Riverhead PD that he is a Riverhead resident . Deception is the name of his game, and nobody is buying in!
Deception what the hell do you and your kind know of real deceit.
DeMarco refused a debate early on and will again during the general election campaign. Who ever wins you and yours will always complain.
Work in the private sector maybe you will then know what hard work and commitment is like.
Knock - Knock !
Who's there ?
Al !
Al who ?
Thats what everyone will be saying on January 1st 2006 !
as well as Deputies what in the world do we need them for, we have the SCPD.
Don't be so sure of a win bozo. Its not a sure thing..
Knock - Knock !
Who's there ?
Al !
Al who ?
Thats what everyone will be saying on January 1st 2006 !
as well as Deputies what in the world do we need them for, we have the SCPD.
Don't be so sure of a win bozo. Its not a sure thing..
Hey I would'nt mind working for big blue. The county just would'nt fire us. And if they lay us off, we're the first ones hired for a SCPD job. Fine by me: double the pay for the same job!!
I think the first thing DeMarco should do after he wins Tuesday is call NYSPF and ask for an investigation into Mr. Kevins and whom ever signed off on his fake disablity pension. Even better if he wins just think of the fun Newsday will have with Kevins.
I guess thats why people say deps are not real cops....a cop would not rat on another cop.....friggan cheese eating deputy
C/O Poser Too !
09-13-2005, 12:35 AM
I can be a C/O poser too.
Knucklehead said;
I guess thats why people say deps are not real cops....a cop would not rat on another cop.....friggan cheese eating deputy
Nobody said anything about ratting on a cop. But tonight Kevins has duped numerous members of the SCPD PBA into running a Kevins-athon from the union telephone banks. He has listed himself as a candidate and has Cops making calls for him under the guise that he is "actually" running for Sheriff. What Bullsh!t !
Kevins is the lacky "yes - man" for Tisch, and has been ordered by Tisch to run this in an attempt to force Demarco to spend money. Well, no money was spent except for a few hundred on a mailing. The bulk of Demarco's response to Tisch's underhanded tactics was to ask for help from his friends, and he got it big time. We went out and walked up to EVERY conservative door in Suffolk and explained what was going on. The reception we got was great, most of the people were turned off by Kevins stupid add mailer showing partial birth abortions and with a fake picture of Hillary Clinton and Demarco. Most felt the ploy was overt and very over the top, this mailing cost Kevins any chance he had. But wait till tomorrow and we'll all see for ourselves.
" he can be a homeland security liason, but not be able to perform any job in the PD.How his son could be a brookhaven young republican leader yet tell Riverhead PD that he is a Riverhead resident ."
Answer to issue 1. It isn't a question of whether or not he can perform any job in the PD, it's a question of whether or not he can perform the last job he was assigned to before retiring. How many perps does Jim Kevins have to wrestle w/ and potentially exacerbate his medical condition as a result of his duties in the Sheriff's office? The answer is none. The same can't be said for full or even modified duty assignments in the Police Dept.
Answer to issue 2. Look up the definition of Domicile versus Residence. That will explain the kids activities, not to mention I am pretty sure that the Young Republicans don't discriminate against people who are domiciled outside of Brookhaven.
Research this stuff before you spout it Forrest Gump.
SCPD Old TIMER
09-13-2005, 07:38 AM
Kevins used to sleep on every tour. He had a reputation for sleeping every tour away. That is how he got in that accident he fell asleep. He is a piece of garbage.
Kevins used to sleep on every tour. He had a reputation for sleeping every tour away. That is how he got in that accident he fell asleep. He is a piece of garbage.
You pathetic piece of garbage. You know crap .I was his immediate supervisor. You are a lying sack of garbage. Why don't you through your lies to your own kind .Lazy , envious , jealous do nothings.
Stop your BS .
Kevins used to sleep on every tour. He had a reputation for sleeping every tour away. That is how he got in that accident he fell asleep. He is a piece of garbage.
Maybe if a certain Hwy. PO had done his job and gotten the DM vehicle off of the road like he was supposed to do and didn't because he was following around his wife, Kevins might not have had that accident. He was directed to remove the car and didn't. Kevins paid for the PO's negligence with his neck. If it had been a civilian who whacked that car they would have recovered from the POs negligence, but workers comp. rules prevented that for Jimmy.
Results are in- Demarco won primary!
REAL CONSERVATIVE VOTER
09-14-2005, 04:11 AM
Demarco, Vincent F. 1,405 votes for a 53.75 % share of the vote.
Mr. Kevins is still the Sheriff's currier/aid.
Demarco now has every line in the November 08, 2006 election except for the Republican line which was given to Tisch.
With an average turnout for a primary the Suffolk County Board of Elections ruled Demarco the clear winner after a brief re - count for accuracy. With only 48 absentee ballots and Demarco ahead by 204 votes Demarco was declared the winner.
YOU GO VINNY !
AND MORE LITERALLY - YOU CAN GO NOW KEVINS AND TISCH ET AL.
I could be your supervisor. I have College.
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