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Unregistered555
03-24-2011, 04:06 PM
Who would have thought Edward Mangano and other idiots like Scott brown and Chris christie could get the entire American police force/ unions
/fraternal order of police to vote Democrat next election.
Idiot politicians!
11772lol
03-24-2011, 04:42 PM
who cares.... not strong enough to vote them out... maybe the unions will start playing ball. the people are the ones voting them in knowing what the intentions are.
bella8723
03-29-2011, 09:53 AM
who cares.... not strong enough to vote them out... maybe the unions will start playing ball. the people are the ones voting them in knowing what the intentions are.
Mangano isn't getting re-elected.
Unregistereddude
03-29-2011, 10:58 AM
Who would have thought Edward Mangano and other idiots like Scott brown and Chris christie could get the entire American police force/ unions
/fraternal order of police to vote Democrat next election.
Idiot politicians!
GET IT THRU YOUR THICK HEADS, REPUBLICANS HATE UNIONS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE...
Unregistered6iugtu,i
03-29-2011, 03:28 PM
Unions are not taxpayer friendly,
jimmy hoffa's ghost
03-29-2011, 04:25 PM
Unions are not taxpayer friendly,
Unless you are a tax-paying union member who contributes to the local economy.
UnregisteredFireFighter
03-29-2011, 08:26 PM
Not even good Republicans will support this Moran Mangano. He threw the party faithful under the bus. Now it is their turn!!
Unregistered787987897
03-30-2011, 07:55 AM
Unless you are a tax-paying union member who contributes to the local economy.
The Nassau County Unions are nothing more then pigs at the trouth and the taxpayers are the trouth,
Amen Bro
03-30-2011, 11:11 AM
Not even good Republicans will support this Moran Mangano. He threw the party faithful under the bus. Now it is their turn!!
Amen brother - this GOper went from being one of his strongest campaigners to one of his biggest haters - watching the bastards who fired us under Suozzi still running around in charge of departments and collecting paychecks 4 times the size of anything we ever got paid while we are out scrambling for work in Manhattan.
Screw Mangano.
I'll vote for a telephone pole on the liberal line before I vote for him again. And I'll campaign twice as hard for the telephone pole as I did for him too.
Unregistered555
04-03-2011, 11:16 PM
Belesi is a hypocrite...
Look for a Democratic replacement backed by the unions next election.
Unregistered987989
04-07-2011, 08:24 AM
The txpayers are feed up with the unions, the unions are nothing more then pigs at the taxpayer trouths and the people are getting feed up.
Unregistered7hlso
04-10-2011, 02:12 PM
The txpayers are feed up with the unions, the unions are nothing more then pigs at the taxpayer trouths and the people are getting feed up.
This is the real issue
It is not the fully funded Police & fire pensions that cost you money.
This is the reason for our out of control Property taxes
As someone has already posted:
TEACHERS’ SALARIES:
Average Full-Time Worker- DAY LENGTH= 8 Hr
Average Full-Time Teacher- DAY LENGTH=7 Hr
Average Full-Time Worker WORK DAY- Working at job hired for= 7.5 Hr/day
Average Full-Time Teacher WORK DAY (Working with students): 5 periods of 45 minutes= 225 minutes/day (3.75Hr /day) The rest of their day spent as follows: Lunch- 1 period (45 Minutes), 2 Preps(45 minutes each) + 1 Duty Period (Babysitting the cafeteria, hall, playground, busses etc. for 45 minutes)
Average Full-Time Worker WORK YEAR = 260 Days per Year
Average Full-Time Teacher WORK YEAR =185 Days per Year
Average Full-Time Worker YEARLY SALARY(after 6 Years)= [Plug in a career]
Average Full-Time Teacher YEARLY SALARY(after 6 Years)=$60,000
ADDITIONAL BENEFITS:
Average Full-Time Worker VACATION DAYS=10 to 20 Days dependent upon career & length of Service
Average Full-Time Teacher VACATION DAYS=75 DAYS (includes ALL HOLIDAYS)
Average Full-Time Worker PAID SNOW DAYS=NONE
Average Full-Time Teacher PAID SNOW DAYS= As many as the District gives Students off
Average Full-Time Worker SICK DAYS= 7 to 10 per year
Average Full-Time Teacher SICK DAYS= 10 to 15 per year
Average Full-Time Worker PERSONAL DAYS = 3 per Year
Average Full-Time Teacher PERSONAL DAYS= 5 per Year
Average Full-Time Worker BEREAVEMENT DAYS= 3 days for immediate family members
Average Full-Time Teacher BEREAVEMENT DAYS= 5 days for EACH immediate & extended family member
Average Full-Time Worker JOB SECURITY= Can be fired AT WILL By their Employer
Average Full-Time Teacher JOB SECURITY= Receive Tenure after 3 years and CANNOT be fired short of conviction of criminal activity
PLUS:
Average Full-Time Teacher= EXTRA PAY for after School clubs, sports, etc- ALL add to TEACHER PENSION
Average Full-Time Teacher= if work in Summer for a municipality or School District- ALL add to TEACHER PENSION
Average Full-Time Worker In-Service/Review Courses= Paid for by employee & taken on their own time
Average Full-Time Teacher In-Service= Paid for by District & Taken on District Time
Teacher's ABILITY TO increase their SALARY(AND PENSION) by Taking All types of College Credit- even online
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $35,000 THEN ACTUAL DAILY rate =$189
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $40,000 THEN ACTUAL DAILY rate =$216
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $45,a00 THEN ACTUAL DAILY rate =$243
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $50,000 THEN ACTUAL DAILY rate =$270
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $55,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$297
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $60,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$324
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $65,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$350
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $70,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$378
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $75,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$405
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $80,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$432
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $85,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$459
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $90,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$486
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $95,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$514
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $100,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$541
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $105,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$568
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $110,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$595
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $115,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$622
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $120,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$649
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $125,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$676
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $130,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$703
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $135,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$730
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $140,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$757
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $145,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$784
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $150,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$811
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $155,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$838
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $160,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$865
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $165,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$892
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $170,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$919
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $175,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$946
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $180,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$973
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $185,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$1000
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $1905,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$1027
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $195,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$1070
IF Teacher Yearly SALARY= $200,000 THEN TEACHER'S ACTUAL DAILY rate =$1081
That's for a 185 DAY WORK YEAR (The average Maximum amount of days a teacher works in almost all School Districts in NEW YORK STATE)
That is NOT even taking into account that a teacher WORKS LESS THAN 4 HOURS a DAY WITH STUDENTS!
AND THE REAL Point is that teachers (effectively) CANNOT BE FIRED!
LET"S ANALYZE THAT SALARY EVEN FURTHER!:
A Teacher TEACHES 5 periods/TEACHING workday x 45 minutes/period x 185 workdays /year =694 TEACHING Hours/year
A Full-time Worker who has 4 WEEKS VACATION/Year WORKS (That is doing what they were hired for): 7.5 WORK Hours/day x 240 WORK days/year= 1800 WORK Hours/year
THEREFORE, a NON-Teacher Worker WORKS 160% MORE in a year than a TEACHER!
THEREFORE, (PLUG in) TEACHER SALARY x 260% = Equivalent FULL-Time Salary PAY (Had the Teacher WORKED the FULL YEAR & FULL DAY!!!)
Example: If a Teacher worked a FULL DAY & FULL YEAR, the EQUIVALENT YEARLY SALARY of the
Teacher: Making $30,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $78,000
Teacher: Making $40,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $104,000
Teacher: Making $60,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $156,000
Teacher: Making $80,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $208,000
Teacher: Making $100,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $260,000
Teacher: Making $130,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $338,000
Teacher: Making $140,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $338,000
Teacher: Making $150,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $390,000
Teacher: Making $160,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $416,000
Teacher: Making $170,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $442,000
Teacher: Making $180,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $468,000
Teacher: Making $190,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $494,000
Teacher: Making $200,000 is the EQUIVALENT OF $520,000
AND if a Teacher worked a FULL DAY & FULL YEAR, the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE of the
Teacher: Making $30,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $422
Teacher: Making $40,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $562
Teacher: Making $60,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $843
Teacher: Making $80,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $1,124
Teacher: Making $100,000 is[/b] the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $1,405
Teacher: Making $130,000 is[/b] the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $1,827
Teacher: Making $140,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $1,968
Teacher: Making $150,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $2,108
Teacher: Making $160,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $2,249
Teacher: Making $170,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $2,389
Teacher: Making $180,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $2,530
Teacher: Making $190,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $2,670
Teacher: Making $200,000 is the EQUIVALENT DAILY RATE OF $2,811
AND THAT DOES not Take into consideration the other benefits that Private Sector jobs DO NOT GET- Not to mention TENURE(ie PERMANENT JOB SECURITY) DO YOU GET THE POINT!!!!
They need to start WORKING a FULL-YEAR for their CURRENT PAY!!!
That alone with a staggered school year for STUDENTS would SAVE the Taxpayers AT LEAST 30% SCHOOL TAXES ( by being able to reduce the current Staffing needs!!!
THE EQUIVALENT SALARY IS WHAT IS KILLING LI!!!!!!!!!!!
Unregisteredstup
04-10-2011, 02:33 PM
[QUOTE=Unregistereddude;439543]GET IT THRU YOUR THICK HEADS, REPUBLICANS HATE UNIONS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE...[/QUOTE
when you support unions you support working people and workers everywhere
when you do not support workers you support bosses and rich people everywhere
If you are STUP
ID enough to believe that when this is over if the bosses win t
he rich will not rape you
you are the grandest fools of all
Unregistered squarebag
04-10-2011, 06:02 PM
[QUOTE=Unregistereddude;439543]GET IT THRU YOUR THICK HEADS, REPUBLICANS HATE UNIONS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE...[/QUOTE
when you support unions you support working people and workers everywhere
when you do not support workers you support bosses and rich people everywhere
If you are STUP
ID enough to believe that when this is over if the bosses win t
he rich will not rape you
you are the grandest fools of all
Wud?
UnregisteredSTUP
04-10-2011, 09:35 PM
[QUOTE=Unregisteredstup;443193]
Wud?
Exactly
Unregistered555
04-11-2011, 09:30 AM
The txpayers are feed up with the unions, the unions are nothing more then pigs at the taxpayer trouths and the people are getting feed up.
I guess it isn't the fault of corporations like GE that pay zero in federal taxes.
Unregistered///////11530
04-11-2011, 11:10 AM
I guess it isn't the fault of corporations like GE that pay zero in federal taxes.
It is not their fault but rather the fault of the politicians, who are "pressured" by lobbyists (if you call being forced to go on fact finding missions to the Bahamas "pressured") into writing the tax code to benefit the corporations.
You can't blame them for taking advantage of the tax loopholes any more than I can blame you for minimizing your tax burden through creative (though legal) accounting.
I can blame the corrupt system, however.
What we need are politicians who are not owned by anyone or anything, but rather are in it for the people. Sort of like of Founding Fathers intended.
Unregistered Guest
04-11-2011, 11:27 AM
It is not their fault but rather the fault of the politicians, who are "pressured" by lobbyists (if you call being forced to go on fact finding missions to the Bahamas "pressured") into writing the tax code to benefit the corporations.
You can't blame them for taking advantage of the tax loopholes any more than I can blame you for minimizing your tax burden through creative (though legal) accounting.
I can blame the corrupt system, however.
What we need are politicians who are not owned by anyone or anything, but rather are in it for the people. Sort of like of Founding Fathers intended.
HOW DO YOU GET HERE FROM COPS NOT SUPPORTING REPUBLICANS?
Unregistered 456
04-11-2011, 01:08 PM
GET IT THRU YOUR THICK HEADS, REPUBLICANS HATE UNIONS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE...
You are confusing national politics with Nassau County Politics, the unions love republicans here and vice versa. The unions campaigned for Gullotta, Managno, hated Supzzi, what was not to like? The PBA, CSEA support democratic cnadidates, news to me.
Unregistered7hlso
04-11-2011, 02:15 PM
You are confusing national politics with Nassau County Politics, the unions love republicans here and vice versa. The unions campaigned for Gullotta, Managno, hated Supzzi, what was not to like? The PBA, CSEA support democratic cnadidates, news to me.
The Police support Republicans on LI because LI Republicans are anti-crime & pro-Cop.
However, if the any Republican tries to do what that UNION-BUSTING Wisconsin Gov WAlker is attempting, rest assured, EVERY UNION , INcluding POLICE will have no choice but to Support the OPPOSING Side (ie Democrats)
Unregistered 789
04-11-2011, 03:06 PM
The Police support Republicans on LI because LI Republicans are anti-crime & pro-Cop.
However, if the any Republican tries to do what that UNION-BUSTING Wisconsin Gov WAlker is attempting, rest assured, EVERY UNION , INcluding POLICE will have no choice but to Support the OPPOSING Side (ie Democrats)
That's complete nonsense, it has nothing to do with anti-crime, the police have had a cozy relationship with Gulotta and Mangano, they hated Suozzi because he go some really minor concessions. The PBA supports the republican candidates who in turn grant the police absurd contracts.
Unregisteredtaxpayer...
04-11-2011, 03:21 PM
GET IT THRU YOUR THICK HEADS, REPUBLICANS HATE UNIONS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE...
Get it through YOUR head skippy... The general public HATES the Unions!
It finally came to light the "perks" received by the union members.
UNIONS destroyed this country and destroyed the Demo-crats own party!
GO Republican in 2012!
UnregisteredSTUPID
04-11-2011, 11:33 PM
Get it through YOUR head skippy... The general public HATES the Unions!
It finally came to light the "perks" received by the union members.
UNIONS destroyed this country and destroyed the Demo-crats own party!
GO Republican in 2012!
YOU SUPPORT THE RICH lol
unless you are rich you are a fool and your daughtersand grandaughters will be their sons fools
It is really simple anyone who ha
when you support unions you support working people and workers everywhere
when you do not support workers you support bosses and rich people everywhere
If you are STUP
ID enough to believe that when this is over if the bosses win t
he rich will not rape you
you are the grandest fools of all
Unregistered33
04-11-2011, 11:56 PM
The Police support Republicans on LI because LI Republicans are anti-crime & pro-Cop.
However, if the any Republican tries to do what that UNION-BUSTING Wisconsin Gov WAlker is attempting, rest assured, EVERY UNION , INcluding POLICE will have no choice but to Support the OPPOSING Side (ie Democrats)
Mangano and levy have already tried.
Democrats will sweep the next Nassau election.
Unregistered Guest
04-12-2011, 12:28 PM
Law Enforcement Unions supported Republican Candiates because they are generally for Law and Order! They voted Republican because often the Democratic Candiate was courting the Votes of those who believed that soceity was at fault for criminal behaivor.
And that Felons should get a 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th chance to turn their lives around. That they can become useful members of soceity if given another chance. And generally Republicans feel actions speak loader than words, after they pay their debt to soceity, then they get another chance.
Nassau County Law Enforcement Unions have become greedy! Thinking only of their money! Our D.A. was supported by the Unions after releasing hundreds of Drug Dealers! The newspapers said She was understanding, and this was the future. How many Drug Dealers have been arrested since then? How many have been given more 2nd chances? Why hasn't Newsday followed up on this? If it was successful they would be writing about it!
But the PBA, DEA, SOA, Sheriffs, and Corrections all support her. Why because She wants to run for County Executive and will give them what they want. A strong Law Enforcement Leader or a better Union Contract?
Unregisteredvxgvdg
04-12-2011, 01:55 PM
Law Enforcement Unions supported Republican Candiates because they are generally for Law and Order! They voted Republican because often the Democratic Candiate was courting the Votes of those who believed that soceity was at fault for criminal behaivor.
And that Felons should get a 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th chance to turn their lives around. That they can become useful members of soceity if given another chance. And generally Republicans feel actions speak loader than words, after they pay their debt to soceity, then they get another chance.
Nassau County Law Enforcement Unions have become greedy! Thinking only of their money! Our D.A. was supported by the Unions after releasing hundreds of Drug Dealers! The newspapers said She was understanding, and this was the future. How many Drug Dealers have been arrested since then? How many have been given more 2nd chances? Why hasn't Newsday followed up on this? If it was successful they would be writing about it!
But the PBA, DEA, SOA, Sheriffs, and Corrections all support her. Why because She wants to run for County Executive and will give them what they want. A strong Law Enforcement Leader or a better Union Contract?
You obviously don't know anything about that issue so you must NOT be a COP.
Law Enforcement Unions supported Republican Candiates because they are generally for Law and Order! They voted Republican because often the Democratic Candiate was courting the Votes of those who believed that soceity was at fault for criminal behaivor.
And that Felons should get a 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th chance to turn their lives around. That they can become useful members of soceity if given another chance. And generally Republicans feel actions speak loader than words, after they pay their debt to soceity, then they get another chance.
Nassau County Law Enforcement Unions have become greedy! Thinking only of their money! Our D.A. was supported by the Unions after releasing hundreds of Drug Dealers! The newspapers said She was understanding, and this was the future. How many Drug Dealers have been arrested since then? How many have been given more 2nd chances? Why hasn't Newsday followed up on this? If it was successful they would be writing about it!
But the PBA, DEA, SOA, Sheriffs, and Corrections all support her. Why because She wants to run for County Executive and will give them what they want. A strong Law Enforcement Leader or a better Union Contract?
Ehh what?
Unregist2
04-12-2011, 09:26 PM
Mangano and levy have already tried.
Democrats will sweep the next Nassau election.
In your dreams!HAHA. Long Island turned against the Democrats a LONG time ago!
How many senate districts do the Democrats hold on LI? Yep.
Unregistered 678
04-12-2011, 09:40 PM
Law Enforcement Unions supported Republican Candiates because they are generally for Law and Order! They voted Republican because often the Democratic Candiate was courting the Votes of those who believed that soceity was at fault for criminal behaivor.
And that Felons should get a 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th chance to turn their lives around. That they can become useful members of soceity if given another chance. And generally Republicans feel actions speak loader than words, after they pay their debt to soceity, then they get another chance.
Nassau County Law Enforcement Unions have become greedy! Thinking only of their money! Our D.A. was supported by the Unions after releasing hundreds of Drug Dealers! The newspapers said She was understanding, and this was the future. How many Drug Dealers have been arrested since then? How many have been given more 2nd chances? Why hasn't Newsday followed up on this? If it was successful they would be writing about it!
But the PBA, DEA, SOA, Sheriffs, and Corrections all support her. Why because She wants to run for County Executive and will give them what they want. A strong Law Enforcement Leader or a better Union Contract?
Time to return to the planet earth.
Unregistered33
04-13-2011, 11:49 AM
In your dreams!HAHA. Long Island turned against the Democrats a LONG time ago!
How many senate districts do the Democrats hold on LI? Yep.
Mangano won't get reelected. He failed.
Suffolk is pro Democrat look for a landslide.
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