Real Journalist
06-23-2005, 01:21 AM
What a twisted case huh? The county attorney's office is now defending those policies that suozzi called smoke and mirror budget tricks because suozzi is using the same ones - and then some! Apparently, the industrial development agency (IDA) was set up by gulotta to attract business to long island and one of those businesses - goya - set up on the grumman property (which I believe, didn't suozzi claim he sold for $50 million to a private party and then went to Washington - why did he go - why didn't he send the legislative liaison? - to get $2 million dollars to clean up the grumman property (what the hell?).
ANYWAY - the deal under gulotta to get goya to move there was that instead of getting a tax refund for successfully challenging the real property tax - they could take the "refund" in terms of tax credits. The county wouldn't have to pay now - but wouldn't collect anything later. A wash. Suozzi liked this part. And he kept it. He also then used IDA - according to the NY Times - to give these credits only to political contributors and local cronies (which was not done - to such extremes - under Gulotta). So suozzi kept it and expanded it - making what he termed an already corrupt system
even more corrupt.
Now it seems, the Bethpage school district is challenge the payment in lieu of taxes pact claiming that the school district has to pay more taxes because it doesn't have goya picking up the slack -
Forchelli (who else) represents goya and the county attorney is now arguing that gulotta's system is
"beneficial for the community". NYLJ March 22 !
Meanwhile suozzi says - he ended the part of the program that allowed giving credits in lieu of payments.
Meaning - now when they pay and then challenge and inevitably win their tax assessments - the county MUST pay the refunds. BUT the county HASN"T been paying them - since suozzi - they have just been multiplying - big refunds - and accumulating and the time is ticking for the bond clearances to expire.
I guess it's only bad and bringing the county toward bankruptcy during a democrat's campaign speach - or if you read newsday
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cunty aty defends gulotta
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:05 pm
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Let me start off by laughing.
That article said there are 30 PILOT companies out there now (IE: under the credit for refund pact) and HALF of them are Suozzi companies - HALF of them got their deals AFTER Suozzi took office.
So basically - Suozzi campaigned on the premise that this was dirty politics, bad economic budgeting, leading toward bankruptcy
got elected
used the same system and set-up 15 companies with this same system - companies that all made political contributions to him-
THEN he got rid of the system (or claims he has, maybe it's like his Nassau County residency requirement - it's a requirement UNLESS he exempts someone from it)
Now he's being sued on it and his County Attorney is defending it saying it's "beneficial for the community" AND the Gulotta system has so far been upheld in court against the school system.
And isn't it true - that to take the heat off himself for causing the tax & fee increase disaster without giving anybody a chance to breath or first straighten out the assessment problems - he tried to put all the blame on the towns and schools thinking the residents would start fighting with them BUT
apparently this has backfired because (are you reading this TOM?)
WE AREN'T SO STUPID AS YOU THINK WE ARE AND YOU ARE ESPECIALLY STUPID TO MESS WITH OUR SCHOOLS
So now it appears - one at a time - the schools are taking revenge and going after the COUNTY
and IF they win - these paper "credits" may become actual dollars owed as tax refunds to businesses who will now start to pay actual taxes - in theory - in reality - Suozzi will only succeed in watching MORE businesses move out of Nassau County because they WONT pay these high taxes and all we'll have left are high rise apartment tenament buildings filled with illegal aliens and welfare recipients, Suozzi's $1.5 million dollar subdivided home and the zoo he's building in Charles Wang Town.
Yeah - I'm gonna vote for the guy in 2005!
ANYWAY - the deal under gulotta to get goya to move there was that instead of getting a tax refund for successfully challenging the real property tax - they could take the "refund" in terms of tax credits. The county wouldn't have to pay now - but wouldn't collect anything later. A wash. Suozzi liked this part. And he kept it. He also then used IDA - according to the NY Times - to give these credits only to political contributors and local cronies (which was not done - to such extremes - under Gulotta). So suozzi kept it and expanded it - making what he termed an already corrupt system
even more corrupt.
Now it seems, the Bethpage school district is challenge the payment in lieu of taxes pact claiming that the school district has to pay more taxes because it doesn't have goya picking up the slack -
Forchelli (who else) represents goya and the county attorney is now arguing that gulotta's system is
"beneficial for the community". NYLJ March 22 !
Meanwhile suozzi says - he ended the part of the program that allowed giving credits in lieu of payments.
Meaning - now when they pay and then challenge and inevitably win their tax assessments - the county MUST pay the refunds. BUT the county HASN"T been paying them - since suozzi - they have just been multiplying - big refunds - and accumulating and the time is ticking for the bond clearances to expire.
I guess it's only bad and bringing the county toward bankruptcy during a democrat's campaign speach - or if you read newsday
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cunty aty defends gulotta
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:05 pm
Guest
Let me start off by laughing.
That article said there are 30 PILOT companies out there now (IE: under the credit for refund pact) and HALF of them are Suozzi companies - HALF of them got their deals AFTER Suozzi took office.
So basically - Suozzi campaigned on the premise that this was dirty politics, bad economic budgeting, leading toward bankruptcy
got elected
used the same system and set-up 15 companies with this same system - companies that all made political contributions to him-
THEN he got rid of the system (or claims he has, maybe it's like his Nassau County residency requirement - it's a requirement UNLESS he exempts someone from it)
Now he's being sued on it and his County Attorney is defending it saying it's "beneficial for the community" AND the Gulotta system has so far been upheld in court against the school system.
And isn't it true - that to take the heat off himself for causing the tax & fee increase disaster without giving anybody a chance to breath or first straighten out the assessment problems - he tried to put all the blame on the towns and schools thinking the residents would start fighting with them BUT
apparently this has backfired because (are you reading this TOM?)
WE AREN'T SO STUPID AS YOU THINK WE ARE AND YOU ARE ESPECIALLY STUPID TO MESS WITH OUR SCHOOLS
So now it appears - one at a time - the schools are taking revenge and going after the COUNTY
and IF they win - these paper "credits" may become actual dollars owed as tax refunds to businesses who will now start to pay actual taxes - in theory - in reality - Suozzi will only succeed in watching MORE businesses move out of Nassau County because they WONT pay these high taxes and all we'll have left are high rise apartment tenament buildings filled with illegal aliens and welfare recipients, Suozzi's $1.5 million dollar subdivided home and the zoo he's building in Charles Wang Town.
Yeah - I'm gonna vote for the guy in 2005!