Affordable Housing Suozzi style

[curious]

which communities are targeted for affordable housing- Suozzi's new Suburbia? Is Suozzi advocating affordable housing for surplus county properties, including the Social Services property currently for sale in Garden City? How about his plan to subdivide his own property in Glen Cove, is he putting cluster apartments on it?
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INFANT PRILOSEC (http://www.classactionsettlements.org/lawsuit/prilosec/)

[FIX NASSAU]

DUMP SUOZZI IN 2005

[HMS929]

Long Beach?? Theres plenty of room for some affordable housing down there

[passion]

Is this really about housing? or are just racist. I admire Suozzi for making his an inclusive county. You hateful bastard.

What the hell is racist about asking about affordable housing?

The lack of affordable housing is one which affects everyone from poor black families, to immigrants to new college grads and highly educated married couples making over $100,000 per year, like myself. NONE of these groups can find a decent house in this county for a reasonable price. For myself, I cant find one CLOSE to the one where I grew up, in terms of quality and nice neighborhood. And I grew up in a cape in North Bellmore, not a tudor in Strathmore.

If you immediately think only minorities need affordable housing, maybe its YOU who are the racist bigot, as it seems you can only see in black or white.

[passion-has none]

immigrants take up most of the affordable housing around, housing which normally would go to first time buyers and renters.

Illegal aliens also fill up many dwellings that landlords own by the thousands. government never enforces these rat traps for they always say, where will these poor aliens go?

Meanwhile your local slumlord collects tax payer section 8 housing vouchers and money from illegals to make a hefty profit.

One of the many reasons why immigration is out of control. It's big bucks to the real estate industry and in many cases it's your bucks.

The issue does have a lot to do with race. Long Islander want cheaper housing and less taxes but they are afraid that such a situation will invite more minorities into their communities.

Who “guest” says that he wants to find a nice place in the neighborhood where he grew up. I can guarantee you that “nice” have a lot to do with the population. I applaud Tom Suozzi for try to create more affordable housing. I do not care if that means inviting more minorities to the Island. We are already one of the most segregated counties in the state. I think that Tom will solve two problems by supporting housing reform.

[Nero]

Workforce housing is no joke and has nothing to do with race or immigrants. You just have to be rich to buy a new home. In the last session of the NY Legislature, a bipartisan Workforce Housing Bill sponsored by DiNapoli won UNANIMOUS approval...but never came to a Senate vote! This would provide that developers set aside at least 10% of all new projects for families of four whose income is less than 80% of the Nassau-Suffolk median income compiled by the U.S. Government for the SMSA. For 2003, that was $83,700...A developer would get some credit.

DiNapoli will reintroduce this year. All the LI senators -- Republicans -- support this. At least this is a constructive way to try something for L.I. The prices are like Crazy Eddie, you know....Insane!

[Tommy tax boy!]

Want affordable housing cut my taxes, Tommy Boy!!

[to: tom suozzi]

how about some affordable housing in nassau county for the averge middle white class family. my husband and i make 135,000 a year between both of us but there is no way we can afford a house. not even in levittown - what a disgrace.

[Lindsay Lohan]

I want affordable housing. I want it now and the reps and Dems ownt give it to me.

[BIlly Cunningham]

I make $165 with Nassau and live in Suffolk. I live well-whats the problem?

[8 units]

Is this a joke? Tom's bragging on what he's doing for us and claiming his implemented affordable housing projects to ease the suffering of the young, the old, the singles and the working class but yet --- what does this air blowing, breast thumping, self congratulatory project actually consist of? 8 lousy units.

It's as useful as all the media attention he gave out when his sherrif's allegedly did a "sweep" of deadbeat dads. What they'd catch? At most 10 guys. There's thousands out there, 1/2 their kids we support through public assistance.

Stop bragging Tom. You've got nothing to be proud of.

[Grumman Property]

For what he paid to buy that property it wouldn't make good business sense to use that land for affordable housing, although it sure would have been a nice use for a large chunk of land if a smarter negotiator took over.

[Mexicans on the Waterfron]

Too bad Suozzi isn't as good to us legal resident, taxpaying, lower middle income laborers here on long island as he is to the illegal, non-taxpaying immigrants. He gave them a nice piece of waterfront property in Glen Cove. That's more than he's getting for the rest of us. He's sure not paying millions for Grumman land to put up affordable housing for us - that's for sure.

[Glen Cove Madam]

Suozzi in to deep with Newsday and vice a versa. They have to be kind to the illegals because they help a lot of businesses, including mine :oops:

[Not Karl Hungus]

What exactly are you talking about when you say "they" received a waterfront parcel in Glen Cove?

[Cheap rent- share w/ lion]

Suozzi's idea of affordable housing ---- rooming with a lion!

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What do they mean when they say Suozzi gave the waterfront away? His waterfront that he revitalized once already - and won a campaign because people didn't check him on it - or illegals did all the voting maybe (talk about those petitions lets) - and then tried to get air play for his Glen Cove cronies for revitalizing it again?

Tell you what pal - if you still don't get what we mean by labor camps - go down there some day. Don't take the kids, don't go at night, don't take a wallet, don't wear your watch, rent an old car and wear sneakers - but go.

Stay away. Walk around. Take in the sites. Try speaking with the locals you see huddled all around you. No, strike that (too dangerous - especially if you're a woman). But you'll get the picture. And if you get the picture in the dead of winter, you can use your imagination of how bad it gets when the weather is nice.

Don' t ever believe anything you read in Newsday and never, never believe the Suozz. Check it all out for yourself and the truth shall lead you to

the GOP tent.

[Not Karl Hungus]

What the h__l are you taking about? You mean if I go down to the Glen Cove waterfront, I will see labor camps and huddled masses of miscreants?

I do go to the waterfront and I do walk around. What am I not seeing that you are? Right now, there's not a lot of anything there other than the existing businesses and empty lots that are supposed to be developed.

So far, Suozzi's vision is a pipe dream, but there are people working to turn it into something. If they're successful, it will be because of their hard work, not Suozzi's.

Stop talking in circles, get to the point and say something that you can back up. Give me a street, a lot, a business where I can go and see a "labor camp"? Herbhill Road? Garvies Point?, the Hempstead Harbor Club? the old ferry terminal? Steamboat Landing?

[It's clear to me]

I think the post was pretty clear. Of course, you need to be able to read English. The post is making reference to the site Suozzi set-up for the day laborers. Most likely, the people you are using in your business. Perhaps that's why you don't recognize them for what they are. You and Suozzi consider them employees. We consider them illegal leaches that should be deported. I'm sure though, that you'd rather pretend they don't exist, because you believe their labor camps are where you developers are going to get the cheap brawn you need to develope the property and make your profits.

[Not Karl Hungus]

I put my anti-rascist, anti-immigrant, anti-Fascist glasses on and I saw your message:

A "labor camp" is a shape-up for undocumented workers/illegal aliens (choose your term). The "waterfront" is some mythical place full of "evil-doers" you conjur up to perpetuate the image of ghetto to scare the ignorant masses to whom your trying to appeal.

The shape-up that I'm aware of is located near the SC train station...no where near the waterfront. If it's moved, tell me where it is. I go to the waterfront and I haven't seen evidence of it there. If it is there, I question whether it's had any affect on the waterfront.

I am not a developer, builder, landscaper, etc., nor does the company I work for employ "illegals". I know the people who are working to develop the waterfront and they have a vision and an A-team (Beyer Blinder Belle) working to bring it about. I wish them success and you should, too.

Go right ahead and throw mud on Suozzi for starting something (the waterfront) and not staying around to see it finished, and for making myriad stupid decisions and using questionable ethics.

But your image of the waterfront doesn't hold water and just craps all over the people in Glen Cove who are working to make things better.

[Just down the road]

Ok - so it's not the waterfront. It's just alittle piece down the road. Another section where he can hide it better - like he tries to hide the fraudulent bookkeeping and the corruption in his administration? What difference does it make? Two facts nobody can dispute - he ran for county executive on the platform that he revitalized the glen cove waterfront. And he didn't. He's forcing the people to use their money and their time to do what he didn't, then he tries to take credit for something he didn't do and isn't doing. Second - he set up illegal immigrants with taxpayer dollars instead of arresting them for loitering.

[Not Karl Hungus]

I appreciate the fact that you acknowledged your error. Your distate for Suozzi and his legacy shouldn't get in the way of the facts.

It does make a difference when good people are trying to make something good happen on the waterfront and someone craps on it trying to make their argument at the expense of those people. Like I said, we all should be wishing them success.

That's over, so let's move on. When you leave out the extraneous stuff, you make some good points about Suozzi and his admininstration. I don't think he should be encouraged to seek higher office until he's followed through on the commitments he's already made. And with the track record he already has (Sylver, Parks Dept., the Hub, RE consolidation), it's not much to run on anyway, even for re-election. He's also done some good things, though, too.

I can't agree with arresting undocumented workers for loitering. Instead, the contractors that hire them should be prosecuted. Then see how fast people complain as the price of next year's landscaping contract or house-painting job doubles.

[Your opinion]

Your're entitled to your opinion Karl, even though I think you're an idiot. The waterfront is a disaster - I agree with the previous posters. I won't let my kids there at night. The day laborers are all over that side of Glen Cove. The coops there lost there market value and are pretty much worthless now thanks to Suozzi. He's done NOTHING good for Nassau County. The budget is a lie - the numbers don't add-up because there are several multi-million dollar judgments laying around gathering interest he hasn't paid, more coming out of court every day - all because his administration completely mismanged the county government and mistreated every employee working for us. Glen cove is saturated in fraud and corruption. Illegals belong in jail. They are criminals. The landscapers and contractors did just fine without them, in fact, housing costs were lower without the immigrants. Housing prices have risen because they move into lower priced residents by the dozens, tax the community's resources and are responsible for creating hyperinflationary effects. It's plain stupid to believe if they send them all packing we're be worse off. It's a market economy friend and if landscapers can't bring prices into affordable ranges without these hispanic criminals as employees, people will just starting mowing their own lawns. In fact, many people who are socially conscience have already fired their latino friendly landscapers and started their own maintainance. Glen cove is now a white trash town, except for the section that Suozzi lives in - which he's trying to ruin by overdevelopment.

[Not Karl Hungus]

You don't care who you crap on. Your hatred of Suozzi has so warped your sense of decency.

So are you part of the "white trash" that lives in most of the town, or do you live in Suozzi's new neighborhood? Do you even live in Glen Cove and, if so, why would you choose to live in place "saturated in fraud and corruption"?

If you put half as much energy into doing something rather than into your rants, something positive would come of it. Besides not voting for Suozzi, what are you doing to change things?

Let me guess.....nothing. Go ahead, Miniver Cheevy, take another drink.

[it was all a ruse]

all the talk we need affordable housing to keep our youth on Long Island turns out to be not true

affordable housing statistics used to rate how many 18-34 year olds are leaving the Island turn out to be false

new statistics show the number of 18-34 year olds was never as high as previously stated

in fact they say upwards to tens of thousands in that age group that supposedly moved off the Island never even existed

now talk about mistakes that is a brute :roll:

[Butt Brain]

Think about the stupid comment you just made. There's less young people on Long Island, therefore, less moved out - so it's not as bad as all that. How stupid! The fact that there might be less of them to start out with, which I don't believe but I'll give you that for arguments sake, the MORE IMPORTANT it becomes to give them a reason to stay here. Don't you get it? It's all proportionate. Even if there were 3 to a family 10 years ago, and now there's 1 per household - if that 1 moves out next decade there's zero growth. So the lack of affordable housing and high taxes becomes an even bigger problem for a decreasing population than for an increasing population.

[Not Karl Hungus]

Where I your getting your statistics? I'm have no idea if they are right or wrong. I would think you could compare secondary school data with census data. Either way, is it significant to the question of whether there's enough affordable housing?

One way to increase is it to get workforce housing included in every development project. It won't work in all cases, but where's leverage, it should be used.

For example, the Glen Cover waterfront redevelopment could be configured to include workforce housing. Now is the time to get it into the plan.

[workforce housing]

Affordable housing is needed for all the immigrants working in the area. That includes all of the illegal aliens and local working poor people. Of course the illegals help to keep the working poor that mucher poor by depressing their wages but how else am I going to afford to live in Brookville? :twisted:

[tiredofthebs]

Instead of labeling and insulting those you are defending, discuss the issues...

I still see tarped mounds of waste that were supposed to be cleaned up when Suozzi was Mayor.

It has been 2 years and Swezey's is still vacant. Suozzi's wonderboy from the CDA who loves Vegas said at a Chamber of Commerce meeting something "big" was to develop there... But that was 2 days before election day... Or was he just a little dizzy from an eye brow wax?? Do you know of any updates?

I walk downtown in Glen Cove and I am confronted with packs of drunken men drinking Colt 45 and urinating on the sidewalk. Day and night.. Perhaps you don't have to deal with this b/c when it is time for you to tend to your business in downtown you pick up the phone and have it cleared.. I know how quickly things get done for certain people.. Another example of this kind of nonsense is how certain elected officials get $175K (each) speed bumps built on their street...

Stabbings and shootings at the "pristine" 7-11 shopping center. Even at 8 AM there are packs of men drinking and urinating in the parking lot..

What good does having clean up centers and shelters when this administration does nothing about getting people off the streets? Why does this administration continue to allow landscapers to pick up workers on the street?

Drive down Orchard Street (who house 40 people in 12 hour shifts) and tell me how safe you feel.. How about the other lovelies who stand over the the overpass on Glen Cove Road and spit onto the cars.

How about the bar on Glen Street across from Acclaim? Have you seen that at night?

Daily visits by the GC PD to Glen Cove High School. . Do you see all the "For Sale" signs??? Well most of them are families who are leaving b/c of this school district. Oh but SHHHH -- in Suozzi spin land we don't talk about that.

I really love the schematics of the waterfront. What a beautiful backdrop for a Team Glen Cove Suozzi press conference... Tell me the plan. Give me dates of when this will happen. For once will someone from this administration talk about the facts and adhere to an aggenda? Those mailers were impressive -- but show me what you will do to get it done.. No business will take Glen COve seriously until you clean up the rest of the city.. Keep talking about building blocks and smart growth while vacancy signs while Glen Cove continues to deteriorate..

So please respond on the issues and tell me exactly what this administration is doing for the tax paying citizens of Glen COve.

[Nice job tiredofthebs]

Very well put.

[Not Karl Hungus]

I agree, very well put. Nothing beats facing the issues head-on.

"I see the No business will take Glen COve seriously until you clean up the rest of the city.. Keep talking about building blocks and smart growth while vacancy signs while Glen Cove continues to deteriorate.."

No doubt.

The waterfront will proceed at its own pace. With the state and EPA involved, its bigger than Glen Cove (and bigger than Suozzi). Glen Cove is not in the drivers seat (yet). Look how long it's taking the state to clean up the groundwater contamination on Sea Cliff Avenue (Photocircuits and Pall Corp).

The current Glen Cove administration? The point of this thread and my responses was not to defend them but to put the focus in the right places. Your response did just that.

It all comes down to accountability and it seems to be lacking. I hate one-party rule and I think it's a big factor. But everybody gets caught up in Reps vs. Dems and neither one seems to be doing the job. Can't the concerned citizens of Glen Cove get together and get someone on the council, for starters, and avoid the b_lls__t of both parties.

[Bottom line is]

Karl - you bore me. We get it. You live near the waterfront, you're a developer, you love it, you can't afford to move, you and Tom are buds. We get it. The bottom line is the waterfront, the city line, the train tracks - glen cove south if you will - it's got nothing to offer now except day laborers, hoards of little mexican men spitting and peeing and googling women and young girls, vacant land, unfinished developments, unrealized plans and alot of rebuilding ahead. If Suozzi is reelected County Executive - and I doubt he will be - that will be the state he lives Nassau County in. He's only just begun and he's already left a trail of waste behind him.

[Not Karl Hungus]

You've given up on Glen Cove and you're thisclose to giving up on Nassau County. What happens when you have no place left to bitch about?

WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER BESIDES BEING BORED ON A MESSAGE BOARD?

[Say this to your friends]

Tell your friends about Suozzi's 2001 campaign platform ran on his falsified "success" cleaning up Glen Cove. Take a walk at night along the waterfront - or even during the day - and tell me - is this a microcosm of what will happen to Nassau County if we have him 4 years? He failed in Glen cove and he'll fail us to. Print out this thread and show it to them. Pass around the truth. Get Suozzi out in 2005

[What's wrong with you?]

You've given up on Glen Cove and you're thisclose to giving up on Nassau County. What happens when you have no place left to bitch about?

WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER BESIDES BEING BORED ON A MESSAGE BOARD?


Are you kidding? You sound like Suozzi now - blaming everyone except himself. Is it MY responsibility to fix a City I never ran? PLEASE. Take a look around pal. You can't deny the condition of Glen Cove - it's day laborers - illegal aliens - gangs - dangerous streets - unfinished infrastructures - filthy landscapes - scary schools - THIS is Suozzi's legacy - what he touted as his accomplishment in 2001 ???????? Blame HIM for a change and let him FINALLY take responsibility for his own failures. Then when sections of Glen Cove get bad enough under his watch, him and his private school kids pack up and MOVE to the OTHER side of town - far away from the "revitalized" project of his. He's doing the same thing to Nassau County and then he thinks he'll MOVE again - this time way upstate. After he destroys us - all the while blaming the "decades old problems" and the "towns and special districts" and "the schools" and "albany" and everything and everyone else and he'll leave behind a people completely disenchanted and fighting and waring amongst themselves.